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zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 13:39:21
August 26 2013 13:23 GMT
#741
I'm an old FFXI player trying FFXIV for the first time, I have a couple of easy-to-answer questions, if anyone could help.

- I noticed elemental crystals for crafting are still in the game, and I got them as quest rewards. Anything similar to the "badge buffs" you get from guards to make them drop from mobs? Or now they are mostly quest rewards and that's it?

- What level do I unlock sub-jobs? What about the crafting jobs?

- What level should I consider healing Tam Tara (sp?) the first dungeon?

- Anything I should particulary keep in mind in early low lvl? Any can't-miss questline or just something that a new player should be aware of?

- Last one: Anyone in the Phoenix (EU) server? Any linkshells going? As a TL member should I have rolled elsewhere? How do I get to know my server's community? Official forums are kind of a wasteland.
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
yandere991
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia394 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 13:29:30
August 26 2013 13:28 GMT
#742
Does anyone have any idea how the send/receive things work? I am getting pretty big fluctuations but the game seems to settle on a stable 1-2sec delay.

Some people are saying the higher the better and some say lower. It's confusing.
Blackfish
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria309 Posts
August 26 2013 13:38 GMT
#743
Hey guys.
Just wanted to ask a question about pvp since the anwsers I found on the internet were a bit misleading.
Will there be a WoW style arena in FFXIV, 2v2/3v3 deathmatch type and such?
NaDa - my god | Mvp - my king | Innovation - my favorite | Terran- my race
vanskater
Profile Joined March 2010
United States146 Posts
August 26 2013 13:42 GMT
#744
On August 26 2013 22:23 zazen wrote:
I'm an old FFXI player trying FFXIV for the first time, I have a couple of easy-to-answer questions, if anyone could help.

- I noticed elemental crystals for crafting are still in the game, and I got them as quest rewards. Anything similar to the "badge buffs" you get from guards to make them drop from mobs? Or now they are mostly quest rewards and that's it?

- What level do I unlock sub-jobs? What about the crafting jobs?

- What level should I consider healing Tam Tara (sp?) the first dungeon?

- Anything I should particulary keep in mind in early low lvl? Any can't-miss questline or just something that a new player should be aware of?


1. No idea. sorry

2. you need your first class to level 10 before you can pick up another class. to unlock the jobs you need to have the right combo of two classes at the right level. with crafting i think all you need to do is put on the crafting gear.

3. not sure i assume somewhere around 17-18

4. have fun
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
August 26 2013 13:59 GMT
#745
On August 26 2013 22:42 vanskater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 22:23 zazen wrote:
I'm an old FFXI player trying FFXIV for the first time, I have a couple of easy-to-answer questions, if anyone could help.

- I noticed elemental crystals for crafting are still in the game, and I got them as quest rewards. Anything similar to the "badge buffs" you get from guards to make them drop from mobs? Or now they are mostly quest rewards and that's it?

- What level do I unlock sub-jobs? What about the crafting jobs?

- What level should I consider healing Tam Tara (sp?) the first dungeon?

- Anything I should particulary keep in mind in early low lvl? Any can't-miss questline or just something that a new player should be aware of?


1. No idea. sorry

2. you need your first class to level 10 before you can pick up another class. to unlock the jobs you need to have the right combo of two classes at the right level. with crafting i think all you need to do is put on the crafting gear.

3. not sure i assume somewhere around 17-18

4. have fun


1. I believe I have been picking up crystals off mobs. I have a lot more in my inventory now than what I have gotten from quest rewards.
3. I also heard lvl 17 is the minimum for the first dungeon
4. Finish your Hunting Log! Its excellent XP and you have to do them to unlock the next one.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
August 26 2013 15:11 GMT
#746
I feel bad for the people who get 1017 errors and server d/cs. I met a few people in-game and became friendly with them, but an hour or two doing hunting logs, my friends D/C'd and couldn't play until late at night. I was just smart enough to keep my computer active and never log off.

These are launch issues that we've always dealt with though, don't forget that as you guys go nuts. FFXIV is a pretty good game guys. If it caters to your taste then you will stick with it, if not then you won't, just like every other game.
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 16:02:48
August 26 2013 16:02 GMT
#747
On August 26 2013 22:23 zazen wrote:
I'm an old FFXI player trying FFXIV for the first time, I have a couple of easy-to-answer questions, if anyone could help.

- I noticed elemental crystals for crafting are still in the game, and I got them as quest rewards. Anything similar to the "badge buffs" you get from guards to make them drop from mobs? Or now they are mostly quest rewards and that's it?

- What level do I unlock sub-jobs? What about the crafting jobs?

- What level should I consider healing Tam Tara (sp?) the first dungeon?

- Anything I should particulary keep in mind in early low lvl? Any can't-miss questline or just something that a new player should be aware of?

- Last one: Anyone in the Phoenix (EU) server? Any linkshells going? As a TL member should I have rolled elsewhere? How do I get to know my server's community? Official forums are kind of a wasteland.



Been playing Phase 3 and Phase 4, so I can help.

1. You can get them off of gathering classes as well as questing, and I think levequests (the equivalent of daily quests) give them frequently too. Like botany for instance, you click on the thing you want to get out of the tree you are hacking away at, and you have like a 95% chance of being successful at getting certain crystals. Certain areas have different propensities to certain crystals as well, so you won't just be motivated to gather only in the Black Shroud for instance, you will have an incentive to diversify where you gather.

2. At level 30 you can do a class quest that requires a level 15 of another class to accept. It's not really sub-jobs in FFXIV, basically classes are Archer/marauder/pugilist/etc... Jobs are like Bard (Archer at 30 pugilist at 15 to do the quest, and can use the abilities from pugilist and lancer, as well as basically being an archer first).

3. The first few dungeons are easy, when you get the quest to go to them, do them as early as possible for more gains from the exp for doing them the first time.

4. One popular one people ask about that is fun is the dye quest. http://eorzeareborn.com/color-your-world-the-dye-quest-in-ffxivarr/

5. http://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVrecruitment - That's a really good place to find a free company (FFXIV's name for linkshells). Linkshells in FFXIV are basically invite only chat groups, Free company's are the equivalent to "guilds" with perks and guild banks etc...
srsly
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
August 26 2013 16:08 GMT
#748
On August 26 2013 22:38 Blackfish wrote:
Hey guys.
Just wanted to ask a question about pvp since the anwsers I found on the internet were a bit misleading.
Will there be a WoW style arena in FFXIV, 2v2/3v3 deathmatch type and such?


http://imgur.com/a/L8B6g

This is pretty much what we know so far.
srsly
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
August 26 2013 16:09 GMT
#749
On August 27 2013 00:11 Snuggles wrote:
I feel bad for the people who get 1017 errors and server d/cs. I met a few people in-game and became friendly with them, but an hour or two doing hunting logs, my friends D/C'd and couldn't play until late at night. I was just smart enough to keep my computer active and never log off.

These are launch issues that we've always dealt with though, don't forget that as you guys go nuts. FFXIV is a pretty good game guys. If it caters to your taste then you will stick with it, if not then you won't, just like every other game.


You don't even have to keep it active, there is no idle check, my girlfriend stayed logged in for 8 hours without touching the game.
srsly
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
August 26 2013 16:12 GMT
#750
On August 26 2013 22:18 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 18:59 GwSC wrote:
On August 26 2013 12:20 nota wrote:
Hit lvl 42 for black mage and just finished the lvl 41 instance Stone Vigil. The beginning instances are pretty
easy, although theyve been tuned better since the beta. The dungeons do become progressively harder.


How are you finding the combat system so far? Is it interesting or just a standard MMO 1-2 ability spam with the odd proc or instant mixed in?


At low levels this seems to be the case


Basically the game is balanced around at the end game 4-5 abilities as your core abilities to cycle properly, and there are multiple other abilities for situationals and reactionary (like if you dodge or a monster dodges for instance).

Conjurer was boring as heck until I did a few other quests, archer was always pretty fun because you can kite higher level mobs and try to challenge yourself with chain exp linking.
srsly
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
August 26 2013 16:26 GMT
#751
I bought the game when it was first released way back. Can I play the early access? Can I play at all?
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 16:31:30
August 26 2013 16:28 GMT
#752
On August 27 2013 01:26 TOCHMY wrote:
I bought the game when it was first released way back. Can I play the early access? Can I play at all?


If you bought FFXIV 1.0, then yes you don't have to buy ARR to play ARR. You will still have to pay subscription after like 14 days or something though.

Early access was for people that bought ARR or were Legacy players (1.0 players that paid for 90 days of subscription).

It's released tomorrow at 3AM MST (I'm from colorado sorry for the weird time zone), so you should be able to play then. Here's the download link.

http://gdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/inst/ffxivsetup.exe

I would download it now and start patching.
srsly
zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
August 26 2013 16:30 GMT
#753
Thanks for the excellent, helpful replies.
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
August 26 2013 16:33 GMT
#754
On August 27 2013 01:30 zazen wrote:
Thanks for the excellent, helpful replies.


No problem, SQ-EX really outdid themselves on this much needed apology of a game, and I just want more people to play it and have fun playing it.
srsly
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
August 26 2013 16:48 GMT
#755
On August 27 2013 01:12 Aberu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 22:18 KillerSOS wrote:
On August 26 2013 18:59 GwSC wrote:
On August 26 2013 12:20 nota wrote:
Hit lvl 42 for black mage and just finished the lvl 41 instance Stone Vigil. The beginning instances are pretty
easy, although theyve been tuned better since the beta. The dungeons do become progressively harder.


How are you finding the combat system so far? Is it interesting or just a standard MMO 1-2 ability spam with the odd proc or instant mixed in?


At low levels this seems to be the case


Basically the game is balanced around at the end game 4-5 abilities as your core abilities to cycle properly, and there are multiple other abilities for situationals and reactionary (like if you dodge or a monster dodges for instance).

Conjurer was boring as heck until I did a few other quests, archer was always pretty fun because you can kite higher level mobs and try to challenge yourself with chain exp linking.


Yeah I'm playing Conj, it's beyond boring.
zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
August 26 2013 17:12 GMT
#756
It seems that my server is somewhat... dead. It's weird. Phoenix-EU, that is. Barely any posts on official forums, and literally zero posts on reddit FFXIV recruitment.

Since I'm only lvl 10 and today is gonna be the first day where I really can sit for 4+ hours to play, I think I'll reroll.

What server are you guys playing and is there an official TL guld somewhere?
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
August 26 2013 18:15 GMT
#757
On August 27 2013 01:48 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2013 01:12 Aberu wrote:
On August 26 2013 22:18 KillerSOS wrote:
On August 26 2013 18:59 GwSC wrote:
On August 26 2013 12:20 nota wrote:
Hit lvl 42 for black mage and just finished the lvl 41 instance Stone Vigil. The beginning instances are pretty
easy, although theyve been tuned better since the beta. The dungeons do become progressively harder.


How are you finding the combat system so far? Is it interesting or just a standard MMO 1-2 ability spam with the odd proc or instant mixed in?


At low levels this seems to be the case


Basically the game is balanced around at the end game 4-5 abilities as your core abilities to cycle properly, and there are multiple other abilities for situationals and reactionary (like if you dodge or a monster dodges for instance).

Conjurer was boring as heck until I did a few other quests, archer was always pretty fun because you can kite higher level mobs and try to challenge yourself with chain exp linking.


Yeah I'm playing Conj, it's beyond boring.


IMO most caster classes are very boring to me. I never enjoyed any of the caster classes in WoW, FFXI, RO, PSO, etc... You get the drift, I don't like sitting there and just casting the same thing over and over. Some people find it relaxing to play a caster so they enjoy it quite a bit.
srsly
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
August 26 2013 18:18 GMT
#758
On August 27 2013 02:12 zazen wrote:
It seems that my server is somewhat... dead. It's weird. Phoenix-EU, that is. Barely any posts on official forums, and literally zero posts on reddit FFXIV recruitment.

Since I'm only lvl 10 and today is gonna be the first day where I really can sit for 4+ hours to play, I think I'll reroll.

What server are you guys playing and is there an official TL guld somewhere?


http://ffxivrealm.com/forums/european-server-forums.129/

Found another place that seems to have quite a few recruitment topics going.

Not saying go elsewhere, just if no one replies, here's another resource.
srsly
Blackfish
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria309 Posts
August 26 2013 19:22 GMT
#759
On August 27 2013 01:08 Aberu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 22:38 Blackfish wrote:
Hey guys.
Just wanted to ask a question about pvp since the anwsers I found on the internet were a bit misleading.
Will there be a WoW style arena in FFXIV, 2v2/3v3 deathmatch type and such?


http://imgur.com/a/L8B6g

This is pretty much what we know so far.


Okay that actually looks excatly like I wanted it to look
but still just some picks, hope they stick to it, i just love arena pvp
NaDa - my god | Mvp - my king | Innovation - my favorite | Terran- my race
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
August 26 2013 20:51 GMT
#760
On August 27 2013 03:15 Aberu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2013 01:48 KillerSOS wrote:
On August 27 2013 01:12 Aberu wrote:
On August 26 2013 22:18 KillerSOS wrote:
On August 26 2013 18:59 GwSC wrote:
On August 26 2013 12:20 nota wrote:
Hit lvl 42 for black mage and just finished the lvl 41 instance Stone Vigil. The beginning instances are pretty
easy, although theyve been tuned better since the beta. The dungeons do become progressively harder.


How are you finding the combat system so far? Is it interesting or just a standard MMO 1-2 ability spam with the odd proc or instant mixed in?


At low levels this seems to be the case


Basically the game is balanced around at the end game 4-5 abilities as your core abilities to cycle properly, and there are multiple other abilities for situationals and reactionary (like if you dodge or a monster dodges for instance).

Conjurer was boring as heck until I did a few other quests, archer was always pretty fun because you can kite higher level mobs and try to challenge yourself with chain exp linking.


Yeah I'm playing Conj, it's beyond boring.


IMO most caster classes are very boring to me. I never enjoyed any of the caster classes in WoW, FFXI, RO, PSO, etc... You get the drift, I don't like sitting there and just casting the same thing over and over. Some people find it relaxing to play a caster so they enjoy it quite a bit.


I feel like both melee and casters is just about the same. Especially in PvP, in PvE their are very specific instances where melee have to move around more than Ranged (melee chasing a Boss zig zagging around while ranged chill). Usually with the right mechanics, everyone has to haul ass at some point.

In PvP there's always going to be that kite n chase dynamic. So in terms of movement, it really is basically the same unless you suck or your opponent sucks.

But I do see where you're coming from though. In terms of leveling it's more boring to lvl a ranged class when your first start out. However, this changes as mobs become more aggressive and powerful, forcing you to kite and CC in order to survive. Like on my cute as fuck Lalafell THM I would be happily throwing fireballs at a giant ant, next thing I know I agro'd 2 more, shiet. That's when I have to use Blizzard II, activate sprint and toss out some Sleeps and burn them down one by one. That is quite fun in my opinion, and not very relaxed.

I really can't wait to try Arena in FFXIV. I'm pretty confident that my WoW arena experience will help me climb the learning curve quicker.From what I can see, surecast looks like a real neat thing to have as a Mage. In WoW it was just primarily the healing classes that had that type of ability. People are saying sleep is broken, it's really the same thing as Polymorph from WoW, BUT if I can sleep multiple targets at once then that is a problem for sure.
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