EPTaqua jet leaves you even more open so im being fairly generous at that
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
aqua jet leaves you even more open so im being fairly generous at that | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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rebdomine
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The BD set will work but requires you to build the team around him as opposed to having him be a complementary pokemon to whatever is your main sweeper. | ||
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
Snorlax also might be able to pull it off. He already has natural SpD bulk which will allow you to invest into his Def. And everyone seems to be trying out AV Goodra. Not sure if you're asking for purely in-game suggestions, but I've seen people run AV on Tornadus-T as he can pivot nicely what with access to U-Turn and Regenerator keeping him healthy. | ||
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FireSA
Australia555 Posts
They use similar moves, no? Both have fake out? Both have sucker punch, maybe? Kangashkan usually has EQ, mawile....no idea? And then mawile has fairy typing which is sick, and Kangashkan still has alright typing? Someone who is more knowledgeable than me on these guys please fill me in | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
On November 29 2013 13:14 FireSA wrote: Hmm re: VGC doubles team, really having a hard time deciding which mega I want, though pretty sure I want mega kangashkan or mega mawile, but I don't quite know the pros and cons of each, mainly because I don't know the stats, maybe. They use similar moves, no? Both have fake out? Both have sucker punch, maybe? Kangashkan usually has EQ, mawile....no idea? And then mawile has fairy typing which is sick, and Kangashkan still has alright typing? Someone who is more knowledgeable than me on these guys please fill me in Kang usually goes Return, Sucker Punch, Power Up Punch, Earthquake. She might be the better choice for Doubles as her PuPs are basically Swords Dance and Brick Break in a single move. She has a passable base 100 Speed. And he has good bulk too (105 HP, 100 on both defenses) and is thus incredibly hard to take down. She is able to take a hit and hit back really really hard. Her Normal typing also means fighting types are the only weakness she has. A bulky Togekiss with Follow Me should be able to sponge all hits aimed at Kang while he powers up with PuP and just roflstomps everyone later on with Helping Hand Returns. Mawile on the other hand has Huge Power. While his defenses are upgraded to passable bases (125, 95 Def and SpD respectively), he still has a paltry 50 base HP which kind of cripples him in that regard. He still can't really take a hit. He also still has base 50 speed so anything that can take a Sucker Punch will be able to dent him hard. Most common sets for Mawile are: Swords Dance, Sucker Punch, Play Rough, Iron Head. He has coverage options in the form of the fang moves. However, I do believe that set up moves in doubles aren't really that useful (as you risk taking two attacks). One of Mawile's doubles drawbacks is the weakness to Fire and Ground, the latter of which is a pretty common spread move in doubles (Earthquake). tl;dr Use Kang over Mawile unless you are going to run Trick Room. | ||
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FireSA
Australia555 Posts
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Trumpet
United States1936 Posts
 (Then again I dont play doubles, so that could be it) | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
showdown data suggests his most common moves are the ones I listed above, but Iron Head is probably the move easiest to replace with an appropriate coverage move for the team. If Mawile has trouble killing stuff with Sucker Punch, he's in a bit of a bind because of his base 50 HP and 50 Speed. He needs a bit of help in the setup department but he really dents a lot of stuff with +2 Sucker Punches. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
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rebdomine
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what was the point of making them available in the safari and not let them be in vgc. lol. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Pokémon which have been transferred from Generation V using Pokémon Bank are not allowed. You can breed these Pokémon to raise a new Pokémon, but you cannot use the Pokémon that were transferred. nmd reread section 9 | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
 need one of those 4 to finish my team (for free, have basically nothing to trade) [Mega-Venausaur, Vaporeon, Despotar, Dragonair, Garchomp] Zubat 31/x/31/x/31/31 Munchlax / Thick fat 31/x/31/x/31/x Torchic 31/x/x/31/x/31 Riolu 31/31/x/x/x/31 PM me if you have anyone of those to spare :D | ||
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
PM me if you want 4iv adamant Marills with HugePower and egg moves. I've got 6 females and 6 males. I'd like a female charmander, but really i'll take anything. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
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Ushio
Canada868 Posts
 . Rain dance/swift swim combo lets you put on the hurt and pretty much nothing will outspeed you outside of Choice Scarf Greninja or something. Also the constant healing on Tentacruel is bonkers. I've had the Mega Ampharos 6-0 teams, absolutely deadly.Modest Politoed 252 SpA 252 Spe Damp Rock/ Drizzle + Show Spoiler [Politoed] + ![[image loading]](http://media-cerulean.cursecdn.com/avatars/thumbnails/275/899/215/199/186.png) Hydro Pump/ Perish Song/ Psychic/ Ice BeamCareful Tentacruel 252 HP 252 SpD Leftovers/ Rain Dish + Show Spoiler [Tentacruel] + ![[image loading]](http://media-cerulean.cursecdn.com/avatars/thumbnails/275/108/215/199/73.png) Aqua Ring/ Toxic/ Venoshock/ Rapid SpinModest Kingdra 252 SpA 252 Spe Life Orb/ Swift Swim + Show Spoiler [Kingdra] + ![[image loading]](http://media-cerulean.cursecdn.com/avatars/thumbnails/276/375/215/199/230.png) Flash Cannon/ Draco Meteor/ Surf/ Signal BeamJolly Kabutops 252 Atk 252 Spe Focus Sash/Swift Swim + Show Spoiler [Kabutops] + ![[image loading]](http://media-cerulean.cursecdn.com/avatars/thumbnails/275/584/215/199/141.png) Swords Dance/ Aerial Ace/ Stone Edge/ WaterfallModest Ampharos 252 SpA 252 Spe Ampharosite/ Static + Show Spoiler [Ampharos] + ![[image loading]](http://media-cerulean.cursecdn.com/avatars/thumbnails/275/864/215/199/181.png) Thunderbolt/ Dragon Pulse/ Focus Blast/ AgilityImpish Ferrothorn 252 HP 252 Def Rocky Helmet/ Iron Barbs + Show Spoiler [ Ferrothorn] + ![[image loading]](http://media-cerulean.cursecdn.com/avatars/thumbnails/279/293/215/199/598.png) Stealth Rock/ Thunder Wave/ Spikes/ Power Whip | ||
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
On November 29 2013 23:53 Drazerk wrote: I thought Kalos native just meant it had that pyramid thing next the the pokemon meaning you bred it in game not just ported it over so Togekiss is legal. Pokémon which have been transferred from Generation V using Pokémon Bank are not allowed. You can breed these Pokémon to raise a new Pokémon, but you cannot use the Pokémon that were transferred. nmd reread section 9 The rules state it needs to be in the Kalos Dex, which is different than Kalos native. The blue pentagon thing indicates it is Kalos native / "okay to play" (bred / caught) | ||
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