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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 10 2013 19:18 KaiserJohan wrote: I thought the BAI in Empire was still broken, or did they release a patch recently? Angry Joes review sums up pretty much everything that is wrong with the game (except campaign UI): ROFL at the Dune music with the boat going through the sand. | ||
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qotsager
Germany585 Posts
edit: okay no clue whatsoever, worked fine on normal, but i swear varus tripped over something the first three times i tried. or i just got enormously unlucky. his batallion had lost a maximum of 5 men each time. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On September 10 2013 19:38 TSORG wrote: http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/87075-Where-is-the-2nd-patch-you-were-supposed-to-release-today?p=721491&viewfull=1#post721491 True or not that wouldn't be surprising nor the first time. It would take a lot of blind hate to believe the developers actually thought it was finished. But when you are pressured by those financing the game who understand more short term gains and statistics than game design, this is what happens. Or who knows, maybe it was just costing too much due to unrealistic goals and Sega wanted to be done financing it. However I would be worried about long term loss when you stab a long time established franchise like that. Especially for a mainly solo PC game where people will have no fear downloading it if they fear to be ripped off again, or simply not buying. But maybe they just think its a non issue and with patches/mods people will forget when the next release comes. What annoys the fuck out of me is that it looks a very easy thing to develop. Shogun 2 is a very fine game for most of it (miles away better than Rome 2 in polishing when released), especially with balance mods like Darthmod. Take the core of it (engine, agent system, agent trees, mods improvements, etc), new map, new units, change buildings/agents for something rome flavored, change naval battles and they would have been perfectly set since what people do not like about shogun is mostly the limited scope. I thought they were doing to do just that as I said a couple of months ago, seems they decided to rewrite a lot of stuff and it became a too colossal task to release in short time. | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
And the yakety sax HAHA Capture the flag just like in 272 BC... | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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TSORG
293 Posts
it all points to that, arcade style fast battles with capture the flag instead of tactical set ups. more special actions and less focus on formations etc pov camera and already experimenting with fps style control of siege equipment (so units will no doubt follow) more streamlined and stripped campaign. less buildings in the tech tree system optimization, aka a good pc is no longer needed. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9852 Posts
On September 11 2013 08:54 TSORG wrote: seems like theyre definitely are going into the direction of console release. it all points to that, arcade style fast battles with capture the flag instead of tactical set ups. more special actions and less focus on formations etc pov camera and already experimenting with fps style control of siege equipment (so units will no doubt follow) more streamlined and stripped campaign. less buildings in the tech tree system optimization, aka a good pc is no longer needed. As long as they keep modability in the PC versions then everything will be fine. That's even if it is gearing up for a console release. If they released this kind of mess on a console (huge parts of the game unfinished or completely unexplained so no-one knows what to do unless they played TW before) there would be no coming back from it. This game is already 10 times better with mods. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On September 11 2013 08:54 TSORG wrote: seems like theyre definitely are going into the direction of console release. it all points to that, arcade style fast battles with capture the flag instead of tactical set ups. more special actions and less focus on formations etc pov camera and already experimenting with fps style control of siege equipment (so units will no doubt follow) more streamlined and stripped campaign. less buildings in the tech tree system optimization, aka a good pc is no longer needed. Sorry but as much as I am disapointed by this release I really don't buy that explanation some try to put forward. The game is poorly polished and many features are missing or bad. For both consoles and PC. It isn't a Diablo 3 where everything was working smoothly but some stuff where designed with a console port, gamepad in mind, (like the 6 skills thing); it's a poorly optimized/polished game with lots of bugs, period. | ||
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
I guess the devs never used force march to notice how your computer slows down to a crawl because the game needs to render a simple, solid overlay to show range or noticed the fact that in most towns the AI has no effing clue how to navigate and ends up rushing its cavalry and skirmishers into a solid line of troops. - Sieges are a complete joke, when utilizing javelings only the front row can fire, the ai with or without siege equipment just stands there doing nothing or rushes the flag completely disregarding everything else. - The balancing of the units is non existant, legionaries can basically masacre 4-5 units of levy infantry, and im not talking one loses morale and causes a chain reaction like in some other total war games, they just chop them to pieces. - The battles are so fast there is no need for stamina, you either utilize the special ability (whip, frenzy etc) which drains stamina from 100% to 0 when the effect wears off or your troops are always fine. - My current VH rome campaign is basically just annoying, every single faction in the game is declaring war to me even though I haven't discovered their territory or they are on the other side of the map, the ai won't attack anywhere near I have a legion, instead it just kills my garrison and leaves (WTF?) Basically a game can have some flaws but this stuff is just popping up constantly, its not some rare occurrance, its what you would expect from a beta test, and that's exactly what they sold you. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Jindo
United States1305 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On September 11 2013 09:41 Doko wrote: This game screams "rushed" in every way. Its an insult to followers of the franchise. I feared this would be the case when they revealed it was going to be released Sept 3rd. Until then all I heard was shit like "we are in super pre-alpha" and that the game was practically just getting started and they planned on making it as epic as possible. Then they dropped that it was coming out like 5 months earlier than anyone suspected it would come out. Bad sign... | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
Oh well, downloading Shogun 2 instead. | ||
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KezseN
Singapore1450 Posts
On September 11 2013 15:37 Tobberoth wrote: Wow this is probably the first time in history where I pirate a game and decide not to install it because of what people are saying... I liked Rome TW a lot, but this just sounds terrible. Oh well, downloading Shogun 2 instead. SHAMEFUR DISHPRAY | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
On September 11 2013 16:39 stormtemplar wrote: I don't know why but that always makes me laugh. I think that the game in its current state is pretty bad, but they've shown a commitment to improving it. It seems to me that it is entirely possible that CA wasn't ready to release and were forced by monetary concerns. It's not like Valve or Blizzard that produce tons of constant cash flow via Steam and WoW and can afford to say "Okay, this is totally not ready yet. We need to spend six more months fixing stuff." I think that there is a good chance that after all is said and done this game could be really fun. Best thing about shogun - when my men break and flee like cowards I'm not even slightly annoyed. I just think "Shamefur dishpraay!" and it's all cool. | ||
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aXa
France748 Posts
On September 11 2013 17:03 Arevall wrote: Best thing about shogun - when my men break and flee like cowards I'm not even slightly annoyed. I just think "Shamefur dishpraay!" and it's all cool. Damn, I wish I playd the game in english instead of french, because I have no idea how it sounds now  | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22406 Posts
On September 11 2013 17:32 aXa wrote: Damn, I wish I playd the game in english instead of french, because I have no idea how it sounds now | ||
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aXa
France748 Posts
Ahahahahahahahahah | ||
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