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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
December 01 2014 19:59 GMT
#5801
On December 02 2014 04:58 Firebolt145 wrote:
Okay how do I actually queue for CM's?

You can't. You need to form a group, set to Challenge Mode, and travel to the instance.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34486 Posts
December 01 2014 20:05 GMT
#5802
Oh.
Moderator
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 01 2014 20:09 GMT
#5803
On December 02 2014 04:28 futsel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 04:24 Tephus wrote:
I'll expand on CM mechanic changes, from the point of view of a healer:

Ground AoE on most bosses seem to be permanent, or nearly.

Some debuffs are no longer dispellable. (I think?)

Bosses will do 'harder' versions of their mechanic.



A good example in general is Skyreach. The second boss does more beams you need to block, the third boss has phx dust basically everywhere (you end up just kiting them), and on the last boss, the entire platform can get covered in that lens fire stuff.


Wow, that sounds awesome.
But then if Challenge Modes are that hard, what do they reward you with compared to raids? Plus there are so many raid difficulties: it's confusing.


There are 4 raid difficulties:
LFR, which basically is like LFG but for raids. This is piss easy, tourist mode stuff. The reward is 640 items for Highmaul (just like challenge modes, lol) and 655 for Blackrock Foundry (which will open later).
Normal/heroic: these are the "average not awful player" modes; you actually need to account for mechanics and have a decent group, but they still aren't that challenging for well geared and prepared groups. Heroic is harder and rewards better gear than Normal. In this difficulty, mobs and bosses are tuned to scale with the raid group size, so you can bring however many people you want between 10 and 30.
Mythic: the hardest difficulty, requires 20 people to complete. Aimed at hardcore raiders.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
futsel
Profile Joined August 2006
163 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 20:22:37
December 01 2014 20:15 GMT
#5804
On December 02 2014 04:38 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
A good example in general is Skyreach. The second boss does more beams you need to block


They also heal the boss a lot more if you don't block them and hit you much harder if you do. I did HC without even really being aware of that mechanic, but it's most of the difficulty in CM (blocking the beams effectively and not dieing to the huge AOE burst after when everyone is very low HP from beam blocking between defensive+healer cd's)

CM's reward you with a title (all bronze), a mount (all silver) or some of the best weapon/shield etc transmogs in the game (all gold) - it's something to work on over the next 1-2 years. Right now they give the 640's, which are useful for gearing up into the first tier, as right now it's some of the best gear available and in the future when we have LFR and other raid difficulties, you'll still get ~7 loot drops from CM per week, and probably not that many good 640-655+ from raids


1-2 years? why so long?
On December 02 2014 05:09 Teoita wrote:
There are 4 raid difficulties:
LFR, which basically is like LFG but for raids. This is piss easy, tourist mode stuff. The reward is 640 items for Highmaul (just like challenge modes, lol) and 655 for Blackrock Foundry (which will open later).
Normal/heroic: these are the "average not awful player" modes; you actually need to account for mechanics and have a decent group, but they still aren't that challenging for well geared and prepared groups. Heroic is harder and rewards better gear than Normal. In this difficulty, mobs and bosses are tuned to scale with the raid group size, so you can bring however many people you want between 10 and 30.
Mythic: the hardest difficulty, requires 20 people to complete. Aimed at hardcore raiders.


Wow that's really informative, thank you. Is the raid still once per week or with all these modes (or twice....1 for 10, 1 for 20), you can run the raid several times? Because you're saying you can bring any amount of ppl to normal/heroic, so how does the raid reset work now?
it's all a joke
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
December 01 2014 20:24 GMT
#5805
I'm enjoying the leveling content and garrison questing/crafting.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 01 2014 20:26 GMT
#5806
Wow that's really informative, thank you. Is the raid still once per week or with all these modes (or twice....1 for 10, 1 for 20), you can run the raid several times? Because you're saying you can bring any amount of ppl to normal/heroic, so how does the raid reset work now?


The lockouts are separate for each difficulty. In LFR, you can run the same boss multiple times per week, but you will only receive loot the first time. In Normal and HC you can join any raid that has the same progress as you do i think. Mythic works like the oldschool lockouts, where every raid has an individual ID.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20284 Posts
December 01 2014 21:00 GMT
#5807
1-2 years? why so long?


Well, it's not going anywhere until the end of the expansion and we'll get slightly better gear (the stats we want) and a LOT more experience in them in the future
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
futsel
Profile Joined August 2006
163 Posts
December 01 2014 21:20 GMT
#5808
What would be the point in running LFR several times if you're only getting the loot once? Apart from carrying someone

Also, how does the cross-realm work. I've seen people from other realms advertize their guild. Does that mean you can be in the guild of another realm and group up with them to pvp/pve anytime you want? Share the guild bank etc.?
it's all a joke
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 01 2014 21:22 GMT
#5809
On December 02 2014 05:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Oh.


Highly recommend not using oQueue or whatnot to form a CM group. You're gonna have to find some of the current CM groups on your server and try to infiltrate your way into them.

It's a completely different game; less about skill and more about reading. Lots and lots of reading - you basically have to learn when to use a potion, when to go invis, what mobs to skip, what mechanics to ignore... you can't just step in and start killing things, else you won't beat the timer.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 21:26:30
December 01 2014 21:25 GMT
#5810
On December 02 2014 06:20 futsel wrote:
What would be the point in running LFR several times if you're only getting the loot once? Apart from carrying someone


Masochism. I was just being thorough

Also, how does the cross-realm work. I've seen people from other realms advertize their guild. Does that mean you can be in the guild of another realm and group up with them to pvp/pve anytime you want? Share the guild bank etc.?


You share the world zones and can be in the same group (this includes running every raid difficulty except mythic togehter) but can't trade with them or join their guilds.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
futsel
Profile Joined August 2006
163 Posts
December 01 2014 21:25 GMT
#5811
On December 02 2014 06:22 Serejai wrote:
you basically have to learn when to use a potion, when to go invis, what mobs to skip, what mechanics to ignore... you can't just step in and start killing things, else you won't beat the timer.


This sounds awesome. Can't wait to get my "hands" on challenge modes.
it's all a joke
futsel
Profile Joined August 2006
163 Posts
December 01 2014 21:27 GMT
#5812
On December 02 2014 06:25 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 06:20 futsel wrote:
What would be the point in running LFR several times if you're only getting the loot once? Apart from carrying someone


Masochism



So in theory you can raid at least 4 times a week? Once (or more) @ LFR, once @ normal, once @ heroic and once @ mythic?
it's all a joke
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 01 2014 21:28 GMT
#5813
Yep
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
futsel
Profile Joined August 2006
163 Posts
December 01 2014 21:30 GMT
#5814
On December 02 2014 06:25 Teoita wrote:
You share the world zones and can be in the same group (this includes running every raid difficulty except mythic togehter) but can't trade with them or join their guilds.


Then why advertizing your guild on another realm though? o_O
it's all a joke
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 01 2014 21:37 GMT
#5815
On December 02 2014 06:22 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 05:05 Firebolt145 wrote:
Oh.


Highly recommend not using oQueue or whatnot to form a CM group. You're gonna have to find some of the current CM groups on your server and try to infiltrate your way into them.

It's a completely different game; less about skill and more about reading. Lots and lots of reading - you basically have to learn when to use a potion, when to go invis, what mobs to skip, what mechanics to ignore... you can't just step in and start killing things, else you won't beat the timer.

This is only true if you want gold, if you want bronze or silver you don't have to do all that shit.
WriterXiao8~~
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34486 Posts
December 01 2014 21:39 GMT
#5816
What are the rewards like for the different medals?
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 01 2014 21:39 GMT
#5817
Achievements only, bronze will yield you a random epic either way and gold or silver doesn't improve that.
WriterXiao8~~
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 21:41:27
December 01 2014 21:40 GMT
#5818
On December 02 2014 06:39 Firebolt145 wrote:
What are the rewards like for the different medals?

title for all bronze, yeti mount for all silver, transmog gear for all gold.

Gear only comes from the daily quest, and just completing it (no medal) is enough to get finish the quest. Quest gives 1 random 640.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 01 2014 21:40 GMT
#5819
Yeah but why bother with CMs if you aren't trying for gold? That's the entire point of them; it's essentially speedrunning for WoW.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
December 01 2014 21:42 GMT
#5820
On December 02 2014 06:40 Serejai wrote:
Yeah but why bother with CMs if you aren't trying for gold? That's the entire point of them; it's essentially speedrunning for WoW.

I doubt I would have done any if not for the daily quest.
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