WoW vanilla brainstorm - Page 6

On June 10 2013 05:24 Rah wrote:
Play vanilla EverQuest1. WoW was bad because it was a dumbed down, more shallow EQ. In modern MMO chats I hear WoW players saying things like "remember when we played vanilla WoW and the game was hard". WoW was never hard, people were just bad. You could solo your way through the entire game while barely understanding your class. In WoW everyone's allowed to be an asshat, in EQ being an asshat was a good way to ensure you'd never get to max level. You couldn't do anything alone in that game, so your reputation meant more.

I could go on and on about it, but I'm in the minority on this one, and you can't know unless you experienced it. It was the unforgiving nature of it that made EQ unfit for the masses, most players who picked the game up at the time became frustrated with it quickly, but this also made it an amazing game. Every noob's first experience was a quick death until they learned how to do it right, and explaining the Overlord Mata Muram fight with a 54 man team to a WoW player would make them pee a little. I realize I sound like a jerk coming into a WoW thread talking about another game, but it had to be said. =p

On June 10 2013 04:00 Tobberoth wrote:

Yeah, picking a warrior was probably not a good idea... so item dependant in vanilla/TBC. I'm level 10 now and haven't gotten a single upgrade, so it's already starting to become tough, can't even afford the second levels of the skills I need and I've been skipping pretty much all of my spells. Hopefully my 18 stack of linen sells for 90 silver, that should be enough to get the ball rolling.

On June 10 2013 05:24 Rah wrote:
Play vanilla EverQuest1. WoW was bad because it was a dumbed down, more shallow EQ. In modern MMO chats I hear WoW players saying things like "remember when we played vanilla WoW and the game was hard". WoW was never hard, people were just bad. You could solo your way through the entire game while barely understanding your class. In WoW everyone's allowed to be an asshat, in EQ being an asshat was a good way to ensure you'd never get to max level. You couldn't do anything alone in that game, so your reputation meant more.

I could go on and on about it, but I'm in the minority on this one, and you can't know unless you experienced it. It was the unforgiving nature of it that made EQ unfit for the masses, most players who picked the game up at the time became frustrated with it quickly, but this also made it an amazing game. Every noob's first experience was a quick death until they learned how to do it right, and explaining the Overlord Mata Muram fight with a 54 man team to a WoW player would make them pee a little. I realize I sound like a jerk coming into a WoW thread talking about another game, but it had to be said. =p

On June 10 2013 08:08 Roggay wrote:

The first char on feenix 16x TBC server or 12x vanilla server is really painful to get to max level, because you can't buy your spells and stuff. The easiest way to do it is to stop levelling for awhile and farm the low level gathering professions (selling everything to the AH, it usually earns you a lot of money on these servers) until you can afford some spells.

Other than that, you can always play on their 1x server (or even froze your xp gain to 1x on the 12x, but i dunno why you would do that), but its really long to get to 60 in vanilla.

On June 10 2013 15:12 Rah wrote:
I'm not even focusing on the difficulty end of things. The benefit was that most of the kids and bads stopped playing the game before hitting max level. As a result you had an competent and tightly knit community to play with at the end of the grind. Everyone went through hell to get there so you can feel confident that this guy you're forming a party with knows how to play his class, and he's less likely to do something stupid and immature because it would have meaningful repercussions on his reputation in the community. Compare this to WoW where someone could get a max level character without even knowing what CC is, or how to behave in a group setting.

On June 10 2013 16:40 Capped wrote:
Flying mounts and dungeon / raid finder really killed off this game.

I dont know why they didnt do something like make an instanced room prior to each dungeon / raid. Link all the servers to that giant room and let people travel there to find parties.

On June 10 2013 17:06 Tobberoth wrote:

Because the vast majority of players don't want to sit around in a room doing nothing waiting for raids to happen, they want to be playing the game. That's the whole point of the raid finder, you can do whatever else you want to be doing while waiting for the raid.

Does it kill some of the immersion? Sure, but the majority of blizzards paying customers do not care.