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ThomasjServo
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Cyro
United Kingdom20340 Posts
this driver update only helps people with bad graphic cards who had reduced performance on higher settings. It does nothing for people like me who sit at 55 FPS all day, no matter the settings The main focus of the driver updates is to increase cpu efficiency of them and remove problematic interactions. See Nvidia driver update to 337.5 that got 40% FPS increases in battlefield 3 when CPU bound On June 26 2014 07:38 ThomasjServo wrote: Seems like Wildstar should be renamed to Wildly poor framerate. I play in a window, in a much smaller bit of my monitor, but I was hoping things wouldn't be as problematic in terms of just frames. I seriously don't think this is a big issue, like people with AMD cards definately have a leg down right now but it has been improved some and it will be improved more. People with AMD CPU's either have 6 year old phenom II or FX, so they're kinda screwed but everyone else is good. There's a reason my FPS is way higher than yours LaNague, you say you only get that high but do you really? If so then i have it beat by like 2x while having two CPU cores disabled - and the only explanation for that is GPU driver CPU efficiency, exactly what AMD is trying to fix right now. We can compare performance more if you like, i guess open to anyone who wants to do so On June 26 2014 07:18 layabout wrote: playing with friends and all of us have noticed a pretty significant drop in framerates since 2 weeks ago Did you benchmark the same areas, or is this just feeling? What hardware is it on? Performance seems the same or better on intel/nvidia, from what i've seen and tested with a few friends | ||
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Sermokala
United States14155 Posts
dasher boots best boots na. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20340 Posts
Can't think of a clearer way to put Intel/Nvidia performance than disabling two cores, showing CPU/GPU usage as well as FPS on screen with live gameplay while also live encoding 1080p@30fps Sure there are areas of lower performance but i don't see any MASSIVE PROBLEMS that can't be fixed | ||
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layabout
United Kingdom2600 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:09 Cyro wrote: The main focus of the driver updates is to increase cpu efficiency of them and remove problematic interactions. See Nvidia driver update to 337.5 that got 40% FPS increases in battlefield 3 when CPU bound I seriously don't think this is a big issue, like people with AMD cards definately have a leg down right now but it has been improved some and it will be improved more. People with AMD CPU's either have 6 year old phenom II or FX, so they're kinda screwed but everyone else is good. There's a reason my FPS is way higher than yours LaNague, you say you only get that high but do you really? If so then i have it beat by like 2x while having two CPU cores disabled - and the only explanation for that is GPU driver CPU efficiency, exactly what AMD is trying to fix right now. We can compare performance more if you like, i guess open to anyone who wants to do so Did you benchmark the same areas, or is this just feeling? What hardware is it on? Performance seems the same or better on intel/nvidia, from what i've seen and tested with a few friends It was in the ruins of kel voreth dungeon I have a radeonhd r7850 and i went from 30-40 fps in the main world to an average of around 12 in smallish fights and 16-19 with no models on screen other than my own, no real test just alt f1. Anecdotal evidence probably isnt of much use but my friend who recently bought a much newer card was also going to sub 20 fps and the rest of the group were practically vomitting down the microphone based on how much the performance dipped. Just checked and i think i might have a shitty processor (AMD Phnom II x4 850 ~3.3Ghz) but other games perform fine on it | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20340 Posts
On June 26 2014 12:56 layabout wrote: It was in the ruins of kel voreth dungeon I have a radeonhd r7850 and i went from 30-40 fps in the main world to an average of around 12 in smallish fights and 16-19 with no models on screen other than my own, no real test just alt f1. Anecdotal evidence probably isnt of much use but my friend who recently bought a much newer card was also going to sub 20 fps and the rest of the group were practically vomitting down the microphone based on how much the performance dipped. Just checked and i think i might have a shitty processor (AMD Phnom II x4 850 ~3.3Ghz) but other games perform fine on it That FPS is terrible, you must have some major issue to have it. Double checked CPU clock speeds, it stays the same when you use ultra low render scale etc? You do have a combination of what seems to be an oem version of the x4 965~ with 100mhz lower clock speed and no l3 cache (6 year old processor) and radeon drivers though | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Seriously though, in the last two days of arenaing, about 99% of teams (and I'm not exaggerating) have a Warrior or Spellslinger, and occasionally both. Espers and especially Engineers are rare sights in arena, which are the two classes in my team. I personally don't have a problem with Spellslingers; I feel they are somewhat predictable and their damage is avoidable with proper positioning. Warriors however do a ridiculous amount of damage and are incredibly difficult to avoid. Combine that with the lack of mobility or utility the Engineer appears to have and it can be quite hard to survive against them. Anyway, below is the game that popped him over 1500. It was the second of two games against a Spellslinger Engineer team that we beat quite easily in the first game. It's nothing particularly special, and looking back at it my Fade and Phantasmal Armor usage could've been much better. Oh well. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 1500 baby. | ||
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porkRaven
United States953 Posts
On June 27 2014 09:40 Firebolt145 wrote: Not much to say except https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tWYt2DOAtM + Show Spoiler + 1500 baby. Grats on your 1500! Didn't know this game had a respawn system for pvp. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On June 27 2014 11:09 Firebolt145 wrote: I actually really like the respawn system. It helps reduce the impact of completely random gibs from RNG (which is already lower impact than WoW's RNG) and helps to ensure that the winner is the overall better team rather than the one who gets lucky once or twice. There's also a little added strategy with regards to your healer suiciding to come back at full focus (mana), or deliberately leaving the enemy healer alive when killing their dps to force him to try and heal at low focus. I actually dislike the respawn system. It puts more emphasis towards "cleave" teams rather then setting up kills. It also turn 3's into just doing more damage, then once their healer is oom always just kill the dps over and over. Killing the healer in 3's loses you games... | ||
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Sermokala
United States14155 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
On June 27 2014 11:48 dae wrote: I actually dislike the respawn system. It puts more emphasis towards "cleave" teams rather then setting up kills. It also turn 3's into just doing more damage, then once their healer is oom always just kill the dps over and over. Killing the healer in 3's loses you games... The game is definitely nowhere near as CC-oriented as WoW is. That said, cooldowns in this game are sufficiently low enough that you are still able to win by setting up kill after kill. By the time your target respawns your utility abilities will almost be ready again. The number of games I win or lose based on focus is also quite low, and I can probably count the number of games that I've said 'I'm completely out of focus' on one hand. edit: Also, because of how everything is AoE damage, positioning is just that much more important. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14155 Posts
I don't have a problem with fps but I play on lowest settings out of preference. This sounds pretty promiseing for people. | ||
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ThomasjServo
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17682 Posts
June 4 a bunch of GreenManGaming customers can't use the CDKeys they purchased for WildStar. Giant Uproar occurs. After some finger pointing and research its determined it was Carbine/NCSoft's "fault". GreenManGaming.com publishes this fact in a nice politically correct manner on their web site. Customers CDKeys all start working after a few hours. GreenManGaming gets a 25% off code for WildStar and it seems its very hard to find the game on discount from any other mainstream retailers (ebay individual sellers not included). Carbine/NCSoft gave them the discount code to make up for their error on June 4. I sent the code to the OP and he posted the 25% of code in the OP. I used the 25% discount code and was able to add the CDKey to my account and moved from playing the 7-day trial to the full game in a matter of minutes. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4557 Posts
On June 27 2014 09:40 Firebolt145 wrote: Not much to say except https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tWYt2DOAtM + Show Spoiler + 1500 baby. That was a pretty epic comeback xD I've only played Stalker atm, so I don't understand anything happening in this vid, why didn't they just burst you again? It seems like you drop in a matter of seconds on your 2nd death, couldn't they just repeat that? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20340 Posts
On June 28 2014 00:20 Sermokala wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/29881t/disabled_cpu_core_0_for_ws_gained_80_more_fps/ I don't have a problem with fps but I play on lowest settings out of preference. This sounds pretty promiseing for people. This is one of those things that falls into "silly stuff that should never happen" which i guess some people are experiencing that's where performance should be in the first place, here's me @ auction house, pretty much lowest FPS i ever see (beaten only by the overlooks in the farside biodome things, those things will eat your FPS and understandably so) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zyaVNqv.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/REmm9T7.png) 20% FPS hit from UI can be largely optimized/removed if you want to, i just ran random addons with no thought towards performance I'l quote this: I believe that this is the answer, although it's hard to tell if people will realize it or not. If you look at his screenshot of his core utilization Here you can see that after Wildstar has been told to not use Core 0, Core 0 is still at 62% utilization (which means a lot is going on besides Wildstar on that core whether he realizes it or not - I'd like to see his processes tab to see what Windows says is using that core). That core would be near 0% (obviously, since Wildstar is no longer using it) unless there is other programs using it. Thus, his fps sucks because Wildstar was trying to run it's main thread on a busy core. Those who do not get more fps from this "fix", such as myself, have nothing going on on Core 0 other than Wildstar, and therefore by doing this the utilization of Core 0 goes to nearly 0% and the game just uses a different core and carries on as normal. Surprise, if your PC is already busy, it'll have trouble playing games!! key part - Thus, his fps sucks because Wildstar was trying to run it's main thread on a busy core. That's the fault of the game for not being "idiot-proof" but it also doesn't affect people with clean systems | ||
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PushDown
Italy208 Posts
On June 28 2014 04:59 Laurens wrote: That was a pretty epic comeback xD I've only played Stalker atm, so I don't understand anything happening in this vid, why didn't they just burst you again? It seems like you drop in a matter of seconds on your 2nd death, couldn't they just repeat that? They use a skill named "Assassinate", it's an instant (tight rectangular telegraph) that can be shoot 3 times in a row if charged at max capacity and while "empowered" by the SS ability it hits like a truck (litteraly, go get hit by a truck: that's the same amount of dmg that triple spam skill does if lands x3). In wow terms it would mean that you get executed 3 times in a row. The skill in question has a "white'ish blue color" and it a little "pew-pew" dart that flies from the the ss. Edit: at 0:28 when the dude is rooted, you can see the "pew-pew" flying towards him and his hp going down the hill. | ||
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