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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
June 12 2013 02:11 GMT
#2601
On June 12 2013 10:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand you're fired.



What a fucking entitled douche.
The universe created an audience for itself.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 12 2013 02:11 GMT
#2602
hmmm sounds a lot like "dont like sc2? go play bw"
now you guys know how it feels! >=/
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Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
June 12 2013 03:17 GMT
#2603
On June 12 2013 11:11 jinorazi wrote:
hmmm sounds a lot like "dont like sc2? go play bw"
now you guys know how it feels! >=/


It's also almost ver batim what some Acti Blizz exec said about Diablo III. "You don't have internet, then Diablo III isn't the game for you!" For all the accusations that gamers are entitled children who just want free games, video game executives do seem to constantly throw out the image that they don't care about us because they're guaranteed to make money anyway.
#2throwed
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 04:02:39
June 12 2013 04:02 GMT
#2604
On June 12 2013 12:17 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 11:11 jinorazi wrote:
hmmm sounds a lot like "dont like sc2? go play bw"
now you guys know how it feels! >=/


It's also almost ver batim what some Acti Blizz exec said about Diablo III. "You don't have internet, then Diablo III isn't the game for you!" For all the accusations that gamers are entitled children who just want free games, video game executives do seem to constantly throw out the image that they don't care about us because they're guaranteed to make money anyway.

It's true. If you don't have internet, Xbox One is not for you. Neither is Diablo 3. The guy in the video spoke the truth.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 12 2013 04:06 GMT
#2605
On June 12 2013 11:11 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand you're fired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkEe_l7S3g

What a fucking entitled douche.

Lol that wasn't a very smart move from him, to say the least.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 12 2013 04:12 GMT
#2606
At least he was honest and didn't give a PR damage control answer.
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 04:21:18
June 12 2013 04:15 GMT
#2607
On June 12 2013 11:06 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:25 SnipedSoul wrote:
How is all this cloud networking stuff going to work anyway? How am I going to download games when I have 5 Mbps internet?

Slowly. Also, they should still have disc based games you just have to install them to the HDD like you do on a PC

I actually, I believe this could be a saving grace for Xbox One down the road. Now they won't be able to use it to affect anything dynamic in game but there are several applications that are possible at least in the future. Small things like weather, stuff that doesn't change once loaded you know.

But also bigger picture, with the power the cloud brings, you could store almost unlimited data to create the most realistic npc's ever seen. Being able to store dialogue, NPC actions, behaviors, etc on the cloud, so many that you would be able to play through a game like Elder Scrolls without ever hearing the same thing twice or seeing NPC's do so many more variations of tasks in different ways. Or how about maps? Being able to store so many different locations that you could literally create a whole world for a game. You could literally race across Europe or in Elder Scrolls case, create Tamriel and Akavir without scaling down. Morrowind would be as big as it was in Morrowind. Skyrim could be as large as it was in the last one. Even bigger if they wanted. They could create an actual Elder Scrolls MMO where the gameplay is just like the single player, but with the most realistic NPC's ever, doing so many different tasks and changing the world instead of just walking back and forth from building to building. They could all have their own personalities, looks, and actions. That possibility is incredible to me and is something that is exclusive to Xbox One.

Now of course that technology isn't out yet but it is possible with the cloud from a data storage standpoint. Another issue would be that it could only really be used in Xbox exclusives since PS4 doesn't have that capability. But that is why I have been saying that while PS4 is the front runner now, the ceiling is much higher for XBox one. Its really up to if MS wants to put in the effort or not.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
June 12 2013 04:21 GMT
#2608
On June 12 2013 11:11 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand you're fired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkEe_l7S3g

What a fucking entitled douche.

I couldn't help but laugh that he just said to a Naval officer/npc that it's to bad you are serving the country, I don't know what it means, you buy xbo360.



Like anything, I'm reserving my opinion until 1 month after release (like I do with all things, I find first buyers either financially secure enough or irresponsible in their purchases to afford the chance of wasting money)

If someone can hack the xbox 360 controller to work on a ps4, I'd be sold t.t
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
June 12 2013 04:24 GMT
#2609
On June 12 2013 13:21 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 11:11 Mortal wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand you're fired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkEe_l7S3g

What a fucking entitled douche.

I couldn't help but laugh that he just said to a Naval officer/npc that it's to bad you are serving the country, I don't know what it means, you buy xbo360.


Come on man! He didn't say that at all haha. I get it, Xbox is having a rough go right now but lets keep it reasonable.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 04:30:47
June 12 2013 04:28 GMT
#2610
On June 12 2013 13:24 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 13:21 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:11 Mortal wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand you're fired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkEe_l7S3g

What a fucking entitled douche.

I couldn't help but laugh that he just said to a Naval officer/npc that it's to bad you are serving the country, I don't know what it means, you buy xbo360.


Come on man! He didn't say that at all haha. I get it, Xbox is having a rough go right now but lets keep it reasonable.


Did he not allude to it? I've been one of the biggest defenders of the Xbox in this thread (accused of being a MS employee) and I still stand behind my comments but he blatantly said to bad, buy a xbox360 if you're overseas or without a connection. What about anyone living in a rural area with bad connection? Or going on a trip?

The reporter should have said "Do you mean buy a Ps4 if you want to buy a next gen console"?
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 12 2013 04:28 GMT
#2611
On June 12 2013 13:15 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 11:06 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:25 SnipedSoul wrote:
How is all this cloud networking stuff going to work anyway? How am I going to download games when I have 5 Mbps internet?

Slowly. Also, they should still have disc based games you just have to install them to the HDD like you do on a PC

I actually, I believe this could be a saving grace for Xbox One down the road. Now they won't be able to use it to affect anything dynamic in game but there are several applications that are possible at least in the future. Small things like weather, stuff that doesn't change once loaded you know.

But also bigger picture, with the power the cloud brings, you could store almost unlimited data to create the most realistic npc's ever seen. Being able to store dialogue, NPC actions, behaviors, etc on the cloud, so many that you would be able to play through a game like Elder Scrolls without ever hearing the same thing twice or seeing NPC's do so many more variations of tasks in different ways. Or how about maps? Being able to store so many different locations that you could literally create a whole world for a game. You could literally race across Europe or in Elder Scrolls case, create Tamriel and Akavir without scaling down. Morrowind would be as big as it was in Morrowind. Skyrim could be as large as it was in the last one. Even bigger if they wanted. They could create an actual Elder Scrolls MMO where the gameplay is just like the single player, but with the most realistic NPC's ever, doing so many different tasks and changing the world instead of just walking back and forth from building to building. They could all have their own personalities, looks, and actions. That possibility is incredible to me and is something that is exclusive to Xbox One.

Now of course that technology isn't out yet but it is possible with the cloud from a data storage standpoint. Another issue would be that it could only really be used in Xbox exclusives since PS4 doesn't have that capability. But that is why I have been saying that while PS4 is the front runner now, the ceiling is much higher for XBox one.

PS4 is doing cloud too (note: cloud, not cloud computing). PS4 also has a very good channel of distribution through PSN and Gaikai and most of what you are talking about is something that can easily be added in through patches or potentially streamed in through Gaikai.

What you talk about would also be interesting to try and implement. The only way that I can see it work is if they streamed you a ton of data/audio data whenever you entered an area with NPC's and load everything since they cant predict who you will talk to. It can be done I suppose... but it could also be too much work and be DLC.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
June 12 2013 04:31 GMT
#2612
On June 12 2013 13:15 takingbackoj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 11:06 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:25 SnipedSoul wrote:
How is all this cloud networking stuff going to work anyway? How am I going to download games when I have 5 Mbps internet?

Slowly. Also, they should still have disc based games you just have to install them to the HDD like you do on a PC

I actually, I believe this could be a saving grace for Xbox One down the road. Now they won't be able to use it to affect anything dynamic in game but there are several applications that are possible at least in the future. Small things like weather, stuff that doesn't change once loaded you know.

But also bigger picture, with the power the cloud brings, you could store almost unlimited data to create the most realistic npc's ever seen. Being able to store dialogue, NPC actions, behaviors, etc on the cloud, so many that you would be able to play through a game like Elder Scrolls without ever hearing the same thing twice or seeing NPC's do so many more variations of tasks in different ways. Or how about maps? Being able to store so many different locations that you could literally create a whole world for a game. You could literally race across Europe or in Elder Scrolls case, create Tamriel and Akavir without scaling down. Morrowind would be as big as it was in Morrowind. Skyrim could be as large as it was in the last one. Even bigger if they wanted. They could create an actual Elder Scrolls MMO where the gameplay is just like the single player, but with the most realistic NPC's ever, doing so many different tasks and changing the world instead of just walking back and forth from building to building. They could all have their own personalities, looks, and actions. That possibility is incredible to me and is something that is exclusive to Xbox One.

Now of course that technology isn't out yet but it is possible with the cloud from a data storage standpoint. Another issue would be that it could only really be used in Xbox exclusives since PS4 doesn't have that capability. But that is why I have been saying that while PS4 is the front runner now, the ceiling is much higher for XBox one. Its really up to if MS wants to put in the effort or not.


I'm confused... I thought the PS4 will have cloud gaming as well (and will even enable backward compatibility with it). What is better or exclusive about XB on this?
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 12 2013 04:37 GMT
#2613
On June 12 2013 13:31 screamingpalm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 13:15 takingbackoj wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:06 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:25 SnipedSoul wrote:
How is all this cloud networking stuff going to work anyway? How am I going to download games when I have 5 Mbps internet?

Slowly. Also, they should still have disc based games you just have to install them to the HDD like you do on a PC

I actually, I believe this could be a saving grace for Xbox One down the road. Now they won't be able to use it to affect anything dynamic in game but there are several applications that are possible at least in the future. Small things like weather, stuff that doesn't change once loaded you know.

But also bigger picture, with the power the cloud brings, you could store almost unlimited data to create the most realistic npc's ever seen. Being able to store dialogue, NPC actions, behaviors, etc on the cloud, so many that you would be able to play through a game like Elder Scrolls without ever hearing the same thing twice or seeing NPC's do so many more variations of tasks in different ways. Or how about maps? Being able to store so many different locations that you could literally create a whole world for a game. You could literally race across Europe or in Elder Scrolls case, create Tamriel and Akavir without scaling down. Morrowind would be as big as it was in Morrowind. Skyrim could be as large as it was in the last one. Even bigger if they wanted. They could create an actual Elder Scrolls MMO where the gameplay is just like the single player, but with the most realistic NPC's ever, doing so many different tasks and changing the world instead of just walking back and forth from building to building. They could all have their own personalities, looks, and actions. That possibility is incredible to me and is something that is exclusive to Xbox One.

Now of course that technology isn't out yet but it is possible with the cloud from a data storage standpoint. Another issue would be that it could only really be used in Xbox exclusives since PS4 doesn't have that capability. But that is why I have been saying that while PS4 is the front runner now, the ceiling is much higher for XBox one. Its really up to if MS wants to put in the effort or not.


I'm confused... I thought the PS4 will have cloud gaming as well (and will even enable backward compatibility with it). What is better or exclusive about XB on this?


cloud computing! duhhh~
its amazing technology, simcity is like way ahead of its time, like seriously.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 04:53:57
June 12 2013 04:50 GMT
#2614
On June 12 2013 10:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand you're fired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkEe_l7S3g

I'm starting to wonder if Sony somehow bribed MS to act as arrogant idiots. Seriously this is not the way you respond to overwhelming criticism. They could at least have gone the "Thank you for your feedback and we want you to know that we listen to every feedback we get and we will look into it" and then do nothing, but no, let's make fun of them instead and call them idiots. That's so much better, right?
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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 12 2013 04:56 GMT
#2615
I have figured it out.

The Xbone is the 3rd step in their plan:
The xbox was the beginning, it established a fanbase
The x360 established a fanbase in xbox live for online gaming
xbone is establishing the integration with windows and the beginning push to interest people in pc gaming while gaining control of digital distribution in the console world

By the end of this generation, MS will load their next OS with their digital distribution (like they do with browsers by loading windows with IE) to put steam out of business (you mean I can play all my xbone titles on my computer!?), and will completely exit the console world with the push of HTPC's.

Steam will be out of business in digital distribution and will be forced to finally release half life 3 to stay alive and PC gaming will be supreme for all gamers.

Good guy MS is just giving us HL3.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
June 12 2013 04:59 GMT
#2616
On June 12 2013 13:50 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand you're fired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkEe_l7S3g

I'm starting to wonder if Sony somehow bribed MS to act as arrogant idiots. Seriously this is not the way you respond to overwhelming criticism. They could at least have gone the "Thank you for your feedback and we want you to know that we listen to every feedback we get and we will look into it" and then do nothing, but no, let's make fun of them instead and call them idiots. That's so much better, right?

You're starting to sound a little craaycray! =P
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
June 12 2013 05:00 GMT
#2617
On June 12 2013 09:20 jinorazi wrote:
i hope they dont change too much, i spent countless hours practicing EWGF and wavedash on ps dpad

Jesus Christ, I know what that means, lol.

Most Tekken player's I've met can play perfectly fine on PSX pad, haha. I think people will always use PS2 pads and their corresponding adapters (probably from inpin, lol)
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 12 2013 05:18 GMT
#2618
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkEe_l7S3g

Ouch.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
June 12 2013 05:21 GMT
#2619
On June 12 2013 13:31 screamingpalm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 13:15 takingbackoj wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:06 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:25 SnipedSoul wrote:
How is all this cloud networking stuff going to work anyway? How am I going to download games when I have 5 Mbps internet?

Slowly. Also, they should still have disc based games you just have to install them to the HDD like you do on a PC

I actually, I believe this could be a saving grace for Xbox One down the road. Now they won't be able to use it to affect anything dynamic in game but there are several applications that are possible at least in the future. Small things like weather, stuff that doesn't change once loaded you know.

But also bigger picture, with the power the cloud brings, you could store almost unlimited data to create the most realistic npc's ever seen. Being able to store dialogue, NPC actions, behaviors, etc on the cloud, so many that you would be able to play through a game like Elder Scrolls without ever hearing the same thing twice or seeing NPC's do so many more variations of tasks in different ways. Or how about maps? Being able to store so many different locations that you could literally create a whole world for a game. You could literally race across Europe or in Elder Scrolls case, create Tamriel and Akavir without scaling down. Morrowind would be as big as it was in Morrowind. Skyrim could be as large as it was in the last one. Even bigger if they wanted. They could create an actual Elder Scrolls MMO where the gameplay is just like the single player, but with the most realistic NPC's ever, doing so many different tasks and changing the world instead of just walking back and forth from building to building. They could all have their own personalities, looks, and actions. That possibility is incredible to me and is something that is exclusive to Xbox One.

Now of course that technology isn't out yet but it is possible with the cloud from a data storage standpoint. Another issue would be that it could only really be used in Xbox exclusives since PS4 doesn't have that capability. But that is why I have been saying that while PS4 is the front runner now, the ceiling is much higher for XBox one. Its really up to if MS wants to put in the effort or not.


I'm confused... I thought the PS4 will have cloud gaming as well (and will even enable backward compatibility with it). What is better or exclusive about XB on this?

While Sony will have cloud features, saving, syncing, and allowing players to buy PS1,2, and 3 games (giving the option of backwards compatibility) and will also allow PS4 users to update their games and even possibly stream games before they download them. All great features really.

But, MS is upping their servers from currently 15,000, to 300,000. PS4 Gaikai wont come anywhere close to that remaining near the standard of today. Xbox is going all in by hoping game makers will produce games that utilize the clouds capabilities as like the ones I stated above. Some people have stated that it will be like running 300,000 xbox's at one time which is untrue because you can't use cloud gaming to compute instantly. It has to be used more so for graphics, or lighting, or stuff like that. Nothing dynamic but it will be used to affect the actual gameplay.

So PS4 will have cloud gaming features (not at launch but all they have said so far is expect it in 2014) but it will be a disc based system that is augmented by Gaikai but not used to amplify the games itself. Xbox One is completely intergrated cloud gaming in its system and has really gone to a whole new level with it. Now does this necessarily mean that it will ever be used to the full extent? No, but if MS has any sense it will be and I think, from listening to their pressers and statements, that is what they intend on doing. The biggest issue will be convincing companies to buy into it and put forth the effort to lead the way in Cloud gaming. Something that is easier said than done considering expenses and time. But the possibilities are there for Xbox.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
June 12 2013 05:26 GMT
#2620
On June 12 2013 13:28 Hitch-22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 13:24 takingbackoj wrote:
On June 12 2013 13:21 Hitch-22 wrote:
On June 12 2013 11:11 Mortal wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand you're fired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkEe_l7S3g

What a fucking entitled douche.

I couldn't help but laugh that he just said to a Naval officer/npc that it's to bad you are serving the country, I don't know what it means, you buy xbo360.


Come on man! He didn't say that at all haha. I get it, Xbox is having a rough go right now but lets keep it reasonable.


Did he not allude to it? I've been one of the biggest defenders of the Xbox in this thread (accused of being a MS employee) and I still stand behind my comments but he blatantly said to bad, buy a xbox360 if you're overseas or without a connection. What about anyone living in a rural area with bad connection? Or going on a trip?

The reporter should have said "Do you mean buy a Ps4 if you want to buy a next gen console"?

As has been said already, what did you want him to say? It requires you to be online. If you don't have internet then you're SOL. Should he lie? Also, a bad connection wont affect anything. You don't need to connect with other players and play games, you just need an internet connection to update games. It doesn't need to be fast. You just have to have one.

Are their people without internet connections around the world? Sure, but the fact is, if you dont have internet then you probably arent interested in an xbox anyway. And for those living in areas where internet isn't available, then it sucks for them I guess. I guarantee MS wasn't banking on the northern Alaskan demographics to buy their system either way.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
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