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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
June 09 2013 13:45 GMT
#81
On June 09 2013 21:46 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 21:43 pokerface wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:31 krutopatkin wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:27 pokerface wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:01 krutopatkin wrote:
Dont't play on Vanilla WoW servers. I've played nearly 3 years on ~10 different vanilla servers (including feenix, vanillagaming) and they are all either bugged or underpopulated.

Seriously, don't play on feenix, it is mindblowingly bad.

The best Vanilla server out there atm script wise is probably http://www.twinstar.cz/?lang=en, but last time I checked it was pretty dead sadly. Their tbc server is pretty good aswell (and not dead), but sadly mainly czech speaking


I wonder what makes u say that.
Right now the servers are being moved (got Ddosed or something),therefore we experience a lot of laggs and dc.Apart from that,there is nothing wrong with it.


~30 days played time on feenix makes me say that. r14 for dozens of people back when the honor system was broken makes me say that. totally broken fury warrior makes me say that. not a single working instance working properly makes me say that.

Have u even checked whats happening on the ED feenix server latley? Im guessing not.
I donno,i shouldnt even argue,if u dont want to play then dont do it.Its just that what ur saying dosnt even make sense ^^



uhm a friend of mine had a level 60 there ~4 months ago and according to him you couldn't even run scholo without a warlock due to script bugs, also headmaster did nothing but casting arcane missiles.


You are probably right, but at this point i haven't experienced that, and playing on a x1 server it will take me long enough to find out what you are speaking about. Also you have to take into account that the emerald dream is a fairly "new" server when you are speaking about the past, like r14, etc...

On other note how many people do we have here that are trying it out ? What faction/level ? Would be nice to find some

I will start playing more intensively next weekend probably, since i got lot of work to do this week. I am planning on playing in the horde a mage, but if there is a good amount of TL'ers on the alliance on ED i would think about rolling there (even if i can't play my beloved undead :d).
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
June 09 2013 13:54 GMT
#82
On June 09 2013 22:45 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 21:46 krutopatkin wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:43 pokerface wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:31 krutopatkin wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:27 pokerface wrote:
On June 09 2013 21:01 krutopatkin wrote:
Dont't play on Vanilla WoW servers. I've played nearly 3 years on ~10 different vanilla servers (including feenix, vanillagaming) and they are all either bugged or underpopulated.

Seriously, don't play on feenix, it is mindblowingly bad.

The best Vanilla server out there atm script wise is probably http://www.twinstar.cz/?lang=en, but last time I checked it was pretty dead sadly. Their tbc server is pretty good aswell (and not dead), but sadly mainly czech speaking


I wonder what makes u say that.
Right now the servers are being moved (got Ddosed or something),therefore we experience a lot of laggs and dc.Apart from that,there is nothing wrong with it.


~30 days played time on feenix makes me say that. r14 for dozens of people back when the honor system was broken makes me say that. totally broken fury warrior makes me say that. not a single working instance working properly makes me say that.

Have u even checked whats happening on the ED feenix server latley? Im guessing not.
I donno,i shouldnt even argue,if u dont want to play then dont do it.Its just that what ur saying dosnt even make sense ^^



uhm a friend of mine had a level 60 there ~4 months ago and according to him you couldn't even run scholo without a warlock due to script bugs, also headmaster did nothing but casting arcane missiles.


You are probably right, but at this point i haven't experienced that, and playing on a x1 server it will take me long enough to find out what you are speaking about. Also you have to take into account that the emerald dream is a fairly "new" server when you are speaking about the past, like r14, etc...

On other note how many people do we have here that are trying it out ? What faction/level ? Would be nice to find some

I will start playing more intensively next weekend probably, since i got lot of work to do this week. I am planning on playing in the horde a mage, but if there is a good amount of TL'ers on the alliance on ED i would think about rolling there (even if i can't play my beloved undead :d).


Yep, I agree leveling is a very fun experience on feenix due to the high population, so is PvP ( If you get used to the bugs), but lategame PvE is very annoying to play
MadProbe
Profile Joined February 2012
United States269 Posts
June 09 2013 14:30 GMT
#83
aww man i had some good times playing vanilla WoW. i'm tempted to play your vanilla server, but actually i'd probably get to level 5 and then realize the game is still boring.

some1 else said it best: the game was great when WoW first came out. everything was new and mysterious. some stuff was way too hard or broken or took too much time. that's part of what made it fun.

and like the first time i flew on a gryphon, went into enemy territory, or entered an 80-man battleground... i was like "damn this is cool!". but those moments are gone now. i don't think a vanilla server will bring them back for me.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
June 09 2013 14:43 GMT
#84
On June 09 2013 23:30 MadProbe wrote:
aww man i had some good times playing vanilla WoW. i'm tempted to play your vanilla server, but actually i'd probably get to level 5 and then realize the game is still boring.

some1 else said it best: the game was great when WoW first came out. everything was new and mysterious. some stuff was way too hard or broken or took too much time. that's part of what made it fun.

and like the first time i flew on a gryphon, went into enemy territory, or entered an 80-man battleground... i was like "damn this is cool!". but those moments are gone now. i don't think a vanilla server will bring them back for me.


I don't have high hopes, but the kind of people who want to play Vanilla WoW again out of a sense of nostalgia tend to be great people, and that might make it fun again for me. The main reason I quit WoW was that the dungeon/raid finders destroyed server communities, then all my friends quit.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
June 09 2013 15:00 GMT
#85
My best memories from WoW vanilla (I stopped before TBC):

Shaman being overpowered killing everything.
Druid sucking.
40-man raid on Astranaar. Peoples levels were 16-24 so we got decimated.
Seeing people who had a mount.
Just chilling and chatting and watching the landscapes.
Discussions about whether or not add-ons should be allowed, and -
Trying to complete quests without guides or guidings or shit. You just had to find the stuff yourself or ask around in general.
The highest pvp ranked who could send messages to the whole realm.

Also that paladin feat which made it so when some enemy crit you, you would gain "a free attack". I found out you could save these up, so before I did any kind of pvp I would equip my best 2h weapon, find a neutral (whatever the fuck normal mobs were called, haha, so long ago) and let them hit me until they'd critted five times. I would use the paladin feat which gave every single attack a % of holy damage or something, and the first enemy I would run in to would be confused when my first attack hit him six times (5 free attacks + the 1 normal). FUCk that was amazing.
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
June 09 2013 15:04 GMT
#86
On June 10 2013 00:00 Testuser wrote:
Also that paladin feat which made it so when some enemy crit you, you would gain "a free attack". I found out you could save these up, so before I did any kind of pvp I would equip my best 2h weapon, find a neutral (whatever the fuck normal mobs were called, haha, so long ago) and let them hit me until they'd critted five times. I would use the paladin feat which gave every single attack a % of holy damage or something, and the first enemy I would run in to would be confused when my first attack hit him six times (5 free attacks + the 1 normal). FUCk that was amazing.

I'll just leave this here.

ledgerhs
Profile Joined September 2010
United States34 Posts
June 09 2013 17:37 GMT
#87
I loved the leveling, tbh. Nothing more fun than that in classic wow, especially with a friend. You could come up with weird things like making the ultimate instakilling holypriest with some good planning and a paladin friend:

- Spiritual guidance to turn 25% of your total spirit into damage/healing.
- Spirit Tap to double the spirit you get from gear
- Searing Light and Divine fury to get the 10% stronger smite and reduced cast speed.
- Divine Spirit from Discipline for more damage, and other stuff like Meditation on the way.

Then from Paladin he got
- The crusader judgement (sick flat damage buff for holy damage throughout levels)
- Sanctity Aura for that extra +10% holy damage
- The Blessing of Kings for 10% more spirit for the priest (ontop of the +5% human racial).

And then all the consumables ontop of that, like spirit scrolls, arcane elixirs, flasks (at lvl 60 for tyrs grind), wizard oils, spirit foods, etc.

It was a force. :D

Too bad all these little weirdities were streamlined out in later patches. And too bad the current selection of private realms suffer constant DDoS to be even remotely enjoyable.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
June 09 2013 17:51 GMT
#88
I miss the days of alliance bitching about the horde warrior + restro sham combos in pvp. Warriors having windfury while never dying buhahahaha.
Never Knows Best.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 09 2013 17:52 GMT
#89
are there any concrete plans to do something? ive never played wow (didnt want to pay) but if there's a group of TL'ers doing stuff (who'd be willing to at least kind of tell me what to do) i'd love to hop on.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 17:53:59
June 09 2013 17:53 GMT
#90
Blizzard needs to pull a runescape.

1xVanilla, TBC, Wotlk servers in each region.

See what happens :-D

Its bullshit having all that content gone from the game, they should have nostalgia servers imo, would keep people playing more often thats for sure, but i guess people paying for subs and only playing 2 hours a day +6 more for raids a week keeps their profits high and their bandwidth low.
Useless wet fish.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
June 09 2013 18:13 GMT
#91
On June 08 2013 22:56 TheKefka wrote:
Who ever says they had fun in molten core is either shamelessly lying or his brain is tainted by nostalgia
Molten core was one of the worst fucking experiences ever and the only thing that makes is worth it is actually finishing it and looking back at the days of total bullshit that was farming and progression you had to go through.
I have no idea who in his right mind wants to go back and raid molten core for fun
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On June 08 2013 04:56 Judicator wrote:
Not to mention all the hard checks they put into the game, you weren't going to progress in BWL unless you farmed MC for your 40. Then there are attunement quests, etc. etc. People nostalgic for vanilla just overlook some of the really annoying aspects of getting 40 people together. Oh you got a new member? Gotta run MC again for the 500th time so we can progress in BWL.

That stagnant progression was soul crushing the moment you realized what you were doing.Your state of mind went literally from Yeah we downed Ragnaros! to Fuck we need to kill Ragnaros for someone's T2. That shit wasn't exciting.

TBC was the high point where Blizzard found a balance. Haven't raided enough in anything past that expansion to comment.

yes,yes and yes


I had fun in Molten Core my first few times. Later on I found ways to have fun, like dropping Rain of Fire on the raid and making them run around like headless chickens. Good times.

That said, after sitting Cata out I'm having a blast with MoP. I recently finished the warlock green fire quest and it was a blast. It has a lot of things done very right. Good luck with your raids, though! If you get a good group vanilla WoW is a blast, I'll never forget it.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
June 09 2013 18:15 GMT
#92
FADC
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 09 2013 18:20 GMT
#93
So I just started playing on feenix TBC server. Quite impressed so far, my ping is amazing, there's a lot of people on.

Question is, how is one supposed to play this? I just killed a few enemies in the very start, and hit level 6. I don't have even close to enough gold to buy my abilities, and since I level so quickly, I get no gear. I assume these issues are alleviated once you're high enough level that you won't be leveling from killing just 10 enemies, but what's the recommended way to go about it early on?
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
June 09 2013 18:28 GMT
#94
On June 10 2013 03:20 Tobberoth wrote:
So I just started playing on feenix TBC server. Quite impressed so far, my ping is amazing, there's a lot of people on.

Question is, how is one supposed to play this? I just killed a few enemies in the very start, and hit level 6. I don't have even close to enough gold to buy my abilities, and since I level so quickly, I get no gear. I assume these issues are alleviated once you're high enough level that you won't be leveling from killing just 10 enemies, but what's the recommended way to go about it early on?


Only buy the really important skills (Frostbolt, Sinister Strike etc.) You can't do anything about your gear, which is annoying especially as melee. If you are something like a level 30 rogue with a level 6 dagger, try to farm chests until you get decent weapon.

Don't beg for gold, it's annoying
AxUU
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Finland162 Posts
June 09 2013 18:35 GMT
#95
On June 07 2013 23:40 Ljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 23:37 pokerface wrote:
I must say i loved vanilla.I have immediately dropped wow at first expansion and never looked back :D

But... But TBC was really good. D:


TBC was the worst thing ever after Cataclysm imo, even MoP is better.

Vanilla > Wotlk > MoP > TBC > Cata

But anyways, wow-one.com, the feenix servers are quite good.
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AxUU
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Finland162 Posts
June 09 2013 18:41 GMT
#96
On June 09 2013 07:34 Capped wrote:
Yeah i just found out they have a 1x server, i looked it up earlier and they didnt advertise it lol.

Ima download naow.

^ at the above, what server is that, 1x or 16x or 12x or their "instant 60" server? Would love the 1x to have a good playerbase


12x, it has the biggest playerbase, the 16x (TBC) is around the same with the 12x, and the instant 60 has the lowest playerbase, 1x hovering somewhere in the mid-grounds.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 09 2013 19:00 GMT
#97
On June 10 2013 03:28 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 03:20 Tobberoth wrote:
So I just started playing on feenix TBC server. Quite impressed so far, my ping is amazing, there's a lot of people on.

Question is, how is one supposed to play this? I just killed a few enemies in the very start, and hit level 6. I don't have even close to enough gold to buy my abilities, and since I level so quickly, I get no gear. I assume these issues are alleviated once you're high enough level that you won't be leveling from killing just 10 enemies, but what's the recommended way to go about it early on?


Only buy the really important skills (Frostbolt, Sinister Strike etc.) You can't do anything about your gear, which is annoying especially as melee. If you are something like a level 30 rogue with a level 6 dagger, try to farm chests until you get decent weapon.

Don't beg for gold, it's annoying

Yeah, picking a warrior was probably not a good idea... so item dependant in vanilla/TBC. I'm level 10 now and haven't gotten a single upgrade, so it's already starting to become tough, can't even afford the second levels of the skills I need and I've been skipping pretty much all of my spells. Hopefully my 18 stack of linen sells for 90 silver, that should be enough to get the ball rolling.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
June 09 2013 19:22 GMT
#98
On June 07 2013 23:40 Ljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 23:37 pokerface wrote:
I must say i loved vanilla.I have immediately dropped wow at first expansion and never looked back :D

But... But TBC was really good. D:

Yeah this, TBC was better than base WoW. Blizzard was starting to really try balancing out the different specs in TBC, there were arena seasons 1, 2 and 3, and the PvE zones were amazing with really good boss encounters.
Vault Boy
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany131 Posts
June 09 2013 19:40 GMT
#99
On June 10 2013 03:35 AxUU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 23:40 Ljas wrote:
On June 07 2013 23:37 pokerface wrote:
I must say i loved vanilla.I have immediately dropped wow at first expansion and never looked back :D

But... But TBC was really good. D:


TBC was the worst thing ever after Cataclysm imo, even MoP is better.

Vanilla > Wotlk > MoP > TBC > Cata

But anyways, wow-one.com, the feenix servers are quite good.


TBC > Vanilla > Beta > WotLK until Ulduar > Rest > Downtimes > Patchdays > Casualysm > Pandaland
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 19:47:04
June 09 2013 19:45 GMT
#100
On June 08 2013 23:31 Jibba wrote:
I think PvP was actually less about zerging. It was much more possible to win 1v2/3 fights than it is today.


That's because people were complete shit not having a clue how to PvP:D Or before the times of the CC nerf, you could just CC someone forever lol. Remember sapping a bunch of people in EPL for like 20 minutes, they chased me into the undercity(they were alliance) they were so angry. Sapp lasted for 45 sec back then, good times!

The one part of vanilla i miss the most is that the world was alive. You went to EPL, Felwood, WPL, Winterspring, BRM etc you would always find people - always. Either grinding or roaming for a fight, this was so much fun and the time i did not spend raiding i spent roaming the world PvPing. Starting lightly in TBC and completed in wotlk was the "stand around in a city" idling since you had no real thing to do in the outside world(so much less grinding that actually netted something compared to vanilla) and also ofcourse, flying mounts.
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