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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 18 2014 18:42 GMT
#2561
On August 19 2014 03:20 musai wrote:
I do one 4 hour raid a week, and we're 13/14H working on Garrosh soon. You just need to find a good casual group =D

Oh I don't doubt it

I dunno though. I joined my friends' guild because I like playing with them, but they're a hardcore 3 nights a week with alt runs 2 other nights type raiders. I'd love to be that sort of guy again, but I don't have the time or energy tbh. I'll probably look for a different group to run with, but I'd miss raiding with friends. Conflicting.
It's your boy Guzma!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 18 2014 18:47 GMT
#2562
On August 19 2014 02:38 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 02:14 Requizen wrote:
How are LFRs? I quit during Cata and was in a raiding guild during that time, so I never did any then. Nowadays, I don't have nearly as much free time as I did back then, but still want to see content. Are the people in LFRs really bad? Is the content way too easy and boring? I still want a challenge but I don't know if I have 3 nights a week to raid + prep time anymore.


It's a huge misconception that challenging content requires a lot of time and effort. LFR is definitely not the challenge you're looking for, and you should be able to find a guild that does Heroic raiding and raids less than 4-5 hours a week. It takes about an hour and a half to clear a raid instance once you have it on farm, and since tiers these days only have one raid instead of 2-3 like they used to, that's about two hours a week including prep time.

Unless you're looking for a top 3 server guild then there's really no reason to raid more than two nights (four hours) a week. You will honestly spend longer in LFR because of all the "special" players in there (and more often than not one or both tanks seem to be, which further complicates the run). I think you should have no trouble finding a real 10m guild that only raids one or two nights a week.

Probably depends on the server you are on. I started again playing a little of WoW when patch 5.4 was released. But all I ever did was LFR raids. Could not get into non-LFR raids because equipment too bad (they expected you to have equip from SoG normal to do SoG normal). Could not get into a guild because only LFR equip and limited time. Stopped playing then.

Surely its easier if you know people on the server. But if you dont know anyone because of long absence it can be quite annoying.
Off-season = best season
musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
August 18 2014 18:51 GMT
#2563
On August 19 2014 03:42 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 03:20 musai wrote:
I do one 4 hour raid a week, and we're 13/14H working on Garrosh soon. You just need to find a good casual group =D

Oh I don't doubt it

I dunno though. I joined my friends' guild because I like playing with them, but they're a hardcore 3 nights a week with alt runs 2 other nights type raiders. I'd love to be that sort of guy again, but I don't have the time or energy tbh. I'll probably look for a different group to run with, but I'd miss raiding with friends. Conflicting.


Can you only go on their alt run?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 18 2014 18:54 GMT
#2564
On August 19 2014 03:51 musai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 03:42 Requizen wrote:
On August 19 2014 03:20 musai wrote:
I do one 4 hour raid a week, and we're 13/14H working on Garrosh soon. You just need to find a good casual group =D

Oh I don't doubt it

I dunno though. I joined my friends' guild because I like playing with them, but they're a hardcore 3 nights a week with alt runs 2 other nights type raiders. I'd love to be that sort of guy again, but I don't have the time or energy tbh. I'll probably look for a different group to run with, but I'd miss raiding with friends. Conflicting.


Can you only go on their alt run?

I'm not even maxed out right now since I only resubbed last Tuesday, so I can't go on anything

But yeah, if I wanted to join their actual raid group, I'd have to wait for a spot to open and then apply. Until then I'd only be going on alt runs, but their alt runs are Sat/Sun so I probably couldn't even do that since weekends can get busy for me. I'd either try to start a one day a week run with their alts, find another guild, or just do LFRs for a while.
It's your boy Guzma!
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
August 18 2014 19:13 GMT
#2565
On August 19 2014 03:47 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 02:38 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:14 Requizen wrote:
How are LFRs? I quit during Cata and was in a raiding guild during that time, so I never did any then. Nowadays, I don't have nearly as much free time as I did back then, but still want to see content. Are the people in LFRs really bad? Is the content way too easy and boring? I still want a challenge but I don't know if I have 3 nights a week to raid + prep time anymore.


It's a huge misconception that challenging content requires a lot of time and effort. LFR is definitely not the challenge you're looking for, and you should be able to find a guild that does Heroic raiding and raids less than 4-5 hours a week. It takes about an hour and a half to clear a raid instance once you have it on farm, and since tiers these days only have one raid instead of 2-3 like they used to, that's about two hours a week including prep time.

Unless you're looking for a top 3 server guild then there's really no reason to raid more than two nights (four hours) a week. You will honestly spend longer in LFR because of all the "special" players in there (and more often than not one or both tanks seem to be, which further complicates the run). I think you should have no trouble finding a real 10m guild that only raids one or two nights a week.

Probably depends on the server you are on. I started again playing a little of WoW when patch 5.4 was released. But all I ever did was LFR raids. Could not get into non-LFR raids because equipment too bad (they expected you to have equip from SoG normal to do SoG normal). Could not get into a guild because only LFR equip and limited time. Stopped playing then.

Surely its easier if you know people on the server. But if you dont know anyone because of long absence it can be quite annoying.


Server is probably the single most important aspect of the game if you're a raider (or do various other things, such as economy or PvP). Now that I think about it, it's probably the most important thing regardless of what you do in the game. Raid? Need a healthy raiding population. PvP? Need a server with RBG groups. Roleplay? There are servers for that, too.

It does indeed suck being on a dead server because you really can't get anything done. I used to play on low pop servers because they were relaxing back in TBC/WoTLK, but back then "low pop" was designated the same as "medium" is today. Currently I wouldn't touch any server that doesn't say "High" in the server browser, and even those - aside from the big few like Illidan - are barely what "medium" was years ago.

At least Blizzard finally acknowledged the problem and consolidated from 200 something servers down to 20 something (all these connected realms are actually the servers being moved to the same hardware; Blizzard is getting rid of 90% of their physical servers). That should help a lot in WoD.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 18 2014 19:28 GMT
#2566
On August 19 2014 04:13 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 03:47 Redox wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:38 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:14 Requizen wrote:
How are LFRs? I quit during Cata and was in a raiding guild during that time, so I never did any then. Nowadays, I don't have nearly as much free time as I did back then, but still want to see content. Are the people in LFRs really bad? Is the content way too easy and boring? I still want a challenge but I don't know if I have 3 nights a week to raid + prep time anymore.


It's a huge misconception that challenging content requires a lot of time and effort. LFR is definitely not the challenge you're looking for, and you should be able to find a guild that does Heroic raiding and raids less than 4-5 hours a week. It takes about an hour and a half to clear a raid instance once you have it on farm, and since tiers these days only have one raid instead of 2-3 like they used to, that's about two hours a week including prep time.

Unless you're looking for a top 3 server guild then there's really no reason to raid more than two nights (four hours) a week. You will honestly spend longer in LFR because of all the "special" players in there (and more often than not one or both tanks seem to be, which further complicates the run). I think you should have no trouble finding a real 10m guild that only raids one or two nights a week.

Probably depends on the server you are on. I started again playing a little of WoW when patch 5.4 was released. But all I ever did was LFR raids. Could not get into non-LFR raids because equipment too bad (they expected you to have equip from SoG normal to do SoG normal). Could not get into a guild because only LFR equip and limited time. Stopped playing then.

Surely its easier if you know people on the server. But if you dont know anyone because of long absence it can be quite annoying.


Server is probably the single most important aspect of the game if you're a raider (or do various other things, such as economy or PvP). Now that I think about it, it's probably the most important thing regardless of what you do in the game. Raid? Need a healthy raiding population. PvP? Need a server with RBG groups. Roleplay? There are servers for that, too.

It does indeed suck being on a dead server because you really can't get anything done. I used to play on low pop servers because they were relaxing back in TBC/WoTLK, but back then "low pop" was designated the same as "medium" is today. Currently I wouldn't touch any server that doesn't say "High" in the server browser, and even those - aside from the big few like Illidan - are barely what "medium" was years ago.

At least Blizzard finally acknowledged the problem and consolidated from 200 something servers down to 20 something (all these connected realms are actually the servers being moved to the same hardware; Blizzard is getting rid of 90% of their physical servers). That should help a lot in WoD.

I think the percentage of people playing actively in raiding guilds also has declined a lot since introduction of LFR. Many only do LFR or some of the casual timewasting stuff like achievements or pets or w/e people do. What I mean is even if the overall population of a server did not decline much, the number of people available to you to raid with in guilds did decline.
Off-season = best season
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 18 2014 19:36 GMT
#2567
On August 19 2014 04:28 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 04:13 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 03:47 Redox wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:38 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:14 Requizen wrote:
How are LFRs? I quit during Cata and was in a raiding guild during that time, so I never did any then. Nowadays, I don't have nearly as much free time as I did back then, but still want to see content. Are the people in LFRs really bad? Is the content way too easy and boring? I still want a challenge but I don't know if I have 3 nights a week to raid + prep time anymore.


It's a huge misconception that challenging content requires a lot of time and effort. LFR is definitely not the challenge you're looking for, and you should be able to find a guild that does Heroic raiding and raids less than 4-5 hours a week. It takes about an hour and a half to clear a raid instance once you have it on farm, and since tiers these days only have one raid instead of 2-3 like they used to, that's about two hours a week including prep time.

Unless you're looking for a top 3 server guild then there's really no reason to raid more than two nights (four hours) a week. You will honestly spend longer in LFR because of all the "special" players in there (and more often than not one or both tanks seem to be, which further complicates the run). I think you should have no trouble finding a real 10m guild that only raids one or two nights a week.

Probably depends on the server you are on. I started again playing a little of WoW when patch 5.4 was released. But all I ever did was LFR raids. Could not get into non-LFR raids because equipment too bad (they expected you to have equip from SoG normal to do SoG normal). Could not get into a guild because only LFR equip and limited time. Stopped playing then.

Surely its easier if you know people on the server. But if you dont know anyone because of long absence it can be quite annoying.


Server is probably the single most important aspect of the game if you're a raider (or do various other things, such as economy or PvP). Now that I think about it, it's probably the most important thing regardless of what you do in the game. Raid? Need a healthy raiding population. PvP? Need a server with RBG groups. Roleplay? There are servers for that, too.

It does indeed suck being on a dead server because you really can't get anything done. I used to play on low pop servers because they were relaxing back in TBC/WoTLK, but back then "low pop" was designated the same as "medium" is today. Currently I wouldn't touch any server that doesn't say "High" in the server browser, and even those - aside from the big few like Illidan - are barely what "medium" was years ago.

At least Blizzard finally acknowledged the problem and consolidated from 200 something servers down to 20 something (all these connected realms are actually the servers being moved to the same hardware; Blizzard is getting rid of 90% of their physical servers). That should help a lot in WoD.

I think the percentage of people playing actively in raiding guilds also has declined a lot since introduction of LFR. Many only do LFR or some of the casual timewasting stuff like achievements or pets or w/e people do. What I mean is even if the overall population of a server did not decline much, the number of people available to you to raid with in guilds did decline.


It just points to the fact that a significant number of people joined guilds just to raid, but now they don't need to. Oqueue means you can get anything bar heroic by yourself, the only real reason to be in a guild was the guild level benefits. Personally, I just like having some guys to log on and talk to in the evenings and raid with a couple times a week for fun. WoD looks like it will reinvigorate raiding guilds by removing the hard 10/25 man caps on non-mythic content and allowing people to field their entire roster rather than having people sit out and become disillusioned.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 18 2014 19:49 GMT
#2568
On August 19 2014 04:36 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 04:28 Redox wrote:
On August 19 2014 04:13 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 03:47 Redox wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:38 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:14 Requizen wrote:
How are LFRs? I quit during Cata and was in a raiding guild during that time, so I never did any then. Nowadays, I don't have nearly as much free time as I did back then, but still want to see content. Are the people in LFRs really bad? Is the content way too easy and boring? I still want a challenge but I don't know if I have 3 nights a week to raid + prep time anymore.


It's a huge misconception that challenging content requires a lot of time and effort. LFR is definitely not the challenge you're looking for, and you should be able to find a guild that does Heroic raiding and raids less than 4-5 hours a week. It takes about an hour and a half to clear a raid instance once you have it on farm, and since tiers these days only have one raid instead of 2-3 like they used to, that's about two hours a week including prep time.

Unless you're looking for a top 3 server guild then there's really no reason to raid more than two nights (four hours) a week. You will honestly spend longer in LFR because of all the "special" players in there (and more often than not one or both tanks seem to be, which further complicates the run). I think you should have no trouble finding a real 10m guild that only raids one or two nights a week.

Probably depends on the server you are on. I started again playing a little of WoW when patch 5.4 was released. But all I ever did was LFR raids. Could not get into non-LFR raids because equipment too bad (they expected you to have equip from SoG normal to do SoG normal). Could not get into a guild because only LFR equip and limited time. Stopped playing then.

Surely its easier if you know people on the server. But if you dont know anyone because of long absence it can be quite annoying.


Server is probably the single most important aspect of the game if you're a raider (or do various other things, such as economy or PvP). Now that I think about it, it's probably the most important thing regardless of what you do in the game. Raid? Need a healthy raiding population. PvP? Need a server with RBG groups. Roleplay? There are servers for that, too.

It does indeed suck being on a dead server because you really can't get anything done. I used to play on low pop servers because they were relaxing back in TBC/WoTLK, but back then "low pop" was designated the same as "medium" is today. Currently I wouldn't touch any server that doesn't say "High" in the server browser, and even those - aside from the big few like Illidan - are barely what "medium" was years ago.

At least Blizzard finally acknowledged the problem and consolidated from 200 something servers down to 20 something (all these connected realms are actually the servers being moved to the same hardware; Blizzard is getting rid of 90% of their physical servers). That should help a lot in WoD.

I think the percentage of people playing actively in raiding guilds also has declined a lot since introduction of LFR. Many only do LFR or some of the casual timewasting stuff like achievements or pets or w/e people do. What I mean is even if the overall population of a server did not decline much, the number of people available to you to raid with in guilds did decline.


It just points to the fact that a significant number of people joined guilds just to raid, but now they don't need to. Oqueue means you can get anything bar heroic by yourself, the only real reason to be in a guild was the guild level benefits. Personally, I just like having some guys to log on and talk to in the evenings and raid with a couple times a week for fun. WoD looks like it will reinvigorate raiding guilds by removing the hard 10/25 man caps on non-mythic content and allowing people to field their entire roster rather than having people sit out and become disillusioned.


Sometimes it's hard to even get 10 people to log on...O_O
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
August 18 2014 19:50 GMT
#2569
On August 19 2014 04:28 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 04:13 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 03:47 Redox wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:38 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:14 Requizen wrote:
How are LFRs? I quit during Cata and was in a raiding guild during that time, so I never did any then. Nowadays, I don't have nearly as much free time as I did back then, but still want to see content. Are the people in LFRs really bad? Is the content way too easy and boring? I still want a challenge but I don't know if I have 3 nights a week to raid + prep time anymore.


It's a huge misconception that challenging content requires a lot of time and effort. LFR is definitely not the challenge you're looking for, and you should be able to find a guild that does Heroic raiding and raids less than 4-5 hours a week. It takes about an hour and a half to clear a raid instance once you have it on farm, and since tiers these days only have one raid instead of 2-3 like they used to, that's about two hours a week including prep time.

Unless you're looking for a top 3 server guild then there's really no reason to raid more than two nights (four hours) a week. You will honestly spend longer in LFR because of all the "special" players in there (and more often than not one or both tanks seem to be, which further complicates the run). I think you should have no trouble finding a real 10m guild that only raids one or two nights a week.

Probably depends on the server you are on. I started again playing a little of WoW when patch 5.4 was released. But all I ever did was LFR raids. Could not get into non-LFR raids because equipment too bad (they expected you to have equip from SoG normal to do SoG normal). Could not get into a guild because only LFR equip and limited time. Stopped playing then.

Surely its easier if you know people on the server. But if you dont know anyone because of long absence it can be quite annoying.


Server is probably the single most important aspect of the game if you're a raider (or do various other things, such as economy or PvP). Now that I think about it, it's probably the most important thing regardless of what you do in the game. Raid? Need a healthy raiding population. PvP? Need a server with RBG groups. Roleplay? There are servers for that, too.

It does indeed suck being on a dead server because you really can't get anything done. I used to play on low pop servers because they were relaxing back in TBC/WoTLK, but back then "low pop" was designated the same as "medium" is today. Currently I wouldn't touch any server that doesn't say "High" in the server browser, and even those - aside from the big few like Illidan - are barely what "medium" was years ago.

At least Blizzard finally acknowledged the problem and consolidated from 200 something servers down to 20 something (all these connected realms are actually the servers being moved to the same hardware; Blizzard is getting rid of 90% of their physical servers). That should help a lot in WoD.

I think the percentage of people playing actively in raiding guilds also has declined a lot since introduction of LFR. Many only do LFR or some of the casual timewasting stuff like achievements or pets or w/e people do. What I mean is even if the overall population of a server did not decline much, the number of people available to you to raid with in guilds did decline.


MMO-C has posted some armory data a few times and basically yes, the amount of people raiding has declined rather significantly since WoTLK. Unfortunately it's no big secret that finding a stable guild can be really, really hard (and that's for 10m; goodluck if you want to do 25m) and that's the main reason why I stopped leading my own guild, too. It got to be far too much effort replacing people on a weekly basis from an ever-shrinking player pool.

The guilds on high pop servers aren't any better; you still have people quitting every week and all the drama that goes with a guild nowadays, but at least you can fill those spots easily. I was in a server first guild before I moved to the TL guild and we disbanded after going three months without being able to replace two DPS that left. We tried out about a dozen different people and none of them were good enough, and we simply ran out of people on the server. Shortly after the #2 and #4 guilds transferred for the same reason.

High pop is the ONLY way to go if you want the least-stressful playing experience.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 18 2014 19:58 GMT
#2570
On August 19 2014 04:49 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 04:36 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 19 2014 04:28 Redox wrote:
On August 19 2014 04:13 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 03:47 Redox wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:38 Serejai wrote:
On August 19 2014 02:14 Requizen wrote:
How are LFRs? I quit during Cata and was in a raiding guild during that time, so I never did any then. Nowadays, I don't have nearly as much free time as I did back then, but still want to see content. Are the people in LFRs really bad? Is the content way too easy and boring? I still want a challenge but I don't know if I have 3 nights a week to raid + prep time anymore.


It's a huge misconception that challenging content requires a lot of time and effort. LFR is definitely not the challenge you're looking for, and you should be able to find a guild that does Heroic raiding and raids less than 4-5 hours a week. It takes about an hour and a half to clear a raid instance once you have it on farm, and since tiers these days only have one raid instead of 2-3 like they used to, that's about two hours a week including prep time.

Unless you're looking for a top 3 server guild then there's really no reason to raid more than two nights (four hours) a week. You will honestly spend longer in LFR because of all the "special" players in there (and more often than not one or both tanks seem to be, which further complicates the run). I think you should have no trouble finding a real 10m guild that only raids one or two nights a week.

Probably depends on the server you are on. I started again playing a little of WoW when patch 5.4 was released. But all I ever did was LFR raids. Could not get into non-LFR raids because equipment too bad (they expected you to have equip from SoG normal to do SoG normal). Could not get into a guild because only LFR equip and limited time. Stopped playing then.

Surely its easier if you know people on the server. But if you dont know anyone because of long absence it can be quite annoying.


Server is probably the single most important aspect of the game if you're a raider (or do various other things, such as economy or PvP). Now that I think about it, it's probably the most important thing regardless of what you do in the game. Raid? Need a healthy raiding population. PvP? Need a server with RBG groups. Roleplay? There are servers for that, too.

It does indeed suck being on a dead server because you really can't get anything done. I used to play on low pop servers because they were relaxing back in TBC/WoTLK, but back then "low pop" was designated the same as "medium" is today. Currently I wouldn't touch any server that doesn't say "High" in the server browser, and even those - aside from the big few like Illidan - are barely what "medium" was years ago.

At least Blizzard finally acknowledged the problem and consolidated from 200 something servers down to 20 something (all these connected realms are actually the servers being moved to the same hardware; Blizzard is getting rid of 90% of their physical servers). That should help a lot in WoD.

I think the percentage of people playing actively in raiding guilds also has declined a lot since introduction of LFR. Many only do LFR or some of the casual timewasting stuff like achievements or pets or w/e people do. What I mean is even if the overall population of a server did not decline much, the number of people available to you to raid with in guilds did decline.


It just points to the fact that a significant number of people joined guilds just to raid, but now they don't need to. Oqueue means you can get anything bar heroic by yourself, the only real reason to be in a guild was the guild level benefits. Personally, I just like having some guys to log on and talk to in the evenings and raid with a couple times a week for fun. WoD looks like it will reinvigorate raiding guilds by removing the hard 10/25 man caps on non-mythic content and allowing people to field their entire roster rather than having people sit out and become disillusioned.


Sometimes it's hard to even get 10 people to log on...O_O


If you have a small guild, yes. Knowing that you will have a spot is better incentive to log on.
ViperPL
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-18 20:09:14
August 18 2014 20:08 GMT
#2571
Any plans for a serious TL guild for WoD on EU? And by serious I mean people actually showing up to the raids on a regular basis.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
August 18 2014 20:35 GMT
#2572
To be perfectly honest there have been, what, half a dozen TL guilds over the years? Every single one has fallen apart due to attendance/reliability issues. And, speaking from my experience with numerous other TL communities... if it's not Starcraft (or I guess now Dota 2 and Hearthstone) people on here are flaky as shit.

I would personally look for a non-TL guild and simply add TLers via friends list to run flex and whatnot with. Best of both worlds I think.
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Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-18 21:08:48
August 18 2014 21:07 GMT
#2573
I would agree with this wholeheartedly. The other problem is recruitment, where people who have no ties to TL have no attachment to the "name," so it just becomes another guild that has no achievements to speak of (outside of achievements of individual members, which carry far less cachet). Many quality raiders when looking for new guilds also seem to prioritize stability; and, as Serejai pointed out, while TL itself has been around for a long time, its WoW guilds haven't exactly had a great track record. Add in the fact that most people who decide to join a TL-focused endeavor probably had no intentions on recruitment of non-TL'ers to begin with, and the problems exacerbate and manifest in a variety of negative ways.

All in all, it's not worth the effort to form a "serious" TL-focused raiding guild. Maybe it's slightly different at the beginning of an expansion, where it's easier to gather momentum, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 18 2014 21:45 GMT
#2574
Hrmmm I was leveling a Druid a while ago before I quit (for probably the 8-9th time), but now I am thinking about resubbing to level it to 90 before WoD. Doesn't seem right to boost.

Whyyyy is this happenningg to meee???
DreamR
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United Kingdom168 Posts
August 18 2014 21:46 GMT
#2575
On August 19 2014 06:45 Popkiller wrote:
Hrmmm I was leveling a Druid a while ago before I quit (for probably the 8-9th time), but now I am thinking about resubbing to level it to 90 before WoD. Doesn't seem right to boost.

Whyyyy is this happenningg to meee???

nothing is happening to you?
and why doesnt it seem right?
T_T
This game saved me from ending it.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22103 Posts
August 18 2014 21:47 GMT
#2576
On August 19 2014 06:45 Popkiller wrote:
Hrmmm I was leveling a Druid a while ago before I quit (for probably the 8-9th time), but now I am thinking about resubbing to level it to 90 before WoD. Doesn't seem right to boost.

Whyyyy is this happenningg to meee???

Because despite the hate for WoW, and parts of it is deserved, it is still the best package on the MMO market.
Yes other games do bits of it better but looking at the whole game it is still the most rounded package for a lot of people.
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 18 2014 21:48 GMT
#2577
On August 19 2014 06:46 DreamR wrote:
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On August 19 2014 06:45 Popkiller wrote:
Hrmmm I was leveling a Druid a while ago before I quit (for probably the 8-9th time), but now I am thinking about resubbing to level it to 90 before WoD. Doesn't seem right to boost.

Whyyyy is this happenningg to meee???

nothing is happening to you?
and why doesnt it seem right?
T_T


I'm getting sucked back in. It's cool, I knew I'd probably buy WoD anyway. Gotta be around for the 10th Anniversary.

And I'd rather level the character and learn it. I'm sure they have tons of learn-your-new-90 stuff built in, but I dunno. Old-fashioned I guess.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
August 18 2014 21:49 GMT
#2578
Even near the end of the latest NA guild I do recall we had to find a non-TL tank and maybe a DPS or two? There were plenty of people interested in a TL guild, and I believe we had close to 100 players in the roster... but I'd say about 75% of those had been offline for well over a month and 15% didn't want to raid. That left about 10% of us that were actually active (which, as I stated earlier, meant we couldn't even field a 10m roster without 2-3 pugs).

And keep in mind this is all less than three months after the guild formed in the first place; we're not talking years here, but months/weeks (and even days for some members) before people disappeared. Something more viable would be a TL PvP group, or Challenge Mode group; or a flex group as I mentioned earlier (or normal? can that be done cross realm in WoD?).
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Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 18 2014 21:58 GMT
#2579
On August 19 2014 06:49 Serejai wrote:
Something more viable would be a TL PvP group, or Challenge Mode group; or a flex group as I mentioned earlier (or normal? can that be done cross realm in WoD?).


I think all of the "flexible" raids can be done cross-realm; only mythic is realm-only for obvious reasons (achievements, etc.).

If only something like Wildstar's Circle system existed...would be much easier than adding everyone's battle tags.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 19 2014 02:04 GMT
#2580
On August 19 2014 06:49 Serejai wrote:
Even near the end of the latest NA guild I do recall we had to find a non-TL tank and maybe a DPS or two? There were plenty of people interested in a TL guild, and I believe we had close to 100 players in the roster... but I'd say about 75% of those had been offline for well over a month and 15% didn't want to raid. That left about 10% of us that were actually active (which, as I stated earlier, meant we couldn't even field a 10m roster without 2-3 pugs).

And keep in mind this is all less than three months after the guild formed in the first place; we're not talking years here, but months/weeks (and even days for some members) before people disappeared. Something more viable would be a TL PvP group, or Challenge Mode group; or a flex group as I mentioned earlier (or normal? can that be done cross realm in WoD?).


We were always hurting for 1-2 dps, sometimes a tank. We ended up adding a couple DPS to the guild that were regulars in our pug slots, then others stopped showing up/left. Last couple weeks we just didn't raid because we didn't want to pug half.

You were never on tho >

Anyway, yeah, Heroic and below modes can be done xserver, I'd have no problem adding everyone from TL and xrealm raiding with them, at least as long as we don't have too many (opposite problem, I know) because this new shit laptop seems to have a lot of trouble in large groups.
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