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VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
July 18 2012 12:10 GMT
#1001
Is the ESPN fantasy league anything like the Yahoo! Sports one? Played in my first fantasy league last season with people from TL, which was awesome, but I need time to figure stuff out :D
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 18 2012 12:59 GMT
#1002
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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 13:24:33
July 18 2012 13:18 GMT
#1003
On July 18 2012 21:59 krndandaman wrote:
ugh im so tempted to post on this guy's status trashing jlin and how the knicks made an excellent and most logical decision but i haven't talked to the guy in 3 years and it'd be awkward.
i hate homers. such a pet peeve


Knicks will still be over the cap regardless, only thing that changes is the owner of the NBA's second most valuable team doesn't have to pay someone that is unquestionably worth it financially and arguably salvaged this entire season for the Knicks fanbase. It's always logical to lose a fan favorite and potential star player for no reason!

ESPECIALLY when you can sign world-class athletes at a fraction of the price. Excellent choice Jimmy!
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 18 2012 13:25 GMT
#1004
well they'd be even more over the cap and the luxury tax is by how much you're over afaik. I like how Stephen A. Smith who broke the news actually agreed with Dolan, ESPN "analysts" are qualified and know what they're talking about.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 13:41:25
July 18 2012 13:27 GMT
#1005
On July 18 2012 22:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
well they'd be even more over the cap and the luxury tax is by how much you're over afaik. I like how Stephen A. Smith who broke the news actually agreed with Dolan, ESPN "analysts" are qualified and know what they're talking about.


Why would a fan ever give a shit about how much the owner has to pay if it doesn't in any way affect the team's on-court performance? Give Amare's uninsured knees 5 years, $100M, Melo's strong playoff first round exits 3 years, $65M, BUT DRAW THE LINE with Jeremy Lin!!!

Chris Rock gets this right: http://twitter.com/chrisrock/status/225052794296610816
Jeremy linn I've never seen grown men hate on another mans money like this in my life .


I have a hard time believing that Stephen A. Smith or any of these other guys would be hating on a black athlete getting paid. Melo talking about "ridiculous contracts," lmfao.
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
July 18 2012 13:43 GMT
#1006
On July 18 2012 22:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
well they'd be even more over the cap and the luxury tax is by how much you're over afaik. I like how Stephen A. Smith who broke the news actually agreed with Dolan, ESPN "analysts" are qualified and know what they're talking about.

Smith hates Lin a lot , what else would you expect from that clown college?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 18 2012 13:55 GMT
#1007
seriously considering becoming a nets fan
Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
July 18 2012 14:37 GMT
#1008
On July 18 2012 22:55 zulu_nation8 wrote:
seriously considering becoming a nets fan


You might as well. Knicks will continue to suck with Dolan running things.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 14:59:25
July 18 2012 14:48 GMT
#1009
I agree about on-court performance being the main factor for fans. People don't care about the business end of it or how much the team is paying, people just care about who is out on the court. With that said, this is prob one of the first major moves that has come under effect from the new CBA. It essentially did its job in this case.

edit: talking about Knicks not matching ofc
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
July 18 2012 14:54 GMT
#1010
d12 story getting pretty lame

magic
nets
rockets
and now lakers

accept the damn trade already
starleague forever
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 18 2012 15:59 GMT
#1011
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
July 18 2012 18:12 GMT
#1012
Happy for Houston, happy for Lin, and sad for Knicks fans. I can only come up with two reasons why the Knicks didn't match the offer: (1) bitter Dolan let his pride/emotions/etc. get the best of him and let him go out of spite, or (2) they didn't think Lin would be able to work within the Melo/Amare framework they've committed to. The first reason is inexcusable for the myriad of reasons that have been talked about by multiple sources already, and the second is just cementing the sad truth for Knicks fans that they are going to be stuck with the doomed experiment that the Melo/Amare pair-up is. I don't buy the whole "that third year was too expensive" argument because the Knicks are in win-now mode, Lin has already and will continue to more than make up for any salary he's paid with his status as a marketing superstar, and the Knicks had multiple possible outs to avoid that 3rd year if things didn't work out.
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Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
July 18 2012 18:27 GMT
#1013
What I don't get now is why the discussion of what kind of player JLin can be is resurfacing with all of this shit. I thought we had that discussion months ago, and the conclusion was hes got lots to grow but hes got potential. Not only that, people are starting to hint at questions to his ethics and motives? Wtf is this? Where is SA Smith pulling this shit out of where JLin has a big head and thinks hes the shit, so basically he wanted to say fuck you to NYK?
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
July 18 2012 18:31 GMT
#1014
Lin: "Honestly, I preferred New York"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/18/jeremy-lin-exclusive/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a0

good read
aka Sowelulol
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 18 2012 18:35 GMT
#1015
On July 18 2012 18:16 krndandaman wrote:
lol i love all the knicks fans on my facebook newsfeed (i live in new york) hating on jeremy lin. ridiculous
"wow jeremy after new york gave you your shot you pay it back like this?"
"lol he's too expensive and not worth it. good job knicks"
"lol felton and kidd are better than lin and CHEAPER so why would we get lin"
"thought lin was a humble guy, guess his ego got to him. with that much $ who wouldn't"

hahahha

Edit: anyone willing to start a league on ESPN? i'd do it but i've never done one before so...
i might just have to join a random public one ;(

hehe i kinda thought this:
well Lin is out of Knicks.. time to be a Houston fan!
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 18 2012 18:36 GMT
#1016
On July 19 2012 03:27 Creationism wrote:
What I don't get now is why the discussion of what kind of player JLin can be is resurfacing with all of this shit. I thought we had that discussion months ago, and the conclusion was hes got lots to grow but hes got potential. Not only that, people are starting to hint at questions to his ethics and motives? Wtf is this? Where is SA Smith pulling this shit out of where JLin has a big head and thinks hes the shit, so basically he wanted to say fuck you to NYK?


It's Stephen A Smith. Sometimes he has comes up with insane things to say about athletes.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 18:43:04
July 18 2012 18:39 GMT
#1017
so dumb, young athletes have a few years, to make as much as they can, lin has been bounced around getting waived left and right, and FINALLY got a break, of COURSE he wants the best contract, but why didn't NYK re-sign him before free-agency? THEY TOLD HIM to go get an offer sheet since they had the bird-rights to match, and because he found a padded contract with HOU (sorry, kid wanted to get some money for the first time in his LIFE) and Dolan says, NOPE. 25 mill? Hell no, 8 mill a year?

good job dolan, i'm not even a knicks fan but i feel bad for them, from all of the terrible huge contracts they've signed in the past, to now they're attemp at their own 'big 3' they just gave up someone who invigorated their franchise, increased their sales and viewership by a ton during his non-injured month, and showed nothing but class and love for the city and the team when he was on it. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Good luck with a drunken old guy (sorry jkidd, i love you in fantasy but srsly?) and a fat ass (see TieN's post above). not that it matters, since melo will just do iso's all day with the ball.

Tommy Beer lays out it pretty much for everyone:
http://www.hoopsworld.com/knicks-lose-lin-get-nothing-in-return

the knicks didn't need to choose between anyone, it was jsut a matter of getting some $ that doesn't even free up cap space. They're committed through 2015, and now have no young star PG to help carry the weight. And who says you couldn't have at least traded him for something else, draft picks, expiring contracts, youth, veterans, trade exceptions. the more i read the more i am dumbfounded how people who i'm sure are very smart in whatever line of business they do to be owners of a sportsfranchise, can be so goddamned stupid. AND the blind anger for lin in the light of this.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 18:57:56
July 18 2012 18:40 GMT
#1018
lol thats ridiculous creationism, can you link me to source?
edit:I think no matter what the Knicks chose to do, they would have gotten some backlash for it tbh. maybe not as much, but the questions would still be there by people who question that ~40m he will cost that last year.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
July 18 2012 18:51 GMT
#1019
On July 19 2012 03:40 MassHysteria wrote:
lol thats ridiculous creationism, can you link me to source?

Seriously, especially if y ou read the SI.com link above, Lin was basically told to go to free agency, got ONE offer, was told not to compete in the playoffs, and now is being slammed as a money grubbing, entitled, lazy player who wasn't there for the team during the playoffs. Where was this talk when melo was out for months.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 19:15:42
July 18 2012 19:01 GMT
#1020
On July 19 2012 03:40 MassHysteria wrote:
lol thats ridiculous creationism, can you link me to source?

Trolling around nearly any Knicks fan forum will get you a shitload of 'fans' who espouse this theory.

'HE DIDNT PLAY IN THE PLAYOFFS AT 85%, SO FUCKING GUTLESS'

And lol: http://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2012/07/18/jeremy-lin-may-be-the-dumbest-harvard-grad-ever/2/

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