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Passion
Profile Joined December 2003
Netherlands1486 Posts
August 13 2012 15:49 GMT
#281
On July 14 2012 04:33 9-BiT wrote:
In my opinion, this is no better than loading up steam and plugging your PC into your tv. Makes everything more difficult and expensive if you have to buy a separate consul.


Why the hell would you need Steam (at all).
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
August 13 2012 15:50 GMT
#282
On August 14 2012 00:30 Pandemona wrote:
Bit old i know but,Ouya raised $8.63million for their new console! Madness, from just donations, Android going to need to deliver big now.


Thats not donations, most of the people investing in their Kickstarter will get the console or more for the money they spent. Looking at the specs and price most likely they are selling it with loss to the people "donating" to them.

Can't see why I would want this when I can just keep pulling a HDMI cable from my PC to my TV in addition to owning other consoles.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
August 13 2012 16:46 GMT
#283
On August 14 2012 00:49 Passion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 04:33 9-BiT wrote:
In my opinion, this is no better than loading up steam and plugging your PC into your tv. Makes everything more difficult and expensive if you have to buy a separate consul.


Why the hell would you need Steam (at all).


Cheap games... tons of indie ones made by developers who are more interested in getting people to know their material than expecting them to pay for it... Isn't this essentially the same?

The main difference would seem to be the console-like controller. I love consoles and they're great for tv-plug-in, and imo computers are not. But I guess opinions vary a lot
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 13 2012 18:02 GMT
#284
On August 14 2012 00:50 Vaelone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 00:30 Pandemona wrote:
Bit old i know but,Ouya raised $8.63million for their new console! Madness, from just donations, Android going to need to deliver big now.


Thats not donations, most of the people investing in their Kickstarter will get the console or more for the money they spent. Looking at the specs and price most likely they are selling it with loss to the people "donating" to them.

Can't see why I would want this when I can just keep pulling a HDMI cable from my PC to my TV in addition to owning other consoles.

actually givens the specs they aren't likely to be making a loss but a profit, you don't seem to understand retail price != wholesale price for oems. Cost of parts for console and one controller probably falls around 60 bucks bump that up to how ever they are getting mass production done, at most i can see it costing them 90 bucks to make a console and ship it to where ever so at worse they are breaking even for the most part.

As far as why people woudl want this, i'm as stumped as you, you can just connect a laptop or a computer to your tv for very much same effect and slap down 20-40 bucks for a controller.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
September 29 2012 00:13 GMT
#285
So I just got the email to reserve username and all that. I am not sure if anyone else is interested, but as long as I have enough letters I am going to go with a "TL" tag at the front since this is the main handle I use for almost anything anymore. Any other founders interested in joining me, feel free. =)
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
December 28 2012 16:47 GMT
#286
I'm bumping the thread quite a bit, although there is now an unboxing video on Youtube for the developer version. They don't show much more than the insides of the console and a boot screen, but it's certainly more promising than just claims that there's a working prototype:



Despite all the skepticism, I want to get one just to mess around with it. The only other console I have available for homebrew development is the Wii, and that's staying at home T_T
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 17:01:10
December 28 2012 17:00 GMT
#287
I'm certainly waiting until they show something concrete. Unfortunately there isn't any real footage of what the end product will be. With all this money from their kickstarter project, I think it's only natural that it will be disappointing, but when the initial hype is over I'm willing to give this thing a shot.

Does anyone have any experience with the company? Are they perfectionists, like Blizzard How sure is the launch date or even the 99$?
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
December 28 2012 17:24 GMT
#288
On December 29 2012 02:00 peacenl wrote:
I'm certainly waiting until they show something concrete. Unfortunately there isn't any real footage of what the end product will be. With all this money from their kickstarter project, I think it's only natural that it will be disappointing, but when the initial hype is over I'm willing to give this thing a shot.

Does anyone have any experience with the company? Are they perfectionists, like Blizzard How sure is the launch date or even the 99$?


No experience, but I am one that has faith in their process. I know there were some issues developing this thing exactly how they wanted it, but they are moving along. I just got my confirmation email last week about my requested screen name and shipping address and all that jazz. They are still working, so we will just have to wait and see.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Efekkt
Profile Joined August 2012
United States68 Posts
December 28 2012 17:41 GMT
#289
To me this seems very unnecessary and gimped. Like others stated pc+hdmi cable+tv+controller=win.
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 19:33:07
December 28 2012 19:31 GMT
#290
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
December 28 2012 19:33 GMT
#291
On December 29 2012 04:31 peacenl wrote:
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.

Has anyone of you already pre-ordered one?


Just from the campaign, not the official pre-order from the site. I am not sure how that process is going to go. I figured for the KS campaign though, $100 was a fair price to check one out, even if it isn't that great.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
December 28 2012 19:36 GMT
#292
On December 29 2012 04:33 TheAmazombie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 04:31 peacenl wrote:
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.

Has anyone of you already pre-ordered one?


Just from the campaign, not the official pre-order from the site. I am not sure how that process is going to go. I figured for the KS campaign though, $100 was a fair price to check one out, even if it isn't that great.

I feel you, if anything you'd get a life time subscription to (partially) free to play indy games :D
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 19:41:24
December 28 2012 19:39 GMT
#293
On December 29 2012 04:31 peacenl wrote:
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.


i spend about 200-250 every 2 years for a pc upgrade and i have been able to play all pc games at max settings ever since 2005. Thanks to torrents and such i can also test any single player game i want for free, and after buying a 15$ gamepad i can play any NES/SNES/SEGA/N64/PS1 for free on my pc using roms(i pretty much only play games that i owned and bought as a kid so don't hate me retro gamer's!!)
savior did nothing wrong
nadafanboy42
Profile Joined August 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 19:47:26
December 28 2012 19:46 GMT
#294
On December 29 2012 04:31 peacenl wrote:
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.

No offense but I had to respond to this. For you and those specific gamers like you who want to play the genre's you play in the way you want to play them, for those people PC's are not a good investment. For gamers like me who do not care about having the best graphics and who do not care for the console gaming genres (shooters, platformers, etc) the PC is the only platform worth having. I have nothing against console gamers, but annoys me to see people act is if their type of gaming is the only type that exists or matters.
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peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
December 28 2012 19:51 GMT
#295
On December 29 2012 04:46 nadafanboy42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 04:31 peacenl wrote:
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.

No offense but I had to respond to this. For you and those specific gamers like you who want to play the genre's you play in the way you want to play them, for those people PC's are not a good investment. For gamers like me who do not care about having the best graphics and who do not care for the console gaming genres (shooters, platformers, etc) the PC is the only platform worth having. I have nothing against console gamers, but annoys me to see people act is if their type of gaming is the only type that exists or matters.

Don't get me wrong, I don't recommend anyone ditching their PC. Heck, I never had a game console in my 20 years of PC gaming. I just think it's wise to stop the rat race for the newest hardware and best performance, that's all. But truth be told, not everyone is in it for the ultimate graphics, not everyone wants or buys the best stuff out there, and I consider those outside the scope of my complaint
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 19:57:51
December 28 2012 19:53 GMT
#296
On December 29 2012 04:31 peacenl wrote:
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.


Thats not true. An 800 Euro PC that was built well 4 years ago still carries along fine today. 6 years if you just want to play things that look as good on the consoles since the consoles mostly just stick to 30 fps. Plus a PC offers productivity.

And graphically speaking. Developers have left the consoles a long time ago now.

You just have to have a well built PC.

Thats all this device even is. A small form PC platform designed for indy games. Which is a huge emerging market as the AAA title makers have been proving themselves unreliable over and over.
twitch.tv/medrea
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
December 28 2012 20:08 GMT
#297
I wish people wouldn't see this and say "Oh, it's some crappy Android-in-a-box console that nobody will play." I see it as more geared towards developers than gamers. The point of an "indie" console isn't to sell AAA titles and make billions of dollars from all the people who think Call of Duty is the nectar of heaven - there are already things for that. It's not even for PC gamers who love playing intense games with hardcore graphical engines and whatnot. It's for people who want to develop for an embedded system without paying bankloads of money for licensing fees and people who want to play those games. There's a huge difference between developing for a physical embedded platform and developing for PC while gluing controller support.

I'm hoping it'll surpass the Dreamcast in terms of homebrew development.
Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 21:40:18
December 28 2012 20:42 GMT
#298
On December 29 2012 04:31 peacenl wrote:
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.


I know that this kid has been rolled hard already, so I will just make one simple response - games are developed with current technology in mind. Most big budget titles have development times in excess of two years. Hence, as a general rule, if you buy a computer today, you have at least two years during which it is more than sufficient for anything you throw at it. Down the road, you simply upgrade the video card. So you, my friend, are very, very wrong, and really should refrain from making crap postings, particularly with an authoritative tone. At least add "in my uneducated option" in front.

As for the Ouya, I have always had the feeling that it started out as a scam, and that the ringleaders were hoping to make off with a few hundred grand like the ZionEyes peeps (may be same morons for all I know). Hopefully, this is not the case.
peacenl
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
550 Posts
December 28 2012 21:24 GMT
#299
On December 29 2012 05:42 Maxyim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 04:31 peacenl wrote:
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.


I know that this kid has been rolled hard already, so I will just make one simple response - games are developed with current technology in mind. Most big budget titles have development times in excess of two years. Hence, as a general rule, if you buy a computer today, you have at least two years during which it is more than sufficient for anything you throw at it. Down the road, you simply upgrade the video card. So you, my friend, are very, very wrong, and really should refrain from making crap postings, particularly with an authoritative tone. At least add "in my uneducated option" in front.

Kid? I just might be old enough to be your dad (remember, authoritative tone, last time I checked people used kid to belittle someone with an authoritative tone).

Crap postings? that escalated quickly didn't it, all of a sudden we started insulting each other?

Are you serious? You can disagree with me, but stay friendly? Is that so hard?
- One does not simply walk into a bar and start calling the shots.
- Failure doesn't mean you are a failure it just means you haven't succeeded yet.
Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 21:45:46
December 28 2012 21:42 GMT
#300
On December 29 2012 06:24 peacenl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2012 05:42 Maxyim wrote:
On December 29 2012 04:31 peacenl wrote:
Laptops and PC's are just not a good investment anymore, I.M.O., at least not for gaming. If you buy a decent PC now for 800 Euro, it won't be able to run games in good detail that are brought out the very next year, never mind the year after. A game console, where games are created for that specific default hardware configuration. It sounds a lot better to me, especially at that price.


I know that this kid has been rolled hard already, so I will just make one simple response - games are developed with current technology in mind. Most big budget titles have development times in excess of two years. Hence, as a general rule, if you buy a computer today, you have at least two years during which it is more than sufficient for anything you throw at it. Down the road, you simply upgrade the video card. So you, my friend, are very, very wrong, and really should refrain from making crap postings, particularly with an authoritative tone. At least add "in my uneducated option" in front.

Kid? I just might be old enough to be your dad (remember, authoritative tone, last time I checked people used kid to belittle someone with an authoritative tone).

Crap postings? that escalated quickly didn't it, all of a sudden we started insulting each other?

Are you serious? You can disagree with me, but stay friendly? Is that so hard?


Your posting was crap and full of misinformation. I apologize if I have offended you, but it is what it is. If you disagree, feel free to respond to the actual content of my post as opposed to strutting around with ruffled feathers.

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