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pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
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Quenchiest
Canada286 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:28 Excalibur_Z wrote: Humanbomb is the best player in Australia and it did not show in the Top 8 at all. It really did look like he was scared and not playing up to that standard. He was playing completely random, throwing out reckless fireballs and EX tatsus, and dropping even the easy links (the hardest link he landed was a 3-frame! s.lp c.mk). I was telling my friends before the matches that Adon and Balrog both give me problems and I'm hoping to see some cool secret tech, but instead he just got dominated. He would have been better off choosing Yang by far. Completely choked. I also would have liked to see the entire Top 8 be BO5, or at the very least, Winners' and Losers' Finals. Because of this (and the one-sidedness of most of the games), SF4 was one of the least hype games of the night. Top 8 was mostly a mess. You can't really predict the one sided matches, but most of the players up there just weren't playing up to their standard. PR Rog specifically stands out in my mind due to how many times he dropped the headbutt or even simple Balrog links. He's usually always on point. He had a few matches won if it wasn't for minor mistakes that ended up costing him. Some of the matchups didn't really help either. Dieminion drew an incredibly shitty matchup against Gamerbee. I knew it wasn't going to be pretty after seeing Justin blow him up as Adon in the past. I expected it to be a little more competitive though and not a quick 2-0. As for BO5 it's hard to say. It looked like it really needed it this year, though. Typically BO3's are fine, but with all the blowups it just seemed like SF4 was over in a flash. Either way a good EVO overall. A bit of an anticlimactic finish, but what can you do. It was going to be hard to live up to the MVC and KOF grand finals anyway. | ||
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:28 Excalibur_Z wrote: Humanbomb is the best player in Australia and it did not show in the Top 8 at all. I have a very hard time believing that humanbomb is better than players like toxy or insomnia | ||
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pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:48 Wangsta wrote: I have a very hard time believing that humanbomb is better than players like toxy or insomnia Humanbomb was consistently beating Toxy in tournaments and has levelled up since he left australia a couple years ago to live in Hong Kong where he gets to play japanese players over xbox. Top 3 Australian Players would be Humanbomb (5th), Shang Tsung (17th), Robsux (Did not go). Toxy slightly below and Somniac a level below. Excal if you want to watch Sakura vs Rog watch these scrubs play a mm at the salty suite: | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12257 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:48 Wangsta wrote: I have a very hard time believing that humanbomb is better than players like toxy or insomnia He was when he was playing Yang/Fei, at least according to Goodpart (another pretty good Australian Fei). I don't know if he just choked on-stage as Sakura or hasn't fully figured her out yet or what. I didn't even know he played Sakura at all until Friday. | ||
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pachi
Melbourne5338 Posts
I lost to goodpart at SS after being sent to losers by dakou. i thought i was doing ok too  1-2 | ||
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ShoKakuUtena
United States304 Posts
Sakura as extremely strong vs. Seth, so Poongko was gonna have a hard time anyway against HumanBomb, but both HB & Poongko dropped so much stuff that match, so mistakes cost Seth a lot more in that matchup. I'm still really annoyed that Humanbomb got into Top 8 when he performed like someone that should've been eliminated in Top 32 Losers, not with that Sakura dropping links and crap. Uryo could've been the replacement but well his Viper counterpick against a practiced Dieminion was a bad choice. | ||
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Novalisk
Israel1818 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 09 2012 19:07 Looms wrote: Infil "just going to Raging Demon everyone" Tration More like Infil "gonna celebrate Donald X. Vaccarino's new game with an EVO win" tration! | ||
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ShoKakuUtena
United States304 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:57 pachi wrote: Humanbomb was consistently beating Toxy in tournaments and has levelled up since he left australia a couple years ago to live in Hong Kong where he gets to play japanese players over xbox. Top 3 Australian Players would be Humanbomb (5th), Shang Tsung (17th), Robsux (Did not go). Toxy slightly below and Somniac a level below. Excal if you want to watch Sakura vs Rog watch these scrubs play a mm at the salty suite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1YoA2M2CNI&feature=youtu.be I like HB's play much better here. Sakura still has amazing damage even if you don't do the 1 frames(ending with c.mk -> DP rather than going for tatsu links) that's pretty how much how I still do well with her when not using an arcade stick. It's really apparent that he is really inconsistent with those 1-frames, so I like that he kept it simple and immediately went to EX Tatsu for the launch and mixup or went for knockdowns to take advantage of Boxer's limited wake up options. | ||
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
And yeah Seth is a great matchup for sak. Seth gets like 100-200 damage off a correct guess while sak gets almost 50% hp off one guess even with no meter. It's very scary for Seth to commit to a srk or spd vs Sak when 2 bad guesses = stun = dead seth. Thats definitely why poongko was playing cautiously. Although, if I were poongko I wouldve abused teleport to get out of mixups because humanbomb clearly showed that he did not know how to OS properly | ||
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ShoKakuUtena
United States304 Posts
On July 10 2012 03:24 Wangsta wrote: I have to disagree, sagat is a very decent matchup for Sakura. Sak was great 3frame options that make sagats tiger knee pressure dangerous, and a safe 100% ambiguous jumpin mixup after a knockdown. Overall just great risk reward ratio for Sak. Honda might be 4.5-5.5 or 4-6 but not terrible. mike ross definitely has an issue with Sakura players though, based on my experience playing him And yeah Seth is a great matchup for sak. Seth gets like 100-200 damage off a correct guess while sak gets almost 50% hp off one guess even with no meter. It's very scary for Seth to commit to a srk or spd vs Sak when 2 bad guesses = stun = dead seth. Thats definitely why poongko was playing cautiously. Although, if I were poongko I wouldve abused teleport to get out of mixups because humanbomb clearly showed that he did not know how to OS properly oo It's awesome that we have players that played these pros on TL. :D I just know from my experiences that Sagat will usually beat me if he keeps me out and forces me to play a careful ground game. Once I get in and knock him down, it's usually 10x easier. I really wish there was VOD of Mike Ross playing Humanbomb & Uryo because it still does not make any sense why Mike would lose to Humanbomb but win 2-0 over Uryo, other than the fact that Mike is familiar with Uryo's playstyle to adapt. I wanna ask (if you watched Uryo play Dieminion), would've it been better for Uryo to stick with Sakura? The match is essentially the same as Sagat, in which the only way to play is to keep her out but once Guile gets knocked down, Sakura's mixup pressure gets to him. Viper is good against Guile, but I don't think Viper is a good idea as a counterpick in general, and Dieminion practices with Wolfkrone so he had the best practice. | ||
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
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Mitsuwa
United States793 Posts
On July 10 2012 02:43 pachi wrote: Humanbomb and a bunch of others played heaps at the salty suite if you are hungry for real sf4 matches http://www.twitch.tv/canadacup/ Thanks a lot pachi. I wasn't sure who was hosting them. e: any matches you'd recommend looking at first? | ||
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ShoKakuUtena
United States304 Posts
On July 10 2012 03:42 Wangsta wrote: Wasn't uryo playing viper? Yeah, he was but I wanted to know if you felt he should've just stayed with Sakura. I wouldn't think Uryo would counter pick as most of the Japanese (outside of Kindevu anyway) do not switch characters. Uryo's Viper (still got the whole 60% damage combos) is great, but Dieminion is way too familiar with Viper in general, just from seeing how Dieminion blocked nearly most of Uryo's burn kick cross up attempts. | ||
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Quenchiest
Canada286 Posts
On July 10 2012 03:47 ShoKakuUtena wrote: Yeah, he was but I wanted to know if you felt he should've just stayed with Sakura. I wouldn't think Uryo would counter pick as most of the Japanese (outside of Kindevu anyway) do not switch characters. Uryo's Viper (still got the whole 60% damage combos) is great, but Dieminion is way too familiar with Viper in general, just from seeing how Dieminion blocked nearly most of Uryo's burn kick cross up attempts. Dieminion plays against a decent Sakura pretty often in Chris G as well, so it's not like he would be unfamiliar with her. | ||
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
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Fatmatt2000
United States159 Posts
Perfect Legend - $23,000 Mortal Kombat 9 Filipino Champ - $15,000 Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 Fuudo - $15,000 for Sega’s Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown Mad KOF - $11,000 King of Fighters XIII Infiltration x Laugh - $9,000 Street Fighter X Tekken Shining Decopon - $5,000 Soul Calibur V Pretty sure thats correct. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12257 Posts
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
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