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Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 06:57:20
December 02 2013 06:56 GMT
#3121
I would rare candy one to 20 just to double check the stats at 20. Save before, then reset after finding out.

Then I suppose you can do EV training (vitamins) in def to get them equivalent, which you then use a reset bag after evolution.

at 20... it should be 20 evs per stat point I believe. I would just vitamin up what you need at 19. I don't think they will vary by a whole lot, so a handful of Irons should do the trick.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
December 02 2013 11:44 GMT
#3122
On December 02 2013 13:31 Fortissimo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 07:04 Trumpet wrote:
On December 02 2013 01:46 Fortissimo wrote:
So by luck I ended up finishing my Beldum Project about 10 eggs after asking for help. On the other hand, I right now have 14 4 IV beldums of various spreads for trade. I also have 13 Togepis with 4 IVs.

If anyone wants I'm looking for good spreads on the following:

Bagon with HA
Venipede with HA
Ferroseed with Stealth Rock

if u don't have any of these but are still interested, let me know what u have cause I might find something I like.


I wont be able to trade tonight but save me a togepi and I'll give you a ferro with SR / LS / Spikes!


Will do here is my FC (2449-4851-5250)



awesome, added you. My FC is 3239 3651 8892, in game name is Trumpet as well. Any preference on male / female? I have a slightly better male than female, but I can just give you both if you're gonna try to breed for a perfect one

Playing on showdown a lot more now. Damn I hate trick rotoms.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 12:28:58
December 02 2013 12:23 GMT
#3123
On December 02 2013 20:44 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 13:31 Fortissimo wrote:
On December 02 2013 07:04 Trumpet wrote:
On December 02 2013 01:46 Fortissimo wrote:
So by luck I ended up finishing my Beldum Project about 10 eggs after asking for help. On the other hand, I right now have 14 4 IV beldums of various spreads for trade. I also have 13 Togepis with 4 IVs.

If anyone wants I'm looking for good spreads on the following:

Bagon with HA
Venipede with HA
Ferroseed with Stealth Rock

if u don't have any of these but are still interested, let me know what u have cause I might find something I like.


I wont be able to trade tonight but save me a togepi and I'll give you a ferro with SR / LS / Spikes!


Will do here is my FC (2449-4851-5250)



awesome, added you. My FC is 3239 3651 8892, in game name is Trumpet as well. Any preference on male / female? I have a slightly better male than female, but I can just give you both if you're gonna try to breed for a perfect one

Playing on showdown a lot more now. Damn I hate trick rotoms.


Try this out vs Trick Rotoms: Black Sludge Roserade.

He actually doesn't mind getting the Scarf they probably carry. And Rotom will get hurt by the Black Sludge.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 13:00:02
December 02 2013 12:56 GMT
#3124
On December 02 2013 21:23 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 20:44 Trumpet wrote:
On December 02 2013 13:31 Fortissimo wrote:
On December 02 2013 07:04 Trumpet wrote:
On December 02 2013 01:46 Fortissimo wrote:
So by luck I ended up finishing my Beldum Project about 10 eggs after asking for help. On the other hand, I right now have 14 4 IV beldums of various spreads for trade. I also have 13 Togepis with 4 IVs.

If anyone wants I'm looking for good spreads on the following:

Bagon with HA
Venipede with HA
Ferroseed with Stealth Rock

if u don't have any of these but are still interested, let me know what u have cause I might find something I like.


I wont be able to trade tonight but save me a togepi and I'll give you a ferro with SR / LS / Spikes!


Will do here is my FC (2449-4851-5250)



awesome, added you. My FC is 3239 3651 8892, in game name is Trumpet as well. Any preference on male / female? I have a slightly better male than female, but I can just give you both if you're gonna try to breed for a perfect one

Playing on showdown a lot more now. Damn I hate trick rotoms.


Try this out vs Trick Rotoms: Black Sludge Roserade.

He actually doesn't mind getting the Scarf they probably carry. And Rotom will get hurt by the Black Sludge.


Hmmm that's a neat idea. I've usually been switching into my assault vest donphan so they lose rest/WoW now that I'm not so shocked by it. It just wrecked me the first time I saw it and my poor blissey got scarfed. What type of set / role does roserade usually run? I love trying new pokemon! :D


+ Show Spoiler [My current team for reference] +

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Aromatherapy
- Soft-Boiled
- Toxic
- Flamethrower

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Roost
- Brave Bird
- Whirlwind

Mawile @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Fire Fang
- Swords Dance
- Play Rough
- Sucker Punch

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Atk / 156 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Flamethrower
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Crunch

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Scald
- Taunt
- Spikes
- Ice Beam

Donphan @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
Careful Nature
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Rapid Spin
- Stone Edge
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 13:41:25
December 02 2013 13:33 GMT
#3125
Something like this in general should be good:

Roserade @ Life Orb/Black Sludge
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm/Energy Ball/Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Shadow Ball/Extrasensory/Hidden Power[Fire]/Hidden Power[Ice]
- Sleep Powder/Rest

Leaf Storm off of 125 base SpA is going to hurt a lot. Sludge Bomb for poison STAB helps to deal with other grass types + fairies.

Ghost is a great attacking move this gen and is probably worth using as your 3rd attacking move. Extrasensory helps to deal with opposing poison types. Hidden Power Fire helps to deal with Ferrothorn, HP Ice helps with Gliscor and Landorus and dragons.

Natural Cure + Rest gives him a lot of longevity if you wanna go that route and he can actually hit pretty hard. While he can also put stuff to Sleep if you wanna go hyper offense instead.

If you wanna work with having Blissey for cleric, the guy also has Technician to work with. And with his base 125 SpA, he can abuse those 90 BP Hidden Powers more than anyone. If you are going Technician though, put Magical Leaf over Leaf Storm as it never misses and becomes 135 BP after the Technician buff and STAB.

Roserade also has a surprisingly healthy amount of status moves if you wanted to give it more of a utility role. Roserade has access to Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Sleep Powder, Stun Spore, Leech Seed.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
December 02 2013 14:28 GMT
#3126
On December 02 2013 22:33 rebdomine wrote:
Something like this in general should be good:

Roserade @ Life Orb/Black Sludge
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm/Energy Ball/Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Shadow Ball/Extrasensory/Hidden Power[Fire]/Hidden Power[Ice]
- Sleep Powder/Rest

Leaf Storm off of 125 base SpA is going to hurt a lot. Sludge Bomb for poison STAB helps to deal with other grass types + fairies.

Ghost is a great attacking move this gen and is probably worth using as your 3rd attacking move. Extrasensory helps to deal with opposing poison types. Hidden Power Fire helps to deal with Ferrothorn, HP Ice helps with Gliscor and Landorus and dragons.

Natural Cure + Rest gives him a lot of longevity if you wanna go that route and he can actually hit pretty hard. While he can also put stuff to Sleep if you wanna go hyper offense instead.

If you wanna work with having Blissey for cleric, the guy also has Technician to work with. And with his base 125 SpA, he can abuse those 90 BP Hidden Powers more than anyone. If you are going Technician though, put Magical Leaf over Leaf Storm as it never misses and becomes 135 BP after the Technician buff and STAB.

Roserade also has a surprisingly healthy amount of status moves if you wanted to give it more of a utility role. Roserade has access to Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Sleep Powder, Stun Spore, Leech Seed.


Wow, this is super helpful, thanks!! The set on smogon was a specially defensive one, but I kinda like your idea of an offensive one more. Will likely try swapping greninja for it. Time to start breeding
Fortissimo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada145 Posts
December 02 2013 16:02 GMT
#3127
On December 02 2013 20:44 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 13:31 Fortissimo wrote:
On December 02 2013 07:04 Trumpet wrote:
On December 02 2013 01:46 Fortissimo wrote:
So by luck I ended up finishing my Beldum Project about 10 eggs after asking for help. On the other hand, I right now have 14 4 IV beldums of various spreads for trade. I also have 13 Togepis with 4 IVs.

If anyone wants I'm looking for good spreads on the following:

Bagon with HA
Venipede with HA
Ferroseed with Stealth Rock

if u don't have any of these but are still interested, let me know what u have cause I might find something I like.


I wont be able to trade tonight but save me a togepi and I'll give you a ferro with SR / LS / Spikes!


Will do here is my FC (2449-4851-5250)



awesome, added you. My FC is 3239 3651 8892, in game name is Trumpet as well. Any preference on male / female? I have a slightly better male than female, but I can just give you both if you're gonna try to breed for a perfect one

Playing on showdown a lot more now. Damn I hate trick rotoms.


Well I am trying to go for a perfect one so I guess I could give a male and female pair as well. I will likely leave myself on starting around 6PM EST today
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 16:21:08
December 02 2013 16:19 GMT
#3128
Have starter's Male:female ratios been changed or am I just having terrible luck? Two full boxes so far of only male fennekins. zzzzzzz
edit: annnnd just as a say it i hatch a female... but with Blaze instead of Magician T_T
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
December 02 2013 16:49 GMT
#3129
On December 03 2013 01:19 Fishgle wrote:
Have starter's Male:female ratios been changed or am I just having terrible luck? Two full boxes so far of only male fennekins. zzzzzzz
edit: annnnd just as a say it i hatch a female... but with Blaze instead of Magician T_T


You have a 12% chance to get a female starter
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 02 2013 17:49 GMT
#3130
On December 03 2013 01:49 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 01:19 Fishgle wrote:
Have starter's Male:female ratios been changed or am I just having terrible luck? Two full boxes so far of only male fennekins. zzzzzzz
edit: annnnd just as a say it i hatch a female... but with Blaze instead of Magician T_T


You have a 12% chance to get a female starter

yah i know. my stats today are 70+ males and only 1 female. that's like 2% ;_; Arceus hates me
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 02 2013 17:56 GMT
#3131
On December 03 2013 02:49 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 01:49 BlitzerSC wrote:
On December 03 2013 01:19 Fishgle wrote:
Have starter's Male:female ratios been changed or am I just having terrible luck? Two full boxes so far of only male fennekins. zzzzzzz
edit: annnnd just as a say it i hatch a female... but with Blaze instead of Magician T_T


You have a 12% chance to get a female starter

yah i know. my stats today are 70+ males and only 1 female. that's like 2% ;_; Arceus hates me

Have you been sacrificing Lopunnys to him?

Only way to get perfect IVs / gender etc
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
December 02 2013 18:01 GMT
#3132
Fucking Magmar,, where art thou?
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
December 02 2013 18:07 GMT
#3133
On December 03 2013 02:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2013 02:49 Fishgle wrote:
On December 03 2013 01:49 BlitzerSC wrote:
On December 03 2013 01:19 Fishgle wrote:
Have starter's Male:female ratios been changed or am I just having terrible luck? Two full boxes so far of only male fennekins. zzzzzzz
edit: annnnd just as a say it i hatch a female... but with Blaze instead of Magician T_T


You have a 12% chance to get a female starter

yah i know. my stats today are 70+ males and only 1 female. that's like 2% ;_; Arceus hates me

Have you been sacrificing Lopunnys to him?

Only way to get perfect IVs / gender etc

With destiny knot and safari, perfect IVs are easy this gen. What I need is Power Bras and Power Boxers to guarantee genders.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 00:56:56
December 03 2013 00:55 GMT
#3134
Anyone have any criticisms on my current team?
+ Show Spoiler +

Smeargle @ Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Spore
- Baton Pass
- Shell Smash
- Magic Coat

Nidoking (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Earth Power
- Sludge Wave
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

Scizor @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Roost
- U-turn

Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp
- Substitute

Trevenant @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Harvest
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Spd / 120 Def
Impish Nature
- Shadow Claw
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Will-O-Wisp

Excadrill @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance


Smeargle lead, smashpass to Nidoking. If I'm playing against a hazard lead or what not I can Magic Coat to even out the hazards game since I don't really set any of my own. With +2 Nidoking pretty much 1hko's everything aha. If that fails I still have four solid Pokemon to back me up.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
December 03 2013 01:05 GMT
#3135
Your smeargle is missing 4 EVs
Jaedong :3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 03 2013 01:08 GMT
#3136
Personally I prefer air balloon on Excadrill but I think that is personal preference rather than viability (and its not as if you can't swap in Rotom)

I've been playing more ubers than OU this gen so i'm not sure if I can comment on the others. Just make sure you have something to stop a scarf Ditto with your own shell smash boost 6-0ing you
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 03 2013 01:50 GMT
#3137
+ Show Spoiler +
scizor
pursuit -> swords dance
you don't need pursuit on this team and swords lets scizor sweep lategame
consider leftovers -> iron plate / scizorite
iron plate lets him bluff band, and scizorite buffs his defensive stats for easier setup

rotom-w
substitute -> volt switch
volt switch lets rotom-w build momentum for your team
consider thunderbolt -> pain split
tbolt has its uses but pain split is really good with rotom-w's low hp pool
consider 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk Calm -> 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA Bold
defensive rotom checks a lot of relevant threats like talonflame, azumarill, and aegislash. SpD is ok too but imo not as good

trevenant
why 136 Spe? you can outspeed wobb and skarm but that doesn't really accomplish anything. 76 outspeeds uninvested scizor/ttar and 84 outspeeds 8 Spe scizor
consider shadow claw -> rock slide to deal with talonflame and volcarona

excadrill
252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef -> 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
252 Spe lets excadrill outspeed a lot of threats, most notably rotom-w and opposing excadrill. also adamant gyarados, swords scizor, smeargle, etc
consider leftovers -> air balloon or life orb

smashpass is a little gimmicky though; overall your team is pretty slow so if smash pass fails you're pretty screwed. for example talonflame and volcarona both sweep through your team pretty easily, especially since you don't have rocks
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 01:52:22
December 03 2013 01:50 GMT
#3138
On December 03 2013 10:05 ReketSomething wrote:
Your smeargle is missing 4 EVs


Aha thanks, I went and threw them into def or something.

On December 03 2013 10:08 Drazerk wrote:
Personally I prefer air balloon on Excadrill but I think that is personal preference rather than viability (and its not as if you can't swap in Rotom)

I've been playing more ubers than OU this gen so i'm not sure if I can comment on the others. Just make sure you have something to stop a scarf Ditto with your own shell smash boost 6-0ing you


Yeah, either way works I think. I can try balloon for a bit, I've never really played it enough to get a good feel of it. Scarf Ditto can be handled by Rotom-W or Scizor depending on what move they lock in on. That's most likely going to be Ice Beam to take out my own Nidoking so I can switch to Rotom-W and Hydro Pump or if my Nidoking is low just let him die for the free switch.

@Dead9 I was already typing my post before I saw your response. Can't respond now but I'll read it over and then post.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
December 03 2013 03:45 GMT
#3139
It feels soooo good. After getting my perfect excadrill (still need to breed to get a make one though) I went on to Ampharos and that took like no time thanks to same egg group. I can't imagine what breeding must have been like before Knot. Btw, I have a shit ton of 4IV adament drilburs if anyone wants. I have no idea what I want, but could probably find use for anything. PM me if anyone wants, else I'm going to wonder trade them.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 03 2013 03:57 GMT
#3140
smeargle teams are generally weak since they are so predictable. I'd say smeargle becomes obsolete once you get to like... 1800-1900. Before that he is amazing though obviously, as are a lot of other gimmick pokemon.
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