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On December 01 2014 00:34 Cyro wrote:


I've never seen a DPS that high (ever) and i can't do that myself with 2h frost (maintain for 2-3 minutes) with i630+ every slot but weapon, i'm speccing unholy today to learn the spec and test damage etc but doing 2-3 million damage as a melee at 20kdps, i'm nowhere close to that. The longer movement heavy fights like last one in UBRS where healer can't keep up if i take avoidable damage it's at like two thirds of that - but then, the higher raid damage is in general, the better the tank/healer is etc makes a huge difference as a melee, feels like sometimes in that situation where if i die then the whole encounter fails (so gotta be super careful and wait without damaging sometimes) and the boss takes forever to die and no cooldowns are left and DPS drops towards 10k, but other times stuff gets blitzed super super fast with a great group and i'm near 20k by the time it dies. I'm not doing max damage possible with the gear in either situation, but i don't think i'm that bad of a player and if there's a way to sustain 20k single target for an extended duration of time (like 2 mill damage), i'm really missing it right now

That does seem like an over the top number though, i've got Zaela down with no DPS higher than 10-12.5k by the end of the fight, it just becomes a huge fucking trainwreck on a lot of CM fights if you can't end them quickly enough

On December 01 2014 01:13 Duka08 wrote:
Can't you still buy the heirlooms from the guild vendor? Just the helm, pants, and cloak? 25% still helps.

On December 01 2014 00:34 Cyro wrote:
I've never seen a DPS that high (ever) and i can't do that myself with 2h frost (maintain for 2-3 minutes) with i630+ every slot but weapon, i'm speccing unholy today to learn the spec and test damage etc but doing 2-3 million damage as a melee at 20kdps, i'm nowhere close to that.

On December 01 2014 02:34 Valenius wrote:


Agreed.. We've cleared all of the one's we've touched on silver (without using invis/mobs skips etc) and our dps are only pulling 15-17k single target.

On December 01 2014 02:32 Firebolt145 wrote:
Any tanks/healers on the NA servers who are willing to have me tag along for heroics? DPS queues are sad

On December 01 2014 02:55 Tephus wrote:



It's definitely doable with those numbers.

I've seen dps end single target CM bosses with 30-40k though. If you start the fight with full buffs( lust, trinks, flask, food, pre pot) and end the fight with the op executes so many classes seem to have these days, it's very much doable.

Our DK tank can even put up over 20k sometimes.

On December 01 2014 03:03 dae wrote:


Are you Horde or Alliance - If your horde, add me Dai#1288 (NA)

On December 01 2014 04:18 Cyro wrote:


It sounds doable, but if your tank isn't doing much damage, you have a PUG mage who dies immediately or does 8-10k and you spend part of the lust running from fire and then most of the fight awkwardly hitting the boss 70% to 35%, it usually looks more like 13-14k in my experience

askmrrobot gives me like, 25.6k score for frost 2h in my gear, 29k for unholy just on the stuff that i have in bag. I'm not entirely sure what that's based on, but i know i can gain some performance switching to dual wield frost + 2h unholy

gems dont count

On December 01 2014 04:46 Cyro wrote:


Oh really? Is there a list of these random hidden rules somewhere that i can catch up on? Do enchants count, do they give 0 stats or does the stuff like +10% movespeed not work?

I just did first boss of UBRS, me and mage were at ~24k after like 15 seconds of lust and even with a really bad third DPS the boss would have got to execute range really fast so i can believe 20k np with good group, but 30 must be really quite boss dependent. Maybe Potions? They give ~1000 strength for 15 seconds, but cost like 70g a pop last time i checked - you can use them twice per fight if that has not changed

On December 01 2014 04:46 Cyro wrote:


Oh really? Is there a list of these random hidden rules somewhere that i can catch up on? Do enchants count, do they give 0 stats or does the stuff like +10% movespeed not work?

I just did first boss of UBRS, me and mage were at ~24k after like 15 seconds of lust and even with a really bad third DPS the boss would have got to execute range really fast so i can believe 20k np with good group, but 30 must be really quite boss dependent. Maybe Potions? They give ~1000 strength for 15 seconds, but cost like 70g a pop last time i checked - you can use them twice per fight if that has not changed

On December 01 2014 05:08 Warri wrote:

Enchants count. Set boni dont (they didnt in mop already). Im not sure if there is a list of everything summed up, but heres the blue post on gems.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14505830447?page=2#30

On December 01 2014 04:52 DCRed wrote:


There are bosses like the first one in everbloom which has damage taken increase debuff on him. Most of the 50k dps stuff you see is against stuff like this, healer going dps and burning boss really fast with somekind of buff and then just all cds, pots, foods etc. +22k is doable though just single target for the top specs.

On December 01 2014 06:15 Teoita wrote:
Gratz!

Cm's are probably the hardest 5man content since TBC heroics. It's fucking awesome even when you can't get the whole instance done tbh.