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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 01 2014 21:48 GMT
#5821
On December 02 2014 06:30 futsel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 06:25 Teoita wrote:
You share the world zones and can be in the same group (this includes running every raid difficulty except mythic togehter) but can't trade with them or join their guilds.


Then why advertizing your guild on another realm though? o_O


You share /2 and /1 so people from every batch of connected realms will see it, including people from your own realm
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 01 2014 21:53 GMT
#5822
On December 02 2014 06:40 Serejai wrote:
Yeah but why bother with CMs if you aren't trying for gold? That's the entire point of them; it's essentially speedrunning for WoW.

Because you get gear from it?
WriterXiao8~~
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 01 2014 21:55 GMT
#5823
Is that what this game has devolved to? Nothing but gear matters? The one piece of challenging content Blizzard puts in the game and people only want to do it for gear to make the easier content even easier?
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 21:56:43
December 01 2014 21:56 GMT
#5824
It's not to make the easy content even easier, it's to gear up for raids as well as you can.

Going with that logic people shouldnt even farm pre raid gear because otherwise pre-mythic tiers of raiding become even easier
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 21:58:46
December 01 2014 21:56 GMT
#5825
You asked a question and we gave an answer?

like, there are other reasons why people want to run it, its not just speedrunning for WoW lol. Should we dump all our gear and do Mythic raids in greens? Also, they are quite fun to run even if you don't go for gold.
WriterXiao8~~
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
December 01 2014 22:11 GMT
#5826
Ok, but that's like signing up for the Olympics and going "I'm not gonna try for gold, I just want the experience and my free participation ribbon!".

I mean, there's a design flaw somewhere if people are only running the hardest content in the game in order to gear up for the other content, and not because they actually want a challenge.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 01 2014 22:13 GMT
#5827
Come now, people are facetious, just stating main reason doesn't mean other reasons don't matter.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
futsel
Profile Joined August 2006
163 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 22:15:51
December 01 2014 22:14 GMT
#5828
On December 02 2014 06:55 Serejai wrote:
Is that what this game has devolved to? Nothing but gear matters? The one piece of challenging content Blizzard puts in the game and people only want to do it for gear to make the easier content even easier?


Well that's the wrong point of view on the game. "-Why do you kill monsters? -To get more gear! -Why? -To kill more monsters! -Why? -To get more gear!" etc.

In order for you to experience the higher levels of challenge you have got to have proper gear.
I think arena is the perfect example of that. Say you are a skilled master. And you know you can challenge people on top ratings and get gladiator title. But in order to do that, you've gotta have the GEAR. Without it no matter how skilled you are, you won't be able to advance to these levels (this only worked in vanilla...maybe tbc for a bit).
So you need better gear, you have to be rewarded with it from smaller challenges in order to advance to the higher ones. See?
it's all a joke
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 01 2014 22:15 GMT
#5829
On December 02 2014 06:55 Serejai wrote:
Is that what this game has devolved to? Nothing but gear matters? The one piece of challenging content Blizzard puts in the game and people only want to do it for gear to make the easier content even easier?


I can't speak for everyone but I'm pretty sure people have been 'whoring' for gear like it's the only thing that matters since Vanilla
AdministratorBreak the chains
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 01 2014 22:18 GMT
#5830
On December 02 2014 07:11 Serejai wrote:
Ok, but that's like signing up for the Olympics and going "I'm not gonna try for gold, I just want the experience and my free participation ribbon!".

I mean, there's a design flaw somewhere if people are only running the hardest content in the game in order to gear up for the other content, and not because they actually want a challenge.


What if i told you that people like the challenge AND the gear? Mindblowing amirite?
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 22:35:44
December 01 2014 22:33 GMT
#5831
atleast for me the speedrunning aspect is kind of meh to me because of gear differences. Speedrunning is more enjoyable when everyone is playing on an even field.

I just enjoy them for the challenge + gear
Doom Guy
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 22:37:41
December 01 2014 22:37 GMT
#5832
On December 02 2014 07:33 KingDime wrote:
atleast for me the speedrunning aspect is kind of meh to me because of gear differences. Speedrunning is more enjoyable when everyone is playing on an even field.

I just enjoy them for the challenge + gear

But, they ARE normalized to an even playing field.

Unless you mean extreme min/maxing like secondary stats
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
December 01 2014 22:43 GMT
#5833
I wouldn't even call it extreme, proper secondaries make a big difference.
Doom Guy
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22008 Posts
December 01 2014 22:50 GMT
#5834
On December 02 2014 07:11 Serejai wrote:
Ok, but that's like signing up for the Olympics and going "I'm not gonna try for gold, I just want the experience and my free participation ribbon!".

I mean, there's a design flaw somewhere if people are only running the hardest content in the game in order to gear up for the other content, and not because they actually want a challenge.

Its like signing up for the Olympics (Mythics) and going to the store to get good shoes (CM daily gear).

Now you may argue that Mythic is not the end game but for those people farming CM dailies for gear it most likely is.

Yes wow is gear > bosses > more gear > more bosses for a lot of raiders.
Welcome to the formula that has kept this game going for a decade.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24751 Posts
December 01 2014 23:18 GMT
#5835
On December 02 2014 07:11 Serejai wrote:
Ok, but that's like signing up for the Olympics and going "I'm not gonna try for gold, I just want the experience and my free participation ribbon!".

If the participation ribbon is a 50,000 dollar car, I will happily participate in the Olympics.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 01 2014 23:23 GMT
#5836
On a sidenote the fact that armor/weapon enhancement for followers don't stack is sorta annoying in terms of bag space ;;.
WriterXiao8~~
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 01 2014 23:24 GMT
#5837
In our small pvp guild, we do CM just because it's hard for us to finish them, we usually do them in 2 or 3 hours, depending on people's afk during them.
Honestly, you don't need to aim for gold to fidn them fun...
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-01 23:30:08
December 01 2014 23:29 GMT
#5838
Wtb a tank for CM Auchindoun, NA Alliance
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 01 2014 23:32 GMT
#5839
come and play on EU firebolt
WriterXiao8~~
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
December 01 2014 23:34 GMT
#5840
Why do you play NA? And why are you alliance? I'd heal for you otherwise.
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