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On July 08 2012 10:03 semantics wrote:
does it matter at the end of the day it's about raw numbers and evo can't compete in that regaurd in terms of unique users and hours watched of content per user. Ie ad rev potential.
At the end of the day Evo and FGC are not about ad revenue potential.
It helps, but as a mean to help the community grow, not why the tournaments exist.
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On July 08 2012 10:22 VManOfMana wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 10:01 Warpticon wrote:On July 08 2012 09:52 VManOfMana wrote:
The point is that unlike Starcraft events, most people in fighting game tournaments, Evo included, are players who go to compete and play games in one way or another, rather than spectate. Even if a player is eliminated from their only tournament right away, there are casuals, side tournaments, and money matches happening the whole weekend. Even if you know you will get bodied, you go to compete, do the best you can, and become a better player.
The spectator-only crowd is very new to the FGC, to the point that "stream monsters" are not even considered to be real members of thr FGC. The main requirement to be a member if the community is to play the game, not watch. And players who do not play in some competitive form are generally looked down upon.
In fact, "stream monster" originally is a derogatory term. It was first applied to stream trolls that contributed nothing by not playing, yet polluted the stream chats with offensive and troll language. Therefore, the term implies "dead weight". Not entirely. The term stream monster came from a Team Spooky stream and was coined by Javits with Sabin assist to basically imply a stream variant on "pot monster." Where a pot monster is someone who donates to the pot but has no real chance of winning, a stream monster would be someone who watches but doesn't go to tournaments or play. Then Art, being Art, basically adopted it to mean just "people watching the stream" through constant usages. It was not really conceived as an insult for trolls, or even a serious insult, though. Interesting. Your explanation makes more sense given the laid back attitude of Team Spooky, but I have heard to "troll" version of the story more than once in tournament streams.
You know how usage evolves. As the audience got bigger, and stream chats got more ridiculous, people started connoting it more negatively. Art still just uses it to mean "people watching the stream." When he can't go to a tournament, he says something like "I'm just gonna stay home and be a stream monster."
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I hope a Claw doesn't end up winning Tournament of Legends, but MAO is really strong (and boring as hell). I'm not convinced any foreigner can beat him.
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at the end of the day vergil is op
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On July 08 2012 10:22 VManOfMana wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 10:03 semantics wrote:
does it matter at the end of the day it's about raw numbers and evo can't compete in that regaurd in terms of unique users and hours watched of content per user. Ie ad rev potential. At the end of the day Evo and FGC are not about ad revenue potential.
It's interesting how people coming from exclusively "eSports" perspective look at FGC events. For example, MLG's Dmaq compared Evo to slavery because of the small prize pools. This is not a league, it can barely be considered a business. All of these events happen because people in the community love the games.
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Fchamp's Dorm is so sick, I'd be an instant fan if he repped him instead of Phoenix.
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champ looking really strong. too bad we didnt get to see any new japanese tech
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Why can't Japanese players block Mags argh
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On July 08 2012 10:29 Redmark wrote:
Why can't Japanese players block Mags argh
Hm, maybe possibly because MVC2 was never that big in Japan? That'd be my first guess, or maybe not a lot of top players use Magneto in Japan. They do get kind of beat up by Magneto though lol
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watching jwong should be becuase i never expect him to lose, yet he still pulls off entertaining games.
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On July 08 2012 10:36 semantics wrote:
watching jwong should be becuase i never expect him to lose, yet he still pulls off entertaining games.
That guy seriously couldn't link two strider hits together the last game. Wong factor in full effect, I don't know how he does it.
Jeremy Lin coming up.
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Yo, I never saw OmgItzAndre played this Strider team before #Kappa
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On July 08 2012 10:29 Redmark wrote:
Why can't Japanese players block Mags argh
I've read some Japanese players saying that American Magnetos like Champ, Fanatiq, RayRay, etc. are on a completely different level from the ones in Japan, so if you're not used to fighting something, seeing it and adjusting to it on the fly can be quite difficult.
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On July 08 2012 10:26 TieN.nS) wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2012 10:22 VManOfMana wrote:On July 08 2012 10:03 semantics wrote:
does it matter at the end of the day it's about raw numbers and evo can't compete in that regaurd in terms of unique users and hours watched of content per user. Ie ad rev potential. At the end of the day Evo and FGC are not about ad revenue potential. It's interesting how people coming from exclusively "eSports" perspective look at FGC events. For example, MLG's Dmaq compared Evo to slavery because of the small prize pools. This is not a league, it can barely be considered a business. All of these events happen because people in the community love the games.
This is one of the main disconnects that some people at the top of pro gaming leagues and such have with the fighting game community: not realizing that it is primarily a player based scene and that offering bigger payouts for 0.01% of the player base is a poor selling point to the other 99.99%. Bigger prizes is fine, fancy production value is fine, but that can't be your all you're selling.
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haha wtf super sloppy match between Rizone and John Choi in ST Tournament of Legends
and apparently Sako got 0-3'd, must not have practiced at all
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EPT
