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DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 17:47:17
November 26 2014 17:47 GMT
#5481
On November 27 2014 01:20 Vallelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 00:29 Kipsate wrote:
Did some shadowpriesting and my god mind sear is depressing, dotless shadowpriest single target is fun though.

Either way Disc is still my fav spec despite archangel being nothubg more then a critspell for PoH now. I hope they adress shadowpriest aoe but it seems as though with the netf to RoF it seems unlikely that they will buff mind Sear.


Insanity and/or our mastery increasing mind sear dmg would be a good start, seems odd anyway that mastery is increasing every "mind" spell except mind sear.


Devs know about mind sear and changes should be coming before/after first week. They said they'd be looking at lvl 90 talents as well. Oh and with cop you still you use dots after banking up orbs.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 26 2014 18:55 GMT
#5482
On November 27 2014 02:46 Teoita wrote:
Who would have thought


Guess where Mages have been?

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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 26 2014 19:09 GMT
#5483
Also Bear tanks are breaking 1 million HP already in 5-mans. Good stat squish.
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DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
November 26 2014 19:15 GMT
#5484
On November 27 2014 04:09 Serejai wrote:
Also Bear tanks are breaking 1 million HP already in 5-mans. Good stat squish.


Player hp was left higher intentionally because of pvp, but I've hard time believing they wont introduce battle fatique in later seasons again.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
November 26 2014 19:23 GMT
#5485
On November 27 2014 04:15 DCRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 04:09 Serejai wrote:
Also Bear tanks are breaking 1 million HP already in 5-mans. Good stat squish.


Player hp was left higher intentionally because of pvp, but I've hard time believing they wont introduce battle fatique in later seasons again.

There is absolutely no way to prevent power inflation with 4 different gear levels per tier, and then having conq gear keep pace with the highest. The power spikes will be insane. Next expansion we'll likely be back to MoP numbers and well beyond.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 26 2014 19:36 GMT
#5486
On November 27 2014 04:15 DCRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 04:09 Serejai wrote:
Also Bear tanks are breaking 1 million HP already in 5-mans. Good stat squish.


Player hp was left higher intentionally because of pvp, but I've hard time believing they wont introduce battle fatique in later seasons again.


Yeah, so how do you balance PvE? You have one tank with 1,000,000 HP and my biggest 3 second heal is doing 10k damage. You balance the incoming boss damage around the healers, not the tank, in which case the tank can pretty much go without a heal for 30 seconds at a time. If you try to increase the boss damage to compensate, you end up being forced to buff heals as well, which screws up other aspects of the game.

Basically they shot themselves in the foot with Stamina this expansion.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22440 Posts
November 26 2014 21:34 GMT
#5487
Bears at 1mil when warriors/paladins are under 300k? wtf is happening there.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18865 Posts
November 26 2014 21:35 GMT
#5488
Yeah, tanking is incredibly inconsistent class to class. Druids can go to hell.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 26 2014 21:53 GMT
#5489
Don't hate. Sum durids is bare, and bare can B 4 tank.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 26 2014 22:43 GMT
#5490
Looting 630ilvl weapons in Heroic is a nightmare, seriously

Also, I'm not a fan of the BiS pre raid being epic World drop only the richest guilds can afford.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 26 2014 22:54 GMT
#5491
I have yet to see a bear with 1 million hp in a 5man. I would ask for pics for that. Even full buffed I rarely see druids over 300k so I have no idea where you get 1 million.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 26 2014 23:01 GMT
#5492
Is MM the current PvE hunter spec?
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
November 26 2014 23:01 GMT
#5493
On November 27 2014 06:53 Serejai wrote:
Don't hate. Sum durids is bare, and bare can B 4 tank.


Is that thread still anywhere?
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 26 2014 23:20 GMT
#5494
On November 27 2014 07:54 Alventenie wrote:
I have yet to see a bear with 1 million hp in a 5man. I would ask for pics for that. Even full buffed I rarely see druids over 300k so I have no idea where you get 1 million.


You're probably seeing a bunch of ~630 bears.

[image loading]
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 26 2014 23:20 GMT
#5495
On November 27 2014 08:01 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 06:53 Serejai wrote:
Don't hate. Sum durids is bare, and bare can B 4 tank.


Is that thread still anywhere?


On my hard drive :D
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Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
November 26 2014 23:23 GMT
#5496
It's on the wiki page: http://www.wowwiki.com/Alamo
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-26 23:28:31
November 26 2014 23:28 GMT
#5497
that bear looks to have some temp effects on, priest buff + buff food + trinket + some stacking health buff "ursa major". the buff seems imba :-)
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 26 2014 23:30 GMT
#5498
On November 27 2014 08:20 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 07:54 Alventenie wrote:
I have yet to see a bear with 1 million hp in a 5man. I would ask for pics for that. Even full buffed I rarely see druids over 300k so I have no idea where you get 1 million.


You're probably seeing a bunch of ~630 bears.

[image loading]



Seems weird to have you gain 700k life in only 15ish ilevels. One of my guild druids is 636 or 638 in tanking gear and barely breaks 300k.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 26 2014 23:37 GMT
#5499
Well, there are some buffs at play and whatnot so it's not like he's walking around Stormwind with that much health. But, that's the kind of health that is possible in a raid environment next week and ultimately that's where it matters. The fact that we're able to hit that much through any means at the moment is very concerning. Highmaul will have people in 695 ilvl, which is a pretty massive jump over what that bear currently has.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 26 2014 23:39 GMT
#5500
Here's one in PvP gear, even higher @ 1.6m

[image loading]
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