EVO 2012 - Page 91

On July 08 2012 09:52 VManOfMana wrote:
The point is that unlike Starcraft events, most people in fighting game tournaments, Evo included, are players who go to compete and play games in one way or another, rather than spectate. Even if a player is eliminated from their only tournament right away, there are casuals, side tournaments, and money matches happening the whole weekend. Even if you know you will get bodied, you go to compete, do the best you can, and become a better player.

The spectator-only crowd is very new to the FGC, to the point that "stream monsters" are not even considered to be real members of thr FGC. The main requirement to be a member if the community is to play the game, not watch. And players who do not play in some competitive form are generally looked down upon.

In fact, "stream monster" originally is a derogatory term. It was first applied to stream trolls that contributed nothing by not playing, yet polluted the stream chats with offensive and troll language. Therefore, the term implies "dead weight".

On July 08 2012 09:52 VManOfMana wrote:
The point is that unlike Starcraft events, most people in fighting game tournaments, Evo included, are players who go to compete and play games in one way or another, rather than spectate. Even if a player is eliminated from their only tournament right away, there are casuals, side tournaments, and money matches happening the whole weekend. Even if you know you will get bodied, you go to compete, do the best you can, and become a better player.

The spectator-only crowd is very new to the FGC, to the point that "stream monsters" are not even considered to be real members of thr FGC. The main requirement to be a member if the community is to play the game, not watch. And players who do not play in some competitive form are generally looked down upon.

In fact, "stream monster" originally is a derogatory term. It was first applied to stream trolls that contributed nothing by not playing, yet polluted the stream chats with offensive and troll language. Therefore, the term implies "dead weight".

On July 08 2012 09:52 VManOfMana wrote:
The point is that unlike Starcraft events, most people in fighting game tournaments, Evo included, are players who go to compete and play games in one way or another, rather than spectate. Even if a player is eliminated from their only tournament right away, there are casuals, side tournaments, and money matches happening the whole weekend. Even if you know you will get bodied, you go to compete, do the best you can, and become a better player.

The spectator-only crowd is very new to the FGC, to the point that "stream monsters" are not even considered to be real members of thr FGC. The main requirement to be a member if the community is to play the game, not watch. And players who do not play in some competitive form are generally looked down upon.

In fact, "stream monster" originally is a derogatory term. It was first applied to stream trolls that contributed nothing by not playing, yet polluted the stream chats with offensive and troll language. Therefore, the term implies "dead weight".

On July 08 2012 10:03 semantics wrote:
does it matter at the end of the day it's about raw numbers and evo can't compete in that regaurd in terms of unique users and hours watched of content per user. Ie ad rev potential.

On July 08 2012 10:01 Warpticon wrote:


Not entirely. The term stream monster came from a Team Spooky stream and was coined by Javits with Sabin assist to basically imply a stream variant on "pot monster." Where a pot monster is someone who donates to the pot but has no real chance of winning, a stream monster would be someone who watches but doesn't go to tournaments or play. Then Art, being Art, basically adopted it to mean just "people watching the stream" through constant usages. It was not really conceived as an insult for trolls, or even a serious insult, though.