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DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 18:39:57
December 05 2014 18:39 GMT
#6201
On December 06 2014 03:22 Teoita wrote:
Ah fml wrong mage, the one is this:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ragnaros/Shayande/advanced

He's using 4t16 and making Fire work with it. It will get nerfed into the ground im sure, but still it's kinda cool


He has 4set on currently on armory. Regardless, that's going to be nerfed soon if it does work. I've seen some talk about priest 4set as well but haven't really found anyone doing it.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 19:13:07
December 05 2014 19:12 GMT
#6202
On December 06 2014 00:46 Noizhende wrote:
isn't the new heroic mode supposed to be what was called normal in mop? would be quite normal that the good guilds get through it pretty quickly.


Correct.

Mythic is the new progression mode. Blizzard just felt like using positive reinforcement by naming the old normal mode which was still apparently too hard for most people Heroic; and then calling Flex, which is a lot easier, the new normal mode.

It's all just a bunch of formalities really. The relative difficulty hasn't really changed.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 05 2014 19:34 GMT
#6203
that guy is a boss
WriterXiao8~~
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 05 2014 19:55 GMT
#6204
so they nerf old dk 2p but not mage 4p
game still wizard favored 322 etc
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 05 2014 19:55 GMT
#6205
On December 06 2014 04:12 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 00:46 Noizhende wrote:
isn't the new heroic mode supposed to be what was called normal in mop? would be quite normal that the good guilds get through it pretty quickly.


Correct.

Mythic is the new progression mode. Blizzard just felt like using positive reinforcement by naming the old normal mode which was still apparently too hard for most people Heroic; and then calling Flex, which is a lot easier, the new normal mode.

It's all just a bunch of formalities really. The relative difficulty hasn't really changed.

WoW 2018: New difficulty mode introduced; OMEGA-BETA-ALPHA-TEAMBRAVO-NAVYSEAL. Replaces old normal mode, which replaced old flex mode, which replaced old LFR mode. New normal mode is called TITANSUPERLAZOR mode.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 20:26:56
December 05 2014 20:17 GMT
#6206
On December 05 2014 19:49 Laurens wrote:
Ah ok that makes sense, thanks.


Four raid difficulty levels:

LFR, tuned for lower gear and to be easy for PUG's, some mechanics removed

Normal, tuned for pretty normal gear levels

Heroic, tuned for higher gear levels (obtained by those min-maxing or having already farmed normal for a while)

Mythic, tuned for Heroic tier gear and having added mechanics and difficulty

I don't think Heroic is intended to be walked into with only gear from 5 man dungeons and cleared without loot from other raids - the people clearing it are the ones who are in high tier guilds and the guilds like Method had quite a few people with i650 running around before the raid opened. They just have lots of money from farming/boosting and there are so many BOE's that are far above the level of power for 5 man hc gear
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 05 2014 20:47 GMT
#6207
I'm kinda surprised at the amount of Hunter that don't have a Nether Ray ( Bloodlust / Heroism ) and a Moth ( BattleRez ) when doing PvE;
I guess most don't even know you can have that. It's really useful all around for dungeons.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
December 05 2014 20:50 GMT
#6208
I have them but it's a pain to use them since Lone Wolf is the superior spec which means you do 30% less damage with a pet out. It's too much effort to summon -> use spell -> desummon.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 05 2014 21:25 GMT
#6209
Only takes like 10sec to do it and rebuff lonewolf, I do it all the time.
For Bloodlust it's a bit heh.. but for battle rez in challenge mode it's really cool.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 05 2014 22:05 GMT
#6210
On December 06 2014 05:17 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 19:49 Laurens wrote:
Ah ok that makes sense, thanks.


Four raid difficulty levels:

LFR, tuned for lower gear and to be easy for PUG's, some mechanics removed

Normal, tuned for pretty normal gear levels

Heroic, tuned for higher gear levels (obtained by those min-maxing or having already farmed normal for a while)

Mythic, tuned for Heroic tier gear and having added mechanics and difficulty

I don't think Heroic is intended to be walked into with only gear from 5 man dungeons and cleared without loot from other raids - the people clearing it are the ones who are in high tier guilds and the guilds like Method had quite a few people with i650 running around before the raid opened. They just have lots of money from farming/boosting and there are so many BOE's that are far above the level of power for 5 man hc gear

Ascension did it with 4 people above 635 and 26 other's around 630-635 4 times so far, in 2 days after servers were playable for barthilas. Sounds pretty heroic to me
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 22:51:21
December 05 2014 22:49 GMT
#6211
On December 06 2014 07:05 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 05:17 Cyro wrote:
On December 05 2014 19:49 Laurens wrote:
Ah ok that makes sense, thanks.


Four raid difficulty levels:

LFR, tuned for lower gear and to be easy for PUG's, some mechanics removed

Normal, tuned for pretty normal gear levels

Heroic, tuned for higher gear levels (obtained by those min-maxing or having already farmed normal for a while)

Mythic, tuned for Heroic tier gear and having added mechanics and difficulty

I don't think Heroic is intended to be walked into with only gear from 5 man dungeons and cleared without loot from other raids - the people clearing it are the ones who are in high tier guilds and the guilds like Method had quite a few people with i650 running around before the raid opened. They just have lots of money from farming/boosting and there are so many BOE's that are far above the level of power for 5 man hc gear

Ascension did it with 4 people above 635 and 26 other's around 630-635 4 times so far, in 2 days after servers were playable for barthilas. Sounds pretty heroic to me

wow you mean a pretty top mythic guild managed to clear heroic in weak gear. wow, this is amazing and utterly unheard of.

Seriously you keep mentioning how top guilds are having no issues on content that is miles below there playing level.
Show me a guild that despite raiding for 1y + never killed mythic garrosh already having steamrolled Highmaul and I might consider you having a point. Untill then your just another troll throwing bullshit around.

ps. Surely you already cleared it in your questing gear since its so easy right?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 05 2014 23:30 GMT
#6212


this piece of music is so good
The Bomber boy
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
December 05 2014 23:44 GMT
#6213
I hate pugging koragh sigh.....
Doom Guy
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 23:48:08
December 05 2014 23:47 GMT
#6214
On December 06 2014 05:47 Noocta wrote:
I'm kinda surprised at the amount of Hunter that don't have a Nether Ray ( Bloodlust / Heroism ) and a Moth ( BattleRez ) when doing PvE;
I guess most don't even know you can have that. It's really useful all around for dungeons.


Both pets require Beast Mastery specc. There's your explanation. You don't get any of the GOOD raid utility pets without speccing BM. The other speccs will let you tame a normal raid buff pet.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
December 05 2014 23:48 GMT
#6215
On December 06 2014 08:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 05:47 Noocta wrote:
I'm kinda surprised at the amount of Hunter that don't have a Nether Ray ( Bloodlust / Heroism ) and a Moth ( BattleRez ) when doing PvE;
I guess most don't even know you can have that. It's really useful all around for dungeons.


Both pets require Beast Mastery specc. There's your explanation. You don't get any of the GOOD raid utility pets without speccing BM. The other speccs will let you tame a normal raid buff pet.

What, no. MM can use bloodlust + brez pets.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 23:55:38
December 05 2014 23:52 GMT
#6216
Asked 4 people last night to make plans, logged on today at 7-8pm and couldn't find a single person to do daily CM (from guild and friends), asked around in trade some hours later but too late now i think

anyone want to make a regular group? Even if i match the schedule of some guys from the guild (which is very difficult, considering they're US players and randomly do stuff at times like 4am) we were often pugging people

I have 5 CM's cleared with bronze on 4, mostly interested in bronze and the quest right now because i can't go grab 8x silver with pugs
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 05 2014 23:52 GMT
#6217
those 2 pets arent exotic
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 06 2014 00:02 GMT
#6218
On December 06 2014 08:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 05:47 Noocta wrote:
I'm kinda surprised at the amount of Hunter that don't have a Nether Ray ( Bloodlust / Heroism ) and a Moth ( BattleRez ) when doing PvE;
I guess most don't even know you can have that. It's really useful all around for dungeons.


Both pets require Beast Mastery specc. There's your explanation. You don't get any of the GOOD raid utility pets without speccing BM. The other speccs will let you tame a normal raid buff pet.


See, I told you most hunters don't know lol.
Those two pets aren't BM exclusive.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 06 2014 07:25 GMT
#6219
can anyone summarize imperator for melee dps taht shit looks complicated
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 06 2014 08:41 GMT
#6220
Speaking of which, what addon is the one that makes it so you can make 1 spell button larger then life(like MB/Shadowstep.
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