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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
June 05 2012 07:00 GMT
#41
If this is as sandboxy as that trailer made it look like.... ohmygawd. ♥
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 05 2012 07:12 GMT
#42
On June 05 2012 16:00 r.Evo wrote:
If this is as sandboxy as that trailer made it look like.... ohmygawd. ♥

Yes. A well-made sandbox game is probably my favorite kind of game. :3

On June 05 2012 15:54 Xapti wrote:
The game itself seems like it could be OK, even if I hate the conceptual scenario. Well actually I said that halfway through the video. The second half seems kinda dumb — pretty shallow action, just like Assassin's Creed.
Why was the guy just randomly shot at out of nowhere?

Any game that seems to put so much emphasis on graphics and sound and padding makes me leary though. I'm all-for a game with a great environmental effect of immersion, but multi-millions of dollars spent on art and voiceovers isn't necessary to do that. In my opinion that's what made Dragon Age Origins crappy in a sense. I think it could have been a whole lot better if more resources was actually spent on improving the story, extending the gameplay, and maybe making combat more interesting or something.

I dunno, I feel like the backstory and setup won't make the action shallow. The guy was probably shot at out of nowhere because said media mogul probably had tons of cronies backing him up, doubt he'd just travel alone...

imho this game will have everything (graphics, sound, storyline, ui, controls, plot, what have you), but as everyone else as been saying, it remains to be seen what the end product will be like. There's honestly not that much you can do with 3rd person combat anymore without making it really gimmicky, and I didn't think the combat scheme was particularly bad at all.
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 07:58:12
June 05 2012 07:55 GMT
#43
On June 05 2012 09:51 oZii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.



Ubisoft has a pretty decent track record lately. With the Assassin Creed Franchise. AC III looks to be really good hopefully this game also.


They have a decent track record? How? They released a shitty expansion, Relevations just for milking, and like 4 other "mini games" to consoles and handheld devices. Assassins Creed II didn't fix the problems with the first game in the franchise. Far too simplistic and repetitive game-play, restricting, economy made no sense whatsoever. The 'plot' feels more like a way to drag the player in, there was no real progress in either of the games.
Ubisoft Montreal have good (read many) level designers, but the rest of it feels just recycled over and over from the first game, which wasn't that amazing even back then.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 05 2012 08:06 GMT
#44
It looks very promising, but I find there's quite a lot to be worried about. As was stated, it seems a bit "use ability here to do X, yay", very gimmicky, which is what made Syndicate such a crap game IMO, abilities weren't interesting and you could feel the presence of the developers every time you had the opportunity to use an ability. Likewise in this game, you get "Hack" symbol where you can use a power, which will probably simply lead to "Find the Hack symbol, Hack it" gameplay which is terribly boring. Hopefully it's far more dynamic than that.

The second thing is that the game seems heavily scripted. Of course, we can't know what's actually scripted, and we can assume that just because the initial gameplay trailer is heavily scripted, the full game won't be, but yeah. The part where he saves a civilian from the car just feels weird, when would you do that in a game and how does that work dynamically? "If player is in a firefight and tries to take a car with people in it, he will tell them to run instead"... ok. Another surprising thing was how the security is "on him" to stop him from leaving, but he just runs up to a guy, beats his face in and leaves. What happened to the other guards?
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
June 05 2012 09:22 GMT
#45
Watched it. Yeah... Ubisoft always pulls bait-and-switches. Its highly unlikely that you can cause that perfect car crash in the game, let alone have a nearby walking civilian animate perfectly to one of the cars to open the door and help the injured people out. Highly, highly unlikely.

What we'll end up with is an approximation that will be "good enough" for most people but will essentially be a prettier GTA.
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
June 05 2012 11:47 GMT
#46
On June 05 2012 16:55 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 09:51 oZii wrote:
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.



Ubisoft has a pretty decent track record lately. With the Assassin Creed Franchise. AC III looks to be really good hopefully this game also.


They have a decent track record? How? They released a shitty expansion, Relevations just for milking, and like 4 other "mini games" to consoles and handheld devices. Assassins Creed II didn't fix the problems with the first game in the franchise. Far too simplistic and repetitive game-play, restricting, economy made no sense whatsoever. The 'plot' feels more like a way to drag the player in, there was no real progress in either of the games.
Ubisoft Montreal have good (read many) level designers, but the rest of it feels just recycled over and over from the first game, which wasn't that amazing even back then.

To add to that: LET'S GO BACK TO SPLINTER CELL'S ROOTS

Fucking junk.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 05 2012 11:49 GMT
#47
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 15:32:45
June 05 2012 15:23 GMT
#48
On June 05 2012 13:46 iGrok wrote:
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On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?

Funny, i saw the opposite. In this game you had the option to rescue a civilian, totally unrelated tp the plot, in the middle of a fight. How many other games can you do that?


In games like Splinter Cell or Hitman you could use subterfuge to approach and eliminate your target without putting civilians at risk. Made much more sense than random mayhem on a busy street. This seems very "unprofessional". Who's the main character? Some self-proclaimed tech-savvy vigilante who doesn't give a shit about the law or bystanders as long as he gets what he wants? A member of some super-secret government agency that does black-ops in public?

Sorry, this trailer didn't spark much of my interest. I was hyped for Syndicate before that, which was a total failure. I don't believe I would enjoy this title (as much as I loved Splinter Cell and Hitman series, GTA ended on 2 for me and I seriously hate every single one from III onwards).

On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.




Makes more sense, no?
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oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
June 05 2012 18:00 GMT
#49
On June 05 2012 16:55 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 09:51 oZii wrote:
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.



Ubisoft has a pretty decent track record lately. With the Assassin Creed Franchise. AC III looks to be really good hopefully this game also.


They have a decent track record? How? They released a shitty expansion, Relevations just for milking, and like 4 other "mini games" to consoles and handheld devices. Assassins Creed II didn't fix the problems with the first game in the franchise. Far too simplistic and repetitive game-play, restricting, economy made no sense whatsoever. The 'plot' feels more like a way to drag the player in, there was no real progress in either of the games.
Ubisoft Montreal have good (read many) level designers, but the rest of it feels just recycled over and over from the first game, which wasn't that amazing even back then.



Brothers in Arms
Assassins creed series (yea if their intent was milking they succeeded) I only purchased 1 and 2.
Beyond Good and Evil
Far Cry series
Myst
Prince of persia series
Ray Man
Ghost Recon
Rainbow Six
Splinter Cell

They have a ton more titles that most would consider garbage but so do alot of companies. Thats all you need is a handful of titles people like its true with most game companies. Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo have all released their share of junk.

I can't think of 1 company that released all AAA titles outside of maybe Blizzard,
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
June 05 2012 18:03 GMT
#50
Looks amazingly promising. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
June 05 2012 18:11 GMT
#51
On June 05 2012 16:12 Aerisky wrote:
The guy was probably shot at out of nowhere because said media mogul probably had tons of cronies backing him up, doubt he'd just travel alone...

I'm not saying he'd be alone, I'm wondering why some dudes would jump out of their cars after a car crash occurs, spread out, and start shooting some random guy on the street. I don't see the shooter's motive to seemingly shoot a random civilian.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
June 05 2012 18:17 GMT
#52
On June 06 2012 03:11 Xapti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 16:12 Aerisky wrote:
The guy was probably shot at out of nowhere because said media mogul probably had tons of cronies backing him up, doubt he'd just travel alone...

I'm not saying he'd be alone, I'm wondering why some dudes would jump out of their cars after a car crash occurs, spread out, and start shooting some random guy on the street. I don't see the shooter's motive to seemingly shoot a random civilian.


Everyone knows who the Main Character is at least that what I get from when he was in the club. People where looking at him asking why he is here so on and so forth. He seems to have some kind of reputation. Like the girl in the club who's phone he hacked she talked about him as if he knew who he was, so she called her boss the media mogul. The guards knew who he was also he had to create a distraction to get into the club otherwise they probably wouldn't have let him in.
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
June 05 2012 18:27 GMT
#53
The interesting thing is, I'm guessing you don't HAVE to cause a car crash to take that guy out. I'm guessing you could probably let the car pull up and try to take him down with a direct assault if you want. So it might be up to the player to choose how they want to play, risking innocent casualties to make your job easier or taking the righteous path.
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 18:42:33
June 05 2012 18:41 GMT
#54
On June 06 2012 00:23 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_pal859keA


Makes more sense, no?


Damn...okay now I'm once again very excited about hitman . That had way more variability than what this game showed in terms of how to accomplish your objective. Personally I was thinking of poisoning the cocaine, but oh well, stabbing him with a kitchen knife at the dealer's place works too
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 19:03:32
June 05 2012 19:02 GMT
#55
On June 06 2012 03:00 oZii wrote:I can't think of 1 company that released all AAA titles outside of maybe Blizzard,


You do realize that Ubisoft is a publisher, right? They have 26 different game studios that work for them.

For example, Ubisoft Toronto was established in 2009 and they are releasing their first game, Splinter Cell: Blacklist, in 2013.

It's not like every game with the Ubisoft logo comes from the same developers. There are loads of developers that have released nothing but AAA titles other than Blizzard. Valve and ArenaNET also immediately come to mind.

Not to mention Blizzard has released their fair share of non-AAA titles over the years:

Justice League Task Force
The Death and Return of Superman
Shanghai II: Dragon's Eye
Dvorak on Typing
Lexi-Cross
MicroLeague Baseball
Castles
J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I
Battle Chess II: Chinese Chess
Battle Chess

Plus you have to realize Blizzard only has a mere three franchises. The only way they can make a non-AAA game is to make a new IP, which they haven't done in over a decade. You can't really rag on other companies for not releasing 100% blockbuster titles when Blizzard doesn't even put effort into anything that isn't an already-established brand.

PS - I hope this game doesn't disappoint. The trailer makes it look both good and bad, depending on how forced the scenarios are.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 19:19:30
June 05 2012 19:18 GMT
#56
I love the consept, but I have no faith in Ubisoft to carry it out.
edit: Soundtrack sounds really good thought. From the little I can hear of it that is.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
June 05 2012 20:01 GMT
#57
Updated the OP with this info I found in the IGN wiki. Link is also in the OP The game is Open world this comes from the developer.

In a press release, Creative Director at Ubisoft Jonathan Morin says,

"Watch Dogs goes beyond the limits of today's open-world games by giving players the ability to control an entire city. In Watch Dogs, anything connected to the city's Central Operating System becomes a weapon. By pushing the boundaries, we can provide players with action and access to information on a scale that's never been seen in a video game before."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
June 06 2012 06:45 GMT
#58
On June 06 2012 03:41 radscorpion9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 00:23 Manit0u wrote:
On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_pal859keA


Makes more sense, no?


Damn...okay now I'm once again very excited about hitman . That had way more variability than what this game showed in terms of how to accomplish your objective. Personally I was thinking of poisoning the cocaine, but oh well, stabbing him with a kitchen knife at the dealer's place works too


You can poison him too. I'm still wondering if they showed all of the ways to get rid of the guy or is there even more? I'm seriously excited for this, just discovering various ways of doing things will be fun in on itself.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 06 2012 06:52 GMT
#59
On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.


Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
June 06 2012 07:07 GMT
#60
On June 06 2012 15:52 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZYkj0glnqs


OK, now THAT's impressive! Want.
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