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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
June 25 2014 02:11 GMT
#1321
wow you're going to arena pvp without a warrior or stalker tank? you're pretty brave.

Stalker tanks are redic halarious. warriors have everything in their tool box and rampage.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 06:58:39
June 25 2014 05:11 GMT
#1322
Pretty nice vids, surprised how fast you are dropping, also some stuff i wanna talk about a little

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Both sides use the new(ish) beta drivers! The radeon one was just released last night? but the nvidia one a bit before that, i just didn't update yet. Also new driver family from nvidia soonish~? (343?)

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It begins! (cinebench temp check for 4.6@1.32 2-core)

gonna do some longish benchmarks now on farside


lol 180fps cap the moment i logged in with 2c2t @4.6ghz and gtx770 @1280mhz, 75% load

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My first thoughts: Performance is probably affected some going 2 cores to 4 because CPU load between 2 cores above 80% at times, but also that it performs really damn well if you have two fast cores

I did a long benchmark (like an hour) but apparently fraps doesn't like that, so i'l do a few shorter ones~

Everything max aside from view distance (512), small object detail (low) and dynamic shadows (off) - gtx770 @1280mhz rarely at 100% load

fighting on farside moon

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Flying around Farside (literally)

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"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
buMf00d
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands194 Posts
June 25 2014 07:06 GMT
#1323
Not really sure if I get any better fps now but it seems a bit smoother /shrugs
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 25 2014 07:13 GMT
#1324
Never leave it to feeling, our brains are very very silly at times ;p
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
buMf00d
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands194 Posts
June 25 2014 08:21 GMT
#1325
Well I have both an AMD CPU and GFX card, I don't see massive improvements.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
June 25 2014 11:06 GMT
#1326
On June 25 2014 11:11 Sermokala wrote:
wow you're going to arena pvp without a warrior or stalker tank? you're pretty brave.

Stalker tanks are redic halarious. warriors have everything in their tool box and rampage.

I definitely sense that Warriors are currently the most ridiculous class in arena but I don't feel afraid of Stalkers atm. Double Stalker is incredibly annoying in 2's because of how easy it seems to be for them to reset (the first time I came across them I had no idea that Potions of Vision could be used in arena), but beyond that they feel more manageable than Warriors.

If I had to name my ideal comp it would be Warrior OR Stalker + Spellslinger + me as healing Esper. Stalker/SS/Esper reminds me the most of RMP from WoW, which is the comp I played the most of back in the day. Unfortunately my friend didn't feel like rolling either of those classes and went for an Engineer instead. I'm happy with that since they still offer a 30% (75% if t8) healing debuff, though I've heard that that's very bugged at the moment.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
June 25 2014 11:16 GMT
#1327
Queue for 30 minutes, get into an RBG, cap 2 masks on the way to leading 4-0, server disconnects me, I reconnect and am kicked out of the game, -40 rating.

That's infuriating.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
June 25 2014 14:31 GMT
#1328
Several people in my guild have also reported substantial improvement with the new beta AMD driver.
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
June 25 2014 14:57 GMT
#1329
What drivers? the 14.6 drivers hit 1 day after Watch_Dogs got released, and no beta or normal drivers since then.
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
June 25 2014 15:03 GMT
#1330
Sorry if this is annoying but I'm just wondering if anyone has one of those friend codes still remaining?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 15:04:42
June 25 2014 15:03 GMT
#1331
On June 25 2014 20:06 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 11:11 Sermokala wrote:
wow you're going to arena pvp without a warrior or stalker tank? you're pretty brave.

Stalker tanks are redic halarious. warriors have everything in their tool box and rampage.

I definitely sense that Warriors are currently the most ridiculous class in arena but I don't feel afraid of Stalkers atm. Double Stalker is incredibly annoying in 2's because of how easy it seems to be for them to reset (the first time I came across them I had no idea that Potions of Vision could be used in arena), but beyond that they feel more manageable than Warriors.

If I had to name my ideal comp it would be Warrior OR Stalker + Spellslinger + me as healing Esper. Stalker/SS/Esper reminds me the most of RMP from WoW, which is the comp I played the most of back in the day. Unfortunately my friend didn't feel like rolling either of those classes and went for an Engineer instead. I'm happy with that since they still offer a 30% (75% if t8) healing debuff, though I've heard that that's very bugged at the moment.

war+ss is a good anti war medic comp. I'm not sold on engies at the moment in pvp at all they seem to be way to front oriented and if you can get any circle strafe action on them their dps drops like a rock. Espers are an enigma, they're either mobility gods that roam around like warriors wish they could or they get blown the f up at the first slight wind that they feel.

Health debuffs feel like they are bugged but in reality they are working perfectly. in arenas healing already gets a 50% debuff so the healing debuffs on top of that don't do as much to compensate. Also I don't know how gadgets and lifesteal works with the healing debuffs so who knows.

People went double healer 1 dps comps in beta and they wrecked the entire meta so they had to change that from happening.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 16:19:57
June 25 2014 15:49 GMT
#1332
The arena wide 50% healing debuff is only present in 2's, so that doesn't affect the double healer comps in 3's. I haven't done much 3's so I can't say much about them.

I'm not saying that the healing debuffs are bugged when they are applied; I've just been told that the Engineer's version (Unstable Anomaly) fails to hit its target most of the time. I've not heard any reports on the Warrior or Stalker version not working.

I've not played the Engineer but my arena partner finds it very difficult to lock people down or chase targets when they are trying to escape. It definitely feels that way, and most of our kills come when I've landed a long CC chain on their healer with their DPS tunnel visioning one of us in the open.

The main problem I have with my current arena partner is that he just doesn't play defensive when it is necessary. I understand that the Engineer's peeling ability is not as strong as other classes but there are other things like LoSing ranged damage when appropriate or resetting to heal up that he just won't do.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17329 Posts
June 25 2014 16:41 GMT
#1333
i didn't bother with the beta.
i got a 7 day guest pass ... what a wild ride it has been.

the combat mechanics of this game are phenomenal.
i can't believe i'm getting suckered into an MMO.

i like Force's perspective on getting hyped for an MMO

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 18:19:16
June 25 2014 17:42 GMT
#1334
On June 25 2014 23:57 Thalandros wrote:
What drivers? the 14.6 drivers hit 1 day after Watch_Dogs got released, and no beta or normal drivers since then.


The radeon dudes on wildstar subreddit said there was a new driver

Maybe the changes were added to just the rc2 version?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 21:02:06
June 25 2014 20:56 GMT
#1335
I just updated mine to the rc2 version (already had beta 14.6.) And I will check and edit this post once I'm done. I got about ~40-45 FPS in normal questing zones before.

Wow. They're right. solid 15+ FPS boost across the board. Can now run the game on high (except shadows, of course) with ~45-50FPS. I don't expect much more but that's great. If I put it on medium it pretty much always stays on the high 50's. Thanks for letting me know.

it's still not the performance I should get, but it's getting much closer.

Guess I'll finally play a bunch again!
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 21:20:19
June 25 2014 21:07 GMT
#1336
On June 26 2014 05:56 Thalandros wrote:
I just updated mine to the rc2 version (already had beta 14.6.) And I will check and edit this post once I'm done. I got about ~40-45 FPS in normal questing zones before.

Wow. They're right. solid 15+ FPS boost across the board. Can now run the game on high (except shadows, of course) with ~45-50FPS. I don't expect much more but that's great. If I put it on medium it pretty much always stays on the high 50's. Thanks for letting me know.

it's still not the performance I should get, but it's getting much closer.

Guess I'll finally play a bunch again!


Are you never getting higher FPS? I'm literally sitting at the 180 cap in some areas (inside housing, farside moon outdoors in empty places) and often averaging >120 for minutes while questing. I was doing that with my GPU underclocked and two cores of my CPU disabled, because it wasn't GPU bound or relying heavily on >2 cores
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 21:37:09
June 25 2014 21:36 GMT
#1337
this driver update only helps people with bad graphic cards who had reduced performance on higher settings.

It does nothing for people like me who sit at 55 FPS all day, no matter the settings




you will see a lot of "wow i got from 20 to 50 FPS". But you will not see "wow, i got from 60 to 80 FPS", because it doesnt help with the CPU problem at all.

MY GPU was allready underclocking itself in this game, this doesnt help me at all.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
June 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#1338
On June 26 2014 06:36 LaNague wrote:
this driver update only helps people with bad graphic cards who had reduced performance on higher settings.

It does nothing for people like me who sit at 55 FPS all day, no matter the settings




you will see a lot of "wow i got from 20 to 50 FPS". But you will not see "wow, i got from 60 to 80 FPS", because it doesnt help with the CPU problem at all.

MY GPU was allready underclocking itself in this game, this doesnt help me at all.


Actually the settings don't really matter much for me either. It's just always been this bad and I KNOW it can perform much better than it does. I don't think a 6950 with 2GB is by any means bad and I got a reasonable performance increase. I go up to 80 when idle from time to time and could probably go higher with lower settings and more optimization. The CPU problem isn't a problem to do with WildStar, it's a problem to do with the fact that AMD CPU's just aren't very efficient at all. For MMO's and RTS's and things alike, Intel CPU's have always been much superior because the games don't run on a lot of cores anyway. Intel beats AMD hands down in terms of efficiency so you'll always have a better time in intense games (for your CPU atleast). The problem mostly lies with AMD's architecture, not with WildStar or drivers
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
June 25 2014 22:11 GMT
#1339


This game is hard.
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layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 25 2014 22:18 GMT
#1340
playing with friends and all of us have noticed a pretty significant drop in framerates since 2 weeks ago
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