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TokO
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway577 Posts
September 10 2013 01:17 GMT
#1321
On September 10 2013 06:25 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 04:45 TokO wrote:
The game gives you a limited amount of armies\fleets, and you want to remove that limit. In terms of that mechanic, that is a 180 degree turn.

Don't they get auto-wiped on second defeat in Rome 2? Also, after you bring down the last settlement, the enemy armies stop regenerating.

Dunno about Shogun 2, I had 1 province nations spawn stacks in the fog of war, and he could get like 5-6 stacks, at least in this game it's limited to 3 xD At least in my experience, they aren't fielding 3 fully top shape armies, but rather primarily massed low-tier.

Anyway, I think it is a good thing that the people you are at war with, are trying to the best of their abilities to act like assholes towards you.

You should be able to have small internal policing armies though. In real life, not every army had a crack general. Large powers would have plenty of small forces maintaining internal defense. You shouldn't have 1-man armies besieging whole cities or blockading ports, that's stupid. You also shouldn't be forced to turn a real army around to clean up BS like that.

To be honest, it doesn't really make sense that you can't have some no-name captain lead a small force on patrol. Maybe limit the size of his force, but it should still be possible.


You can right click with a settlement to force away blockading\besieging straggler groups with garrison though. That and use of agents is supposed to represent this internal policing army.
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 01:27:45
September 10 2013 01:25 GMT
#1322
Is there any resource resembling TL.net for Rome 2? Or good site for strategy guide/explaining the game? I'm at a loss about what many things do. For example, what does "+1 cunning" give exactly? I'm also clueless about family/politics in this game. Encyclopedia isn't very helpful tt, for cunning it said something along the lines of "instead of defeating opponents by force outsmart them".. thanks lol, at least it didn't give me the dictionary definition
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
September 10 2013 01:27 GMT
#1323
This game has disappointed more than even Empire total war did. I really wanted to like this game. Even though I didn't enjoy the first few hours at all I still kept playing. But I cannot lie to myself anymore. Ah well
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 10 2013 01:46 GMT
#1324
I'm having a lot of fun. Ongoing Suebi and Athens singleplayer campaigns and Sparta/Rome co-op campaign.
The game needs patching to be sure and I trust CA to do it.
KTY
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 01:51:37
September 10 2013 01:50 GMT
#1325
On September 10 2013 10:25 iokke wrote:
Is there any resource resembling TL.net for Rome 2? Or good site for strategy guide/explaining the game? I'm at a loss about what many things do. For example, what does "+1 cunning" give exactly? I'm also clueless about family/politics in this game. Encyclopedia isn't very helpful tt, for cunning it said something along the lines of "instead of defeating opponents by force outsmart them".. thanks lol, at least it didn't give me the dictionary definition




Cunning = more crafty
For example the more cunning your general has, the quicker his unit's abilities recharge. Furthermore at 4 cunning he unlocks battle rhythm (make's a unit get stronger and stronger for a short time, after which they exhaust greatly)

Zeal = more brute force
Higher brute = units do more melee damage, and missile units do more upfront damage at all times
Higher brute also unlocks you more skills.

edit: This applies with agents too, similar concept.

Too lazy to explain it myself. Use twcenter.net
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
September 10 2013 02:00 GMT
#1326
Thanks, going from their description to units recharge abilities faster was a stretch thought it was more for political aspect of the game. I'll check that site out
Crop circles are Chuck Norris' way of telling the world that sometimes corn needs to lie the f*** down. rerereredit.. I never get it right the 1st time
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 10 2013 05:32 GMT
#1327
On September 10 2013 08:56 Kipsate wrote:
So do you need a NASA computer to run this properly?my computer automatically put it on very high and even at medium the framerate/performance is underwhelming to say the least.


Basically. I've seen the game run fairly smoothly on some YouTubers' channels, but they probably have a ton of money invested in their computers.

Regarding agent traits (zeal, cunning, and authority), I really like that addition to the game. It adds complexity without being nitpicky and infinitesimal.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Vaporeon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada68 Posts
September 10 2013 06:37 GMT
#1328
Finally got it! No Greek states yet, but that's not necessary for now
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
September 10 2013 07:12 GMT
#1329
On September 10 2013 10:27 darklordjac wrote:
This game has disappointed more than even Empire total war did. I really wanted to like this game. Even though I didn't enjoy the first few hours at all I still kept playing. But I cannot lie to myself anymore. Ah well


Agreed. After the awesome Shogun 2/FOTS, this is a huge dissapointment
England will fight to the last American
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
September 10 2013 09:07 GMT
#1330
On September 10 2013 16:12 KaiserJohan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 10:27 darklordjac wrote:
This game has disappointed more than even Empire total war did. I really wanted to like this game. Even though I didn't enjoy the first few hours at all I still kept playing. But I cannot lie to myself anymore. Ah well


Agreed. After the awesome Shogun 2/FOTS, this is a huge dissapointment


I have been replaying Empire - I genuinely think you should too. It blows Shogun 2 out of the water for many reasons. It's just incredible.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
September 10 2013 09:17 GMT
#1331
On September 10 2013 18:07 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 16:12 KaiserJohan wrote:
On September 10 2013 10:27 darklordjac wrote:
This game has disappointed more than even Empire total war did. I really wanted to like this game. Even though I didn't enjoy the first few hours at all I still kept playing. But I cannot lie to myself anymore. Ah well


Agreed. After the awesome Shogun 2/FOTS, this is a huge dissapointment


I have been replaying Empire - I genuinely think you should too. It blows Shogun 2 out of the water for many reasons. It's just incredible.

Well, never play Empire without the latest Darthmod
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
September 10 2013 09:33 GMT
#1332
On September 10 2013 18:17 TigerKarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 18:07 sc4k wrote:
On September 10 2013 16:12 KaiserJohan wrote:
On September 10 2013 10:27 darklordjac wrote:
This game has disappointed more than even Empire total war did. I really wanted to like this game. Even though I didn't enjoy the first few hours at all I still kept playing. But I cannot lie to myself anymore. Ah well


Agreed. After the awesome Shogun 2/FOTS, this is a huge dissapointment


I have been replaying Empire - I genuinely think you should too. It blows Shogun 2 out of the water for many reasons. It's just incredible.

Well, never play Empire without the latest Darthmod


Why? I've just been plasying it vanilla...massive game...massive possibilities, massive variety of units, runs smoothly and seamlessly on high settings. What does Darthmod do?
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
September 10 2013 10:18 GMT
#1333
I thought the BAI in Empire was still broken, or did they release a patch recently?

Angry Joes review sums up pretty much everything that is wrong with the game (except campaign UI):
England will fight to the last American
TSORG
Profile Joined September 2012
293 Posts
September 10 2013 10:38 GMT
#1334
Hello,

So i just finished a pretty long Skype chat with a friend of mine from and old mmo who coincidentally now works at SEGA. I'm not going to tell you who he is or what position he holds nor am I going to provide any verification of this claim in the form of progress reports, memos or any other kind of internal documentation as that is illegal.

What I will say to you is that he went into great detail on why Rome was released in the state it was in. The game was not ready and CA knew it was definately not even finished in the gameplay department. They had plans to implement all those missing features that caused the outcry: no family tree, guard mode, auto fire, unit formations. The game was completely rushed out in order to meet that deadline and I can tell you (again no proof of this but feel free to believe me or not) that there was a great deal of friction between the CA team and Sega.

It doesn't excuse the state of the game but at least I understand why the game is pretty much obviously half done. Also on the point of console port, he refused to comment so take that as you will.


http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/87075-Where-is-the-2nd-patch-you-were-supposed-to-release-today?p=721491&viewfull=1#post721491
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
September 10 2013 13:19 GMT
#1335
ah, there is no doubt that TW changed after Sega took over. I had an idea that it would be their influence which would lead to less perfected games coming out but was made to be optimistic once I got used to the change of style.

Funnily enough I absolutely despise Activision with every bone in my body but when they were publishers of TW (Shogun/ M1/ Rome) they obviously worked really well with CA and the games each included massive improvements. I remember when M2 was released I was very disappointed, there was a lot of flash graphics but the gameplay left me crestfallen. However looking back it was a good game and I enjoy replaying it, the same goes for Empire and Shogun 2. Nowadays Activision horrifically ruins any game it gets involved with and while I was confident that Sega would finally be giving CA the breathing space they required, it seems they have gone down the Activision route; and have decided to fuck shit up for the sake of releasing at a good time. Sigh!
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
September 10 2013 14:07 GMT
#1336
On September 10 2013 19:18 KaiserJohan wrote:
I thought the BAI in Empire was still broken, or did they release a patch recently?

Angry Joes review sums up pretty much everything that is wrong with the game (except campaign UI):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_QK-lcW8a8#t=577

this video is so hilarious and a sad at the same time
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
September 10 2013 14:21 GMT
#1337
I've no faith in Sega anymore. They've taken enough stupid decision in the last few years that I now expect them to screw things up as default.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
September 10 2013 14:34 GMT
#1338
On September 10 2013 22:19 sc4k wrote:
ah, there is no doubt that TW changed after Sega took over. I had an idea that it would be their influence which would lead to less perfected games coming out but was made to be optimistic once I got used to the change of style.

Funnily enough I absolutely despise Activision with every bone in my body but when they were publishers of TW (Shogun/ M1/ Rome) they obviously worked really well with CA and the games each included massive improvements. I remember when M2 was released I was very disappointed, there was a lot of flash graphics but the gameplay left me crestfallen. However looking back it was a good game and I enjoy replaying it, the same goes for Empire and Shogun 2. Nowadays Activision horrifically ruins any game it gets involved with and while I was confident that Sega would finally be giving CA the breathing space they required, it seems they have gone down the Activision route; and have decided to fuck shit up for the sake of releasing at a good time. Sigh!

Dunno, Alien Colonial Marines was a big hint ;P
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14137 Posts
September 10 2013 15:28 GMT
#1339
On September 10 2013 18:33 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 18:17 TigerKarl wrote:
On September 10 2013 18:07 sc4k wrote:
On September 10 2013 16:12 KaiserJohan wrote:
On September 10 2013 10:27 darklordjac wrote:
This game has disappointed more than even Empire total war did. I really wanted to like this game. Even though I didn't enjoy the first few hours at all I still kept playing. But I cannot lie to myself anymore. Ah well


Agreed. After the awesome Shogun 2/FOTS, this is a huge dissapointment


I have been replaying Empire - I genuinely think you should too. It blows Shogun 2 out of the water for many reasons. It's just incredible.

Well, never play Empire without the latest Darthmod


Why? I've just been plasying it vanilla...massive game...massive possibilities, massive variety of units, runs smoothly and seamlessly on high settings. What does Darthmod do?

it makes everything better. Better ai better units better mechanics and a ton of small mods rolled in like a really epic blood and smoke mod.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
September 10 2013 16:11 GMT
#1340
The angry review is so funny :D

I'm glad I didn't have the money to buy it on release...
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