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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
November 27 2014 09:29 GMT
#5521
On November 27 2014 13:37 Noocta wrote:
I randomly found the Sha of Anger while roaming pandaria. I'm ' this" close to solo'ing it with my Hunter, because me and my pet take turn being mind controled and his debuff that buff healthf make it so neither of us can really die, and mind controlling by NPCs on Hunter as always been weird, because I hit in melee and use Mend Pet lol

Got him to 50% but then my pet died from a bad rng.

This is pretty much exactly what happened to me ~3 days ago
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 27 2014 11:17 GMT
#5522
Aww yeah my Mistweaver got an urgently needed buff.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15353876659#1

50% more heal on enveloping mists is not what I expected, but I'll take it. Aoe heal is still underwheming, so I guess I am a tank healer now.


Btw it is pretty insane how huge some of the class buffs are. Surprising to me that balancing on WOD release is this far off with how much time they took for this addon.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 27 2014 11:40 GMT
#5523
Nice, did a random heroic yesterday. Had a monk tank and monk healer, i was scared to say the least. It went well though because he CCd everything haha.
Monk healing was fun when i did it though, PvP anyway, i don't like it PvE hmm.
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Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
November 27 2014 12:04 GMT
#5524
Hm, did they stealth nerf from mage or something? I didn't find anything about it, but my icelances and FFBs seem to hit for less than they used to a few days ago :o
On the other hand, arcane isn't good and fire still sucks rip
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 27 2014 13:38 GMT
#5525
Similar issue with Moonkin; no nerfs in the patch notes, but I'm doing slightly less DPS than I was before it.

The thing that makes it really odd for me is that I've gotten six new pieces of gear and picked my level 100 talent (forgot about it), but my DPS decreased. Two frost mages in my Brawler's Guild group last night were both complaining about their ice lances being weaker as well.

All anecdotal, though.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 13:43:38
November 27 2014 13:43 GMT
#5526
Also depressing, Blizzard is considering changing Travel Form back to how it used to be; ie not automatic. Looks like the vocal minority of erotic roleplayers and furries has gotten their attention.

I don't even see how their argument holds any weight at all this expansion. "But we want to be able to show off our cheetah mode in cities!" What cities? You're in a Garrison this expansion.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
November 27 2014 14:02 GMT
#5527
On November 27 2014 21:04 Nimix wrote:
Hm, did they stealth nerf from mage or something? I didn't find anything about it, but my icelances and FFBs seem to hit for less than they used to a few days ago :o
On the other hand, arcane isn't good and fire still sucks rip


If they did nerf frost i will seriously consider rerolling for the first time since Vanilla.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
November 27 2014 15:33 GMT
#5528
I haven't seen an issues, but that's not to say it hasn't happened.
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FrankDaGreat
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada31 Posts
November 27 2014 15:43 GMT
#5529
Eh try playing a warrior, the class is crap and the only good spec already got nerfed
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” ― Albert Einstein
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
November 27 2014 15:49 GMT
#5530
Like clockwork. Every time anything changes regarding class balance, all of the message boards start filling up with whining and complaints.

That's not to say a reasonable discussion about current class capabilities can't be had, but people should also try to be a bit more easygoing. This is supposed to be a game we play to have fun!
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 27 2014 15:50 GMT
#5531
I keep hearing how Warriors are crap now but they still do more than Moonkin, all Mages, all Shamans, all Rogues...

Really, the only specs that do better than a Warrior right now are Feral, DKs, and Windwalkers. I'm not sure being the fourth best DPS class can be considered "crap".
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22584 Posts
November 27 2014 15:58 GMT
#5532
On November 28 2014 00:50 Serejai wrote:
I keep hearing how Warriors are crap now but they still do more than Moonkin, all Mages, all Shamans, all Rogues...

Really, the only specs that do better than a Warrior right now are Feral, DKs, and Windwalkers. I'm not sure being the fourth best DPS class can be considered "crap".

Warrior issues are not about the damage numbers, the mechanics are horrible.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 27 2014 16:06 GMT
#5533
Pretty sure that's just about every spec this expansion.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 16:16:00
November 27 2014 16:12 GMT
#5534
Not sure what people are complaining about with warriors. Glad was op as fuck but gameplay wise it was fine and everyone loved it, the nerf to it was justified. Now all of a sudden it's unplayable?

Fury simply went back to an older iteration of it, which arguably makes more sense because why would you pull resources just like arms does.

Arms is pure ass i agree with that.

Compared to being a pure dps spec having one viable but underwheling spec that does about 40% of the overall damage for the fight on pull and then might as well afk...yeah. Or the new eclipse bar, or feral having 40% downtime (and still pulling insane numbers). Those are in a much much worse state than warriors (again, except arms).
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 16:15:54
November 27 2014 16:15 GMT
#5535
On November 28 2014 01:12 Teoita wrote:
Now all of a sudden it's unplayable?


Basically this. Nobody said a word about Warriors when they were blatantly overpowered, but now that they've been toned down a tiny bit all of a sudden they've been unplayable all along. Funny how that works.
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FrankDaGreat
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada31 Posts
November 27 2014 16:31 GMT
#5536
Well crap might be a big word but really here is the problem that i have with warrior right now:

1- Arms: Boring as fuck, i literally have to spam whirlwind to keep my dps up and use my rage, i have nothing else to do between MS and CS cooldown

2- Fury: Undertoned alot, for the spec to actually be good, you need a crap ton of crit ( like 30% ) for it to start being usefull ( not having crits on BT really fuck the rotation up )

3- Glad stance: While the spec is fun on single target, its horrible as an AOE spec ( which dungeon is about 75% of the stuff you kill in there ) and now 2 of your single target ability got pushed back by 20%, it sucks ( and it almost kill the reason any warrior would get invited for a CM group as our dps is the lowerst of all tanks )

It was OP at lvl 90, those changes in number shouldn't have happened at 100 though.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” ― Albert Einstein
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
November 27 2014 16:42 GMT
#5537
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=85911
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convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
November 27 2014 16:44 GMT
#5538
On November 28 2014 01:31 FrankDaGreat wrote:
Well crap might be a big word but really here is the problem that i have with warrior right now:

1- Arms: Boring as fuck, i literally have to spam whirlwind to keep my dps up and use my rage, i have nothing else to do between MS and CS cooldown

2- Fury: Undertoned alot, for the spec to actually be good, you need a crap ton of crit ( like 30% ) for it to start being usefull ( not having crits on BT really fuck the rotation up )

3- Glad stance: While the spec is fun on single target, its horrible as an AOE spec ( which dungeon is about 75% of the stuff you kill in there ) and now 2 of your single target ability got pushed back by 20%, it sucks ( and it almost kill the reason any warrior would get invited for a CM group as our dps is the lowerst of all tanks )

It was OP at lvl 90, those changes in number shouldn't have happened at 100 though.

It was also OP at 100, pretty significantly OP.
http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings#630,real,3
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
November 27 2014 16:48 GMT
#5539
On November 28 2014 01:44 convention wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 01:31 FrankDaGreat wrote:
Well crap might be a big word but really here is the problem that i have with warrior right now:

1- Arms: Boring as fuck, i literally have to spam whirlwind to keep my dps up and use my rage, i have nothing else to do between MS and CS cooldown

2- Fury: Undertoned alot, for the spec to actually be good, you need a crap ton of crit ( like 30% ) for it to start being usefull ( not having crits on BT really fuck the rotation up )

3- Glad stance: While the spec is fun on single target, its horrible as an AOE spec ( which dungeon is about 75% of the stuff you kill in there ) and now 2 of your single target ability got pushed back by 20%, it sucks ( and it almost kill the reason any warrior would get invited for a CM group as our dps is the lowerst of all tanks )

It was OP at lvl 90, those changes in number shouldn't have happened at 100 though.

It was also OP at 100, pretty significantly OP.
http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings#630,real,3


Noxxic is bad, very very bad. Never ever read anything let alone believe what you read over in noxxic.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
November 27 2014 16:50 GMT
#5540
Glad wasnt even ingame at level 90...
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
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