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Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
October 21 2013 07:31 GMT
#1461
On October 21 2013 16:12 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 16:05 Xinder wrote:
I have a question. I've never done competitive battling in any pokemon game and am trying to get acquainted with it all, catching loads of dittos atm. I'm trying to figure out a team style I might like so I'd like to try and compare styles to other strategy games. In Magic the gathering I loved playing blue decks because I liked controlling what my opponents could do.

Is there a team make up of pokemon that might be similar to a control style? I would guess maybe a team based on laying traps like stealth rock and spikes and then forcing swap outs to deal the damage? I dunno. Like I said I'm super new to all this and any advice is appreciated. FC: 2466-2684-0883 if anyone wants to add me. PM me yours so I can add you. :D


A little dated but most the information is more or less the same http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/bw-ou-stall-guide.3462376/


THANK YOU!!! :D
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 21 2013 07:45 GMT
#1462
On October 21 2013 15:11 rebdomine wrote:
@blahz0r, think you can trade me a nice dratini as well if you can get a spare?

What is your ingame name?

Drazerk: Trying to find you

VayneAuthority: What is your ingame name?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 21 2013 07:46 GMT
#1463
On October 21 2013 16:45 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 15:11 rebdomine wrote:
@blahz0r, think you can trade me a nice dratini as well if you can get a spare?

What is your ingame name?

Drazerk: Trying to find you

VayneAuthority: What is your ingame name?


magnet boy, what did you obtain =O?
I come in for the scraps
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 21 2013 07:48 GMT
#1464
On October 21 2013 16:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 16:45 blahz0r wrote:
On October 21 2013 15:11 rebdomine wrote:
@blahz0r, think you can trade me a nice dratini as well if you can get a spare?

What is your ingame name?

Drazerk: Trying to find you

VayneAuthority: What is your ingame name?


magnet boy, what did you obtain =O?

A 4IV Dratini if you still need one. Currently has Adamant nature.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 07:52:39
October 21 2013 07:49 GMT
#1465
On October 21 2013 16:48 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 16:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 21 2013 16:45 blahz0r wrote:
On October 21 2013 15:11 rebdomine wrote:
@blahz0r, think you can trade me a nice dratini as well if you can get a spare?

What is your ingame name?

Drazerk: Trying to find you

VayneAuthority: What is your ingame name?


magnet boy, what did you obtain =O?

A 4IV Dratini if you still need one. Currently has Adamant nature.


ok whats your game name?

thanks
I come in for the scraps
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 08:01:33
October 21 2013 07:59 GMT
#1466
On October 21 2013 16:45 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 15:11 rebdomine wrote:
@blahz0r, think you can trade me a nice dratini as well if you can get a spare?

What is your ingame name?

Drazerk: Trying to find you

VayneAuthority: What is your ingame name?


Went to get breakfast sorry

<3 thanks
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 08:07:18
October 21 2013 08:06 GMT
#1467
On October 21 2013 16:45 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 15:11 rebdomine wrote:
@blahz0r, think you can trade me a nice dratini as well if you can get a spare?

What is your ingame name?

Drazerk: Trying to find you

VayneAuthority: What is your ingame name?


IGN: Ophelia

Currently at work but will try to catch you later/tomorrow morning before I leave if possible.

EDIT: Or I can probably tether my phone and use it to go online in an hour or so before I leave the office. It all depends on whether I finish what I have to do though.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 21 2013 08:16 GMT
#1468
On October 21 2013 17:06 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 16:45 blahz0r wrote:
On October 21 2013 15:11 rebdomine wrote:
@blahz0r, think you can trade me a nice dratini as well if you can get a spare?

What is your ingame name?

Drazerk: Trying to find you

VayneAuthority: What is your ingame name?


IGN: Ophelia

Currently at work but will try to catch you later/tomorrow morning before I leave if possible.

EDIT: Or I can probably tether my phone and use it to go online in an hour or so before I leave the office. It all depends on whether I finish what I have to do though.

Another time works. Might go to bed after last set of breeding and helping friend do some weird experiment.
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
October 21 2013 08:22 GMT
#1469
"weird experiment"

Care to explain? :D
Jaedong :3
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 08:43:11
October 21 2013 08:35 GMT
#1470
On October 21 2013 17:22 ReketSomething wrote:
"weird experiment"

Care to explain? :D

Something about passing on a million skills and being able to kill one of the popular types of pokemon with a type that is generally weak or whatever? I don't really understand too much.

Oh I might try a Dedenne. If I am reading this Hidden Ability correct.. it always has 1.5x special attack?
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 09:11:16
October 21 2013 09:11 GMT
#1471
That only applies to double battles (or higher) with a Minus counterpart I'm afraid
buMf00d
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands194 Posts
October 21 2013 09:42 GMT
#1472
3153 4588 2092 name should be buMf00d or Luuc

Going to start playing again tonight. I'm told I have normal type in friend safari but I still need to complete the game.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 21 2013 10:03 GMT
#1473
Does anyone have a female Eevee with her hidden ability they would be willing to trade? If it has good IVs all the better. (And if you also have a male with decent IVs as well that you can part with to make more glorious Eevee babies, even more all the better).
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
October 21 2013 10:20 GMT
#1474
Can the given Lucario be re-rolled? I tried a few times but got the same nature every time. Could've been bad luck. I've started a new game, and would like to know for sure.
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
October 21 2013 12:03 GMT
#1475
On October 21 2013 19:20 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Can the given Lucario be re-rolled? I tried a few times but got the same nature every time. Could've been bad luck. I've started a new game, and would like to know for sure.


I think its IVs and Nature are fixed. Might be mistaken though.

Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 21 2013 12:21 GMT
#1476
On October 21 2013 19:20 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Can the given Lucario be re-rolled? I tried a few times but got the same nature every time. Could've been bad luck. I've started a new game, and would like to know for sure.

Its set which is why its the current go to pokemon in gen 6 speed runs
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 21 2013 13:09 GMT
#1477
On October 21 2013 19:20 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Can the given Lucario be re-rolled? I tried a few times but got the same nature every time. Could've been bad luck. I've started a new game, and would like to know for sure.


Just go catch Riolus on Rt. 22 if you really are after a good one.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 21 2013 13:30 GMT
#1478
On October 21 2013 14:28 Shotcoder wrote:
Is there a guide written somewhere about EVs and IVs? I honestly have no idea what you guys are talking about.

phanthom321 was kind enough to provide two guides for you already, but I feel like there are more people who are confused about the whole concept of those two terms, so I'll explain them in this thread as well for anyone who might want to know.

+ Show Spoiler [What are IVs?] +
You may have noticed throughout regular play that not all Pokemon are the same in terms of their stats. Indeed, there are NPCs in every game that will inform you that two Pokemon of the same species can have better or worse stats. This stat variance is the result of hidden values for each Pokemon called Individual Values.

Imagine each Pokemon's stat for a moment; HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed. Every time you encounter a Pokemon in the wild, or hatch one from an Egg, a random number is assigned to each of their stats, from 0 to 31. This number is your IV in that particular Pokemon's stat, and it determines the maximum stat gain it can possibly achieve in that stat. For instance, say I have a Pikachu with a 0 IV in its Special Attack, and my friend Bill has a Pikachu with a 31 IV in Special Attack. In this scenario, at level 100, Bill's Pikachu will have 31 extra points in Special Attack than my own Pikachu. In that sense, it will ALWAYS be better in Special Attack than my Pikachu, since IVs are set in stone and cannot ever be changed. Therefore, in a competitive environment, it is virtually required (with several notable exceptions) to have the best possible IVs you can have; in fact, when battling in a competitive environment, strategies and teams are built on the assumption that you will have perfect IVs for every Pokemon in your party, or at least very close to it.

As stated before, IVs are hidden values not normally displayed in the game for every player to see. However, upon defeating the Elite Four and the Champion, a new city can be accessed through the train station in Lumiose City. A man in the Pokemon Center of that city will "judge" your Pokemon and give a rough overview of its IVs. For a much more precise look at a given Pokemon's IVs, the use of an IV calculator is highly recommended (the most popular and accurate being MetalKid's calculator).

Note that while IVs are generated upon encountering or hatching a Pokemon and can never be changed, breeding makes it significantly easier to produce a Pokemon with good IVs, since certain breeding techniques exist that allow the IVs of each parent to be passed down to the child. This allows for the offspring to obtain good IVs quickly and with more control than simply wandering around in tall grass and hoping for the best.

Summary: IVs, or Individual Values, are values ranging from 0 to 31 that are applied to each stat of a newly encountered or hatched Pokemon. These values will determine the maximum possible stat total one can achieve for that Pokemon; a Pokemon with a Special Attack IV of 31, for example, will have 31 more Special Attack points at level 100 than that same Pokemon with a 0 IV in Special Attack. IVs cannot be changed or altered in any way, but can be passed down during breeding to make it easier to achieve a Pokemon with great IVs. While they are hidden values that are normally inaccessible to players, the use of the man in Kiloude City's Pokemon Center or an application like MetalKid's IV Calculator can give a rough or precise judgment, respectively, of a Pokemon's IVs.


+ Show Spoiler [What are EVs?] +
Effort Values are the second means of determining stat variance in Pokemon, and are slightly more complicated. You may have noticed playing through Pokemon that there is usually an NPC that tells you a trained Pokemon is more powerful than a wild Pokemon. This is true, and is due to Effort Values, or EVs.

Like IVs, EVs are allocated to particular stats; however, they are not set in stone upon encountering or hatching a Pokemon. Instead, every Pokemon starts with 0 EVs, and has a maximum capacity of 510 EVs, with up to 255 EVs maximum in a particular stat. Every 4 EVs acquired boosts that stat by one point. Therefore, EVs are capable of being changed, unlike IVs, and are in fact highly customizable. My Pikachu may have EVs invested into its Attack to hit for more damage on the physical side, while Bill's Pikachu may have invested into Special Attack to hit harder on the special side.

Now, how does one actually gain EVs? Several options are available; the most common way to gain EVs in stats is to battle other Pokemon. Every Pokemon in the game has a different "EV yield" that determines how many EVs they provide, and to which stat they will be given, when they are defeated in battle. These EV yields are almost always tied to that Pokemon's specialty in combat. For example, Alakazam is known as a formidable special attacker. When Bill uses Pikachu to defeat an Alakazam in a battle, his Pikachu will gain Special Attack EVs as a result. Selectively battling only the Pokemon that grant the EVs you desire for your own Pokemon is known as EV training, and is key to obtaining the most optimal stats.

Of course, it's not possible to keep gaining EVs forever and create a super Pokemon that has 999 in all stats. As I said before, a Pokemon can only have 510 total EVs, and each stat can only have a maximum of 255 EVs. Therefore, a very rudimentary way to EV train is to place 255 EVs in two stats that your Pokemon can make the most use of. For instance, I have a Jolteon that I want to EV train. Jolteon's two key attributes are its potent Special Attack and its high Speed. To capitalize on those advantages and optimize its strengths in battle, I may wish to EV train Jolteon to have 255 EVs in both Special Attack and Speed. That way, it can hit as hard and as fast as possible.

While acquiring EVs through battles is the most common method of EV training, there exist two other means. The first is to use vitamins. You may have collected HP Up, Protein, Carbos, and similar items during your gameplay; these items actually increase the EVs of a Pokemon by 10 in that stat. If you want to speed up EV training, it's often a good idea to use vitamins to give a substantial boost. Jolteon would make good use of Carbos, for example, since Carbos will boost a Pokemon's Speed EVs by 10 per use. Vitamins have a downside, however: they cannot be used if a Pokemon has 100 or more EVs in the stat the vitamin attempts to increase. Therefore, I may want to use ten Carbos to boost my Jolteon's Speed from 0 to 100 EVs, then manually EV train in Speed until it hits 255 (or whatever my desired Speed EV total is).

The second alternative to battling is to use the new Super Training mechanic in X and Y. Super Training is Game Freak's way of introducing how EVs work to the average Pokemon player in a casual way. I suspect, actually, that Super Training will be the default way to EV train from now on, since battling to EV train requires you to hunt down certain Pokemon for their EVs, and Super Training can be done at any time for any Pokemon. A tutorial is provided for the player upon first starting Super Training, so I won't go into specifics here, but I predict Super Training will be the easiest way to both EV train and keep track of the EVs you've gained. This second point is important to note, because before X and Y, the only way to know your Pokemon's EVs was to keep track manually, so having Super Training to give you a guide is very helpful.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 14:00:23
October 21 2013 13:57 GMT
#1479
WOW -_- so good game now who is kind enough to give me a noctowl or hoothoot with hyponosis??

female <3 plz
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 15:32:42
October 21 2013 15:23 GMT
#1480
To whoever is sending me trade requests, my network is having hiccups and I somehow can't accept. Send me a PM here and we can discuss what we're trading over here instead.

So, I'm actually farming a Ditto safari. If I take a Ditto to a judge, will he name all the IVs that have a 31 in 'em and say "they can't be beat"

So if I roll an all max Ditto he will say enumerate the 6 stats and say they can't be beat?

It looks like I'm about to get a box full of 2 stat maxes if that's the case.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
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