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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
September 17 2014 17:28 GMT
#1521
On September 18 2014 01:35 Yurie wrote:
Nobody commented on the fact that DDR managed to do world conquest as Ryukyu? We commented on that it was almost done on last few pages but he finished a while ago. He also converted Rome, though lost global WC to a rebellion while doing it. :p

What everybody can learn from that run is that unless you play in the earliest versions before they patched away things or cheat it isn't worth the time as he did it. The colonize to abandon for monarchy points, over and over and over. Then mass recruiting and cancelling to get the event to trigger again. He thinks it was possible to do single tag WC that way if you plan and execute it better but has no interest in doing it. Seemed he forced himself to finish it at all.

Yeah I noticed he wasn't streaming Ryukyu often, to be honest it bored the heck out of me too after all the 'nukes' were exposed. He streams Europa more often now, and it seems to be more fun as well. I've never done a world conquest, because it seems really boring. I don't think I have even played a game until 1820... At a certain point the game stops being a challenging game and mostly becomes a luck/smart planning game.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-18 06:51:20
September 18 2014 06:50 GMT
#1522
anyone else think that trade companies might actually be modeled better via the CN mechanic?

it would make a more interesting mechanic than "here, have the entire trade idea group for free because you're western techgroup"
?
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-18 14:30:50
September 18 2014 14:30 GMT
#1523
Looking for suggestions on where to go with my current game, there are tons of possibilities.

My goal was to form Spain as Aragon and then become Emperor. It's 1640 and I've accomplished that. Iberia is entirely mine (Castile still exists, they're becoming huge in the New World since their capital is there, Portugal is an African minor now), and I own the southern half of Italy and a strip of France that connects me to the HRE. Southern France belongs to my vassal Foix.

Four of the Electors are my vassals, but my current heir is a woman, so I'm not sure what will happen when the King dies. What if I Proclaim Erbkaisertum before he dies?

Anyways, I could follow the Reconquista quests and take North Africa or start messing with the Ottos and Russians who are huge. Maybe try to join the colonial game real late, maybe by conquering New World Castile. Any other ideas?
I am the Town Medic.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12082 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-18 15:54:19
September 18 2014 15:52 GMT
#1524
On September 18 2014 15:50 419 wrote:
anyone else think that trade companies might actually be modeled better via the CN mechanic?

it would make a more interesting mechanic than "here, have the entire trade idea group for free because you're western techgroup"


As they keep removing a lot of the maluses from other tech groups the Western needs things to keep it easily strongest in the world.
O
n September 18 2014 23:30 Alzadar wrote:

Looking for suggestions on where to go with my current game, there are tons of possibilities.

Any other ideas?


Take over India. Either by the hard land road or bouncing on Africa.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11800 Posts
September 18 2014 16:38 GMT
#1525
On September 18 2014 23:30 Alzadar wrote:
Looking for suggestions on where to go with my current game, there are tons of possibilities.

My goal was to form Spain as Aragon and then become Emperor. It's 1640 and I've accomplished that. Iberia is entirely mine (Castile still exists, they're becoming huge in the New World since their capital is there, Portugal is an African minor now), and I own the southern half of Italy and a strip of France that connects me to the HRE. Southern France belongs to my vassal Foix.

Four of the Electors are my vassals, but my current heir is a woman, so I'm not sure what will happen when the King dies. What if I Proclaim Erbkaisertum before he dies?

Anyways, I could follow the Reconquista quests and take North Africa or start messing with the Ottos and Russians who are huge. Maybe try to join the colonial game real late, maybe by conquering New World Castile. Any other ideas?


Only independent male christian monarchs can become emperor. Thus, when there is an election and your monarch (or the heir if you are currently emperor and your own king dies) is female, you are not eligible.

I do not know if Erbkaisertum changes that. I think it does, but i am not a 100% sure.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 18 2014 16:50 GMT
#1526
Are you sure about that, what about Maria Theresa of Austria? I am sure that she had been emperor in my games once or twice
"Yeah buddy"
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 18 2014 16:55 GMT
#1527
I think that's a special event that Austria can get that allows her to become Empress.
I am the Town Medic.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
September 18 2014 17:11 GMT
#1528
breakup and vasselze the berber states. the last thing you want is to try to core them. Mare nostrum is a goal you could go for. going for india through the sinai is something else you could go for. I'm not so hot on the new world compared to the much better asian colonies you can make. You could go for china instead of india or just yollo on them both.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11800 Posts
September 18 2014 17:20 GMT
#1529
On September 19 2014 01:55 Alzadar wrote:
I think that's a special event that Austria can get that allows her to become Empress.


Exactly, Austria has a special event that can fire if a female Austrian heir would become Empress, removing the "male" part of the requirement forever.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 18 2014 17:32 GMT
#1530
Presumably Erbkaisertum would have a similar effect then.

The risk is if my King dies and then the new Emperor passes Erbkaisertum before I can retake the throne, would be a huge pain. I'll probably work on getting that passed before I do anything else too big.
I am the Town Medic.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 19 2014 14:29 GMT
#1531
zzzz exactly what I was worried about happened, King Johan died, Austria became Emperor, then moron France declared war on Austria even though I've crippled the French, Austria got huge IA for winning a defensive war and then passed Erbkaisertum.

I guess the natural follow-up to Spain is the Emperor is Ruina Imperii...
I am the Town Medic.
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
September 19 2014 15:30 GMT
#1532
Startet my first Ironman game now, playing as Austria. Got some smaller german states, including switzerland conquered, beat burgundy and got their southern provinces, passed 2 HRE reforms and got PU with bohemia, poland and hungary by 1550, I have to say ist going way smoother than expected for my first attempt. ATM im having Trouble after fighting a stupid defensive war vs France (spain called me in just after i had won my PU-wars und not rebuilt some Manpower yet, then they managed to get all of their and portugals troops trapped in Africa which left me and my also Manpower-broke allies to fight France and allies off on our own (got a peace deal but got a massive Standing army of like 18k right now, with 0 Manpower). Just waitng for that random 40k rebell army to appear out of nowhere and kill me :/
Any tips on how to recover in such a situation?
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 19 2014 15:51 GMT
#1533
In my experience the 1500s is the most important time to be incorporating a lot of mercenaries, manpower is tight and wars are won by slugging it out rather than Forced March slaughters (on a side note - this game is brutal! You catch an army too demoralized to fight, so you execute every last man). Wait for Spain and Portugal to do a tour of the Mediterranean, recover your manpower and then take on the French.

In my Aragon game I had to lose two wars to France before I beat them the third time. If you can see the war isn't going to go your way, just offer a quick peace and release some nation that you can just re-take later.
I am the Town Medic.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11800 Posts
September 19 2014 16:07 GMT
#1534
On September 20 2014 00:51 Alzadar wrote:
In my experience the 1500s is the most important time to be incorporating a lot of mercenaries, manpower is tight and wars are won by slugging it out rather than Forced March slaughters (on a side note - this game is brutal! You catch an army too demoralized to fight, so you execute every last man).


Not necessarily. This game is rather abstracted. For example, not all of the guys who "die" due to attrition are dead. Some of them might have deserted, become to crippled to fight and been sent home, or whatever. All that you know is that if you catch an army like that, you do something that means that they no longer fight you, and also don't return to their nations manpower pool. Maybe you put them into a camp someplace save. Maybe you sell them as slaves into the far east. Maybe you cut of their right hands and send them home. Maybe you talk sternly to them and convince them that fighting is bad, and they become a nice happy pacifistic village with nice happy villagers wherever you destroyed that army.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 19 2014 16:42 GMT
#1535
I wish they had made that a more visual mechanic then. When you wipe out an army some of it could go into a PoW counter, and then you could make difference decisions with them.

Keep them as forced labour: +x% production, +y revolt risk
Sell them as slaves: ducats, enemy hates you
Return them: relation boost with all neighbours, enemy gets manpower back
I am the Town Medic.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 19 2014 17:54 GMT
#1536
You probably need to go about 1000 years back in history if you want to use PoW as slaves in a European war. Pretty sure that European powers didn't use other Europeans as slaves.. Tho I guess some muslim slave trader events could be nice.

Anyways, the latest Dev Diary is out:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?801813-EU4-Art-of-War-Dev-Diary-5-Diplomacy-Catholics-and-Southeast-Asia-amp-Indonedia

They reformed and remade the catholic church and the curia system as well as some south east Asian provinces
"Yeah buddy"
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 19 2014 18:01 GMT
#1537
On September 20 2014 02:54 Ramong wrote:
You probably need to go about 1000 years back in history if you want to use PoW as slaves in a European war. Pretty sure that European powers didn't use other Europeans as slaves.. Tho I guess some muslim slave trader events could be nice.

Anyways, the latest Dev Diary is out:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?801813-EU4-Art-of-War-Dev-Diary-5-Diplomacy-Catholics-and-Southeast-Asia-amp-Indonedia

They reformed and remade the catholic church and the curia system as well as some south east Asian provinces



There are also 2 new provinces in Spain it seems, Soria and La Mancha are visible in 1 of their pictures
"Yeah buddy"
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 19 2014 20:50 GMT
#1538
That new Papal system looks awesome. Should hopefully make it more interesting to play as a catholic nation
EZ4ENCE
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
September 19 2014 21:41 GMT
#1539
that new Indochina area looks pretty nice
?
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 22 2014 20:20 GMT
#1540
So did anyone see the stream today ?

New provinces and countries in North and South America. Aztec, Zapotec and Maya made into 11 new nations, Inca split up as well. New Siberian countries, new caucasus countries.
So many new provinces all over the place
"Yeah buddy"
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