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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 14 2014 03:45 GMT
#241
You can also run it through your own server as long as you can set it up, but yes, llamaserver is most convenient (if you want to set up your own, you can ask him for the basic coding and setup I believe). There's also Gandalf_Parker's server, which I currently remember the name of, and some communities like SomethingAwful have private servers.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 14 2014 18:57 GMT
#242
Think I might set myself to AI in this game. My pretender has 1 dominion, no magic and all sorts of wacky stats, I didn't even cap the points out lol. I can't even keep dominion in the provs right next to my capital

If people want me to continue to play I will, but it's an exercise in futility
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 14 2014 22:52 GMT
#243
Feel free to set it to AI, as I said. Whenever you feel the use of continued play is minimal.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Icapica
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland206 Posts
May 15 2014 23:22 GMT
#244
Any updates to the multiplayer game? I enjoyed reading them.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
May 15 2014 23:39 GMT
#245
call to the nations to rise against the tyranny of ulm and abysia, i gonna fight, but if you don't intervene then will be too late for the rest of nations
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
May 16 2014 03:26 GMT
#246
Agartha trying to shift the focus away from Cealum ? The Abysian hordes just got a little more foamy at the mouths still
knuckle
Ultraliskhero
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
May 16 2014 04:10 GMT
#247
Scip! bring back the turn recaps!

no pressure if you're busy tho.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 16 2014 05:31 GMT
#248
Have to say Abysia, your dom score is so amazingly low O_o. Are you at dom 1-4 or something? That's a very risky strat in MP.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
May 16 2014 12:40 GMT
#249
My dom is actually quite a bit higher but I got hit with a total of -11 candles events so far. Teaches me for getting misfortune I guess ;_; .
knuckle
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-16 14:43:57
May 16 2014 14:16 GMT
#250
This game is freakin' awesome haha. Thanks for putting up the thread so I can discover it.

Are there like add-on factions that you can download somewhere? I love how there are so many different units in the game, but I want more!!! edit - i found the mods, but how do i know i'm not adding a bunch of imba units to the game?

For now I'm just playing a randomish game against a bunch of AIs. Do you guys have any recommendations for fun and/or challenging game modes or maps? The reason multiplayer doesn't appeal to me is I don't really like the idea of playing a turn a day; I usually do marathon sessions and take entire days off in between.

Question about research. Do you folks have some commanders whose only purpose is to sit back and research? Another about expanding. Is it better to try and grab as much land as possible in general, or better to do a slow play where you build up forts and temples and labs or whatever before grabbing more land? Is it faction dependant? I have a lot to learn with this game, but the tutorial and guide were really helpful. Lion King FTW! I was expecting there to be a hero named Rafiki.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 16 2014 16:14 GMT
#251
For mods, you are able to enable and disable them at a whim, so if you feel they're "imba", then you can turn them off.

If you're interested in marathon sessions, look for a blitz game, which is Dom games played with 5-15m turn limits. You can usually get a Dom game finished in 3-4 sessions or so.

As for research, yes. You generally have a set of commanders dedicated to magic research. In fact, I would recruit solely researchers for a long time, because ramping up research to hit some major midgame spells (for instance Thunderstrike/Storm, or Flaming Arrows, or Mother Oak) is important.

In terms of a "lab rat", you're looking at the commanders with the highest research/gold (and research/upkeep) efficiency (upkeep being halved for sacred units), which will usually be 1 path mages. Varies from nation to nation, however, and some nations, Vanheim and Helheim in particular, now rush Const-2 for Quills to supplement their otherwise abysmal research.

As for expansion: it depends :D. Against AI expanding as much as possible and building forts is fine. You generally want to hit a benchmark of ~12-14 provinces and have at least 1 fort under construction/finished by Year 1. Now, whether you continue expanding depends on defensible borders, and the nature of the nation you're playing. If you're a big early or early-mid game power like, say, EA/MA Ulm, you should be pushing your advantage constantly: in an intermediate or above skill level game, if you haven't capped at least one enemy capital by year 2-3, you've lost as MA Ulm, because they'll fall behind in the magic race naturally. On the flipside, if you're playing, say, LA Bogarus, you're happy to turtle up after you've got enough of an expansion going so you can hit your key magic breakpoints, like Flaming Arrows or communion up alterations/enchantments (though the kinds of reverse communions that LA Bogarus benefited from in Dom3 have been removed [so no massive evocation spam], they're still a magic powerhouse with fantastic research potential and efficiency, and wide crosspaths/capabilities, esp in the LA]).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 17 2014 07:54 GMT
#252
I have an abundance of death gems, PM me if anyone wants
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 08:29:17
May 17 2014 08:28 GMT
#253
Your giants seem to have gotten lost scip. They probably want to turn around very soon.

Or your windshields shall face our fury.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 09:37:52
May 17 2014 09:21 GMT
#254
Dude there was a 220 army of Agartha and 90 army of Abysia right next to my poor poor Grohl-tan
so I made a run for it
sorry for not warning in advance (I didn't think you'd agree to it anyway lol)
it looks like they rapped each other tho LOL no it doesn't, but I don't see where the Agarthan army went. Maybe they just turned around
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 10:37:17
May 17 2014 10:35 GMT
#255
On May 17 2014 18:21 Scip wrote:
Dude there was a 220 army of Agartha and 90 army of Abysia right next to my poor poor Grohl-tan
so I made a run for it
sorry for not warning in advance (I didn't think you'd agree to it anyway lol)
it looks like they rapped each other tho LOL no it doesn't, but I don't see where the Agarthan army went. Maybe they just turned around

I am a perfectly reasonable servant of the law. If you had notified me earlier, I would've been willing to agree to it, and at the very least not take it as an act of war.

Now however, if you wish to disengage from this evolving into a war, we must discuss compensation for the damages caused, and that you are held liable.

The income lost plus the cost of the provincial defense, with an additional fine for the commanders and troops it will divert to reclaim the province, will be necessary and seems perfectly reasonable to me. The damages a war will cause for you are quite...severe.

They were most likely diverting to fight off the Ulmish onslaught.


I warned ya guys.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 17 2014 12:08 GMT
#256
Damn, shoulda known that the legendary Attorney at Law would pursue the case
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-17 12:25:44
May 17 2014 12:25 GMT
#257
Trust me when I say this, but I'm well prepared for an attack by frost giants. Your pretender won't last long I'm afraid.

To calc it all out, the PD was set at 10 as you can tell via batrep, so that's 55 gold. The province itself was producing 20 gold/turn.

So we're looking at a minimum of 75 gold, +20 for each additional turn you hold it, plus a fair compensation for the opportunity cost of retaking it.

If you leave it undefended and allow me to take it this turn, we can say just 50 gold, for a total of 125 gold. Does that sound like a fair price for peace?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
May 17 2014 12:37 GMT
#258
you've got 125 gold in your bank acc next turn
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
May 17 2014 15:12 GMT
#259
On May 17 2014 18:21 Scip wrote:
Dude there was a 220 army of Agartha and 90 army of Abysia right next to my poor poor Grohl-tan
so I made a run for it
sorry for not warning in advance (I didn't think you'd agree to it anyway lol)
it looks like they rapped each other tho LOL no it doesn't, but I don't see where the Agarthan army went. Maybe they just turned around


i'm being attacked by by the evil axis, ulm and abyssia.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
May 17 2014 15:36 GMT
#260
On May 18 2014 00:12 xuanzue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2014 18:21 Scip wrote:
Dude there was a 220 army of Agartha and 90 army of Abysia right next to my poor poor Grohl-tan
so I made a run for it
sorry for not warning in advance (I didn't think you'd agree to it anyway lol)
it looks like they rapped each other tho LOL no it doesn't, but I don't see where the Agarthan army went. Maybe they just turned around


i'm being attacked by by the evil axis, ulm and abyssia.


What good are a pile of sacreds if you can't shove 'm around a bit .
knuckle
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