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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 27 2014 16:53 GMT
#5541
On November 28 2014 01:50 Teoita wrote:
Glad wasnt even ingame at level 90...


And this is exactly why I am writing his entire post off as a casual player complaining because he's not overpowered anymore.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 27 2014 16:55 GMT
#5542
On November 28 2014 01:42 digmouse wrote:
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=85911
The Inscription Trainer at Stormshield in Ashran was based on a Chinese WoW player named Zhi Yuan Cao who fought with bone cancer, I'm sad to report that he passed away at 10:50pm China Standard Time, November 27th 2014.


RIP China dude.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 27 2014 16:56 GMT
#5543
On November 28 2014 01:44 convention wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 01:31 FrankDaGreat wrote:
Well crap might be a big word but really here is the problem that i have with warrior right now:

1- Arms: Boring as fuck, i literally have to spam whirlwind to keep my dps up and use my rage, i have nothing else to do between MS and CS cooldown

2- Fury: Undertoned alot, for the spec to actually be good, you need a crap ton of crit ( like 30% ) for it to start being usefull ( not having crits on BT really fuck the rotation up )

3- Glad stance: While the spec is fun on single target, its horrible as an AOE spec ( which dungeon is about 75% of the stuff you kill in there ) and now 2 of your single target ability got pushed back by 20%, it sucks ( and it almost kill the reason any warrior would get invited for a CM group as our dps is the lowerst of all tanks )

It was OP at lvl 90, those changes in number shouldn't have happened at 100 though.

It was also OP at 100, pretty significantly OP.
http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings#630,real,3


Please don't ever got to noxxic.com again. In fact, I would recommend downloading some kind of website blocker and blacklisting it until you wean yourself off using it.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 27 2014 16:59 GMT
#5544
On November 28 2014 01:56 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 01:44 convention wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:31 FrankDaGreat wrote:
Well crap might be a big word but really here is the problem that i have with warrior right now:

1- Arms: Boring as fuck, i literally have to spam whirlwind to keep my dps up and use my rage, i have nothing else to do between MS and CS cooldown

2- Fury: Undertoned alot, for the spec to actually be good, you need a crap ton of crit ( like 30% ) for it to start being usefull ( not having crits on BT really fuck the rotation up )

3- Glad stance: While the spec is fun on single target, its horrible as an AOE spec ( which dungeon is about 75% of the stuff you kill in there ) and now 2 of your single target ability got pushed back by 20%, it sucks ( and it almost kill the reason any warrior would get invited for a CM group as our dps is the lowerst of all tanks )

It was OP at lvl 90, those changes in number shouldn't have happened at 100 though.

It was also OP at 100, pretty significantly OP.
http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings#630,real,3


Please don't ever got to noxxic.com again. In fact, I would recommend downloading some kind of website blocker and blacklisting it until you wean yourself off using it.

Well generally they have the correct stat priorities/gems/talents/etc because they can just copy that from a better site.

But yeah what he said.

Anyway I'm glad I went with resto druid this expansion. We're doing well and I'm at the point where heroics are (mostly) a breeze, depending of course on the group. I seriously considered playing shaman again and I'm glad I didn't. Looks pretty shaky which is sad for me D:
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HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
November 27 2014 17:02 GMT
#5545
Yeah I definitely feel like my Ele shaman is underperforming at 100.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 27 2014 17:04 GMT
#5546
On November 28 2014 02:02 HackBenjamin wrote:
Yeah I definitely feel like my Ele shaman is underperforming at 100.

And that was my main consideration. I played enhancement in TBC, ele in Wotlk, Prot/arms warrior in Cata, practically nothing in MoP, and now Druid. I really wanted to go back to shaman for this one but I got scared off.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
November 27 2014 17:06 GMT
#5547
Resto shaman were good for a long time; 'bout time that they felt some of that underpowered healer pain.
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KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
November 27 2014 17:16 GMT
#5548
Is crit or multistrike preferable as resto druid. I know haste mastery is optimal but it's hard to get perfect secondaries for every single item. AKA rag 640 (crit/haste) helm vs warforged 646 (mastery/multistrike) helm.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 27 2014 17:19 GMT
#5549
On November 28 2014 02:16 KingDime wrote:
Is crit or multistrike preferable as resto druid. I know haste mastery is optimal but it's hard to get perfect secondaries for every single item. AKA rag 640 (crit/haste) helm vs warforged 646 (mastery/multistrike) helm.

I've been told and I've seen Multistrike slightly ahead of crit
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 27 2014 17:27 GMT
#5550
MM hunters are the #1 right now with DK coming in second, I don't meet enough Monks to judge them but they seem to do quite a lot of dmg as tank I think?

Having a ton more fun with my disc priest then rogue atm although sub can be quite fun.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 27 2014 17:30 GMT
#5551
On November 28 2014 02:27 Kipsate wrote:
MM hunters are the #1 right now with DK coming in second, I don't meet enough Monks to judge them but they seem to do quite a lot of dmg as tank I think?

Having a ton more fun with my disc priest then rogue atm although sub can be quite fun.

They also seem to take quite a lot of damage as tanks.

When I get into heroics I feel like I can snooze though a run with a DK/protadin/prot warrior while I have to bring my a game with a monk and be pretty focused for bears as well.

Of course different players mitigate better but still seems Monks get hit hard
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
November 27 2014 17:30 GMT
#5552
On November 28 2014 02:27 Kipsate wrote:
MM hunters are the #1 right now with DK coming in second, I don't meet enough Monks to judge them but they seem to do quite a lot of dmg as tank I think?

Having a ton more fun with my disc priest then rogue atm although sub can be quite fun.


How is unholy vs frost?

I'm not sure if i'm bad right now, i have some very good overall DPS numbers that would be way higher if i used dual wield frost for instance trash etc but for single target dps, it's kinda hard to judge. What's the best HC boss to use as a benchmark do you guys think?

Just patchwerk style. Maybe i should use a target dummy
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
November 27 2014 17:33 GMT
#5553
On November 28 2014 02:27 Kipsate wrote:
MM hunters are the #1 right now with DK coming in second, I don't meet enough Monks to judge them but they seem to do quite a lot of dmg as tank I think?

Having a ton more fun with my disc priest then rogue atm although sub can be quite fun.


WW monks currently do a lot of dps.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 27 2014 17:39 GMT
#5554
There isn't really a patchwerk fight right now, HC bosses don't have enough hp, you can try and go LFR MC and dps I suppose? Pretty much all bosses require some form of running around or dodging stuff, hence why hunters are super good as well(and perhaps their numbers are therefore inflated). On a patchwerk fight I might be able to compete with hunters as sub I think but that fight doesn't really exist.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 27 2014 17:44 GMT
#5555
I've seen a total of one Monk so far this expansion. Kind of expected them to be everywhere.

Still can't go ten feet without seeing a DK.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
November 27 2014 17:49 GMT
#5556
On November 28 2014 02:44 Serejai wrote:
I've seen a total of one Monk so far this expansion. Kind of expected them to be everywhere.

Still can't go ten feet without seeing a DK.

Aren't their healer/tank specs not doing well?
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Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
November 27 2014 17:51 GMT
#5557
What is up with the PvP gear scaling btw? Just game out of AV (and SotA later had the same issue) and where I expected the scaling to be 600->660, 620->675 what actually happened was

600->710
620->705
Random quest greens -> 650

First of all the values are different from those on the tooltips, and second of all the 600 gear actually scaled higher than the 620 gear. Is this a visual bug, gameplay bug or working as intended? If so, why?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
November 27 2014 17:59 GMT
#5558
Both healing and tanking for Monks got buffed recently, so you should be seeing more of them.

In any case, as a 636 BM monk, I can breezily tank any heroic now, and have completed two challenge modes, though not without a lot of pain. As a 636 MW monk, on the other hand, I can also get through any heroic pretty breezily now, save for a few fights in which the aoe damage really pushes the monk's abilities to their limit (namely the second boss in Skyreach and the last boss of Grimrail). I haven't even tried CMs as a MW, and don't plan to really lol; Monk healing is clearly optimized for raids.
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 27 2014 17:59 GMT
#5559
On November 28 2014 02:39 Kipsate wrote:
There isn't really a patchwerk fight right now, HC bosses don't have enough hp, you can try and go LFR MC and dps I suppose? Pretty much all bosses require some form of running around or dodging stuff, hence why hunters are super good as well(and perhaps their numbers are therefore inflated). On a patchwerk fight I might be able to compete with hunters as sub I think but that fight doesn't really exist.


The Butcher (first boss in Highmaul) is quite close to a Patchwerk fight, so we'll see then.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24764 Posts
November 27 2014 18:01 GMT
#5560
What do you guys mean by a patchwork fight? I have only done it as old content.
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