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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
July 29 2014 11:03 GMT
#1461
Well if you're going Dominion with the few of us then you'll have to be human/Chua.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 29 2014 14:41 GMT
#1462
Aye, after levelling 4 classes to 6/7 i decided on the Esper, love me some healing and those medic weapons look so silly

Hazak - Dominion - OmniCapp
Useless wet fish.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
July 29 2014 14:52 GMT
#1463
Just a heads up that Spellslingers are also healers in case you didn't check them out.
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
July 29 2014 21:43 GMT
#1464
Holy crap, i wanted to give it a try now that i am officially on holidays, tried to check the forums to know how the game is doing, and the PvP forums are all doom and gloom. I don't even dare to approach to the other subforums. Is the PvP at high level that bad ?

I will still play it anyways. The PvE looks like a blast tho.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 29 2014 21:54 GMT
#1465
On July 30 2014 06:43 Godwrath wrote:
Holy crap, i wanted to give it a try now that i am officially on holidays, tried to check the forums to know how the game is doing, and the PvP forums are all doom and gloom. I don't even dare to approach to the other subforums. Is the PvP at high level that bad ?

I will still play it anyways. The PvE looks like a blast tho.


All MMO forums are like that dude. Everyone Q.Qs no matter what.

Also all MMO's have issues at launch and pvp got hit pretty hard with the brunt of them in wildstar (wintrading, botting etc) carbine are doing a good job of fixing it all in the months since release afaik but ofc the official forums fails to recognise that because of my first sentence D:
Useless wet fish.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
July 29 2014 22:54 GMT
#1466
On July 29 2014 23:41 Capped wrote:
Aye, after levelling 4 classes to 6/7 i decided on the Esper, love me some healing and those medic weapons look so silly

Hazak - Dominion - OmniCapp

I wish they had some variety in what they could wield
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
July 29 2014 22:59 GMT
#1467
PvP is currently still broken but a patch is coming within the next two weeks that should address the majority of the issues. It won't be perfect after these changes but it should be a lot more sensible.
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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
July 30 2014 02:00 GMT
#1468
On July 30 2014 07:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
PvP is currently still broken but a patch is coming within the next two weeks that should address the majority of the issues. It won't be perfect after these changes but it should be a lot more sensible.


Yeah, I have a friend that is playing on the PTR and they said that the damage levels are much more reasonable.

No more "He touched me I'm dead" moments.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
July 30 2014 03:41 GMT
#1469
The patch is coming this week. they said by the end of july and they didn't budge from that on the show today but didn't nail down the exact day. might be tonight might not.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 04:14:30
July 30 2014 04:11 GMT
#1470
On July 30 2014 12:41 Sermokala wrote:
The patch is coming this week. they said by the end of july and they didn't budge from that on the show today but didn't nail down the exact day. might be tonight might not.


Everyone seemed to think it would be this tuesday (it wasn't) or next

On July 30 2014 06:43 Godwrath wrote:
Holy crap, i wanted to give it a try now that i am officially on holidays, tried to check the forums to know how the game is doing, and the PvP forums are all doom and gloom. I don't even dare to approach to the other subforums. Is the PvP at high level that bad ?

I will still play it anyways. The PvE looks like a blast tho.



PVP seems like a horror story atm, i've heard many accounts of mass wintrading (people queueing for an hour, getting people dodging them 2-3x a minute and failing 20+ queues in a row) and you don't have to look far to see somebody in game charging 50 euros for a boost to 1800 rating (which holds several best in slot PVE items which give >10% DPS boosts over what you can find on auction house)

I trust carbine to fix up some stuff, but there's been some pretty serious damage done to gearing for various reasons (crafting, pvp mainly) that seems like a bit of a mess to deal with in a serious game.

I'd like if they worked upwards on tiers quite quickly to make this old gear obsolete or at least replaceable, for a fresh start. The only other options are retroactively nerfing everything that everyone paid and worked for (they have said they won't do that) or leaving a fraction of the population with gear significantly better than everyone elses which is now unobtainable
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
July 30 2014 04:39 GMT
#1471
On July 30 2014 13:11 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 12:41 Sermokala wrote:
The patch is coming this week. they said by the end of july and they didn't budge from that on the show today but didn't nail down the exact day. might be tonight might not.


Everyone seemed to think it would be this tuesday (it wasn't) or next

Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 06:43 Godwrath wrote:
Holy crap, i wanted to give it a try now that i am officially on holidays, tried to check the forums to know how the game is doing, and the PvP forums are all doom and gloom. I don't even dare to approach to the other subforums. Is the PvP at high level that bad ?

I will still play it anyways. The PvE looks like a blast tho.



PVP seems like a horror story atm, i've heard many accounts of mass wintrading (people queueing for an hour, getting people dodging them 2-3x a minute and failing 20+ queues in a row) and you don't have to look far to see somebody in game charging 50 euros for a boost to 1800 rating (which holds several best in slot PVE items which give >10% DPS boosts over what you can find on auction house)

I trust carbine to fix up some stuff, but there's been some pretty serious damage done to gearing for various reasons (crafting, pvp mainly) that seems like a bit of a mess to deal with in a serious game.

I'd like if they worked upwards on tiers quite quickly to make this old gear obsolete or at least replaceable, for a fresh start. The only other options are retroactively nerfing everything that everyone paid and worked for (they have said they won't do that) or leaving a fraction of the population with gear significantly better than everyone elses which is now unobtainable


On bloodsworn dom 95%+ of all 1800 players win traded there.

Crafted item passives are still really brokenly strong, though getting weaker.

Stalkers are blowing up everything they touch right now, damage in general is just too high.

Spellslingers have a bug where they can fire 2 charge shots at once if you do it right, every time. They can also gate trick, which means they go in one direction and stun in another.

2's i full of people that tanked their rating all the way down to carry friends up. 50%+ of the ques are people that just leave when they get in, which you get nothing from.

PvP is really broken right now, hopefully patch helps.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 05:58:14
July 30 2014 04:45 GMT
#1472
This bug?



lol

I've not seen most of this, but then again i don't pvp. I would if i had heard good things, but it seems quite the opposite, my chances of pvping to 1800 legit and learning the game in a fun environment seem low.

PVE seems good, amazing even, aside from my concerns about gear and actually having people to play with. If you only PUG, you probably want to be playing World of Warcraft (which designs all of content to be PUG-able) instead of Wildstar where you'll probably get 1-50 in about 100 hours and then hit a wall of nothing but dailies and content that you can't actually do with no reason to bother farming money to gear up, if you're solo and don't plan to join at least a decent guild or group of friends
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
July 30 2014 06:02 GMT
#1473
On July 30 2014 13:45 Cyro wrote:
This bug?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxLX39tF6bc

lol

I've not seen most of this, but then again i don't pvp. I would if i had heard good things, but it seems quite the opposite, my chances of pvping to 1800 legit and learning the game in a fun environment seem low.

PVE seems good, amazing even, aside from my concerns about gear and actually having people to play with. If you only PUG, you probably want to be playing World of Warcraft (which designs all of content to be PUG-able) instead of Wildstar where you'll probably get 1-50 in about 100 hours and then hit a wall of nothing but dailies and content that you can't actually do with no reason to bother farming money to gear up, if you're solo and don't plan to join at least a decent guild or group of friends


Not that bug, theres another one thats really hard to see if they are doing it (it just seems like they crit you or w/e, it looks exactly like one charge shot, only thing you can tell is if you paying attention to exactly what they are doing, or look at combat log)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
July 30 2014 07:22 GMT
#1474
I've yet to come across the Charged Shot bug/exploit.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 09:04:11
July 30 2014 07:45 GMT
#1475
I've had little problem with bugs like that, the infuriating stuff is just lack of polish:

My path skill is bugged to have a 10 minute cooldown instead of 3 minutes, so i'm effectively getting nothing out of my warrior path. I could have cool abilities like summoning people to me and making portal, but i chose soldier so i get this one, only it's broken.

My weapon randomly turned white yesterday and lost a bunch of stats. Solution is wait until next server restart in a day or so and maybe it'll fix itself (it did)

I got summoned somewhere, the button came up and accept/decline was visible. I wasn't quite out of combat when i hit accept, so it failed and the window went away. There was no warning of this, and because of it i had to hoverboard to this place about 3-5 kilometers away with a party waiting for me.

Just stuff like that, when it's like "Oh shit, really..?"

There is a lot of really awesome stuff in this game though. If you're looking for a good PVP environment or amazing class balance at launch, look elsewhere (they're reworking warrior tanking by drop 4.. maybe in drop 3.. so 3-4 months where i hear nobody is taking warrior tanks for progression raiding because of insufficient threat generation, which sucks)

All in all though i expect this to be a pretty damn good game in 6 months to a year, and it's certainly very fun now. It just feels right to play, even though there's quite a few problems and annoyances
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
July 30 2014 09:24 GMT
#1476
If for whatever reason you're set on pugging, veteran adventures are certainly doable. Dungeons are where the wall hits you. They're...okay if you're just trying to learn them, but expect them to be looong as people will give up halfway through and you'll have to find replacements. That said, every now and then you might find people you enjoy playing with and you can add them as friends for future groups.

Easiest and most sensible solution is still to find a guild though. Just last week my guild recruited two players who hadn't started on any dungeons and now they're both fully attuned.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
July 30 2014 09:27 GMT
#1477
You can PUG through adventures and work on dungeons, but i get the feeling that it would be way worse than WoW if you really wanted to progress without a guild.

There i did some crazy stuff including somehow doing tribute to insanity 10 player (10 man TOTC heroic, no wipes) in a PUG as tank, but here, content is a little more gated and generally progression is more limited and annoying if you're not playing with friends
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
July 30 2014 09:33 GMT
#1478
Fully agreed.

Get a guild.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 30 2014 10:00 GMT
#1479
What do i need a guild for, once im 50 you guys are going to carry my noob ass through everything. Right? ...Right?!
Useless wet fish.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
July 30 2014 11:03 GMT
#1480
If you're in my guild maybe.
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