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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 24 2013 03:14 GMT
#321
European retailers warned earlier this month that PlayStation 4 preorders placed after August 6 couldn't be guaranteed for launch day. U.K.-based Shopto said Sony had put the word out to all European retailers that inventory couldn't be guaranteed, and that late preorders would be reliant on cancellations for launch day fulfillment and would otherwise have to wait.

The reason, according to Sony U.K. Managing Director Fergal Gara, is simply that preorders are way beyond anything Sony has seen before. "The problem with pre-orders, which is a good problem to have, is that they're very, very high. Higher than we've ever seen in 20 years in this business," he told Official PlayStation Magazine. "As an ex-retailer myself I understand this at least as well as anyone else: We need to help retailers manage the expectations of their customers and not let them down."

Thus, Sony's recommendation to retailers that preorders made after August 5 not be guaranteed for launch day. "We are going to be looking at a sell-out situation and chasing demand, it's a problem, it's kind of a good problem to have, but it is a problem and we're trying to manage that as responsibly as we possibly can," Gara said.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 24 2013 03:43 GMT
#322
Didn't expect ps4 to be all that available only a few places where amd spins silicon, and only limited number of silicon slabs to buy up with only a few months of build up and a world release ps4 is the choice system for resellers on ebay compared to the limited release of the xbox1.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
August 24 2013 04:36 GMT
#323
I'm one of those that really dont care about not getting it on release even though I wouldn't mind. I mean... a console is a matter of 5 to 10 years. Waiting a couple of months before getting it, no problem.
Also... I'll let the preorders deal with the possibility of technical failures :/
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 24 2013 04:50 GMT
#324
Preordering is a great way to make money though. Preorder a console, sell it on ebay for more than you paid because the supply is limited.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 24 2013 18:52 GMT
#325
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
August 24 2013 20:18 GMT
#326
On August 24 2013 13:50 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Preordering is a great way to make money though. Preorder a console, sell it on ebay for more than you paid because the supply is limited.


I preordered both the X-1 and the PS4 awhile ago. While I don't intend to resell them, if there is a 50% markup over retail, I would so sell mine. If it's just 10-20% markup, I wouldn't.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 20:30:55
August 24 2013 20:29 GMT
#327
On August 25 2013 05:18 woody60707 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 13:50 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Preordering is a great way to make money though. Preorder a console, sell it on ebay for more than you paid because the supply is limited.


I preordered both the X-1 and the PS4 awhile ago. While I don't intend to resell them, if there is a 50% markup over retail, I would so sell mine. If it's just 10-20% markup, I wouldn't.

You'd need at least a 400 dollar margin over the initial sale for it to be that worth it unless you really didn't want the system else you're making chump change due to fees in shipping etc which would probably eat up 100 of that. That being said i think ps3 and xbox 360's had some selling for over 1k on ebay for the first like 2 weeks of release slowly falling down to like 600 700. Really gonna get some serious exploiters out there buying up as many as they can for quick turn around.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
August 24 2013 20:41 GMT
#328
You can usually sell locally and skip the shipping fees. Also, $100 seems a lot for shipping. If it is 20lb, 20"x20"x10" it would cost $24.11 to ship UPS ground from Houston TX to Miami FL.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 24 2013 20:55 GMT
#329
On August 25 2013 05:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
You can usually sell locally and skip the shipping fees. Also, $100 seems a lot for shipping. If it is 20lb, 20"x20"x10" it would cost $24.11 to ship UPS ground from Houston TX to Miami FL.

ebay gets a cut of final sale plus a ton of small fees for little things to get it listed fyi and something of ps4/xbox1 size and weight may or may not ship for free depending on where and who you use but mostly because you're selling to people with no patience so they want next day, ofc you could list it as shipping no included but still i wouldn't bother selling my next gen console unless i made and easy 300+ on the deal else i rather just keep it. I'd sell it for much smaller profit margins if all i wanted to do was resell consoles.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 19:53:12
August 25 2013 19:52 GMT
#330
PS eye can be used as a face-cam:



Additionally, we added new features that many PlayStation gamers have requested. You will now be able to listen to music in the background while playing games and access Music Unlimited controls on the fly without completely exiting game play or other apps. Simply press and hold the “PS” button on the DUALSHOCK 4 to access a pop up menu that will enable you to quickly pause or skip tracks, and adjust the volume.


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/08/20/music-unlimited-gets-amplified-on-ps4/

Mark Cerny interview:

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/08/23/mark-cerny-on-the-future-of-ps4-and-ps-vita-gamescom
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 25 2013 20:09 GMT
#331
On August 25 2013 05:55 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 05:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
You can usually sell locally and skip the shipping fees. Also, $100 seems a lot for shipping. If it is 20lb, 20"x20"x10" it would cost $24.11 to ship UPS ground from Houston TX to Miami FL.

ebay gets a cut of final sale plus a ton of small fees for little things to get it listed fyi and something of ps4/xbox1 size and weight may or may not ship for free depending on where and who you use but mostly because you're selling to people with no patience so they want next day, ofc you could list it as shipping no included but still i wouldn't bother selling my next gen console unless i made and easy 300+ on the deal else i rather just keep it. I'd sell it for much smaller profit margins if all i wanted to do was resell consoles.



You're better off doing Craigslist, you could easily sell a PS4 for about $600 on launch.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 25 2013 20:48 GMT
#332
I hope that music feature extends to files on the hdd/network rather than just their music service
starleague forever
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
August 25 2013 22:22 GMT
#333
On August 26 2013 05:09 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 05:55 semantics wrote:
On August 25 2013 05:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
You can usually sell locally and skip the shipping fees. Also, $100 seems a lot for shipping. If it is 20lb, 20"x20"x10" it would cost $24.11 to ship UPS ground from Houston TX to Miami FL.

ebay gets a cut of final sale plus a ton of small fees for little things to get it listed fyi and something of ps4/xbox1 size and weight may or may not ship for free depending on where and who you use but mostly because you're selling to people with no patience so they want next day, ofc you could list it as shipping no included but still i wouldn't bother selling my next gen console unless i made and easy 300+ on the deal else i rather just keep it. I'd sell it for much smaller profit margins if all i wanted to do was resell consoles.



You're better off doing Craigslist, you could easily sell a PS4 for about $600 on launch.


Could probably sell it the second you walk out of the gamestop.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 22:37:26
August 25 2013 22:32 GMT
#334
On August 26 2013 07:22 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 05:09 superstartran wrote:
On August 25 2013 05:55 semantics wrote:
On August 25 2013 05:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
You can usually sell locally and skip the shipping fees. Also, $100 seems a lot for shipping. If it is 20lb, 20"x20"x10" it would cost $24.11 to ship UPS ground from Houston TX to Miami FL.

ebay gets a cut of final sale plus a ton of small fees for little things to get it listed fyi and something of ps4/xbox1 size and weight may or may not ship for free depending on where and who you use but mostly because you're selling to people with no patience so they want next day, ofc you could list it as shipping no included but still i wouldn't bother selling my next gen console unless i made and easy 300+ on the deal else i rather just keep it. I'd sell it for much smaller profit margins if all i wanted to do was resell consoles.



You're better off doing Craigslist, you could easily sell a PS4 for about $600 on launch.


Could probably sell it the second you walk out of the gamestop.

Not sure which one is more likely for you to end up punched in the face and someone running off with it at least with craigslist you can set up the time of day and meting point to like a parking lot bank in front of camera or something. Also 600 you're aiming too low if you get it on the first day selling 1k+ on ebay easy, ps3 and xbox 360's hit higher than that for the first two at a similar starting price range, hell they were going for 700+ well into Christmas, hopefully xbox1 because of limited release wont be like that but ps4 being world release...
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 25 2013 23:01 GMT
#335
On August 26 2013 07:22 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 05:09 superstartran wrote:
On August 25 2013 05:55 semantics wrote:
On August 25 2013 05:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
You can usually sell locally and skip the shipping fees. Also, $100 seems a lot for shipping. If it is 20lb, 20"x20"x10" it would cost $24.11 to ship UPS ground from Houston TX to Miami FL.

ebay gets a cut of final sale plus a ton of small fees for little things to get it listed fyi and something of ps4/xbox1 size and weight may or may not ship for free depending on where and who you use but mostly because you're selling to people with no patience so they want next day, ofc you could list it as shipping no included but still i wouldn't bother selling my next gen console unless i made and easy 300+ on the deal else i rather just keep it. I'd sell it for much smaller profit margins if all i wanted to do was resell consoles.



You're better off doing Craigslist, you could easily sell a PS4 for about $600 on launch.


Could probably sell it the second you walk out of the gamestop.



I'd rather be strapping going into Gamestop with a Kevlar Vest while going to get my PS4. I shit you not, I saw a guy get mugged just because he was walking out with a PS3.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 26 2013 05:10 GMT
#336
I usually hate racing games but damn:



The Sony PS Vita's exciting Remote Play feature, which will allow gamers to play their PS4 games while away from the living room, is also capable of switching on the PS4 from stand-by mode, it has emerged.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
August 26 2013 09:11 GMT
#337
All those car games look the same to me :O
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 26 2013 22:52 GMT
#338
The PlayStation 4 will receive 33 games — a mix of first and third-party, physical and digital — by the end of December. That's an impressive sum, but as we've seen from the launch of consoles past, a strong launch library is just half the equation for success; the consoles must be supported by steady releases in the months following their launch.

It's an issue suffered by recent devices that third-party studios have been slow to adopt, namely the PlayStation Vita and Wii U, which are only now starting to recover to varying degrees. If either of the next-gen consoles launching later this year suffer the same draught, it would be disastrous for their future prospects — but Sony Worldwide Studios president is confident that won't be the case for PS4 thanks to the console and company's developer-friendly approach.

Speaking to Polygon during Gamescom, Yoshida pointed to the company's recent press conference as evidence of the strength of the PS4's upcoming catalog. The indie community in particular is making a strong showing, with a ton of original games and ports that can keep the console's library growing as first-parties work on their titles. It was a similar narrative to Sony's E3 press conference, where many indie games were announced for the company's platforms.

"We started preparing for the Gamescom press conference after we finished E3, and at that point, we had no idea what we'd be able to announce from these smaller teams," Yoshida said. "It was only a couple of weeks ago that I was informed by our third party teams that this was the lineup of games we had prepared. I was like, 'Oh! That's amazing.'"

Those titles aren't just catalog filler, though. Everyone has a chance to create a console's killer app, Yoshida said; even a small team with a handful of employees and meager budget.

"I think it's fair to say that every game has a chance once it's released and more people have a chance to play it," Yoshida said.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
August 26 2013 23:24 GMT
#339
if we're talking about games that will sell a console, then no, actually, most of those ARE just fillers.

AC, battlefield, cod, all the sports games, just "more of the same", if even with a bit better graphics. all multiplatform, so not really a system seller. killzone, again while pretty, was never really a killer app. as what happened with PS3, people will buy killzone because they have a ps4, not necessarily buy a ps4 for killzone.

if anything i think watch dogs will sell a lot, and be the most interesting game at release (again, even if multiplatform).

basically what im saying is that theres really not much incentive to buy a ps4 at launch. can wait a couple months for sure. games will probably have dropped in price too, if not just get them used for cheap.
starleague forever
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 27 2013 06:00 GMT
#340
Audio party chat will work between the PS4 and PS Vita, according to a recent tweet from Shuhei Yoshida, President of Sony Worldwide Studios. We've inquired with Sony PR for further details.

Cross-game online chat has been available on PS Vita since its launch, but the feature never made it to the PlayStation 3. With the launch of the PlayStation 4, which also supports cross-game chat, we can all finally talk to each other no matter what we're playing. But can we, you know, communicate?


Source

Brand Guidelines Doc leaked:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586086

First official racing wheel announced:

http://www.teamvvv.com/en/news/comments/First-official-PS4-racing-wheel-announced-the-Thrustmaster-T80-DriveClub-Edition
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