EPTGuess i'll see, though i really don't particularly care about it and won't be following it. xD
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
Guess i'll see, though i really don't particularly care about it and won't be following it. xD | ||
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Tarrius
United States37 Posts
Just because it has an Android system doesn't mean its only for playing Angry Birds on your big screen. How dense can you be... jeeze. This is all about cracking open the console market again so that small companies can get in there and make GREAT games. And for those saying that having a PC nullifies the need for one of these, I completely disagree. There are games that are just meant for a console, more than a keyboard and mouse on a computer. Legend of Zelda immediately comes to mind, I would rather play most adventure/action/rpg style games on a console than on a computer any day of the week. Also, if I can access twitch from the OUYA, then fuck yeah, it almost is worth the 99$ just for that. I hate having to lug my computer out into the living room every time I want to have friends over and watch Twitch on the big screen. This project is going to be amazing. | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
So focusing on indie developers, I have no faith in this console. If there are other features tho for non gaming, ie internet, then it may be interesting for entertainment in that regard | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
There doesn't seem to be any room for a console that plays games I can already play on my computer or phone. | ||
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jfourz
Ireland421 Posts
why do people donate to these scams | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On July 12 2012 18:06 jfourz wrote: oh boy can't wait to play shitty android and iphone games on a tv why do people donate to these scams because it won't be shitty android games / iphone games. why do ppl keep re-iterating their same false assumptions over and over again? nvm it's because they can't READ. | ||
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jfourz
Ireland421 Posts
On July 12 2012 18:11 Nizaris wrote: because it won't be shitty android games / iphone games. why do ppl keep re-iterating their same false assumptions over and over again? nvm it's because they can't READ. pretty sure i can read, here's what i read recently; the whole thing runs off a tegra 3. that is a current gen (read: already dated) processor for smart-phones and tablets do you need someone to draw the conclusion for you? | ||
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
what they were talking about is the fact that currently indie developers are pretty much restricted to making games for ios/android phones or the pc. making games for ps3/360 is nearly impossible. with this project indie devs could finally start making games for the living room, too. this is about people who'd enjoy sitting on the couch in the living room while playing their indie games instead of in front of their pcs. this is for the people who don't want to pay 60$/€ for every game and maybe regret it. yes there are workarounds other people have already mentioned, like connecting your pc to your tv, or hooking up your mobile phone with a ps3 controller etc. but none of these solutions are something game devs would focus on developing games for. however, these workarounds do show that there seems to be a demand that isn't covered yet. the epic success on kickstarter is also proof that there are indeed people interested in this, making it much easier to follow up with some investors, which would have been hard to do 2 days ago. | ||
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Chezus
Netherlands427 Posts
On July 12 2012 17:45 askTeivospy wrote: maybe I live in another world but indie games are really really bad (i make an exception for bastion tho, I'm sure there are others but overall the clear majority aren't actually fun or worth money) So focusing on indie developers, I have no faith in this console. If there are other features tho for non gaming, ie internet, then it may be interesting for entertainment in that regard In all honesty, you really cannot say that. Are the clear majority of AAA games worth their money (as in, the full 60 dollar price tag)? Absolutely not. This console is only making things better for indie developers. So at the very least, we're going to see a number of amazing games that wouldn't have been possible, otherwise. Also, the platform focuses on indie development, but is in no way excluding the possibility for AAA studios to develop games for it. Lastly, I have a feeling you've missed out on some pretty awesome indie games! So I'm just going to list them here, for your pleasure!  Go check out: Minecraft, Amnesia, Super Meat Boy, LIMBO, Plants vs Zombies, Jamestown, VVVVVV, and Terraria. There's a lot more, of course, but I highly recommend these.More on topic: Really looking forward to this console. Need to get my hands on a creditcard so I can order one :D. Also really looking forward to developing for this console. Looks pretty good. Too bad Tegra 3 doesn't support OpenGL 3.0, though. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8147 Posts
On July 12 2012 18:02 Probe1 wrote: I have no idea why I would buy one. I play games on my phone because I'm bored and not at home. If I was at home, with my console, I'd play games on my computer or existing consoles. There doesn't seem to be any room for a console that plays games I can already play on my computer or phone. I'm looking at it this way: When I have a friend over, its really not fun to play on the computer considering I only have one, so one of us needs to sit and watch the other. So what to do? We play on the console. My PS3 has a couple of nice multiplayer games, but every time we want to try something new, we have to dish out 65 bucks for a new game. With this console, theres potential for a huge free library as well as a huge one that is simply "cheap" as it will mostly be filled with indie games. Also, it can stream twitch.tv to my tv? *insert the overused "take my money!" meme* All this for under 100$ (+ 30 for an extra controller). I can't see how its not worth it. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Chezus
Netherlands427 Posts
On July 12 2012 18:23 jfourz wrote: pretty sure i can read, here's what i read recently; the whole thing runs off a tegra 3. that is a current gen (read: already dated) processor for smart-phones and tablets do you need someone to draw the conclusion for you? The Tegra 3 is a capable of more than Angry Birds. For example, check out the Nvidia demo on youtube here: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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jfourz
Ireland421 Posts
On July 12 2012 19:12 Chezus wrote: The Tegra 3 is a capable of more than Angry Birds. For example, check out the Nvidia demo on youtube here: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI-guAGGK3s uuuh do you know what a tech demo is? games are many orders of magnitude more complex. this demo gets to use the entire cpu to simulate one scene, which will never happen outside of a cutscene (which can be pre-rendered anyway). a particularly famous example of why tech demos are basically worthless in terms of showing what a video game will look like on that hardware is the "namco girl" from the ps2 tech demo + Show Spoiler + edit: spoilered youtube vid if you think that the people currently making games that run on tegra 3 are just not taking advantage of it's potential and the ouya will change all that, you are pretty delusional the only thing this piece of crap does is scam people who already own an android smartphone/tablet into buying another one instead of buying a hdmi hookup and a bluetooth controller | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On July 12 2012 17:45 askTeivospy wrote: maybe I live in another world but indie games are really really bad (i make an exception for bastion tho, I'm sure there are others but overall the clear majority aren't actually fun or worth money) So focusing on indie developers, I have no faith in this console. If there are other features tho for non gaming, ie internet, then it may be interesting for entertainment in that regard Magicka, Mount&Blade, Amnesia, Minecraft, Dungeon Defenders, LIMBO, ... there are tons of great indie games. However, for this console i see the typical problems: 1. Noone owns it because there are no games for it 2. Noone develops games for it because noone owns it 3. ??? 4. bankrupt | ||
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Chezus
Netherlands427 Posts
On July 12 2012 19:50 jfourz wrote: uuuh do you know what a tech demo is? games are many orders of magnitude more complex. this demo gets to use the entire cpu to simulate one scene, which will never happen outside of a cutscene (which can be pre-rendered anyway). a particularly famous example of why tech demos are basically worthless in terms of showing what a video game will look like on that hardware is the "namco girl" from the ps2 tech demo + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIyu4Aozwbw edit: spoilered youtube vid if you think that the people currently making games that run on tegra 3 are just not taking advantage of it's potential and the ouya will change all that, you are pretty delusional the only thing this piece of crap does is scam people who already own an android smartphone/tablet into buying another one instead of buying a hdmi hookup and a bluetooth controller You make some valid points. Tegra 3 has improved since the making of that vid, but your point still stands. However you can't honestly suggest that people buy bluetooth controllers for their tablets, just so they can play the few games that support/require it. A developer can't assume that players simply own a controller. Shaping the OUYA as an old-school console, rather than a hdmi hookup and bluetooth controller is actually a logical step if you think about it. It gives people that feeling of familiarity, and there's almost no hassle (don't have to plug stuff in each time, etc). Personally, I'm happy that there's a platform that is easilly accessible for indie developers for the TV with an old school controller. It leaves us with much more options, for specific controls. Not every game controls amazingly with keyboard + mouse or touch pad. Some games really require a controller. XBLA and PSN really aren't great alternatives. | ||
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Chezus
Netherlands427 Posts
On July 12 2012 19:57 Morfildur wrote: Magicka, Mount&Blade, Amnesia, Minecraft, Dungeon Defenders, LIMBO, ... there are tons of great indie games. However, for this console i see the typical problems: 1. Noone owns it because there are no games for it 2. Noone develops games for it because noone owns it 3. ??? 4. bankrupt Point two might not be as bad as you make it sound, because android games will be playable. But yeah, I share your concern. Which is exactly why we should hype it, and not be so pessimistic  | ||
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
How's it going to hold up to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#System_unit Low price doesn't make up for not being better than a 6 years older system with a ton of games. Big games like Tekken, FF big. Games that don't even have to try being good anymore to sell millions. It's nice and cute they make an independent platform, making games for XBOX or PS probably sucks hard with all the regulations Sony and Microsoft are potentially forcing on you, let alone licensing, but they'll still need to get some damn impressive games for it before i even consider buying one at par with getting an XBOX or PS. (i only have a PC and PS2) edit: and are they ONLY offering wireless controllers? What? Hey bro lets play X! Aw SHUCKS controllers not charged. Better wait an hour. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On July 12 2012 20:30 snow2.0 wrote: [...]Big games like Tekken, FF big. Games that don't even have to try being good anymore to sell millions.[...] how is that a good thing? | ||
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Azera
3800 Posts
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snow2.0
Germany2073 Posts
It sure is pretty good for Sonys pockets. And money that goes into PS games won't go into Ouya. Limited funds per person and stuff. There is no market until they make BIG BIG GAMES for this. | ||
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