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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 00:15:47
May 12 2014 00:15 GMT
#221
Hmm, try for a resend again in 30 minutes if you haven't gotten something.

llamaserver has been running into capacity issues with the high number of Dom games that people are starting to host, specifically the email service.

It should send eventually if you don't get something.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 12 2014 00:20 GMT
#222
On May 12 2014 08:54 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 08:46 KillerSOS wrote:
My prophet died and I am not getting the ability to get another one... what to do?

After 6 (ish?) months you can name a new one

I didn't receive the email with the new turn yet, asked for a resend but still nothing. Should I be worried or will I eventually get it in time?


Score graphs are starting to show how far behind I'm getting ^_^
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 12 2014 00:29 GMT
#223
Find yourself some land to connect you to the other lakes.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Ultraliskhero
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 01:40:14
May 12 2014 01:10 GMT
#224
wow does the battle fright affliction do more than just -5 morale?

I had a guy with battle fright, and throughout a whole fight, he was just chilling in the back, moving to the EXACT same squares as my commanders with stay behind troops command, even tho this infantry guy had attack closest command.

Also, seems like alot happened last turn, just waiting for Scip to do his thing.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 11:07:34
May 12 2014 03:32 GMT
#225
Well I was intrigued by the op and I've decided to try this game out. It is quite overwhelming at the beginning to try and learn everything. There is so much to learn and it is all very confusing. I've found that watching some youtube videos of actual gameplay has helped me a bit and reading guides has helped but I still feel pretty clueless. I've been playing some games versus normal AI (though I should probably up the difficulty because normal AI is seeming pretty shitty) and in the early game I do fine but the later the game goes the more clueless I feel. Ive been doing early age (for some reason I thought it would be easiest but with the role magic seems to play I might have been wrong b/c all the magic in this game is going to take forever to learn) Ulm (for the most part they seem pretty straightforward). All I've done are just mass shield maidens and battle maidens (the shortbow ladies) which seem to do ok early on, but now that I am pretty far into the game I tried to sack a fort and lost my entire army (the shield maidens got stuck in the stupid choke point so out of my like 300 maybe 20 would fight at a time) and the enemy was casting some crazy shit at me killing everything tt. I had some mages that I put earth boots on (I leveled construction early to see what sort of magic items I can get) that gave them +2 in earth magic and then I made them cast blade wind, which worked pretty well vs some armies but didnt do anything vs others (from what I understand it will wreck unarmored stuff but vs armor not so much). Maybe I should have focused on getting mages out that can cast magma eruption.

Anyways I'm just rambling at this point. In general what should I try to transition into as EA Ulm.

EDIT:
More questions but don't want to double post :D

Trying out a strategy with EA Caelum (yes I know op said avoid this nation if you are new, but I tried them anyways ^^) because it sounded like fun but have some questions. For this strat I am supposed to use the conjuration spell summon yazatas fairly early to pair with my eagle kings, but the guide im reading (EA Caelum Guide) says to only get conj1 and then alch gems to get it, this part confused me... how do I get a conj5 spell with only researching it to 1? I tried with my enchantress to alch me a lot of astral pearls since summon yazatas takes 2 astral but that didnt work :/. Any help is appreciated!

EDIT2:
It looks like that caelum guide is outdated anyways so that probably explains why I can't follow it xD.
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
May 12 2014 11:22 GMT
#226
https://www.youtube.com/user/Maerlande2/videos - This guy has a bunch of vids on Dom (also he's a vet, so he knows what he's doing ) including some on designing pretenders and what not, might give some useful overall impressions.
knuckle
Icapica
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland206 Posts
May 12 2014 12:21 GMT
#227
This is perhaps a stupid question, but could someone explain a newbie what the terms thug and thugging mean? There's so much weird terminology used when people talk about this game and I haven't been able to find any list of explanations.
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
May 12 2014 13:54 GMT
#228
A thug is a commander kitted out to (for example) take provinces with little defense. Usually a decent but cheap guy with a frost/fire brand and a crowd-control shield or something slapped on, or maybe like a cheap mage that can effectively self-buff.
The keyword here is cost effectiveness, you don't want your fully kitted out deathmachine spending his time hopping from province to province killing a bunch of PD.
Thugs can also be used to gangbang SC's with the right equipment etc.
The "recipes" for thugs are numerous, see if you can come up with something that works .
knuckle
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 12 2014 16:43 GMT
#229
1) Mages are wonderful and are the primary means to victory (well, not mages specifically, but magic of all varieties). Always get them when possible and research when possible.

2) Baalz is a vet player known for writing off-the-wall guides. That one in particular is completely outdated however, as he's writing from a Dom3, CBM (a community balance mode) perspective. CBM changed a number of things with the Dom3 base game, Yazatas being research 1-2 being one of them. Overall, I'd be very careful when looking at old Dom3, nation specific guides for that reason. Most of the old Dom3 guides on thugging, communions, etc, are still valid with the critical exception of reverse/linebacker communions no longer being possible (good riddance too as it made all the nations with Astral/Blood access MONSTERS in battlefield casting: you could buff up all slaves to cast Gifts from Heavens, and consistently reinvig the fatigue down for the first 5 turns if you had blood; it was why Acroscephale was a TOP tier nation for a long time).

3) EA Caelum is generally not recommended, but if you want to try it, just go for the usual Storm with Eagle King into Summon Airpower-Thunderstrikes with Caelian Seraphs. You can do other things with Harab Seraphs, but stick with the basics. EA and LA Caelum are pretty damn weak overall in my opinion (LA moreso), with MA being the "strongest" Caelum simply due to magic access. But again, utilizing them and circumventing the frankly crap troops (to make use of MM3 flying) is difficult and requires a good bit of understanding of the magic system, and major research goals.

4) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41970
Baalz's thugging guide (which is still completely applicable).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 12 2014 19:21 GMT
#230
On May 12 2014 20:22 HeatEXTEND wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Maerlande2/videos - This guy has a bunch of vids on Dom (also he's a vet, so he knows what he's doing ) including some on designing pretenders and what not, might give some useful overall impressions.


This is kinda what I've been looking for.

Thanks!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 12 2014 20:20 GMT
#231
Cmon Capricis, only 4 hours left
Don't miss a turn please t.t
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Capresis
Profile Joined September 2008
United States518 Posts
May 12 2014 21:01 GMT
#232
Don't worry, I'm going!

But what do I do now, lol. I've expanded mostly to everyone else's borders and I'm terrible at diplomacy.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 13 2014 00:08 GMT
#233
On May 13 2014 06:01 Capricis wrote:
Don't worry, I'm going!

But what do I do now, lol. I've expanded mostly to everyone else's borders and I'm terrible at diplomacy.

Figure out who's an easy target with scouts (seriously, indie scout provinces are godsends), then coordinate an attack.

Alternately, consolidate and get extra forts up. Site search and work to maximize your resources as you hit your major research goals.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 13 2014 01:47 GMT
#234
I think I'm about to hit a brick wall with what I can learn with this game lol. My SP player games are going well though! I'll be prepared for the next game.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
May 13 2014 02:37 GMT
#235
What does forge bonus do (dwarven hammer) and can you stack 2 of them on a single unit?
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 13 2014 02:57 GMT
#236
1) Forge bonus is a flat -X gems on any item you forge. They do not stack if you have the same item, but will with different forge bonuses. For instance, Ulmish smiths with a Dwarven Hammer only pay 1 gem for 5 gem items, or 6 gems for a 10 gem item, as they have an innate -2 forge bonus. A Vanjarl with two hammers can still only make quills for 3 gems, not 1.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
May 13 2014 07:27 GMT
#237
Has anyone purchased the game through steam. Is there an easy way to get multiplayer games through steam or? I will probably purchase this on steam within the next few days. Since we have a lot of new players here do you guys want to do something like a 4v4 disciple game with the experienced players on each team being the pretender and then fill the disciple slots with us newbies? :D. Ill be able to play MP in 2-3 days I guess.
Icapica
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland206 Posts
May 13 2014 10:35 GMT
#238
I bought the game from steam a short while ago but haven't tried multiplayer yet. I'd be interested in a game, but honestly a normal free-for-all sounds much more interesting than a game with just two teams. I'd probably get totally crushed by a better player, but that's how it goes often in Starcraft too. It's a lesson.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 13 2014 12:14 GMT
#239
Damn, I've made so many mistakes that just looking at the game makes me sick hahaha
I just hope it's the same for everyone so I am not at a disadvantage
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 13 2014 18:04 GMT
#240
On May 13 2014 16:27 Kickstart wrote:
Has anyone purchased the game through steam. Is there an easy way to get multiplayer games through steam or? I will probably purchase this on steam within the next few days. Since we have a lot of new players here do you guys want to do something like a 4v4 disciple game with the experienced players on each team being the pretender and then fill the disciple slots with us newbies? :D. Ill be able to play MP in 2-3 days I guess.


I have it on steam as well. There isn't an easy way to do MP, you pretty much have to do it over llamaserver.
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