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Ubisofts new IP Watch Dogs! Looks amazing.

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oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 00:53:25
June 05 2012 00:48 GMT
#1
This a first gameplay look at Ubisofts new IP Watch Dogs.

It debuted today at this years E3 and so far looks to be the surprise of the entire show.

I gotta say this is refreshing and looks really good. Originality is rare these days in many games based on this years E3 showing it is mostly unoriginal rehashes or remakes. Mostly the same thing but this really has me excited to see what happens with this game.

Not sure what the entire story is about as details on the game just came out today. Seems to be set in the present day. Main character seems to be some kind of known exile. Can't really say much on the story until more details come out. I definitely like pacing it seems to take based on this early game footage.

If you have the time take a look at this gameplay footage and tell me what you think interested?

Release date is TBD coming to PC,PS3, Xbox 360.

Introduction Trailer setting up the story!



Gameplay Trailer



Notable Moments that caught my eye in the gameplay trailer

@2:00 jams all cell phones using what seems to be his iphone.

@7:00 causes traffic jam by hacking traffic lights using his phone in order to make a hit.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/watch-dogs

In a press release, Creative Director at Ubisoft Jonathan Morin says, "Watch Dogs goes beyond the limits of today's open-world games by giving players the ability to control an entire city. In Watch Dogs, anything connected to the city's Central Operating System becomes a weapon. By pushing the boundaries, we can provide players with action and access to information on a scale that's never been seen in a video game before."



Update June 06, 2012

http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6380920/hacking-the-city-in-watch-dogs-theres-an-app-for-that

Ubisoft debuted its upcoming open-world game Watch Dogs during its stage show here at E3 2012, and that showing easily established it as one of the standout games of the show. Yesterday at the Ubisoft booth, we had a chance to take a closer look at that same demo. Far more interestingly, we also got a brief glimpse of a mobile app that looks as if it could expand the Watch Dogs experience in some innovative ways.

The non-playable demo was commented on by Kevin Short, lead story designer on the game. He described protagonist Aidan Pierce as a man shaped by violence and obsessed with surveillance. We noticed that Aidan's target during the demo has been acquitted of murder--presumably a murder he actually committed, which left us wondering if Aidan is something of a city-hacking Dexter, a man who doles out death to people who have killed others.

As Aidan entered the club in which he tracks his target during the demo, Short stated that fully realized interiors like the club aren't limited to mission-specific locations and that you can enter and investigate these interiors at any time, not just when dictated by a mission. Different locations draw different kinds of crowds, and hacking into the personal information of people outside of missions can lead to other opportunities and benefits.

Speaking of that personal information, this closer look at the demo let us better appreciate just how personal the info displayed for characters you approach is. One individual was revealed to be HIV positive, for instance, while another was shown to be the subject of a restraining order. Other personal details like annual income were also displayed, and Short suggested that your access to this kind of information could enable you to blackmail people.

But it was after the demo wrapped that the biggest revelation occurred. Short pulled out a tablet that displayed a 3D map of Watch Dogs' version of Chicago. He showed that using this app, he could track the movements of in-game characters and access dossiers of personal information about them--just the sort of thing that protagonist Aidan might himself make use of. You can also access information about locations, including schematics that might help you work out advantageous ways into and out of buildings you need to infiltrate.

Most intriguing were the social aspects Short hinted at. He indicated that you could see how friends had completed missions, perhaps giving you ideas on new techniques you might employ. Even more exciting was the competitive aspect he described. The app will let you challenge your friends, and if they accept your challenge, you can use the app to hack the city to make their lives more difficult. For instance, if your friend is driving down a road toward a mission objective, you might be able to hack traffic signals using the app (not unlike how Aidan does during the demo), attempting to cause collisions that hinder his or her progress.

Unfortunately, our glimpse at this app and its features was brief and left us with many unanswered questions. But it also left us more excited about Watch Dogs than we were before. Apps that tie in to games are nothing new; Mass Effect 3 had an app that let you send agents on missions to improve your galactic readiness level, and a Batman: Arkham City app helped you find and acquire the trophies the Riddler had scattered around town. But this looks as if it could be much more than a handy little app. It could be a meaningful and fun augmentation of Watch Dogs' surveillance-focused gameplay.
Zhang
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States129 Posts
June 05 2012 00:50 GMT
#2
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
June 05 2012 00:51 GMT
#3
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.



Ubisoft has a pretty decent track record lately. With the Assassin Creed Franchise. AC III looks to be really good hopefully this game also.
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
June 05 2012 00:55 GMT
#4
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.


i feel this way about every game i see T.T recently never buy a game without playing a demo or a beta etc
This looks like a good concept though, so at least it has some promise.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
June 05 2012 01:00 GMT
#5
this seems very prone to just turn into "use ability X at time Y to get past obstacle Z"

hopefully not but I am very skeptical of this game right now.
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Roggle
Profile Joined November 2010
United States142 Posts
June 05 2012 01:04 GMT
#6
On June 05 2012 09:55 Warpath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.


i feel this way about every game i see T.T recently never buy a game without playing a demo or a beta etc
This looks like a good concept though, so at least it has some promise.


Yeah, the game will really hinge on how well they are able to make use of the concept. Emphasizing the power the player has at his/her fingertips isn't really going to mean much if everything's too scripted, turning it into simple puzzles to progress the story. I'd love it if this turns out to be largely open world GTA-style where we can cause all sorts of mayhem for kicks in between story progression points. I see so much potential with the concept; the burden is really on Ubisoft to realize it.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
June 05 2012 01:11 GMT
#7
On June 05 2012 10:00 Ideas wrote:
this seems very prone to just turn into "use ability X at time Y to get past obstacle Z"

hopefully not but I am very skeptical of this game right now.



Hmm yea I can see what your saying there. Aren't most games like that though? Just looking at the UI from the gameplay footage it seems you have alot of options available at all times and can probably just use whats applicable. With the traffic jam it was probably the best ability to use but it wasn't contextual saying use this. Some of the others did seem kind of obvious like getting into the club but if he could have just caused another traffic jam at the beginning to cause a distraction that would be cool with different possibilities.

When he is walking around just through the city seems to be alot of options I saw hack on different points, camera, rescue, get into any car. Potential is there will have to see how Ubi executes it though. Definitely has alot of promise.
NoSlack
Profile Joined November 2010
United States112 Posts
June 05 2012 01:15 GMT
#8
Looks like a digital age hitman game. Very promising.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
June 05 2012 01:16 GMT
#9
This looks amazing, I hope it turns out to be as good as it looks. The theme is very similar theme to a lot of Ubisoft's games.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 05 2012 01:17 GMT
#10
this is definitely better than assassin creed in space.
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Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
June 05 2012 02:25 GMT
#11
woah that looks awesome
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 05 2012 03:01 GMT
#12
The QR code in the trailer leads to www.dotconnexion.com

Have fun
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 05 2012 03:51 GMT
#13
Omg I hope they pull this off...

It's cyberpunk GTA!
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 05 2012 03:54 GMT
#14
If this game allows for a sandbox style of control, then i am really pumped for this.
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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 03:55:58
June 05 2012 03:55 GMT
#15
Deus Ex has a baby with GTA IV and called it Watch Dog.

I am hyped.

EDIT: If that car crash and everything about it was dynamic, hnnnnnnng
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
June 05 2012 04:17 GMT
#16
The extent to which it has blatantly copy-pasted the theme/setting/story for person of interest at first surprised me and turned me off.

But tbh, I'm pretty pumped for a game like this, even if it is about as original as a next-generation potato chip.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
June 05 2012 04:33 GMT
#17
Great to see new IPs, seems like a lot of promising new IPs have a first release then get dropped by publishers :-/
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 05 2012 04:38 GMT
#18
Whoa, this is some really fresh approach for a game. Looking forward to this, soon will be in the market for some games ^^
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 05 2012 04:40 GMT
#19
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 05 2012 04:46 GMT
#20
On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?

Funny, i saw the opposite. In this game you had the option to rescue a civilian, totally unrelated tp the plot, in the middle of a fight. How many other games can you do that?
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 05 2012 04:50 GMT
#21
The graphics, facial expressions, and voice acting is also fantastic. The general UI looks sweet and the sandbox-esque style is also awesome. I actually am looking forward to this quite a bit :O will have to read some reviews and make a decision, but so far this looks to be a very interesting game. Hoping it has replay value and/or very diverse choices/nonlinear gamplay :D
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
June 05 2012 04:52 GMT
#22
It's tough to be original these days with all the stuff coming up, it shouldn't be a focus anymore. I just want good games and this looks like one.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8099 Posts
June 05 2012 04:59 GMT
#23
On June 05 2012 13:46 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?

Funny, i saw the opposite. In this game you had the option to rescue a civilian, totally unrelated tp the plot, in the middle of a fight. How many other games can you do that?


he helped save like 1 of 2 survivors out of 10+ cars that got in a wreck that he caused. i mean the guy he saved was trying to help the passenger in his car that looked totally fucking dead.

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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 05 2012 05:06 GMT
#24
Well it's not much worse than GTA or your typical FPS, but the game probably does a better job than most of humanizing its characters (or filler/random NPCs running around), or at least will put the player in a position of power in which he will begin to have considerations for this kind of stuff. Wasn't able to express myself that well, but basically something like BF3 or something completely dehumanizes people and you just run around killing shit, but this game...you do the same but I think maybe questions of morality will be raised...even if you still kill tons of stuff. I guess basically it will try to be more "real world"sy and real to its audience, for lack of a better phrase/explanation in general lol
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 05 2012 05:07 GMT
#25
On June 05 2012 13:59 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 13:46 iGrok wrote:
On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?

Funny, i saw the opposite. In this game you had the option to rescue a civilian, totally unrelated tp the plot, in the middle of a fight. How many other games can you do that?


he helped save like 1 of 2 survivors out of 10+ cars that got in a wreck that he caused. i mean the guy he saved was trying to help the passenger in his car that looked totally fucking dead.


Yes, but my point is: what other game even gives you the option to rescue some random dude amidst the chaos you've caused?
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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 05:16:05
June 05 2012 05:15 GMT
#26
We really need to wait and see a few things before making judgement's like this, need to see how open the game is, the motives for the main characters/underlying plot and how many different ways you can go about each objective.

Can you go through the game without hurting innocents (get rewarded for it?)? Or can you play a total badass who doesn't give a fuck about human lives/safety?

Not sure how much the game would touch on this stuff, if at all, but I am certainly curious to see the direction it takes.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 05 2012 05:35 GMT
#27
On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?

I actually felt pretty sad for the guy whose wife/girlfriend/sister died in that car. The game will be so good if it continues to build upon this guilt of accidentally killing off innocent bystanders, since that is something that not enough games explore upon.

And I'm okay if it's going to just be GTA Chicago. I go to school near the city, and I would love to sight see in the game what I sight saw IRL. I'm definitely going to keep following this game.
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NEXUS6
Profile Joined July 2011
United States413 Posts
June 05 2012 05:42 GMT
#28
this looks like my kind of game
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 05:44:41
June 05 2012 05:43 GMT
#29
On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?


You do realize games like GTA are popular right?

But I really did feel bad for that guy man. If that shit, again, was dynamic and not scripted and that was actual AI and shit, holy fuck get hyped. That's some good shit. But it's clear you're a good guy and not some SUPER AWESOME ASSASSIN or something, and that was demonstrated oh so clearly when you pulled a man out of a car so that he wouldn't get caught in the crossfire too after watching his presumed wife die.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 05:45:15
June 05 2012 05:44 GMT
#30
Yeah I can't help but feel like it was perhaps scripted, but if the explosion/accident sequence wasn't prewritten..........holy mother of god get some. If the rest of the game is as diverse/awesome as that, hot dayum.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
June 05 2012 05:46 GMT
#31
On June 05 2012 14:44 Aerisky wrote:
Yeah I can't help but feel like it was perhaps scripted, but if the explosion/accident sequence wasn't prewritten..........holy mother of god get some. If the rest of the game is as diverse/awesome as that, hot dayum.


Yeah.

Honestly, this game looks fun but it doesn't look amazing per se. Everything rests on the coming days and if we see more of this game. If the game is truly as dynamic as it appears to be, it will break that amazing material.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 05 2012 05:52 GMT
#32
On June 05 2012 14:43 Candadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?


You do realize games like GTA are popular right?

But I really did feel bad for that guy man. If that shit, again, was dynamic and not scripted and that was actual AI and shit, holy fuck get hyped. That's some good shit. But it's clear you're a good guy and not some SUPER AWESOME ASSASSIN or something, and that was demonstrated oh so clearly when you pulled a man out of a car so that he wouldn't get caught in the crossfire too after watching his presumed wife die.

Dude, I got chills when I felt friggin empathy for that poor guy. I went through Skyrim charging up my Ebony Blade on a bunch of former followers that followed me on many an adventure, yet I unfortunately hardly felt any remorse for my murderous ways.

Yet, hearing that guy grieve for his wife in that car really had an impact on my emotions, which is something that I rarely, if ever, feel in any game.
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ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
June 05 2012 05:55 GMT
#33
This looks like a modern/future assassin's creed. Awesome! :D
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
June 05 2012 05:57 GMT
#34
Had to remind myself that the first video was fake, i got scared
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
June 05 2012 05:59 GMT
#35
Holy wow.. This is amazing.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 05 2012 06:10 GMT
#36
On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?

It looks downright philanthropic compared to the GTA games. It'll come down to how the game plays out, but I think it should be fine in that regard.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 06:32:03
June 05 2012 06:12 GMT
#37
LOL "downright philanthropic" hahaha nice one, I'll drop that on my buddies when they inevitably make the GTA comparison :D
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ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
June 05 2012 06:27 GMT
#38
Game looks sweet, we'll have to see how much of that was hardcoded/cutscene ish. Has massive potential though... like a deus ex, but done better :D

... downright philanthropic... may have to steal that one :D
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
June 05 2012 06:33 GMT
#39
The big question is whether or not that demo is the best scene in the game.
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
June 05 2012 06:54 GMT
#40
I'm not a fan of Ubisoft.

The game itself seems like it could be OK, even if I hate the conceptual scenario. Well actually I said that halfway through the video. The second half seems kinda dumb — pretty shallow action, just like Assassin's Creed.
Why was the guy just randomly shot at out of nowhere?

Any game that seems to put so much emphasis on graphics and sound and padding makes me leary though. I'm all-for a game with a great environmental effect of immersion, but multi-millions of dollars spent on art and voiceovers isn't necessary to do that. In my opinion that's what made Dragon Age Origins crappy in a sense. I think it could have been a whole lot better if more resources was actually spent on improving the story, extending the gameplay, and maybe making combat more interesting or something.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
June 05 2012 07:00 GMT
#41
If this is as sandboxy as that trailer made it look like.... ohmygawd. ♥
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 05 2012 07:12 GMT
#42
On June 05 2012 16:00 r.Evo wrote:
If this is as sandboxy as that trailer made it look like.... ohmygawd. ♥

Yes. A well-made sandbox game is probably my favorite kind of game. :3

On June 05 2012 15:54 Xapti wrote:
The game itself seems like it could be OK, even if I hate the conceptual scenario. Well actually I said that halfway through the video. The second half seems kinda dumb — pretty shallow action, just like Assassin's Creed.
Why was the guy just randomly shot at out of nowhere?

Any game that seems to put so much emphasis on graphics and sound and padding makes me leary though. I'm all-for a game with a great environmental effect of immersion, but multi-millions of dollars spent on art and voiceovers isn't necessary to do that. In my opinion that's what made Dragon Age Origins crappy in a sense. I think it could have been a whole lot better if more resources was actually spent on improving the story, extending the gameplay, and maybe making combat more interesting or something.

I dunno, I feel like the backstory and setup won't make the action shallow. The guy was probably shot at out of nowhere because said media mogul probably had tons of cronies backing him up, doubt he'd just travel alone...

imho this game will have everything (graphics, sound, storyline, ui, controls, plot, what have you), but as everyone else as been saying, it remains to be seen what the end product will be like. There's honestly not that much you can do with 3rd person combat anymore without making it really gimmicky, and I didn't think the combat scheme was particularly bad at all.
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 07:58:12
June 05 2012 07:55 GMT
#43
On June 05 2012 09:51 oZii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.



Ubisoft has a pretty decent track record lately. With the Assassin Creed Franchise. AC III looks to be really good hopefully this game also.


They have a decent track record? How? They released a shitty expansion, Relevations just for milking, and like 4 other "mini games" to consoles and handheld devices. Assassins Creed II didn't fix the problems with the first game in the franchise. Far too simplistic and repetitive game-play, restricting, economy made no sense whatsoever. The 'plot' feels more like a way to drag the player in, there was no real progress in either of the games.
Ubisoft Montreal have good (read many) level designers, but the rest of it feels just recycled over and over from the first game, which wasn't that amazing even back then.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 05 2012 08:06 GMT
#44
It looks very promising, but I find there's quite a lot to be worried about. As was stated, it seems a bit "use ability here to do X, yay", very gimmicky, which is what made Syndicate such a crap game IMO, abilities weren't interesting and you could feel the presence of the developers every time you had the opportunity to use an ability. Likewise in this game, you get "Hack" symbol where you can use a power, which will probably simply lead to "Find the Hack symbol, Hack it" gameplay which is terribly boring. Hopefully it's far more dynamic than that.

The second thing is that the game seems heavily scripted. Of course, we can't know what's actually scripted, and we can assume that just because the initial gameplay trailer is heavily scripted, the full game won't be, but yeah. The part where he saves a civilian from the car just feels weird, when would you do that in a game and how does that work dynamically? "If player is in a firefight and tries to take a car with people in it, he will tell them to run instead"... ok. Another surprising thing was how the security is "on him" to stop him from leaving, but he just runs up to a guy, beats his face in and leaves. What happened to the other guards?
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
June 05 2012 09:22 GMT
#45
Watched it. Yeah... Ubisoft always pulls bait-and-switches. Its highly unlikely that you can cause that perfect car crash in the game, let alone have a nearby walking civilian animate perfectly to one of the cars to open the door and help the injured people out. Highly, highly unlikely.

What we'll end up with is an approximation that will be "good enough" for most people but will essentially be a prettier GTA.
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
June 05 2012 11:47 GMT
#46
On June 05 2012 16:55 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 09:51 oZii wrote:
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.



Ubisoft has a pretty decent track record lately. With the Assassin Creed Franchise. AC III looks to be really good hopefully this game also.


They have a decent track record? How? They released a shitty expansion, Relevations just for milking, and like 4 other "mini games" to consoles and handheld devices. Assassins Creed II didn't fix the problems with the first game in the franchise. Far too simplistic and repetitive game-play, restricting, economy made no sense whatsoever. The 'plot' feels more like a way to drag the player in, there was no real progress in either of the games.
Ubisoft Montreal have good (read many) level designers, but the rest of it feels just recycled over and over from the first game, which wasn't that amazing even back then.

To add to that: LET'S GO BACK TO SPLINTER CELL'S ROOTS

Fucking junk.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 05 2012 11:49 GMT
#47
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 15:32:45
June 05 2012 15:23 GMT
#48
On June 05 2012 13:46 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?

Funny, i saw the opposite. In this game you had the option to rescue a civilian, totally unrelated tp the plot, in the middle of a fight. How many other games can you do that?


In games like Splinter Cell or Hitman you could use subterfuge to approach and eliminate your target without putting civilians at risk. Made much more sense than random mayhem on a busy street. This seems very "unprofessional". Who's the main character? Some self-proclaimed tech-savvy vigilante who doesn't give a shit about the law or bystanders as long as he gets what he wants? A member of some super-secret government agency that does black-ops in public?

Sorry, this trailer didn't spark much of my interest. I was hyped for Syndicate before that, which was a total failure. I don't believe I would enjoy this title (as much as I loved Splinter Cell and Hitman series, GTA ended on 2 for me and I seriously hate every single one from III onwards).

On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.




Makes more sense, no?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
June 05 2012 18:00 GMT
#49
On June 05 2012 16:55 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 09:51 oZii wrote:
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.



Ubisoft has a pretty decent track record lately. With the Assassin Creed Franchise. AC III looks to be really good hopefully this game also.


They have a decent track record? How? They released a shitty expansion, Relevations just for milking, and like 4 other "mini games" to consoles and handheld devices. Assassins Creed II didn't fix the problems with the first game in the franchise. Far too simplistic and repetitive game-play, restricting, economy made no sense whatsoever. The 'plot' feels more like a way to drag the player in, there was no real progress in either of the games.
Ubisoft Montreal have good (read many) level designers, but the rest of it feels just recycled over and over from the first game, which wasn't that amazing even back then.



Brothers in Arms
Assassins creed series (yea if their intent was milking they succeeded) I only purchased 1 and 2.
Beyond Good and Evil
Far Cry series
Myst
Prince of persia series
Ray Man
Ghost Recon
Rainbow Six
Splinter Cell

They have a ton more titles that most would consider garbage but so do alot of companies. Thats all you need is a handful of titles people like its true with most game companies. Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo have all released their share of junk.

I can't think of 1 company that released all AAA titles outside of maybe Blizzard,
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
June 05 2012 18:03 GMT
#50
Looks amazingly promising. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
June 05 2012 18:11 GMT
#51
On June 05 2012 16:12 Aerisky wrote:
The guy was probably shot at out of nowhere because said media mogul probably had tons of cronies backing him up, doubt he'd just travel alone...

I'm not saying he'd be alone, I'm wondering why some dudes would jump out of their cars after a car crash occurs, spread out, and start shooting some random guy on the street. I don't see the shooter's motive to seemingly shoot a random civilian.
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oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
June 05 2012 18:17 GMT
#52
On June 06 2012 03:11 Xapti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 16:12 Aerisky wrote:
The guy was probably shot at out of nowhere because said media mogul probably had tons of cronies backing him up, doubt he'd just travel alone...

I'm not saying he'd be alone, I'm wondering why some dudes would jump out of their cars after a car crash occurs, spread out, and start shooting some random guy on the street. I don't see the shooter's motive to seemingly shoot a random civilian.


Everyone knows who the Main Character is at least that what I get from when he was in the club. People where looking at him asking why he is here so on and so forth. He seems to have some kind of reputation. Like the girl in the club who's phone he hacked she talked about him as if he knew who he was, so she called her boss the media mogul. The guards knew who he was also he had to create a distraction to get into the club otherwise they probably wouldn't have let him in.
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
June 05 2012 18:27 GMT
#53
The interesting thing is, I'm guessing you don't HAVE to cause a car crash to take that guy out. I'm guessing you could probably let the car pull up and try to take him down with a direct assault if you want. So it might be up to the player to choose how they want to play, risking innocent casualties to make your job easier or taking the righteous path.
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 18:42:33
June 05 2012 18:41 GMT
#54
On June 06 2012 00:23 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_pal859keA


Makes more sense, no?


Damn...okay now I'm once again very excited about hitman . That had way more variability than what this game showed in terms of how to accomplish your objective. Personally I was thinking of poisoning the cocaine, but oh well, stabbing him with a kitchen knife at the dealer's place works too
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 19:03:32
June 05 2012 19:02 GMT
#55
On June 06 2012 03:00 oZii wrote:I can't think of 1 company that released all AAA titles outside of maybe Blizzard,


You do realize that Ubisoft is a publisher, right? They have 26 different game studios that work for them.

For example, Ubisoft Toronto was established in 2009 and they are releasing their first game, Splinter Cell: Blacklist, in 2013.

It's not like every game with the Ubisoft logo comes from the same developers. There are loads of developers that have released nothing but AAA titles other than Blizzard. Valve and ArenaNET also immediately come to mind.

Not to mention Blizzard has released their fair share of non-AAA titles over the years:

Justice League Task Force
The Death and Return of Superman
Shanghai II: Dragon's Eye
Dvorak on Typing
Lexi-Cross
MicroLeague Baseball
Castles
J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, Vol. I
Battle Chess II: Chinese Chess
Battle Chess

Plus you have to realize Blizzard only has a mere three franchises. The only way they can make a non-AAA game is to make a new IP, which they haven't done in over a decade. You can't really rag on other companies for not releasing 100% blockbuster titles when Blizzard doesn't even put effort into anything that isn't an already-established brand.

PS - I hope this game doesn't disappoint. The trailer makes it look both good and bad, depending on how forced the scenarios are.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 19:19:30
June 05 2012 19:18 GMT
#56
I love the consept, but I have no faith in Ubisoft to carry it out.
edit: Soundtrack sounds really good thought. From the little I can hear of it that is.
oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
June 05 2012 20:01 GMT
#57
Updated the OP with this info I found in the IGN wiki. Link is also in the OP The game is Open world this comes from the developer.

In a press release, Creative Director at Ubisoft Jonathan Morin says,

"Watch Dogs goes beyond the limits of today's open-world games by giving players the ability to control an entire city. In Watch Dogs, anything connected to the city's Central Operating System becomes a weapon. By pushing the boundaries, we can provide players with action and access to information on a scale that's never been seen in a video game before."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
June 06 2012 06:45 GMT
#58
On June 06 2012 03:41 radscorpion9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 00:23 Manit0u wrote:
On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_pal859keA


Makes more sense, no?


Damn...okay now I'm once again very excited about hitman . That had way more variability than what this game showed in terms of how to accomplish your objective. Personally I was thinking of poisoning the cocaine, but oh well, stabbing him with a kitchen knife at the dealer's place works too


You can poison him too. I'm still wondering if they showed all of the ways to get rid of the guy or is there even more? I'm seriously excited for this, just discovering various ways of doing things will be fun in on itself.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
June 06 2012 06:52 GMT
#59
On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.


Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17257 Posts
June 06 2012 07:07 GMT
#60
On June 06 2012 15:52 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 20:49 Kipsate wrote:
by far the most impresive showing at E3 imo.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZYkj0glnqs


OK, now THAT's impressive! Want.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
June 06 2012 08:27 GMT
#61
Seems like a more techno-centric GTA which is by no means bad as it seems really immersive.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
June 06 2012 08:46 GMT
#62
The Last Of Us gameplay looked like they just prerecorded it and placed some idiot on stage to hold the controler. Nonetheless it looked pretty nice.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
June 06 2012 08:55 GMT
#63
Think i'll get it for PC. Hopefully its not crazily priced, but looks very cool.
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
June 06 2012 08:56 GMT
#64
On June 06 2012 17:46 Skilledblob wrote:
The Last Of Us gameplay looked like they just prerecorded it and placed some idiot on stage to hold the controler. Nonetheless it looked pretty nice.


Indeed and it looked super scripted, actual game will probably end up playing a bit different. Anyway the game looks similar to Uncharted to me but a lot slower paced and more realistic.

On topic Watch Dogs looks like it could be really good or just average, definitely has potential though. Minimap and cars do make it look like GTA style open world which would be great.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
June 06 2012 18:01 GMT
#65
"Two people were playing during the demo, one was playing as Aiden Pierce, and another person was playing as another character, which had his own objectives, and ''crossed paths''. Basically, both players had their own objectives and crossed paths."

oh my god
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
June 06 2012 18:07 GMT
#66
Although I'd love this to be a new GTA I have a feeling it will be more like Assassin's Creed with a different set of tools.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
June 06 2012 18:57 GMT
#67
this looks very scripted, basically an action game with a gimmick.

I would find it a LOT more interesting if it would be a real free world and things interact dynamically.




Basically techno GTA vs techno Skyrim, i am on the skyrim side :D
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
June 06 2012 19:20 GMT
#68
More like techno skyrim aka techno bioshock ripoff
Without a paddle up shit creek.
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
June 06 2012 19:24 GMT
#69
On June 05 2012 09:51 oZii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 09:50 Zhang wrote:
I want to feel excited but I think I would just set myself up for disappointment.



Ubisoft has a pretty decent track record lately. With the Assassin Creed Franchise. AC III looks to be really good hopefully this game also.


I still don't understand how people can enjoy those games..But oh well.

Rayman Origins was really cool tho.
iRoN-
Profile Joined June 2007
Germany78 Posts
June 06 2012 20:29 GMT
#70
On June 07 2012 04:20 matiK23 wrote:
More like techno skyrim aka techno bioshock ripoff

Aka System Shock .... techno bioshock + Show Spoiler +
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oZii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1198 Posts
June 07 2012 00:56 GMT
#71
updated the op with new info from gamespot today

apparently it seems it's a 1 player game with some aspects that allow you to interact with friends.

Basically there will be a App for your tablet or Mobile phone and say your friend has the game also. You see your friend is on a mission and you can interfere with your friends mission. Say he is driving towards a location for a mission and you can hack the traffic lights to make it difficult for him on his mission.

They also talk about that locations aren't just regulated to missions that you can visit say that club anytime you like to cause mayhem if you like.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 07 2012 01:22 GMT
#72
It looks really cool, but I fear insane repetitiveness, similar to that of Assassins Creed.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
June 07 2012 16:18 GMT
#73
Something about this game feels way too tryhard. Games used to be cool simply coz. Nowadays they seem to try soooo damn hard to get that "cool factor" and instead it just feels cornball.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-07 16:51:46
June 07 2012 16:51 GMT
#74
On June 05 2012 13:40 motbob wrote:
The callous disregard for the lives of innocent people by the main character might be an interesting topic of discussion. Is the murder of innocents something that you could stomach during a playthrough of a game? Is it something that you think most gamers could handle?


As PH said, "It's cyberpunk GTA!"

;D

On June 07 2012 10:22 FabledIntegral wrote:
It looks really cool, but I fear insane repetitiveness, similar to that of Assassins Creed.


Oh it will be. Just like GTA.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
June 07 2012 17:00 GMT
#75
anyone else feel like this game is going to get old kind of fast unless they integrate a lot more tools?
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
June 07 2012 17:11 GMT
#76
yeah this feels really gimmicky. i was expecting alot from all the hype. game companies really should start branching off of the whole "open world but you can do this one thing differently from gta!" but i like more linear games.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 07 2012 17:52 GMT
#77
On June 08 2012 02:00 JiYan wrote:
anyone else feel like this game is going to get old kind of fast unless they integrate a lot more tools?

yeah definitely, just gotta hope the developers pull through
blabberrrrr
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
June 07 2012 18:22 GMT
#78
I'm hoping for the best, but I'm not holding my breath.
xParadoxi
Profile Joined September 2011
United States78 Posts
June 08 2012 01:27 GMT
#79
I am really into this kind of Futuristic Conspiracy type stuff. So it made me really want to play the game. Although I agree with what a lot of you said. I could easily see it becoming repetitive.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
June 10 2013 05:47 GMT
#80
A very cool E3 real CGI trailer that was "leaked" (yeah right).

http://vimeo.com/67988814
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 10 2013 06:01 GMT
#81
Very interesting trailer. Makes me want to see more.
zbedlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia549 Posts
June 10 2013 11:34 GMT
#82
So basically its a sandbox set in real life except all IT services are more centralised?
Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-11 16:47:48
June 11 2013 16:47 GMT
#83
The gameplay demo frem E3:

Damn this game looks cool
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 17 2013 18:31 GMT
#84
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
October 09 2013 03:32 GMT
#85
Anyone looking to play this game?
and why is the specs for this game so ridiculous??

you need high end cpu and gpu cards to even be able to run it at low quality.


how much would a pc build cost to build a pc that can run this game at medium - high quality? and will that pc be able to run SC2 at ultra quality?
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
October 09 2013 06:22 GMT
#86
On October 09 2013 12:32 IMKR wrote:
Anyone looking to play this game?
and why is the specs for this game so ridiculous??

you need high end cpu and gpu cards to even be able to run it at low quality.


how much would a pc build cost to build a pc that can run this game at medium - high quality? and will that pc be able to run SC2 at ultra quality?

My PC runs SC2 at ultra quality no sweat but isn't close to the recommended requirements for Watchdogs.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12390 Posts
October 09 2013 06:31 GMT
#87
On October 09 2013 12:32 IMKR wrote:
Anyone looking to play this game?
and why is the specs for this game so ridiculous??

you need high end cpu and gpu cards to even be able to run it at low quality.


how much would a pc build cost to build a pc that can run this game at medium - high quality? and will that pc be able to run SC2 at ultra quality?

honestly I am not surprised given how good it looks and being a huge open world
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 15 2013 17:45 GMT
#88
The game has been delayed to spring 2014.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
October 15 2013 18:12 GMT
#89
On October 16 2013 02:45 zoLo wrote:
The game has been delayed to spring 2014.


Better delayed than released unfinished...
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Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
October 15 2013 18:37 GMT
#90
They have delayed The Crew as well.

Kind of odd with Watch Dogs because it was so close to release date and now it's delayed, The Crew was still a good 5+ months off in all probability.
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chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
October 15 2013 19:01 GMT
#91
Oh god now the crying will begin. Rather delay it than deliver an unfinished product.

People will never be satisfied. If this wouldve been delivered 95% ready, people would whine why ubisoft would release an unpolished game....
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
April 28 2014 13:54 GMT
#92
Sorry to bump this, but interesting stuff has been released about multiplayer!


''Watch Dogs developer Ubisoft Montreal doesn’t think of the game as having traditional multiplayer, but rather a “seamless online” experience.

“We don’t talk about it in terms of single-player and multiplayer,” Lead Gameplay Designer Danny Belanger said in a post on Ubisoft’s blog. “It’s all online. It’s seamless. You continue your game. That aspect, for me, is crucial because otherwise it’s a break in the experience.”

As you’ve probably seen in the recently released 9-minute video, you can play Watch Dogs online with other players in a variety of modes, but you don’t just choose these from a menu as you do in so many other games.

Other players can invade your game at any time as long as you’re not doing anything that could be disrupted (a story mission, for example), and Watch Dogs will also try to learn how much of an online experience you’re looking for.

“We have a shield,” Belanger said. “So if someone comes into your game and hacks you, you’re protected. It can’t happen. The less you partake in the multiplayer, the longer the shield. If you’re not hacking people and you’re not into that gameplay, the game will recognize and acknowledge that you’re not into that. That’s fine.” If you want, you can also toggle off the online multiplayer options completely in the game’s menu.

Another cool way in which Watch Dogs keeps this online experience seamless is that you never play as anyone but the main character, Aiden Pearce. Even online, you’ll always see yourself as Pearce, but to every other player you’ll look like a “fixer,” whose appearance is chosen from a pool of NPCs.''
- Gamespot article

Really starting to get interested now. I was interested at first, then my hype kind of dried up and now it's back. Sucks I won't have time in the first two weeks of the game's release, otherwise I might've preordered it. The game looks to be very good and a good timesink again. Will many of you start playing this game? 0o
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 08 2014 12:12 GMT
#93
really interested in Watch Dogs now. But the multiplayer doesn't sound too intriguing, doesn't matter too much, but they should advertise it better if it is truly as superb as they herald
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12390 Posts
May 08 2014 12:39 GMT
#94
apparently they have toned down the graphics a lot in the most recent gameplay trailers, have to say i am pretty disappointed but I blame only myself for not expecting it to happen
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
May 08 2014 13:06 GMT
#95
On May 08 2014 21:39 ETisME wrote:
apparently they have toned down the graphics a lot in the most recent gameplay trailers, have to say i am pretty disappointed but I blame only myself for not expecting it to happen


Did they? I thought the newest trailers are from a PS3 version, not PC. Angry Joe recently did an interview on this with a developer. You can look it up at his youtube channel. AFAIK graphics for the PC weren't touched.
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
May 08 2014 13:59 GMT
#96
On May 08 2014 21:39 ETisME wrote:
apparently they have toned down the graphics a lot in the most recent gameplay trailers, have to say i am pretty disappointed but I blame only myself for not expecting it to happen


What platform were the gameplay trailers done on? I wouldn't make any assumptions without that knowledge, since this game is also being released for the 360/PS3, and we know how shit those consoles are. Since this is a next-gen title, one would hope they would design the graphics for PS4/XBONE (or PC, ideally), and then tone them down to work on older consoles. It's what Dark Souls 2 did...and while that game isn't really graphically impressive, there is a noticeable difference in quality between the PC and 360/PS3 versions.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16707 Posts
May 22 2014 23:44 GMT
#97
government subsidies lower quality.
i don't trust anything subsidized by the Quebec government.

its been 5.5 years in the making.
i bet it sucks balls.

it's going to be fascinating to see the game and observe its reception.
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lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
May 22 2014 23:50 GMT
#98
I am so pumped for this game, comes out the day before my birthday, shame ill also be starting my new job, won't be alot of playing time ):
Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
May 23 2014 00:22 GMT
#99
Game came free with my GTX 780. Looks promising, though I'm not too hopeful considering it's been watered down to be playable on consoles. Will definitely try it out once it's released, though.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-23 17:14:24
May 23 2014 17:12 GMT
#100
So I started playing with it today on my ps3.Well I must say im disappointed.Expected a lot more.The graphics are way worse than say GTA5.Gameplay is repetitive,and gets uber boring after an hour.For example:Crime intervention.Its happening every 2 minute....Its like you dont even bother preventing the crime coz its always the same.Get to the area,scan for potential criminals/victims,wait for it to happen and the bam takedown...You get a few xp plus some reputation.Skill tree is ridic..Typical new era,simplyfied toned down.
I will give it one more try tomorrow,focusing on the main storyline,maybe it gets better there.
Oh and one more thing:The music they are basically forcing on u while u are driving is crazy..U can change channels obiously but all of the channels are annoying.Its worse than it was in GTA5.

Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 23 2014 17:27 GMT
#101
On May 24 2014 02:12 pokerface wrote:
So I started playing with it today on my ps3.Well I must say im disappointed.Expected a lot more.The graphics are way worse than say GTA5.Gameplay is repetitive,and gets uber boring after an hour.For example:Crime intervention.Its happening every 2 minute....Its like you dont even bother preventing the crime coz its always the same.Get to the area,scan for potential criminals/victims,wait for it to happen and the bam takedown...You get a few xp plus some reputation.Skill tree is ridic..Typical new era,simplyfied toned down.
I will give it one more try tomorrow,focusing on the main storyline,maybe it gets better there.
Oh and one more thing:The music they are basically forcing on u while u are driving is crazy..U can change channels obiously but all of the channels are annoying.Its worse than it was in GTA5.



Anybody who expected otherwise is deluded lol.
Useless wet fish.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 24 2014 18:37 GMT
#102
Anyone get a chance to try this on PC? Some early copies are getting leaked. Got to try it for a bit before uninstalling. It's not a day 1 purchase for me; but if I see my main issues with the game fixed, I'll be buying it shortly.

My main annoyances were the driving physics and destruction were pretty weak. I doubt they'll change it, but I really was hoping for at least GTA IV level.

The HUD is too big in my opinion, especially with subtitles on it feels a bit blocky.

Field of Distance or whatever it is that loads details from afar such as buildings, trees, cars or even people is shit as fuck. It's 2011/LA Noire level where random shit will pop up or be 'etched' in. That's my biggest grip and by far the most prevalent.

Other than that. Some FPS issues, I assume Day 1 patch will fix it. Couldn't even play it on High and I have a 4 gig 760GTX Nvidia (8 gigs of ram)
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Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
May 24 2014 19:54 GMT
#103
I have a PC copy of it currently, it seems okay so far.

The FPS is chopping at times. I'll post more as I play more.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
May 25 2014 18:55 GMT
#104
On May 25 2014 03:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Anyone get a chance to try this on PC? Some early copies are getting leaked. Got to try it for a bit before uninstalling. It's not a day 1 purchase for me; but if I see my main issues with the game fixed, I'll be buying it shortly.

My main annoyances were the driving physics and destruction were pretty weak. I doubt they'll change it, but I really was hoping for at least GTA IV level.

The HUD is too big in my opinion, especially with subtitles on it feels a bit blocky.

Field of Distance or whatever it is that loads details from afar such as buildings, trees, cars or even people is shit as fuck. It's 2011/LA Noire level where random shit will pop up or be 'etched' in. That's my biggest grip and by far the most prevalent.

Other than that. Some FPS issues, I assume Day 1 patch will fix it. Couldn't even play it on High and I have a 4 gig 760GTX Nvidia (8 gigs of ram)

Um. This is weird. My 770GTX / 4.2GHz i7 run it on ultra at 2560x1600 at stable 50 FPS. I tuned down AA but that's about it. I also found the HUD a bit on the small side but that comes from my resolution I'd assume.

Does anyone know if there are solid sites that sell just the key for cheap? Since you're going to have to run uplay anyway, might as well shoot for that...
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-25 18:57:50
May 25 2014 18:57 GMT
#105
On May 26 2014 03:55 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 03:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Anyone get a chance to try this on PC? Some early copies are getting leaked. Got to try it for a bit before uninstalling. It's not a day 1 purchase for me; but if I see my main issues with the game fixed, I'll be buying it shortly.

My main annoyances were the driving physics and destruction were pretty weak. I doubt they'll change it, but I really was hoping for at least GTA IV level.

The HUD is too big in my opinion, especially with subtitles on it feels a bit blocky.

Field of Distance or whatever it is that loads details from afar such as buildings, trees, cars or even people is shit as fuck. It's 2011/LA Noire level where random shit will pop up or be 'etched' in. That's my biggest grip and by far the most prevalent.

Other than that. Some FPS issues, I assume Day 1 patch will fix it. Couldn't even play it on High and I have a 4 gig 760GTX Nvidia (8 gigs of ram)

Um. This is weird. My 770GTX / 4.2GHz i7 run it on ultra at 2560x1600 at stable 50 FPS. I tuned down AA but that's about it. I also found the HUD a bit on the small side but that comes from my resolution I'd assume.

Does anyone know if there are solid sites that sell just the key for cheap? Since you're going to have to run uplay anyway, might as well shoot for that...


Ah, I'm i5 3.40 GHz
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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
May 25 2014 19:52 GMT
#106
On May 26 2014 03:55 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 03:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
Anyone get a chance to try this on PC? Some early copies are getting leaked. Got to try it for a bit before uninstalling. It's not a day 1 purchase for me; but if I see my main issues with the game fixed, I'll be buying it shortly.

My main annoyances were the driving physics and destruction were pretty weak. I doubt they'll change it, but I really was hoping for at least GTA IV level.

The HUD is too big in my opinion, especially with subtitles on it feels a bit blocky.

Field of Distance or whatever it is that loads details from afar such as buildings, trees, cars or even people is shit as fuck. It's 2011/LA Noire level where random shit will pop up or be 'etched' in. That's my biggest grip and by far the most prevalent.

Other than that. Some FPS issues, I assume Day 1 patch will fix it. Couldn't even play it on High and I have a 4 gig 760GTX Nvidia (8 gigs of ram)

Um. This is weird. My 770GTX / 4.2GHz i7 run it on ultra at 2560x1600 at stable 50 FPS. I tuned down AA but that's about it. I also found the HUD a bit on the small side but that comes from my resolution I'd assume.

Does anyone know if there are solid sites that sell just the key for cheap? Since you're going to have to run uplay anyway, might as well shoot for that...


Yeah, the game was running like shit for me at 1st (GTX 770, 8GB RAM, i5 4670k @ 3.8), i literally just backed off on the AA from 8XMSAA, to FXAA, and getting an easy 60 fps here, actually running really great right now, better than fucking Wolfenstein, at least theres no texture pop anyways.
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 25 2014 19:56 GMT
#107
how are you guys playing it on PC? I got a pre-order when purchasing a gfx but it says the release is the 27th :o
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
May 25 2014 20:26 GMT
#108
We downloaded the hacked version,either PC or PS3.
Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
May 25 2014 21:58 GMT
#109
im running it with an i5 2500k @4.5ghz and a 780.

im playing at everything ultra with AA at TXAA x2

i get usually around 45-60fps, sometimes dropping about 35 for a few seconds.

Game looks very good
¯\_(☺)_/¯
tqdhn
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany7 Posts
May 25 2014 22:17 GMT
#110
I played 2 hrs of it and then quit. The Game is so fucking boring. I did like 2 mainmissions (still tutorial I guess) 1 sidemission and hacked 3 radio-towers, then I quit of boredom.
The gunplay and driving is fucking awful! You can drive with 200km/h into a wall and you barely see any damage. And the UI is terrible to control with a Mouse, especially the Talent-Tree.

Better save your money and ignore this shitty Game.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
May 25 2014 22:17 GMT
#111
so much hype for this game yet it sucks balls. disappointment of the year?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
May 25 2014 23:09 GMT
#112
On May 26 2014 07:17 zev318 wrote:
so much hype for this game yet it sucks balls. disappointment of the year?


not for me! I expected nothing esle from this game, but tropico series was like my last city builder resort, but that also got consolified for no reason.




This game sounds a lot like the first assassins creed, where it principle it was a cool game, but it was just 100 times doing the same thing over and over with no variation.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
May 26 2014 00:25 GMT
#113
On May 26 2014 08:09 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 07:17 zev318 wrote:
so much hype for this game yet it sucks balls. disappointment of the year?


not for me! I expected nothing esle from this game, but tropico series was like my last city builder resort, but that also got consolified for no reason.




This game sounds a lot like the first assassins creed, where it principle it was a cool game, but it was just 100 times doing the same thing over and over with no variation.

Honestly, I'm kind of fine with the latter. I enjoyed what Assassins Creed threw at me again and again because it felt pretty damn fun. What Watch Dogs does good it does so good that I enjoy doing it over and over again. The whole "start hacking from this camera and then work your way through"-gameplay is technically repetitive but fun enough to me to keep doing it for a while in different variations.

I'm actually more annoyed that I feel like I have to play with mouse (shooting) + controller (driving) and I'm still tripping over the controls at times. qq.
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ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
May 26 2014 01:06 GMT
#114
For those that torrented it, make sure you didn't also download a bitcoin/ltc miner. I read that those people that downloaded a certain torrent are now mining coins for the host which would explain some poor performance issues.
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
May 26 2014 02:00 GMT
#115
On May 26 2014 10:06 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
For those that torrented it, make sure you didn't also download a bitcoin/ltc miner. I read that those people that downloaded a certain torrent are now mining coins for the host which would explain some poor performance issues.


Frankly im not worried, been doing this sort of thing for over 5 years, never once have i had a virus/rootkit, and if my PC was mining BitCoins, i would notice since performance would drop. I doubt id be able to play this game maxed out, @ 60FPS AND be mining bitcoins at the same time. My PC is awesome, but not THAT awesome haha.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12390 Posts
May 26 2014 02:35 GMT
#116
Game is very average.
I think they are just not getting what's fun about an open world game?

One thing that I have always hoped for is the development of AI. Remember the first time you play F.E.A.R.?
The AI were ground breaking, flanking, taking cover etc
In an open world game, the immersion is often spoiled by poor AI and this problem is especially shown here in watchdog.
You can charge into a kissing couple, they would say sorry to YOU and act like they never knew eachother.
Or they dropped an umbrella and never bother about it again.

While the profiling help to give more info for each bot but that's it. No one react to anything differently.

The driving is as mentioned very bad. I don't mind the gun play that much.
There is nothing to explore, the whole world feels soulless and unattractive.

其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
May 26 2014 02:49 GMT
#117
On May 26 2014 11:35 ETisME wrote:
Game is very average.
I think they are just not getting what's fun about an open world game?

One thing that I have always hoped for is the development of AI. Remember the first time you play F.E.A.R.?
The AI were ground breaking, flanking, taking cover etc
In an open world game, the immersion is often spoiled by poor AI and this problem is especially shown here in watchdog.
You can charge into a kissing couple, they would say sorry to YOU and act like they never knew eachother.
Or they dropped an umbrella and never bother about it again.

While the profiling help to give more info for each bot but that's it. No one react to anything differently.

The driving is as mentioned very bad. I don't mind the gun play that much.
There is nothing to explore, the whole world feels soulless and unattractive.



Man F.E.A.R was so fucking good, i almost re-installed it recently lol. Played some Wolfenstein, and while i think its fun, something about it made me think of FEAR, maybe since there's so much blood and particle effects, which i remember alot of in FEAR. Ahh, memories.

Back on topic, im about 3 hours into Watch Dogs, and im enjoying it, albeit, it does seem quite shallow when compared to GTA 5. But hey, GTA 5 for me, was hard to play since i find it difficult to play @ 30 FPS, and terrible aliasing everywhere, PC gaming spoils some things i suppose. But i did have one cool moment in WD, kind of accidental too, since I didnt see the point of hacking stop lights. I was in a car chase, following some dude, i just held Q at an interesction which switched the stop light color, the traffic perpendicular to us just T-boned the shit out of him, then i got out of my car, walked up to his car and shot him in the face. I thought it was pretty entertaining heh.
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Tileks
Profile Joined January 2013
Brazil74 Posts
May 26 2014 02:50 GMT
#118
On May 26 2014 11:35 ETisME wrote:
Game is very average.
I think they are just not getting what's fun about an open world game?

One thing that I have always hoped for is the development of AI. Remember the first time you play F.E.A.R.?
The AI were ground breaking, flanking, taking cover etc
In an open world game, the immersion is often spoiled by poor AI and this problem is especially shown here in watchdog.
You can charge into a kissing couple, they would say sorry to YOU and act like they never knew eachother.
Or they dropped an umbrella and never bother about it again.

While the profiling help to give more info for each bot but that's it. No one react to anything differently.

The driving is as mentioned very bad. I don't mind the gun play that much.
There is nothing to explore, the whole world feels soulless and unattractive.



Maybe, just maybe, the online component is good and the game is worth the price. Right now the game, for me, is not worth full price.
sparkk51
Profile Joined August 2011
United States137 Posts
May 26 2014 03:17 GMT
#119
I am going to be so mad when I see scores of 8 or more on review sites. This game is an easy 5 to me, and the graphics arent really the problem so much as the gameplay. I feel like there is literally nothing to do but run around hitting Q.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
May 26 2014 03:33 GMT
#120
it was clear from all the previews and the videos that it's a GTA clone with some different elements. You're kidding yourself if you thought otherwise. It's just a matter of whether or not it can be a solid GTA clone like Sleeping Dogs.
blabberrrrr
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 26 2014 06:18 GMT
#121
I really expected the car destruction to be remotely decent. Even games from 2011 (LA Noire) did better for Christ's sake
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 26 2014 07:47 GMT
#122
Game runs pretty badly on crossfired 270X's

Got between 45-60 fps indoor's on HIGH. Didn't bother getting through the tutorial because crossfire is also completely broken.

Textures flickering black. MSAA is broken with crossfire and created some sort of weird ghosting.

Apparently some beta drivers will be released tomorrow. So hopefully that will make the game playable.






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bosshd
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
Belgium72 Posts
May 26 2014 08:09 GMT
#123
On May 26 2014 12:17 sparkk51 wrote:
I am going to be so mad when I see scores of 8 or more on review sites. This game is an easy 5 to me, and the graphics arent really the problem so much as the gameplay. I feel like there is literally nothing to do but run around hitting Q.

.
http://www.xboxbreak.nl/nieuws/eerste-echte-watch-dogs-review-geeft-game-19-van-20-punten-almost-perfect/


19/20 they give it a perfect score lol . u just got rekt
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pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
May 26 2014 08:24 GMT
#124
Glad im not the only one who thinks its garbage.
I just wanted to have some fun game..Is it really that hard?
Now that this one went in the sink,my only hope in PC gaming is: Torment and Pillars of Eternity
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 26 2014 10:00 GMT
#125
On May 26 2014 11:00 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 10:06 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
For those that torrented it, make sure you didn't also download a bitcoin/ltc miner. I read that those people that downloaded a certain torrent are now mining coins for the host which would explain some poor performance issues.


Frankly im not worried, been doing this sort of thing for over 5 years, never once have i had a virus/rootkit, and if my PC was mining BitCoins, i would notice since performance would drop. I doubt id be able to play this game maxed out, @ 60FPS AND be mining bitcoins at the same time. My PC is awesome, but not THAT awesome haha.

I got the bitcoin thingy installed by a weird ass install and damn that thing was slowing me down. Now I have another version which runs just fine (despite some massive lag spike on the driveway)
teer
Profile Joined September 2010
United States189 Posts
May 26 2014 10:41 GMT
#126
played a few hours and lost interest. sleeping dogs is still the most fun dogs game. sadly underwhelmed. i dont like that he's always looking down at his phone either. The controls feel delayed as well. Mouse and keyboard are a pain to use especially in the menu's. Great concept just boring execution. I did not want to keep playing.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 26 2014 10:51 GMT
#127
-- Some renewed interest after seeing this gameplay video. Time-slowing is something I really like even though the car chasing and car destruction was absolutely pathetic.

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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 26 2014 11:24 GMT
#128
On May 26 2014 19:41 teer wrote:
played a few hours and lost interest. sleeping dogs is still the most fun dogs game. sadly underwhelmed. i dont like that he's always looking down at his phone either. The controls feel delayed as well. Mouse and keyboard are a pain to use especially in the menu's. Great concept just boring execution. I did not want to keep playing.

Buy a gamepad, friend ! I bought one recently for Dynasty Warriors and this. I don't regret it. Less hand strains, farther away from the screen etc etc !
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 11:35:06
May 26 2014 11:30 GMT
#129
SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.

The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?
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pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
May 26 2014 12:02 GMT
#130
On May 26 2014 20:30 Thalandros wrote:
SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.

The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?

After you have played few hours with it you'll be here telling us how we were right,about this game being shitty.
I mean many ppl here mentioned a lot of stuff being super bad about the game.Imagine this:You are racing down the street with 200km/h and crashing in the wall frontally.Results?Not even a dent my friend.Thats how realistic this game is
tqdhn
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany7 Posts
May 26 2014 12:06 GMT
#131
Sorry, but the Hacking is no new Mechanic! Its just a Ranged-Use Spell.

The only fun moment I had in WatchDogs was when I got on a rampage and escaped the Police by getting away in a elevated railway, like in the movies. :o
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 12:25:46
May 26 2014 12:24 GMT
#132
On May 26 2014 21:02 pokerface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 20:30 Thalandros wrote:
SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.

The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?

After you have played few hours with it you'll be here telling us how we were right,about this game being shitty.
I mean many ppl here mentioned a lot of stuff being super bad about the game.Imagine this:You are racing down the street with 200km/h and crashing in the wall frontally.Results?Not even a dent my friend.Thats how realistic this game is

I've seen different in atleast a dozen videos. Is that just a bug then? Because I've seen a lot of cases where it doesn't go that way. Also, MOST GTA-like games don't get their car total-loss after a hit with a wall. If that'd be as realistic as could be, there'd be no actual fun playing the game because 1. the game's car mechanics aren't perfect 2. The majority of the players is horseshit at controlling vehicles.

I've spent 80 hrs on Saints Row 3. That game's car mechanics aren't great, nor is it realistic in any way shape or form and has obvious flaws. But I like racing (with friends) in a city, I like shooting up (or in this game, destroying things by hacking) gangs and stuff and I like the campaign of these kinds of games. Even the people that despise this game the most I've heard say it's similar to GTA 5, which is fine by me (I didn't play GTAIV obviously, but I know how the mechanics feel for the GTA games.) I Like running around, hacking people, doing weird stuff, some missions etc, and making a bridge go up or causing a blackout just adds to that, I think (from what I've seen) it's really cool, and the thing that'll probably most impact me is the controls, how loose they are and how good they feel. I'm pretty stoked.

I'm just surprised so many people got their hands on it. Did everyone get so lucky with their order? (Do people actually physically order games anymore..?)
On May 26 2014 21:06 tqdhn wrote:
Sorry, but the Hacking is no new Mechanic! Its just a Ranged-Use Spell.

The only fun moment I had in WatchDogs was when I got on a rampage and escaped the Police by getting away in a elevated railway, like in the movies. :o


Bullshit. There's a bunch of different elements that make it an entirely new mechanic. I'm not talking about changing all the trafficlights, I'm talking about doing a mission with just hacking. I'm talking about all the extra (mostly useless, but still fun) information you get by hacking. The way you can add the hacking to your strategy. That's not just pressing Q.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12390 Posts
May 26 2014 13:21 GMT
#133
On May 26 2014 20:30 Thalandros wrote:
SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.

The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?

It's not amazing, it's not trash either.

It's wrong to think it is GTA clone because it is nothing like GTA.
GTA offers diversity and huge open world and different ways to play the game, watchdog isn't.

In GTA, you can be cops, you can be taxi driver, you can be firefighter, you can fly jets, golf, tennis whatever.

Watchdog is all about scanning around, chase down suspects and unlocking new regions for you to hack people profile
It reminds me of prototype, it's a fun game of its own, but not a AAA title for sure and it gets repetitive very quickly.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 13:55:49
May 26 2014 13:55 GMT
#134
On May 26 2014 22:21 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 20:30 Thalandros wrote:
SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.

The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?

It's not amazing, it's not trash either.

It's wrong to think it is GTA clone because it is nothing like GTA.
GTA offers diversity and huge open world and different ways to play the game, watchdog isn't.

In GTA, you can be cops, you can be taxi driver, you can be firefighter, you can fly jets, golf, tennis whatever.

Watchdog is all about scanning around, chase down suspects and unlocking new regions for you to hack people profile
It reminds me of prototype, it's a fun game of its own, but not a AAA title for sure and it gets repetitive very quickly.


sounds like Assasins Creed. Getting somewhere, unlock the map, do all the quests which are always pretty similar etc.
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tqdhn
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany7 Posts
May 26 2014 14:04 GMT
#135
That's not just pressing Q.


Wrong Mr. Ubisoft PR-Guy. It is just pressing Q to disable/enable stuff.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
May 26 2014 14:16 GMT
#136
On May 26 2014 23:04 tqdhn wrote:
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That's not just pressing Q.


Wrong Mr. Ubisoft PR-Guy. It is just pressing Q to disable/enable stuff.


Dont get carried away.If he belives its a good game then let him try it.Dont need to be rude.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 26 2014 14:38 GMT
#137
On May 26 2014 23:16 pokerface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 23:04 tqdhn wrote:
That's not just pressing Q.


Wrong Mr. Ubisoft PR-Guy. It is just pressing Q to disable/enable stuff.


Dont get carried away.If he belives its a good game then let him try it.Dont need to be rude.


Hey i done nothing wrong !

OT : So no buy at full price ? Is there more people happy with it ? Watch Dog ? Or Wolfenstein ?
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tqdhn
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany7 Posts
May 26 2014 14:50 GMT
#138
If you still want to play that Game: Wait until tomorrow for the "official reviews" and watch/read all of them. Then decide yourself.

If someone has Performance Problems on Nvidia Cards, a new Driver is out
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/75991/en-us

+ Show Spoiler [New in GeForce 337.88 Game Ready WHQL…] +

Game Ready - This 337.88 Game Ready WHQL driver ensures you'll have the best possible gaming experience for Watch Dogs.

Performance – Introduces key DirectX optimizations which result in reduced game-loading times and significant performance increases across a wide variety of games compared with the previous 335.23 WHQL. Significant CPU overhead reductions in the driver result in performance gains that will often favor CPU-bottlenecked situations. Per usual, results will vary depending on your GPU, system configuration, and game settings.
jxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil307 Posts
May 26 2014 14:51 GMT
#139
I wouldn't buy it at full price. Nothing in this game is justifying that yet. But we still need to see how the multiplayer will work.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
May 26 2014 15:03 GMT
#140
On May 26 2014 23:50 tqdhn wrote:
If you still want to play that Game: Wait until tomorrow for the "official reviews" and watch/read all of them. Then decide yourself.

If someone has Performance Problems on Nvidia Cards, a new Driver is out
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/75991/en-us

+ Show Spoiler [New in GeForce 337.88 Game Ready WHQL…] +

Game Ready - This 337.88 Game Ready WHQL driver ensures you'll have the best possible gaming experience for Watch Dogs.

Performance – Introduces key DirectX optimizations which result in reduced game-loading times and significant performance increases across a wide variety of games compared with the previous 335.23 WHQL. Significant CPU overhead reductions in the driver result in performance gains that will often favor CPU-bottlenecked situations. Per usual, results will vary depending on your GPU, system configuration, and game settings.


Its funny cause im on 314.22 drivers (from over a year ago at this point) using a GTX 770, and my performance has been solid. And thats on an early leak, which might not even be optimized either, will probably wait awhile before upping my drivers haha.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 26 2014 16:30 GMT
#141
On May 26 2014 23:04 tqdhn wrote:
Show nested quote +
That's not just pressing Q.


Wrong Mr. Ubisoft PR-Guy. It is just pressing Q to disable/enable stuff.



Alright, no reason to hate on a game without giving sufficient arguments to do so, especially on a game that isn't officially out yet, but I think it's cool that you can blow stuff up, create cover, hover around an area using cameras and being sneaky (something which other open world games like GTA/SR certainly lack). And that's not just mindlessly pressing Q.
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Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
May 26 2014 16:51 GMT
#142
Whereas you're praising a game that isn't out yet...
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 19:18:19
May 26 2014 19:17 GMT
#143
On May 27 2014 01:51 Ethenielle wrote:
Whereas you're praising a game that isn't out yet...

I'm basing it on what I've seen and read from reputable sources and players, and I like what I'm seeing. You don't need to ''play'' a game to know what features it has and how cool those features are. How they play out, sure, but to know of their existance, you don't need to play at all.
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Dybdal
Profile Joined July 2005
Denmark67 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-26 20:04:25
May 26 2014 19:54 GMT
#144
Bought the game and so far i feel its a great game in every aspect except as a "car" driving game. The premise of alot of missions require you to outrun something in the streets of fake Chicago and the roads are extremly bumpy and makes your car go airborne at even modest speeds and not to mention the fact that you have to drive the cars realisticly (so no speeds in corners at all, unless you want to murder three people, a lamp post and two cars everytime you do it) and that just makes it a very frustrating experience overall.

There is the option of going with motorcycles that just ignores all of that and handles like a car straight out of an arcade game but you cant allways do that as missions dictate you to drive different cars.

Everything else is super fun.

Oh and one more thing that is just extremly dumb.. is that you can raise guard rails to smash chasing police cars and such but doing so spins the camera around to look at the carnage in slow motion all the while the entire world is continuing (it isnt paused) so if this happens in a corner or.. your not dead straight on the road.. your mowing down people, hitting lampposts or smashing into cars before the camera returns to its regular position and you can actualy see where your going.

TL:DR: Wicked sick game, everything that sets it apart from GTA is awsome as all hell everything it has in common is very lacking (aka the city layout, the cars)

[got my copy a day early from gamestop pre'order if someone is confused]
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
May 26 2014 21:53 GMT
#145
@above: I think most of what you're mentioning is more of a controls issue. The "look back in slow motion" for example is a non-issue when using a controller, if you let go of the right stick it turns back quickly enough. If using a mouse what happens is if you make any motion at all it pretends you put the camera there on purpose and now have to turn it back (aka crash into shit).

Also speed in corners and stuff like that feels like an almost impossible challenge with m+kb but then is possible reasonably with a controller.

This is the one thing that annoys the hell out of me with this game. Compared to e.g. Batman or Assassins Creed controller feels crappy for lots of situations (shooting, swapping between cameras and stuff) but on the other hand keyboard feels crappy when driving. Hell, I end up stuck in cover when I don't want to with kb+m all the time but it never seems to happen with a controller.

._.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
May 26 2014 21:59 GMT
#146
On May 26 2014 22:55 Chexx wrote:
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On May 26 2014 22:21 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2014 20:30 Thalandros wrote:
SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.

The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?

It's not amazing, it's not trash either.

It's wrong to think it is GTA clone because it is nothing like GTA.
GTA offers diversity and huge open world and different ways to play the game, watchdog isn't.

In GTA, you can be cops, you can be taxi driver, you can be firefighter, you can fly jets, golf, tennis whatever.

Watchdog is all about scanning around, chase down suspects and unlocking new regions for you to hack people profile
It reminds me of prototype, it's a fun game of its own, but not a AAA title for sure and it gets repetitive very quickly.


sounds like Assasins Creed. Getting somewhere, unlock the map, do all the quests which are always pretty similar etc.


yes i got that impression too from tuning into a twitch stream. The entire UI feels so much like assassins creed that it already killed my entire desire to try out. Im just so very sick of the same old assassins creed concept that i want to throw up.

Really looks like it was a mod for assassins creed
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
May 26 2014 22:04 GMT
#147
On May 27 2014 06:59 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 22:55 Chexx wrote:
On May 26 2014 22:21 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2014 20:30 Thalandros wrote:
SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.

The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?

It's not amazing, it's not trash either.

It's wrong to think it is GTA clone because it is nothing like GTA.
GTA offers diversity and huge open world and different ways to play the game, watchdog isn't.

In GTA, you can be cops, you can be taxi driver, you can be firefighter, you can fly jets, golf, tennis whatever.

Watchdog is all about scanning around, chase down suspects and unlocking new regions for you to hack people profile
It reminds me of prototype, it's a fun game of its own, but not a AAA title for sure and it gets repetitive very quickly.


sounds like Assasins Creed. Getting somewhere, unlock the map, do all the quests which are always pretty similar etc.


yes i got that impression too from tuning into a twitch stream. The entire UI feels so much like assassins creed that it already killed my entire desire to try out. Im just so very sick of the same old assassins creed concept that i want to throw up.

Really looks like it was a mod for assassins creed

It honestly doesn't feel like that for me. The features that feel similar are very few (hacking a new CTOS site = eaaaaaaaaaaglevision) and different enough to only be around for a short chuckle here and there. Your average fight against stationary installation is doing as much damage as you can without being seen and then trying to finish off the rest with guns or melee (which is rather scary since you basically die in 2-3 hits on hard difficulty). I think you can do most things without ever being noticed but that can get kind of hard.
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Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
May 27 2014 00:24 GMT
#148
people expect this game to be like some kinda classic masterpiece when it comes out and are dissapointed when its not perfect. after playing this game id give it about a 7/10 its a fun open world game and so far i find the storyline interesting enough.

just play the game and enjoy it, stop worrying about every flaw
¯\_(☺)_/¯
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
May 27 2014 01:46 GMT
#149
On May 27 2014 09:24 Kojak21 wrote:
people expect this game to be like some kinda classic masterpiece when it comes out and are dissapointed when its not perfect. after playing this game id give it about a 7/10 its a fun open world game and so far i find the storyline interesting enough.

just play the game and enjoy it, stop worrying about every flaw


Yeah, pretty much agree here. If your expectations are too high, it can make the game feel worse than it really is. Its a fun game, that's all there is to it for me, its not the show stopper some of us may have wanted, but that doesn't diminish the fact that I am still having fun playing this game.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 09:27:46
May 27 2014 09:18 GMT
#150


TB's review.

I'm enjoying it so far. Its VERY Ubisoft, which is not necessarily a bad thing, Far Cry 3 is awesome, and I haven't really played much of AC so i'm not too bored of that style yet.
Some of the design decisions are way off, but its fun.
I expected more of a serious game than this, but its really just a playground, and a pretty fun one at that.

edit: 29:30 for TB using framerate as an excuse for terrible aim
RIP Meatloaf <3
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
May 27 2014 09:33 GMT
#151
My enjoyment of the game went up quite alot when I switched to my 360 controller. Driving is actually totally fine with a controller, and the UI does seem to be better suited for a gamepad, which sucks, since I always play with M/Kb, but what can ya do.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
May 27 2014 09:40 GMT
#152
On May 27 2014 18:33 rebuffering wrote:
My enjoyment of the game went up quite alot when I switched to my 360 controller. Driving is actually totally fine with a controller, and the UI does seem to be better suited for a gamepad, which sucks, since I always play with M/Kb, but what can ya do.

Yeah its designed for gamepad.
I'm gonna have to work on my gamepad aim, which right now is fucking awful.
RIP Meatloaf <3
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 10:46:47
May 27 2014 10:46 GMT
#153
On May 27 2014 18:40 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On May 27 2014 18:33 rebuffering wrote:
My enjoyment of the game went up quite alot when I switched to my 360 controller. Driving is actually totally fine with a controller, and the UI does seem to be better suited for a gamepad, which sucks, since I always play with M/Kb, but what can ya do.

Yeah its designed for gamepad.
I'm gonna have to work on my gamepad aim, which right now is fucking awful.


Lol same here, upgrading the Slow-Mo shit is pretty useful because of that, im definitely not as good at aiming compared to my Halo 3 days. God i miss halo...
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 10:54:11
May 27 2014 10:53 GMT
#154
On May 27 2014 18:18 Jockmcplop wrote:Far Cry 3 is awesome


How would you compare WatchDog and Farcry 3 (real question)? Because i played 10minutes of FarCry 3 and uninstalled. An exploration game where you can't save where you want and when you can finally save, puts you at a checkpoint when you load is NOT acceptable. Imagine everytime you load your Skyrim save you get back to whiterun. (Also the menu were the worst of a console port).

Are people enjoying watch dog playing on console or PC ? (real question).

So you have to play with a gamepad on PC ? What the holy motherfucking fuck is that ?

So i guess no buy for me
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 11:21:15
May 27 2014 11:16 GMT
#155
On May 27 2014 19:53 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 18:18 Jockmcplop wrote:Far Cry 3 is awesome


How would you compare WatchDog and Farcry 3 (real question)? Because i played 10minutes of FarCry 3 and uninstalled. An exploration game where you can't save where you want and when you can finally save, puts you at a checkpoint when you load is NOT acceptable. Imagine everytime you load your Skyrim save you get back to whiterun. (Also the menu were the worst of a console port).

Are people enjoying watch dog playing on console or PC ? (real question).

So you have to play with a gamepad on PC ? What the holy motherfucking fuck is that ?

So i guess no buy for me


Watch Dogs is checkpoint saving i'm afraid.
The concept is similar to both AC and Far Cry, an open world where you go around doing what you want (within very strict categories - interrupting crimes, hacking phones for money, pissing off cops or doing the story), packed with content but quite limited gamplay.

And you don't have to play with gamepad, but the controls are alot smoother and make more sense. The game is designed for gamepad and ported to m/kbd for sure.

The graphics are really nice, good level of detail, but as TB says in the review, the pop in is ridiculous. I can't believe they think that's ok on a PC.

Another plus point is the city itself, which feels really alive and responsive.

And yes, the menus are fucking horrible. Console port all the way.

I still really enjoy it, but it isn't half the game i thought it would be.

The main character is too serious. At least in Far Cry 3 there was some acknowledgement of how psychopathic your actions are, and that the main character was going through it just having a a laugh at how fun explosions, flamethrower and fields full of weed are. In watch dogs, you do some equally horrific stuff, but the vigliante angle is much harder to swallow.

There's alot of stuff you have to ignore to enjoy this game luckily for me i'm good at selectively ignoring stuff.

If you look around at reviews, they vary from very low to very high scores, and i don't believe that's just because some reviewers are paid off.
Jim Sterling, my favourite reviewer from the Escapist, gave it 9/10, but Eurogamer gave it a horrible review, as did RockPaperShotgun.
I wouldn't advise you to buy it if you aren't into the whole sandbox gameplay experience ala AC/Farcry though, because its definitely that crossed with GTA.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 27 2014 11:55 GMT
#156
This game is pretty average.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 12:00:51
May 27 2014 11:58 GMT
#157
Well FarCry 3 story is decent (i couldn't play but as everyone said he was the most awesome game i watched a let's play).

Thanks a lot for your input. I'll wait a little, watch some gameplay and the TB vid and i'll advise. Thanks for you constructive response, i thought i was maybe a little flammy That's my inner french i have to critisize (Why why can't i prevent myself to do that ?!)

But i think i'll pass. Checkpoint in 2014 just makes me wanna pukes depending on how they are handled (Checkpoints in Tomb Raider was pretty nice handled).
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SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
May 27 2014 12:35 GMT
#158
I'll consider buying it when it is on steam sale in half a year or smth
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 27 2014 13:03 GMT
#159
AMD catalyst 14.6 released.

Game still runs like arse.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
May 27 2014 13:12 GMT
#160
On May 27 2014 22:03 DarthPunk wrote:
AMD catalyst 14.6 released.

Game still runs like arse.


It runs fairly well for me.
No massive lags.

i5 2500k
8gb vengeance ram
R9 280x
RIP Meatloaf <3
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 27 2014 13:24 GMT
#161
On May 27 2014 22:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 22:03 DarthPunk wrote:
AMD catalyst 14.6 released.

Game still runs like arse.


It runs fairly well for me.
No massive lags.

i5 2500k
8gb vengeance ram
R9 280x


What is 'fairly' well? what settings? I don't have massive framedrops either. I average probably 45 fps. 60+ indoors getting to sub 30 at times whilst driving.

To me that is running like arse.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9649 Posts
May 27 2014 13:26 GMT
#162
On May 27 2014 22:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 22:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 27 2014 22:03 DarthPunk wrote:
AMD catalyst 14.6 released.

Game still runs like arse.


It runs fairly well for me.
No massive lags.

i5 2500k
8gb vengeance ram
R9 280x


What is 'fairly' well? what settings? I don't have massive framedrops either. I average probably 45 fps. 60+ indoors getting to sub 30 at times whilst driving.

To me that is running like arse.




I run it on ultra, and get between 30-60 FPS.
That's pretty low, i agree, but its smoother than, say, Arma 3.

Load times are bad though, and the pop in is so bad its almost funny.

RIP Meatloaf <3
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 27 2014 13:29 GMT
#163
On May 27 2014 22:26 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 22:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 27 2014 22:12 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 27 2014 22:03 DarthPunk wrote:
AMD catalyst 14.6 released.

Game still runs like arse.


It runs fairly well for me.
No massive lags.

i5 2500k
8gb vengeance ram
R9 280x


What is 'fairly' well? what settings? I don't have massive framedrops either. I average probably 45 fps. 60+ indoors getting to sub 30 at times whilst driving.

To me that is running like arse.




I run it on ultra, and get between 30-60 FPS.
That's pretty low, i agree, but its smoother than, say, Arma 3.

Load times are bad though, and the pop in is so bad its almost funny.



It doesn't even look that good. Actually reminds me of GTA 4 on PC. Ran like arse no matter the hardware.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 27 2014 13:30 GMT
#164
I'm just pissed that i now have to have Steam, Origin, Battle.net and UPlay.

Such a joke, i don't understand how this shit flies with Microsoft.

Give us an appstore that isn't Games for Windows Live already! All these games require Direct X anyways so why not consolidate and license it? The Apple appstore is an absolute good, not a way to squeeze indie developers.

Valve have had their time in the spotlight with Steam, now that everyone's making their own service it's time for big brother to step in.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 27 2014 14:27 GMT
#165
Downloading right now!
WriterXiao8~~
Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
May 27 2014 14:47 GMT
#166
There are times where I get very low fps but it runs fine most of the time. The game is actually very fun but the problem for me is I get a headache/dizzyness from playing it after 1-2 hours. Very annoying.
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
May 27 2014 14:47 GMT
#167
I was watching JP play this for a bit last night and he mentioned that for him the game was running at 120 FPS and looked great, but I'm not sure what kind of set up he has other than it's obviously pretty high end.

Personally, I just don't think these kind of games do it for me, but the story looked compelling enough that I'll probably pick it up when its on sale in a year and play through it once.
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 27 2014 15:15 GMT
#168
I think the problem with this game : It's just another Ubisoft open world game.
It's Assassin's creed and FarCry 3 with another skin and a few new gimmicks.

I feel like after the E3 presentation, I was expecting more, but it seems like the guys at Ubisoft are cursed to recreate the same mistakes everytime.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 27 2014 15:24 GMT
#169
Hmm.. I was expecting the graphics to be a bit better.
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
May 27 2014 16:21 GMT
#170
I'll wait,, not the ¨oh snap!!¨ game people wanted it to be,, i'll probably get it around fall or christmas..
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
May 27 2014 16:34 GMT
#171
I'll wait for sale on Steam and check it out if the price is low enough.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
May 27 2014 17:21 GMT
#172
On May 27 2014 23:47 Pibacc wrote:
There are times where I get very low fps but it runs fine most of the time. The game is actually very fun but the problem for me is I get a headache/dizzyness from playing it after 1-2 hours. Very annoying.


that indicates a major bullshit in this game. but try to get your money back. motion sickness in a AAA title is just fail
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21681 Posts
May 27 2014 17:30 GMT
#173
On May 28 2014 02:21 tadL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2014 23:47 Pibacc wrote:
There are times where I get very low fps but it runs fine most of the time. The game is actually very fun but the problem for me is I get a headache/dizzyness from playing it after 1-2 hours. Very annoying.


that indicates a major bullshit in this game. but try to get your money back. motion sickness in a AAA title is just fail

Hardly uncommon.

See if you can change the Field of View. That is normally the cause of it.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 27 2014 19:55 GMT
#174
That just smells like a rushed port job to the PC.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
May 27 2014 20:03 GMT
#175
On May 28 2014 02:30 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 02:21 tadL wrote:
On May 27 2014 23:47 Pibacc wrote:
There are times where I get very low fps but it runs fine most of the time. The game is actually very fun but the problem for me is I get a headache/dizzyness from playing it after 1-2 hours. Very annoying.


that indicates a major bullshit in this game. but try to get your money back. motion sickness in a AAA title is just fail

Hardly uncommon.

See if you can change the Field of View. That is normally the cause of it.


Using a controller can also help with the motion sickness, i too get motion sick in a lot of FPS/3rd person games. But using a controller can help since its less jerky, even at a higher stick sensitivity since the movement is much slower overall, it may not be ideal, but i would give it a shot.
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 27 2014 20:29 GMT
#176
On May 28 2014 04:55 c0ldfusion wrote:
That just smells like a rushed port job to the PC.

Which si strange, since the release got extended by about 5 months and it's native on PC. Doesn't look like it, but it's natively created on PC.

I'm really enjoying the game except for one bug. Whenever I try to upgrade battery life II (aka up to 5 bars), my game freezes and then crashes a couple seconds afterwards. I tried this with both the 14.4 and 14.6 (my current) CCC drivers, and the same issue keeps happening. It also doesn't sync with the cloud but I'm assuming that's just uPlay being uPlay. Anyone else experience this or similar things, and any solutions? :O
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pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-27 21:17:44
May 27 2014 21:17 GMT
#177
Serious question:Is Michael Jordan's Statue in the game? :D Any1 from Chicago can confirm? If it isnt....
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
May 27 2014 21:28 GMT
#178
I am really enjoying this game so far. I haven't played any of the newer GTAs (last one was Vice City) or Assassin's Creeds or anything else resembling Watch Dogs so I don't really have anything to compare it to. To me it feels full of content and pretty atmospheric as well but that might be just because I am not used to these types of games. The controls are a bit clunky somehow, but I didn't really expect anything else from a multiplatform game.

With a lower end setup I am running this game on close to lowest settings and I am not noticing any lag at all. The game has frozen up for around a quarter of a second a few times when I've been driving fast vehicles at max speeds through highways. It still looks pretty good in my eyes, even on the lowest settings but like I said, I haven't played any games with graphics as a main feature for awhile.

I can't speak on the campaign yet because I've only done a few of the missions and been freeroaming the rest of the time. As for gameplay it is good enough in my opinion. I've been sneaking through most of the content I've played so far and it's pretty cool. The combat areas are well designed for stealthy play from what I've seen. I haven't ran into anything difficult yet, but I can definitely see it happening later in the game. As for action, pointing and shooting is pretty bad but after playing games where you're meant to shoot everything these types of hybrid games always feel bad. Good shooters can only be FPS games in my opinion, I can't think of any 3rd person shooters which aren't mediocre at best.

Many people seem to dislike the vehicle physics and anything related to that. I would agree if I was expecting a car simulator, but I went in expecting more of an arcade feel which I think the game delivers on. It is weird how you won't take damage from serious vehicle accidents though.

Most annoying things so far are the controls, and the automatic profiler thing. It's such a cool thing to be able to check out people and maybe get some stuff to hack and what not, but why can't it just show the profile of the person I am pointing at? Does it have to kind of autoaim and keep the first person I see for a few seconds before moving on to the one I am keeping my aim on? It drives me insane...

I bought it for the multiplayer because it seems awesome but apparently I have to do some kind of tutorial before unlocking it. I assume it's somewhere in the campaign so I'll try to unlock it in my next session.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
May 27 2014 23:17 GMT
#179
they have started to censored the steam tags for the game.
Now it will only showe such useful tags as "#fun" and "#Masterpeice" (lol)

Try to add "DRM" or "Uplay" for example.


I hate that people buy games from these companies over and over. They complain afterwards, but then on the next hyped game, they will pay fucking 70 euro once more instead of letting the companies rot and die out.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 00:05:34
May 28 2014 00:04 GMT
#180
On May 28 2014 08:17 LaNague wrote:
they have started to censored the steam tags for the game.
Now it will only showe such useful tags as "#fun" and "#Masterpeice" (lol)

Try to add "DRM" or "Uplay" for example.


I hate that people buy games from these companies over and over. They complain afterwards, but then on the next hyped game, they will pay fucking 70 euro once more instead of letting the companies rot and die out.


Complaining in this sense i agree is kind of funny, but the last 3 Ubi games that have come out (Far Cry 3, AC Black Flag, and now Watch Dogs) have been quite good IMO, so i wouldnt want UBI to die out necessarily. I think UPLAY should die just like fucking GFWL, but the 3 games ive mentioned were well worth the 60$, theyre all good games with many hours of gameplay and i think people should gladly keep buying them, and just stop falling for all the hype. Just my 2 cents heh.
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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 28 2014 03:53 GMT
#181
Clara Lille looks like Christy Mack
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DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 03:56:44
May 28 2014 03:55 GMT
#182
I watched a review where the 3rd person shooting was compared to Deux Ex: Human Revolution. Is this true aside from the fact they are both 3rd person shooters? From what I saw, it did not seem to be the case.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
May 28 2014 08:22 GMT
#183
On May 28 2014 12:55 DonKey_ wrote:
I watched a review where the 3rd person shooting was compared to Deux Ex: Human Revolution. Is this true aside from the fact they are both 3rd person shooters? From what I saw, it did not seem to be the case.


3rd person shooter ? Deus Ex HR is a FPS.
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Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
May 28 2014 13:28 GMT
#184
the shooting is exactly like in GTA V.. to be honest, the whole game is like GTA with a few more gimmicks.. imo the driving is better in GTA and the by foot play is better in watch dogs
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 28 2014 19:10 GMT
#185
On May 26 2014 21:02 pokerface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 20:30 Thalandros wrote:
SO many people talk and play the game before the release. This early shipping really messed around with it a bit. I'll be getting the game tomorrow and taking my time. I don't mind hitting Q a lot, personally. They shouldn't make it more complicated, it'll just mess with the formula. People are too obsessed with this game and looking at it as the perfect hacking game/simulator because it was kinda marketed that way, but it's an open world GTA-style game with a new mechanic in it that makes it fun. the stealth part of the game looks really fun as well to be honest, and I really just want a decent open world game like GTAIV/SR3. they were the last ones for me, and SR3 was too much of a ''funny'' game to be taken serious.

The only complaint I'm actually taking serious at the moment is the steering of the vehicles (and frame drops, but that's fixable) which is bad in a lot of games unfortunately. It really depends HOW terrible it is. Is it okay but just not GTA level? or is it absolute trash?

After you have played few hours with it you'll be here telling us how we were right,about this game being shitty.
I mean many ppl here mentioned a lot of stuff being super bad about the game.Imagine this:You are racing down the street with 200km/h and crashing in the wall frontally.Results?Not even a dent my friend.Thats how realistic this game is

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/158537-pc-version-watch-dogs-review-by-thalandros/ I just posted my review on LTT.

I disagree with you. I like the game a lot. Spent 12 hours yesterday playing it. Wasn't amazed by the graphics, but they were good and okay for my old but awesome 6950. The game is innovative enough for me to keep playing 'til finished atleast, especially Gang Hideouts are awesome. I like the little bits of humor in the same. The physics are disappointing at times, but often times I don't really mind. I like the crashing into other cars-physics more than any other game personally. Here's hoping they might optimize and fix it later. Overall, good game, liked it, will play for a while. Not GOTY as expected of course, it's Ubisoft, but still, good game!
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Kabuum
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany1 Post
May 28 2014 19:21 GMT
#186
On May 28 2014 17:22 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 12:55 DonKey_ wrote:
I watched a review where the 3rd person shooting was compared to Deux Ex: Human Revolution. Is this true aside from the fact they are both 3rd person shooters? From what I saw, it did not seem to be the case.


3rd person shooter ? Deus Ex HR is a FPS.


...DeusEx is a fucking Stealth RPG! I played through it TWO TIMES without fireing a single shot...
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
May 28 2014 19:25 GMT
#187
On May 29 2014 04:21 Kabuum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 17:22 FFW_Rude wrote:
On May 28 2014 12:55 DonKey_ wrote:
I watched a review where the 3rd person shooting was compared to Deux Ex: Human Revolution. Is this true aside from the fact they are both 3rd person shooters? From what I saw, it did not seem to be the case.


3rd person shooter ? Deus Ex HR is a FPS.


...DeusEx is a fucking Stealth RPG! I played through it TWO TIMES without fireing a single shot...


what a first post...

So how does the game hold up? I have been on the fence is the story worth it? Games looks just like GTA, which has probably been mentioned to death.
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 28 2014 19:49 GMT
#188
On May 29 2014 04:25 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 04:21 Kabuum wrote:
On May 28 2014 17:22 FFW_Rude wrote:
On May 28 2014 12:55 DonKey_ wrote:
I watched a review where the 3rd person shooting was compared to Deux Ex: Human Revolution. Is this true aside from the fact they are both 3rd person shooters? From what I saw, it did not seem to be the case.


3rd person shooter ? Deus Ex HR is a FPS.


...DeusEx is a fucking Stealth RPG! I played through it TWO TIMES without fireing a single shot...


what a first post...

So how does the game hold up? I have been on the fence is the story worth it? Games looks just like GTA, which has probably been mentioned to death.

lol he just got banned as a PBU. That post seems innocuous enough though.
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
May 28 2014 19:51 GMT
#189
So I've been playing Multiplayer all day today, doing Online Hacking and Tailing and I can honestly say that it's the best features this game has to offer. It's kind of difficult to find targets sometimes though, it's very inconsistent. Sometimes I find targets after 20 seconds of waiting and other times 10 minutes so I hope they can solve that issue.

Once you are in though it's very fun. Since it's so early I guess most people haven't gotten used to people invading them yet, because they panic when I invade them and hilarity ensues. Tailing is pretty fun too, but I haven't failed it even once and I haven't been tailed yet (I think) so I'm not sure what it looks like for the target. Online Hacking is definitely more fun right now because it's pretty difficult if you find a competent player. Luck is also a factor. One time I was invaded on the highway, needless to say it wasn't difficult to find him and the whole thing was over in under 30 seconds. Other times action takes place in crowded park with a couple of intersections which makes it's very difficult for the invaded to find the invader.

Best moment so far was when I hid in the targets car. When I arrived at the scene I saw him crashing into some sort of pillar and stepping out of his car. I proceeded to act natural driving past it. When he went in one direction to look for me I hopped out of mine and into his car hoping he wouldn't even bother checking it. He ran past the car many times but never bothered to look closer so it turned out well.

I bought the 59 euro version which is pretty damn expensive, but in my current financial situation I feel like I am getting my moneys worth.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 28 2014 21:10 GMT
#190
Been playing most of it so far. Hacking feels a bit flat, but it's really the driving that's the least enjoyable and the framerate issues. Not a bad game, just a bit eh
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 29 2014 07:09 GMT
#191
Framerate issues confirmed, and very noticeable, don't know if its because I have an ATI card (7850).

Textures are not good on medium, very noticeable in-game.

Gameplay is good so far, but like others have mentioned, driving is absolute shit in this game. I have played a lot of sandbox titles over the years dating back to GTA VC to 4, Saint's Row 1-3, Just Cause 1-2, and this is by far the shittiest driving controls and physics. GTA SA was the the hardest to master and holy shit this is worse than that. Foot play is smooth though, I enjoy the fluidity the player moves, doesn't surprise me given how Ubisoft did with Assassin's Creed. The UI was clearly designed for controller though so have fun using inventory with a mouse.

You can play through the game thus far without resorting to kills although there are times where a gun is very much preferred.

But overall I'd say this is closer to a 40 dollar game as of right now. Not worth the full retail. Like if this turns into a franchise, I can see Ubisoft improve on the design, there's a good foundation, but it's unpolished design. It reminds me of Assassin's Creed in my very limited time with the game.
Get it by your hands...
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 29 2014 07:30 GMT
#192
The game is an 'nvidia' title so it should be expected that amd struggles. Apparently they were denied access to source code and weren't allowed to make suggestions that would have improved amd performance/ weren't able to prepare optimised drivers ahead of time.

This is all stuff I read over on /r/pcmasterrace, so take it with a grain of salt.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 29 2014 07:36 GMT
#193
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 29 2014 08:33 GMT
#194
Game is a disappoint, basic physical destruction and physics are so glitchy. Game mechanics are clunky especially the shooting, a lot of the general things in the game feel "stiff". Driving in the game is terrible, sedans handle like trucks and Ferrari and other sports cars are clown cars.

I found out today if you kill people on the train, they start floating in space including their bodies protruding to the exterior as it travels through the route. I thought killing the train operator will disable the train but I guess that is too excessive to expect from the game. I feel this game is very much coded and built from the ground up for pure consoles.

I have to admit the hacking mechanics are fun with its total integration into the environment and viewing the city while riding the train is pretty amazing but beyond that everything else is terrible. Don't waste 60$ on this game and disappoint yourself, PC users do yourself a favor and wait for GTAV whenever Rockstar decides to release it.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
May 29 2014 09:09 GMT
#195
On May 29 2014 17:33 Disregard wrote:
Game is a disappoint, basic physical destruction and physics are so glitchy. Game mechanics are clunky especially the shooting, a lot of the general things in the game feel "stiff". Driving in the game is terrible, sedans handle like trucks and Ferrari and other sports cars are clown cars.

I found out today if you kill people on the train, they start floating in space including their bodies protruding to the exterior as it travels through the route. I thought killing the train operator will disable the train but I guess that is too excessive to expect from the game. I feel this game is very much coded and built from the ground up for pure consoles.

I have to admit the hacking mechanics are fun with its total integration into the environment and viewing the city while riding the train is pretty amazing but beyond that everything else is terrible. Don't waste 60$ on this game and disappoint yourself, PC users do yourself a favor and wait for GTAV whenever Rockstar decides to release it.

...will GTA V ever come to PC? I thought that was pretty much cancelled at this point. :3
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Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
May 29 2014 09:29 GMT
#196
it isnt as good as expected, but I'm still enjoying it a lot. As soon as i switched from mouse/keyboard to controller, the driving became a lot better. its very satisfying to bust police cars with blockers, trafic lights or sewer explosions during a case and the online modes are a lot of fun too, overall i dont regret the purchase and I'm not affected at all by any performance issues. running it on an i7 2700 with 16gig ram and a GTX 680. if you have a decent PC + controller and enjoy open world games, id still recommend it, even though it has some flaws
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21681 Posts
May 29 2014 09:33 GMT
#197
Guess the "It was made for PC and then ported to console" has been pretty much proven a lie at this point.

Its sad to see an exciting new idea fail because of dumb reasons over and over.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 29 2014 09:52 GMT
#198
Clara is so fucking ugly and off-putting. Like wtf?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 29 2014 09:57 GMT
#199
On May 29 2014 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9BEA4Hxs


This is the best fucking video rofl, good god I'm crying
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 10:08:43
May 29 2014 10:03 GMT
#200
I played the PC version, its definitely not built as a PC port. The textures on ultra are nothing to be hold of, GTA IV with third-party mods can do better. And GTA IV from 4 years ago had superior destruction and physics but then again Ubisoft will pale in comparison to Rockstar in these types of games.

E1230v3
16GB DDR3
760 GTX

Ultra + HBAO High + AA 4x + 1920x1080
But the game mostly forces 60fps due to the 60Hz cap

edit: Just watched the video, that should be a review of the game within itself. Ahhh, no wonder the controls feel stiff because there is no option to turn off mouse acceleration

If you want to manually turn off mouse acceleration, go to your configuration profile in the Documents folder. Its a noticeable difference when aiming with your mouse.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
May 29 2014 11:06 GMT
#201
well, mouse acceleration is a big console port sign.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 29 2014 12:07 GMT
#202
Framerate for driving just abysmal.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 29 2014 12:12 GMT
#203
On May 29 2014 21:07 Torte de Lini wrote:
Framerate for driving just abysmal.


YEP.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 13:09:35
May 29 2014 13:07 GMT
#204
well the whole when you use a controller it works better is also a huge sign

consoles killed games


so i am gettign really mixed feelings from this thread


Disapointment aside that it isnt the next jesus of games


Is it a good game? will you get 40+ hours of entertainment from it?
Eg since gta3 (the vaguley miami one) that francshise has felt incredibly consoley. not always end fo the world.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 29 2014 13:26 GMT
#205
If you get your 40 hours worth out of previous iterations of city driver games, you're not bored of them yet and you're not too sensitive about port issues, you'll get your money's worth out of this one as well.

That's about it.

For me personally, playing anything other than the main campaign/story felt old, repetitive and pointless after one or two instances. Might as well have been a linear story-driven game for all I care, because nothing else seems worth the effort they put into it.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 29 2014 13:35 GMT
#206
Using a controller, having quite a bit of fun, haven''t really noticed too many FPS drops(heard its a problem more specific to ATI).
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Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 14:28:12
May 29 2014 14:26 GMT
#207
On May 29 2014 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9BEA4Hxs

The guy who made this video is a retard. He has some valid points here and there like the effects on water when you shoot it. Something like that shouldnt be 2014. But man this must be the whiniest nitpicker I´ve seen in a long time. Worst thing is that 3000+ people jump on the hatetrain so easy without trying it themselves. Some people just dont want to have fun and have a good time. Some points are just stupid he made:

- Yes it has bugs and glitches but show me one game that doesnt have that nowadays. I think the only games that are bugfree are Nintendo games or a good amount of japanese games in general. If its not game breaking its not that bad. And its nothing that cant be patched.
- He refers to PS 2 when he thinks something looks bad (when it actually isnt that bad). Most ragdolls in games look kinda silly. The only games where it looked somewhat realistic was GTA 4 and 5 cause of Euphoria. PS 2 was pretty good for its time so I dont get why people always mention "Playstaion 2 graphics" when it clearly isnt.
- No Cheat Codes..... Really? What have Cheat Codes to do with "Next gen"? (Ignoring the fact that it isnt Next gen atleast for PC. TB made that point). This is one of the guys that plays Gta or any other sandbox game with cheats and then throws it into a corner cause its boring.

If you think this is a bad PC Port. DONT PLAY IT ON PC GODDAMNIT. If you think its not worth 60 € or your regional equivalent. Dont buy it on the first day. Especially for PC where prices for games get lowered really fast anyways. Games are way overpriced anyways these days and you should only pay so much for a game when you really are a fanboy and have waited long for a game and you really want it. Test it before you buy it. Ask a friend if hes got the game and give it a go(Cause demos are really rare these days).

And to the guy some posts above saying "consoles kill games". No. Just No. Thats not the problem. The problem are developers that think its a good idea to port every game for every system. It mostly started when Microsoft wanted some of the pie too and decided to throw a console on the market. Before it was way better. Only buy exclusives for PC and exclusives for Console. I do that too and I have no problems. Some games are better on Console (racing games and fighting games) and some are better on PC (Fps or mostly shooters in general and Strategy games). I have both PC and Playstation and Im totally fine with both of them. As long as you play the right games on the right systems.
Extreme Force
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
May 29 2014 14:34 GMT
#208
On come on, that's a hilarious video.
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 15:23:04
May 29 2014 14:48 GMT
#209
^ I have to admit the video is funny. But some points he mades are just...aaaarrrrggghhh! Like the scene where he says its easier to not hack and just melees every security. Well if thats the way he plays thats his problem not ours.
Extreme Force
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
May 29 2014 15:44 GMT
#210
The overall point is that you can't have games that emphasize visual fidelity without also modeling human behavior and physical reality to the corresponding degree of accuracy. The combination of 2014 visuals and 10 year old physics and AI behavior models produces comical situations that look ridiculous and completely break the immersion and atmosphere that is supposed to carry these types of games.
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
May 29 2014 16:40 GMT
#211
On May 29 2014 23:26 Tresher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9BEA4Hxs

And to the guy some posts above saying "consoles kill games". No. Just No. Thats not the problem. The problem are developers that think its a good idea to port every game for every system. It mostly started when Microsoft wanted some of the pie too and decided to throw a console on the market. Before it was way better.


agreed, that was the moment when consoles really started to get insanley popular again and also the moment that games turned into genericoms AAA title.

Anyway id disagree with what you said - its more specific ... the problem is that they don't rework the ui and so games that would be best played with a device other than a joypad get ruined ... because of the console consideration ... thus consoles are killing games. (Unless you want all games to require a joypad - ie be essentially 2d).

If consoles came with a flat multi buttoned panel and a mouse then all would be great but the use case for consoles is whilst sitting on a sofa and being able to throw the controller to your mates, not sat in an environment that is essentially one you can work in.


Anyway this got way OT, im probably not buying the game until its on discount.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 29 2014 18:58 GMT
#212
Pretty sure this game has a memory leak or something.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 19:01:19
May 29 2014 19:00 GMT
#213
On May 29 2014 23:48 Tresher wrote:
^ I have to admit the video is funny. But some points he mades are just...aaaarrrrggghhh! Like the scene where he says its easier to not hack and just melees every security. Well if thats the way he plays thats his problem not ours.


Yeah, but it shows just how brain-dead the whole system is. A lot of games fail in this regard where they show the various ways to do something, but in the end; it's just easier to melee everyone and a game shouldn't be like that. It should force the user to get creative to achieve an objective for the challenge, not just for variety.

On May 29 2014 23:26 Tresher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9BEA4Hxs

The guy who made this video is a retard. He has some valid points here and there like the effects on water when you shoot it. Something like that shouldnt be 2014. But man this must be the whiniest nitpicker I´ve seen in a long time. Worst thing is that 3000+ people jump on the hatetrain so easy without trying it themselves. Some people just dont want to have fun and have a good time. Some points are just stupid he made:

- Yes it has bugs and glitches but show me one game that doesnt have that nowadays. I think the only games that are bugfree are Nintendo games or a good amount of japanese games in general. If its not game breaking its not that bad. And its nothing that cant be patched.
- He refers to PS 2 when he thinks something looks bad (when it actually isnt that bad). Most ragdolls in games look kinda silly. The only games where it looked somewhat realistic was GTA 4 and 5 cause of Euphoria. PS 2 was pretty good for its time so I dont get why people always mention "Playstaion 2 graphics" when it clearly isnt.
- No Cheat Codes..... Really? What have Cheat Codes to do with "Next gen"? (Ignoring the fact that it isnt Next gen atleast for PC. TB made that point). This is one of the guys that plays Gta or any other sandbox game with cheats and then throws it into a corner cause its boring.

If you think this is a bad PC Port. DONT PLAY IT ON PC GODDAMNIT. If you think its not worth 60 € or your regional equivalent. Dont buy it on the first day. Especially for PC where prices for games get lowered really fast anyways. Games are way overpriced anyways these days and you should only pay so much for a game when you really are a fanboy and have waited long for a game and you really want it. Test it before you buy it. Ask a friend if hes got the game and give it a go(Cause demos are really rare these days).

And to the guy some posts above saying "consoles kill games". No. Just No. Thats not the problem. The problem are developers that think its a good idea to port every game for every system. It mostly started when Microsoft wanted some of the pie too and decided to throw a console on the market. Before it was way better. Only buy exclusives for PC and exclusives for Console. I do that too and I have no problems. Some games are better on Console (racing games and fighting games) and some are better on PC (Fps or mostly shooters in general and Strategy games). I have both PC and Playstation and Im totally fine with both of them. As long as you play the right games on the right systems.


I mean your whole argument is so apologist it's really sickening.

Watch Dogs has some really good moments, but your justifications for them cutting corners is for us to restrict platforms that are the most preferred...
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
May 29 2014 19:45 GMT
#214
On May 29 2014 22:26 Talin wrote:
For me personally, playing anything other than the main campaign/story felt old, repetitive and pointless after one or two instances. Might as well have been a linear story-driven game for all I care, because nothing else seems worth the effort they put into it.

That's how I feel about most open world game nowadays.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 20:18:09
May 29 2014 20:10 GMT
#215
On May 29 2014 23:26 Tresher wrote:
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On May 29 2014 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9BEA4Hxs

The guy who made this video is a retard. He has some valid points here and there like the effects on water when you shoot it. Something like that shouldnt be 2014. But man this must be the whiniest nitpicker I´ve seen in a long time. Worst thing is that 3000+ people jump on the hatetrain so easy without trying it themselves. Some people just dont want to have fun and have a good time. Some points are just stupid he made:

- Yes it has bugs and glitches but show me one game that doesnt have that nowadays. I think the only games that are bugfree are Nintendo games or a good amount of japanese games in general. If its not game breaking its not that bad. And its nothing that cant be patched.
- He refers to PS 2 when he thinks something looks bad (when it actually isnt that bad). Most ragdolls in games look kinda silly. The only games where it looked somewhat realistic was GTA 4 and 5 cause of Euphoria. PS 2 was pretty good for its time so I dont get why people always mention "Playstaion 2 graphics" when it clearly isnt.
- No Cheat Codes..... Really? What have Cheat Codes to do with "Next gen"? (Ignoring the fact that it isnt Next gen atleast for PC. TB made that point). This is one of the guys that plays Gta or any other sandbox game with cheats and then throws it into a corner cause its boring.

If you think this is a bad PC Port. DONT PLAY IT ON PC GODDAMNIT. If you think its not worth 60 € or your regional equivalent. Dont buy it on the first day. Especially for PC where prices for games get lowered really fast anyways. Games are way overpriced anyways these days and you should only pay so much for a game when you really are a fanboy and have waited long for a game and you really want it. Test it before you buy it. Ask a friend if hes got the game and give it a go(Cause demos are really rare these days).

And to the guy some posts above saying "consoles kill games". No. Just No. Thats not the problem. The problem are developers that think its a good idea to port every game for every system. It mostly started when Microsoft wanted some of the pie too and decided to throw a console on the market. Before it was way better. Only buy exclusives for PC and exclusives for Console. I do that too and I have no problems. Some games are better on Console (racing games and fighting games) and some are better on PC (Fps or mostly shooters in general and Strategy games). I have both PC and Playstation and Im totally fine with both of them. As long as you play the right games on the right systems.

We need to stop being ok with game companies selling unfinished, buggy messes as "complete games".

Why is it that when a game needs fixed and gets a patch, the devs are praised for listening to fans, or caring about their product; while pretty much any other product would be ridiculed for even one big flaw? Look at Vista and its problems with peripherals shortly after launch. Look at the red ring of death on the 360. Look at every product recall ever.

The videogame software industry is the ONLY one where releasing broken crap and only fixing it after thousands of complaints is acceptable.

And its not just bugs either, its design flaws. The hacking is shallow and pointless 95% of the time. The game is supposed to be about hacking, and you don't even have to do it! There are train tracks that take sharp, 90 degree turns instantly. Trains stop on a dime to avoid hitting you, and the instant you move out of the way they start right back up at full speed instantly. For an open world game, there's an awful lot of invisible walls. For a game in 2014, there's an awful lot of flat textures and pre-rendered reflections. No dynamic shadows either.
Who called in the fleet?
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
May 29 2014 20:55 GMT
#216
@ Torte de Lini and Millitron
Just so you guys know and that there are no misunderstoodings. I didnt wanted to apologize for the devs. I didnt even say they were cutting corners. And Im totally not okay with releasing buggy messes. But thats how it is nowadays. Like I said in my long rant: name me one modern game that is not buggy. The game has its moments but it also has its flaws that can ruin the atmosphere yes. There are tons of other videos from games like this and they are meant to be funny. But this video just screamed "Dont make your own opinion about the game and dont even think about buying it" at me. The guy acted like he was expecting an ultra-realistic simulator. I think we are still very far away from a game like this. I see it more as something like AC than an realistic Open world game. An Action-adventure with a lot of freedom. But definetly not some milestone in gaming (I played it at a friends house on PS 4).

Like I said: Make your own opinion. And if you dont like something, dont buy it or try the demo or try to play it with one of your friends that owns the game. Nobody forces you to buy/play it on the first day. Wait for the price to get lowered UNLESS you really want it. If you enjoy it then its cool.

Oh and sorry if anyone felt offended from my previous post. That was definetly not my intention
Extreme Force
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21681 Posts
May 29 2014 21:03 GMT
#217
Just because most developers release shit doesn't mean we should accept it and not flame them for it.

Tobad tens of thousands of people don't bother to inform themselves before a purchase so the publishers feel there going about things the right way.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
May 29 2014 21:14 GMT
#218
^ Thats exactly what I said in my post above: We shouldnt accept everything but sometimes its the peoples fault cause they dont inform themselves. But we also shouldnt judge something cause somebody makes a video about it and puts it in a bad light.
Extreme Force
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
May 29 2014 21:21 GMT
#219
This thread title seems very appropriate in juxtaposition with the actual product. The OP was so intelligent, he knew this would make a cheeky jest from far in the past.

On the topic of barbs at the game and/or devs/publishers: in most cases, I'd say people are just harsh and have no sympathy for the creative process. However, this is one of the most hyped experiences in recent years, and the dogshit job they did on the port alone tells me that somewhere along the line a guy said "yeah this is good, we can ship and sell multiple millions of this". Fuck that. Let the hate flow.

Just so it's clear, I'm one of those crazy people that don't preorder every game that crops up. I wait until things come out and watch some gameplay. I don't own nor will I ever own this game.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 21:24:34
May 29 2014 21:21 GMT
#220
On May 30 2014 05:55 Tresher wrote:
@ Torte de Lini and Millitron
Just so you guys know and that there are no misunderstoodings. I didnt wanted to apologize for the devs. I didnt even say they were cutting corners. And Im totally not okay with releasing buggy messes. But thats how it is nowadays. Like I said in my long rant: name me one modern game that is not buggy. The game has its moments but it also has its flaws that can ruin the atmosphere yes. There are tons of other videos from games like this and they are meant to be funny. But this video just screamed "Dont make your own opinion about the game and dont even think about buying it" at me. The guy acted like he was expecting an ultra-realistic simulator. I think we are still very far away from a game like this. I see it more as something like AC than an realistic Open world game. An Action-adventure with a lot of freedom. But definetly not some milestone in gaming (I played it at a friends house on PS 4).

Like I said: Make your own opinion. And if you dont like something, dont buy it or try the demo or try to play it with one of your friends that owns the game. Nobody forces you to buy/play it on the first day. Wait for the price to get lowered UNLESS you really want it. If you enjoy it then its cool.

Oh and sorry if anyone felt offended from my previous post. That was definetly not my intention

The thing is though, some big-name blockbuster game should have more than enough resources to blow us away.

I mean, look at what indie devs or even small traditional companies can make. Look at DCS World. Look at Men of War: Assault Squad 2. Look at Space Engineers.

There are even other modern, big name games that aren't buggy messes. GTAV is basically a better version of this. The only thing watch dogs has that GTA doesn't is hacking, which as I said is pretty much just tacked on.

And yeah, no hard feelings, I'm not blaming you or anything. Just that the big companies need to be held to better standards if we're ever to have good videogames again.

On May 30 2014 06:21 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
This thread title seems very appropriate in juxtaposition with the actual product. The OP was so intelligent, he knew this would make a cheeky jest from far in the past.

On the topic of barbs at the game and/or devs/publishers: in most cases, I'd say people are just harsh and have no sympathy for the creative process. However, this is one of the most hyped experiences in recent years, and the dogshit job they did on the port alone tells me that somewhere along the line a guy said "yeah this is good, we can ship and sell multiple millions of this". Fuck that. Let the hate flow.

Just so it's clear, I'm one of those crazy people that don't preorder every game that crops up. I wait until things come out and watch some gameplay. I don't own nor will I ever own this game.

I predicted 20 seconds into that first E3 trailer that it would be garbage. I just knew all along it would be a poor GTA clone with tacked on hacking.
Who called in the fleet?
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 21:46:32
May 29 2014 21:44 GMT
#221
On May 30 2014 06:21 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 05:55 Tresher wrote:
@ Torte de Lini and Millitron
Just so you guys know and that there are no misunderstoodings. I didnt wanted to apologize for the devs. I didnt even say they were cutting corners. And Im totally not okay with releasing buggy messes. But thats how it is nowadays. Like I said in my long rant: name me one modern game that is not buggy. The game has its moments but it also has its flaws that can ruin the atmosphere yes. There are tons of other videos from games like this and they are meant to be funny. But this video just screamed "Dont make your own opinion about the game and dont even think about buying it" at me. The guy acted like he was expecting an ultra-realistic simulator. I think we are still very far away from a game like this. I see it more as something like AC than an realistic Open world game. An Action-adventure with a lot of freedom. But definetly not some milestone in gaming (I played it at a friends house on PS 4).

Like I said: Make your own opinion. And if you dont like something, dont buy it or try the demo or try to play it with one of your friends that owns the game. Nobody forces you to buy/play it on the first day. Wait for the price to get lowered UNLESS you really want it. If you enjoy it then its cool.

Oh and sorry if anyone felt offended from my previous post. That was definetly not my intention

The thing is though, some big-name blockbuster game should have more than enough resources to blow us away.

I mean, look at what indie devs or even small traditional companies can make. Look at DCS World. Look at Men of War: Assault Squad 2. Look at Space Engineers.

There are even other modern, big name games that aren't buggy messes. GTAV is basically a better version of this. The only thing watch dogs has that GTA doesn't is hacking, which as I said is pretty much just tacked on.

And yeah, no hard feelings, I'm not blaming you or anything. Just that the big companies need to be held to better standards if we're ever to have good videogames again.

Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 06:21 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
This thread title seems very appropriate in juxtaposition with the actual product. The OP was so intelligent, he knew this would make a cheeky jest from far in the past.

On the topic of barbs at the game and/or devs/publishers: in most cases, I'd say people are just harsh and have no sympathy for the creative process. However, this is one of the most hyped experiences in recent years, and the dogshit job they did on the port alone tells me that somewhere along the line a guy said "yeah this is good, we can ship and sell multiple millions of this". Fuck that. Let the hate flow.

Just so it's clear, I'm one of those crazy people that don't preorder every game that crops up. I wait until things come out and watch some gameplay. I don't own nor will I ever own this game.

I predicted 20 seconds into that first E3 trailer that it would be garbage. I just knew all along it would be a poor GTA clone with tacked on hacking.


Indie devs nowadays tend to be much better then triple A companies.

There is a mod for HL2 called Underhell that has a developed story with some bits and pieces for you to find. It has great and fun gameplay. The singleplayer is just amazing because its about 20 hours long depending on how you play and the most important thing is that its FREE. Funny thing is that there is 3 more chapters to go and only the Prologue-Chapter 1 is out and its already at least 20 hours long.

The guy and his team behind the mod made a game that is better then majority of triple A.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 29 2014 21:49 GMT
#222
On May 30 2014 06:44 Disengaged wrote:
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On May 30 2014 06:21 Millitron wrote:
On May 30 2014 05:55 Tresher wrote:
@ Torte de Lini and Millitron
Just so you guys know and that there are no misunderstoodings. I didnt wanted to apologize for the devs. I didnt even say they were cutting corners. And Im totally not okay with releasing buggy messes. But thats how it is nowadays. Like I said in my long rant: name me one modern game that is not buggy. The game has its moments but it also has its flaws that can ruin the atmosphere yes. There are tons of other videos from games like this and they are meant to be funny. But this video just screamed "Dont make your own opinion about the game and dont even think about buying it" at me. The guy acted like he was expecting an ultra-realistic simulator. I think we are still very far away from a game like this. I see it more as something like AC than an realistic Open world game. An Action-adventure with a lot of freedom. But definetly not some milestone in gaming (I played it at a friends house on PS 4).

Like I said: Make your own opinion. And if you dont like something, dont buy it or try the demo or try to play it with one of your friends that owns the game. Nobody forces you to buy/play it on the first day. Wait for the price to get lowered UNLESS you really want it. If you enjoy it then its cool.

Oh and sorry if anyone felt offended from my previous post. That was definetly not my intention

The thing is though, some big-name blockbuster game should have more than enough resources to blow us away.

I mean, look at what indie devs or even small traditional companies can make. Look at DCS World. Look at Men of War: Assault Squad 2. Look at Space Engineers.

There are even other modern, big name games that aren't buggy messes. GTAV is basically a better version of this. The only thing watch dogs has that GTA doesn't is hacking, which as I said is pretty much just tacked on.

And yeah, no hard feelings, I'm not blaming you or anything. Just that the big companies need to be held to better standards if we're ever to have good videogames again.

On May 30 2014 06:21 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
This thread title seems very appropriate in juxtaposition with the actual product. The OP was so intelligent, he knew this would make a cheeky jest from far in the past.

On the topic of barbs at the game and/or devs/publishers: in most cases, I'd say people are just harsh and have no sympathy for the creative process. However, this is one of the most hyped experiences in recent years, and the dogshit job they did on the port alone tells me that somewhere along the line a guy said "yeah this is good, we can ship and sell multiple millions of this". Fuck that. Let the hate flow.

Just so it's clear, I'm one of those crazy people that don't preorder every game that crops up. I wait until things come out and watch some gameplay. I don't own nor will I ever own this game.

I predicted 20 seconds into that first E3 trailer that it would be garbage. I just knew all along it would be a poor GTA clone with tacked on hacking.


Indie devs nowadays tend to be much better then triple A companies.

There is a mod for HL2 called Underhell that has a developed story with some bits and pieces for you to find. It has great and fun gameplay. The singleplayer is just amazing because its about 20 hours long depending on how you play and the most important thing is that its FREE. Funny thing is that there is 3 more chapters to go and only the Prologue-Chapter 1 is out and its already at least 20 hours long.

The guy and his team behind the mod made a game that is better then majority of triple A.


That's delusional. The scope and amount of time most indie developers take to make their shit is not on par with AAA titles; that's just pandering to a contrarian view.

I'm not saying Indie devs dont make amazing, new and fun games, but they aren't as large of scope as AAA titles.
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Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
May 29 2014 21:56 GMT
#223
On May 30 2014 06:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 06:44 Disengaged wrote:
On May 30 2014 06:21 Millitron wrote:
On May 30 2014 05:55 Tresher wrote:
@ Torte de Lini and Millitron
Just so you guys know and that there are no misunderstoodings. I didnt wanted to apologize for the devs. I didnt even say they were cutting corners. And Im totally not okay with releasing buggy messes. But thats how it is nowadays. Like I said in my long rant: name me one modern game that is not buggy. The game has its moments but it also has its flaws that can ruin the atmosphere yes. There are tons of other videos from games like this and they are meant to be funny. But this video just screamed "Dont make your own opinion about the game and dont even think about buying it" at me. The guy acted like he was expecting an ultra-realistic simulator. I think we are still very far away from a game like this. I see it more as something like AC than an realistic Open world game. An Action-adventure with a lot of freedom. But definetly not some milestone in gaming (I played it at a friends house on PS 4).

Like I said: Make your own opinion. And if you dont like something, dont buy it or try the demo or try to play it with one of your friends that owns the game. Nobody forces you to buy/play it on the first day. Wait for the price to get lowered UNLESS you really want it. If you enjoy it then its cool.

Oh and sorry if anyone felt offended from my previous post. That was definetly not my intention

The thing is though, some big-name blockbuster game should have more than enough resources to blow us away.

I mean, look at what indie devs or even small traditional companies can make. Look at DCS World. Look at Men of War: Assault Squad 2. Look at Space Engineers.

There are even other modern, big name games that aren't buggy messes. GTAV is basically a better version of this. The only thing watch dogs has that GTA doesn't is hacking, which as I said is pretty much just tacked on.

And yeah, no hard feelings, I'm not blaming you or anything. Just that the big companies need to be held to better standards if we're ever to have good videogames again.

On May 30 2014 06:21 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
This thread title seems very appropriate in juxtaposition with the actual product. The OP was so intelligent, he knew this would make a cheeky jest from far in the past.

On the topic of barbs at the game and/or devs/publishers: in most cases, I'd say people are just harsh and have no sympathy for the creative process. However, this is one of the most hyped experiences in recent years, and the dogshit job they did on the port alone tells me that somewhere along the line a guy said "yeah this is good, we can ship and sell multiple millions of this". Fuck that. Let the hate flow.

Just so it's clear, I'm one of those crazy people that don't preorder every game that crops up. I wait until things come out and watch some gameplay. I don't own nor will I ever own this game.

I predicted 20 seconds into that first E3 trailer that it would be garbage. I just knew all along it would be a poor GTA clone with tacked on hacking.


Indie devs nowadays tend to be much better then triple A companies.

There is a mod for HL2 called Underhell that has a developed story with some bits and pieces for you to find. It has great and fun gameplay. The singleplayer is just amazing because its about 20 hours long depending on how you play and the most important thing is that its FREE. Funny thing is that there is 3 more chapters to go and only the Prologue-Chapter 1 is out and its already at least 20 hours long.

The guy and his team behind the mod made a game that is better then majority of triple A.


That's delusional. The scope and amount of time most indie developers take to make their shit is not on par with AAA titles; that's just pandering to a contrarian view.

I'm not saying Indie devs dont make amazing, new and fun games, but they aren't as large of scope as AAA titles.

Mount and Blade may as well be indie compared to something by Ubisoft, and thats pretty big.

How about Kerbal Space Program? Or Dwarf Fortress? Or Aurora 4x?

Really, all AAA games do better than indie games is graphics and cinematics. And I think thats because of simply how much money goes into them. To get a return-on-investment, they need to aim for the biggest demographics. And the biggest demographics want shallow, flashy crap like CoD. Not that WD is like CoD. WD is a different kind of shallow, flashy crap.
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 22:10:28
May 29 2014 22:05 GMT
#224
On May 30 2014 06:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 06:44 Disengaged wrote:
On May 30 2014 06:21 Millitron wrote:
On May 30 2014 05:55 Tresher wrote:
@ Torte de Lini and Millitron
Just so you guys know and that there are no misunderstoodings. I didnt wanted to apologize for the devs. I didnt even say they were cutting corners. And Im totally not okay with releasing buggy messes. But thats how it is nowadays. Like I said in my long rant: name me one modern game that is not buggy. The game has its moments but it also has its flaws that can ruin the atmosphere yes. There are tons of other videos from games like this and they are meant to be funny. But this video just screamed "Dont make your own opinion about the game and dont even think about buying it" at me. The guy acted like he was expecting an ultra-realistic simulator. I think we are still very far away from a game like this. I see it more as something like AC than an realistic Open world game. An Action-adventure with a lot of freedom. But definetly not some milestone in gaming (I played it at a friends house on PS 4).

Like I said: Make your own opinion. And if you dont like something, dont buy it or try the demo or try to play it with one of your friends that owns the game. Nobody forces you to buy/play it on the first day. Wait for the price to get lowered UNLESS you really want it. If you enjoy it then its cool.

Oh and sorry if anyone felt offended from my previous post. That was definetly not my intention

The thing is though, some big-name blockbuster game should have more than enough resources to blow us away.

I mean, look at what indie devs or even small traditional companies can make. Look at DCS World. Look at Men of War: Assault Squad 2. Look at Space Engineers.

There are even other modern, big name games that aren't buggy messes. GTAV is basically a better version of this. The only thing watch dogs has that GTA doesn't is hacking, which as I said is pretty much just tacked on.

And yeah, no hard feelings, I'm not blaming you or anything. Just that the big companies need to be held to better standards if we're ever to have good videogames again.

On May 30 2014 06:21 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
This thread title seems very appropriate in juxtaposition with the actual product. The OP was so intelligent, he knew this would make a cheeky jest from far in the past.

On the topic of barbs at the game and/or devs/publishers: in most cases, I'd say people are just harsh and have no sympathy for the creative process. However, this is one of the most hyped experiences in recent years, and the dogshit job they did on the port alone tells me that somewhere along the line a guy said "yeah this is good, we can ship and sell multiple millions of this". Fuck that. Let the hate flow.

Just so it's clear, I'm one of those crazy people that don't preorder every game that crops up. I wait until things come out and watch some gameplay. I don't own nor will I ever own this game.

I predicted 20 seconds into that first E3 trailer that it would be garbage. I just knew all along it would be a poor GTA clone with tacked on hacking.


Indie devs nowadays tend to be much better then triple A companies.

There is a mod for HL2 called Underhell that has a developed story with some bits and pieces for you to find. It has great and fun gameplay. The singleplayer is just amazing because its about 20 hours long depending on how you play and the most important thing is that its FREE. Funny thing is that there is 3 more chapters to go and only the Prologue-Chapter 1 is out and its already at least 20 hours long.

The guy and his team behind the mod made a game that is better then majority of triple A.


That's delusional. The scope and amount of time most indie developers take to make their shit is not on par with AAA titles; that's just pandering to a contrarian view.

I'm not saying Indie devs dont make amazing, new and fun games, but they aren't as large of scope as AAA titles.


I don't think its delusional at all.

Sure, some Indie devs don't take as long as triple A devs but some do. Again, I point to the devs of the mod Underhell. The Prologue was released in 2011(took pretty long for it to be released but don't have exact date, sry) and the time it took for them to release Chapter 1 was 2 years and there hard work shows all throughout Chapter 1. They basically wanted it to be perfect and as polished as possible before they even considered releasing it plus the amount of things they wanted their mod to have and actually implemented. With 3 more chapters coming which the guy who is behind everything from the ideas,story, gameplay mechanics, has said that the other chapters will be on par in terms of quality and length as Chapter 1. If that truly is the case then we are talking years before all chapters are released. Again, I point out they are doing all of it free because they have a vision and they want to see it through and they are doing a damn good job.

While there aren't many Indie devs who make as large of scope as triple A devs, they do exist.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 30 2014 00:06 GMT
#225
ive almost been able to play once or twice when uplay didnt fuck up, seemed like a decent game so far
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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
May 30 2014 07:43 GMT
#226
You could start uplay in offline mode. You won't be able to use the multiplayer features obviously, but you'll be able to play.
Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
May 30 2014 08:07 GMT
#227
Started playing yesterday, noticed absolutly no slow downs on my computer.

I use the "Auto detect" settings, which is pretty much everything at max and it looks gorgeous.
StarCraft II for ever.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
May 30 2014 09:24 GMT
#228
That 'blooper' video is hilarious, I was cracking up at 7:15, the music just fit so well too
: o )
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 30 2014 10:16 GMT
#229
I played some more. I can say I have fun, but it still feels a bit off.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 30 2014 10:43 GMT
#230
Should I play with a controller or ms+kb?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 30 2014 11:00 GMT
#231
Controller has a better feel to it imo.
WriterXiao8~~
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
May 30 2014 12:14 GMT
#232
On May 30 2014 19:43 Steveling wrote:
Should I play with a controller or ms+kb?

You get used to MS/KB very easily, at least I do.
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Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
May 30 2014 12:49 GMT
#233
On May 30 2014 19:43 Steveling wrote:
Should I play with a controller or ms+kb?


Tried both. Controller is better for driving but I hate it for wandering around.

Nothing beats kb+ms for FPS and TPS for me.
StarCraft II for ever.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 30 2014 13:52 GMT
#234
am I the only one who still has extreme problems getting uplay to work?
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
May 30 2014 14:09 GMT
#235
On May 30 2014 19:16 Torte de Lini wrote:
I played some more. I can say I have fun, but it still feels a bit off.


i think its because the graphics are 2014, but the physics, AI, world interaction are almost GTA3 level.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 30 2014 14:10 GMT
#236
On May 30 2014 23:09 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 19:16 Torte de Lini wrote:
I played some more. I can say I have fun, but it still feels a bit off.


i think its because the graphics are 2014, but the physics, AI, world interaction are almost GTA3 level.


Yeah, pretty much. Graphics are actually pretty nice, city is amazing and fun; physics, AI are sub-par. World Interaction is pretty much dead-on, maybe hit and miss on some level.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 30 2014 14:45 GMT
#237
So Ubisoft or ATI did something, no more frame drops/spikes as of last night. The driving is still atrocious but I am getting use to it so not as much as sidewalk clearing vehicle kills. Story is interesting. The city choice is nice now that I have had more time to explore the world, Chicago is beautiful in this game.
Get it by your hands...
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
May 30 2014 15:41 GMT
#238
On May 30 2014 21:49 Growiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2014 19:43 Steveling wrote:
Should I play with a controller or ms+kb?


Tried both. Controller is better for driving but I hate it for wandering around.

Nothing beats kb+ms for FPS and TPS for me.

This is the one thing that I really hate about this game. I'm fine with Dark Souls because it says "kb+mouse sucks, use a controller". I'm fine with Assassins Creed or Batman because they say "either works, whatever floats your boat".

For Watch Dogs literally half the game feels better with a controller, the other half with kb+mouse. TILT.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
May 30 2014 15:55 GMT
#239
that has always been my problem with gta and just cause, too.

Its the fact that i just cant aim for shit with a controller, but driving without the analoge stick is equally useless.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 31 2014 00:48 GMT
#240
You always have aim assist with gamepads =D
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 31 2014 10:41 GMT
#241
Yeah, I just turned on game assist with the gamepad. To be honest, the gunplay was never noteworthy in these kinds of games.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 31 2014 16:36 GMT
#242
Silly questionn, but how do I get to inside people's houses and their conversations/mannerisms?
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Atticus.axl
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
May 31 2014 16:56 GMT
#243
On June 01 2014 01:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
Silly question, but how do I get to inside people's houses and their conversations/mannerisms?


There are ctOS towers (red) on your map that once accessed give you some eyeball markers on your map.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 31 2014 18:48 GMT
#244
On May 29 2014 23:26 Tresher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2014 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9BEA4Hxs

The guy who made this video is a retard. He has some valid points here and there like the effects on water when you shoot it. Something like that shouldnt be 2014. But man this must be the whiniest nitpicker I´ve seen in a long time. Worst thing is that 3000+ people jump on the hatetrain so easy without trying it themselves. Some people just dont want to have fun and have a good time. Some points are just stupid he made:

- Yes it has bugs and glitches but show me one game that doesnt have that nowadays. I think the only games that are bugfree are Nintendo games or a good amount of japanese games in general. If its not game breaking its not that bad. And its nothing that cant be patched.
- He refers to PS 2 when he thinks something looks bad (when it actually isnt that bad). Most ragdolls in games look kinda silly. The only games where it looked somewhat realistic was GTA 4 and 5 cause of Euphoria. PS 2 was pretty good for its time so I dont get why people always mention "Playstaion 2 graphics" when it clearly isnt.
- No Cheat Codes..... Really? What have Cheat Codes to do with "Next gen"? (Ignoring the fact that it isnt Next gen atleast for PC. TB made that point). This is one of the guys that plays Gta or any other sandbox game with cheats and then throws it into a corner cause its boring.

If you think this is a bad PC Port. DONT PLAY IT ON PC GODDAMNIT. If you think its not worth 60 € or your regional equivalent. Dont buy it on the first day. Especially for PC where prices for games get lowered really fast anyways. Games are way overpriced anyways these days and you should only pay so much for a game when you really are a fanboy and have waited long for a game and you really want it. Test it before you buy it. Ask a friend if hes got the game and give it a go(Cause demos are really rare these days).

And to the guy some posts above saying "consoles kill games". No. Just No. Thats not the problem. The problem are developers that think its a good idea to port every game for every system. It mostly started when Microsoft wanted some of the pie too and decided to throw a console on the market. Before it was way better. Only buy exclusives for PC and exclusives for Console. I do that too and I have no problems. Some games are better on Console (racing games and fighting games) and some are better on PC (Fps or mostly shooters in general and Strategy games). I have both PC and Playstation and Im totally fine with both of them. As long as you play the right games on the right systems.


Some of that shit is absolutely awful lol.
Useless wet fish.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 31 2014 23:01 GMT
#245
What can you buy in this game? I have about 78k just from fucking around and I never figured out what to buy except guns (but I like the silencer pistol...)
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Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
May 31 2014 23:42 GMT
#246
On June 01 2014 08:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
What can you buy in this game? I have about 78k just from fucking around and I never figured out what to buy except guns (but I like the silencer pistol...)

guns and the parts to build equipment (IED etc.) are the only usefull moneysinks I have found. Yes you can "buy" cars through the app, but considering how fast they get "lost" during missions, I've almost never used that.

Short review, in general the game is fun and runs better than I expected (PS3 version), the loadtimes are very long, but since I had my doubts if it would even run properly that is no problem. The physics are a little disappointing, but it is good enough to have fun.

In general the engine seems a bit behind the GTA5 engine, but comparing it to GTA3 is frankly insulting.

The hacking itself and "interaction" with the city is fun and makes car chases less tedious than they were in GTA, but I dearly wish I could shoot out of my car.

Gunplay seems fairly standard console level, imho better than GTA 5. Fighting itself during the scripted campaign missions is the right mix of hacking stuff, straight up shooting or sneaking depending on your preferences.

The story (spoiler free) is a little disappointing, I expected a bit more of Vigilante fighting against "the corporation" from the trailers, instead it was a decent tale about one man and his ghosts, but many things about bloom and ctos in general were not resolved at all (heck they were only hinted at in the game itself).

Multiplayer seems fun on the console, and the integration of invasions (had 5 during my playthrough) is very smooth. The only thing I really dislike is how little you can actually do during matchmaking (no shopping is my major gripe). Basically i waste my time during matchmaking hacking random people and finding landmarks (btw, whoever coded the "landmark loading script" on the PS3 deserves to be fired. that datapacket should not be above 5kb in size, so why exactly does it take 25 seconds to load each landmark?).

All in all it was a great game, but it is not the milestone we have been hoping for (basically the same feeling i had about AC 3 and 4).
Connor987
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 17:16:25
June 01 2014 16:48 GMT
#247
Hi guys just a heads up that Watch Dogs is £10 cheaper on g2a.com as everyone knows is a good legit site with a big saving on this game

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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-01 20:59:25
June 01 2014 20:58 GMT
#248
Shit man, Clara's voice is so off-putting. It's Quebecois, but her pronunciation of Quebec profanities is so fucking off.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086396/?ref_=tt_cl_t4

Voice actress is Trois Rivieres rofl
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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
June 02 2014 04:07 GMT
#249
On June 02 2014 05:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
Shit man, Clara's voice is so off-putting. It's Quebecois, but her pronunciation of Quebec profanities is so fucking off.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086396/?ref_=tt_cl_t4

Voice actress is Trois Rivieres rofl


Yeah the way she says "Calisse" is awful, its pronounced "câlice", for a french studio, i don't know how you fuck that up.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 02 2014 07:55 GMT
#250
On June 02 2014 13:07 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2014 05:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
Shit man, Clara's voice is so off-putting. It's Quebecois, but her pronunciation of Quebec profanities is so fucking off.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086396/?ref_=tt_cl_t4

Voice actress is Trois Rivieres rofl


Yeah the way she says "Calisse" is awful, its pronounced "câlice", for a french studio, i don't know how you fuck that up.


I don't know either since she's from Quebec, but she sounds just absolutely wrong.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 02 2014 15:08 GMT
#251
Chicago got to her. (I have no idea what and if even a Chicago accent exists)

Anyways finished up the game, Ubisoft does have a nice base to build on here. Assassin's Creed was underwhelming when it first came out too (Prince of Persia in 3D!!!) but that franchise has redeemed itself since its launch title.

If the driving gets tuned, the online stuff gets fixed/removed, then it was a pretty good game. As for people saying some of the factions are under-involved in the story, I think that's the point? Like it's easy to get caught up in the single man versus the world and that's a bit unrealistic since his motivations aren't that grandiose. The disconnect is that midway through the story and especially towards the end, Aiden's dialogue kind of shifted towards adapting that vigilante persona. I enjoyed it, probably will finish the game and attempt at 100% when I have time.
Get it by your hands...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-02 16:55:18
June 02 2014 16:54 GMT
#252
Without Jordi Chin, this game would suck so much harder!

Also, what's the point of reputation scale?
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Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
June 02 2014 17:02 GMT
#253
the better the reputation is, the less likely it is that normal ppl call the cops on you.. its not really a big deal, but its kinda annyoing if they call the cops each time you steal a car or just run past them
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
June 02 2014 17:04 GMT
#254
On June 03 2014 00:08 Judicator wrote:
Chicago got to her. (I have no idea what and if even a Chicago accent exists)

Anyways finished up the game, Ubisoft does have a nice base to build on here. Assassin's Creed was underwhelming when it first came out too (Prince of Persia in 3D!!!) but that franchise has redeemed itself since its launch title.

If the driving gets tuned, the online stuff gets fixed/removed, then it was a pretty good game. As for people saying some of the factions are under-involved in the story, I think that's the point? Like it's easy to get caught up in the single man versus the world and that's a bit unrealistic since his motivations aren't that grandiose. The disconnect is that midway through the story and especially towards the end, Aiden's dialogue kind of shifted towards adapting that vigilante persona. I enjoyed it, probably will finish the game and attempt at 100% when I have time.

whats the problem with the online modes? imo they are really fun and you are never forced to play them. why should additional content be removed if its completely optional?
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
June 03 2014 17:45 GMT
#255
Rented the game yesterday. Just completed act 1. I don't want to sound like a troll or anything. But I feel like the game was a bit over hyped. Hacking, and combat stuff are fun. The story is pretty interesting so far. Graphically the PS3 version seems really...bad. But that could be that I was expecting it to be like GTA V. The characters all seem pretty interesting. I honestly feel like I have no reason to dive deeper into exploring the city and doing side missions.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21681 Posts
June 03 2014 18:15 GMT
#256
On June 04 2014 02:45 HeeroFX wrote:
Rented the game yesterday. Just completed act 1. I don't want to sound like a troll or anything. But I feel like the game was a bit over hyped. Hacking, and combat stuff are fun. The story is pretty interesting so far. Graphically the PS3 version seems really...bad. But that could be that I was expecting it to be like GTA V. The characters all seem pretty interesting. I honestly feel like I have no reason to dive deeper into exploring the city and doing side missions.

The game was hyped because it showed great potential.

And then they released a distinctly mediocre game
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Human41
Profile Joined May 2014
Gabon8 Posts
June 03 2014 18:53 GMT
#257
On June 04 2014 02:45 HeeroFX wrote:
Graphically the PS3 version seems really...bad. But that could be that I was expecting it to be like GTA V.


Are you drunk? GTA5 on consoles looks like horseshit. I could never play it, the graphics are worse than PC Games from 2005. Not even to mention the FPS slowdowns under 25 and all the aliasing.


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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
June 03 2014 19:48 GMT
#258
On June 04 2014 02:45 HeeroFX wrote:
Rented the game yesterday. Just completed act 1. I don't want to sound like a troll or anything. But I feel like the game was a bit over hyped. Hacking, and combat stuff are fun. The story is pretty interesting so far. Graphically the PS3 version seems really...bad. But that could be that I was expecting it to be like GTA V. The characters all seem pretty interesting. I honestly feel like I have no reason to dive deeper into exploring the city and doing side missions.


There's not a single game that doesn't look shit compared to current AAA games on PC, really. Watch Dogs was a bit underwhelming on PC aswell, but not nearly enough as the consoles (yes, even PS4 and Xbox one) the consoles just have huge limitations though. If you're playing for graphics, don't play on console, simple as that. (neither should you for any other reason but we'll leave that for another time )


The game looked okay ish to me, I didn't mind, it's an open world game, and I really didn't care as much about how pretty as it is as I did about the mechanics. Witcher 3 is a game where I'm going to care about pretty stuff!
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
June 03 2014 19:50 GMT
#259
On June 04 2014 02:45 HeeroFX wrote:
Rented the game yesterday. Just completed act 1. I don't want to sound like a troll or anything. But I feel like the game was a bit over hyped. Hacking, and combat stuff are fun. The story is pretty interesting so far. Graphically the PS3 version seems really...bad. But that could be that I was expecting it to be like GTA V. The characters all seem pretty interesting. I honestly feel like I have no reason to dive deeper into exploring the city and doing side missions.


There's not a single game that doesn't look shit compared to current AAA games on PC, really. Watch Dogs was a bit underwhelming on PC aswell, but not nearly enough as the consoles (yes, even PS4 and Xbox one) the consoles just have huge limitations though. If you're playing for graphics, don't play on console, simple as that. (neither should you for any other reason but we'll leave that for another time )


The game looked okay ish to me, I didn't mind, it's an open world game, and I really didn't care as much about how pretty as it is as I did about the mechanics. Witcher 3 is a game where I'm going to care about pretty stuff!
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 04 2014 20:11 GMT
#260
Holy shit, the main story is so awkward.

+ Show Spoiler +
Really? Love interest between Aiden and Clara and Aiden is still a massive nerdy shy ass? He's got both a "badass" voice and a shy guy who can't make the moves on a girl who obviously wants to stay?

Goddamn
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Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
June 08 2014 14:41 GMT
#261
On June 05 2014 05:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
Holy shit, the main story is so awkward.

+ Show Spoiler +
Really? Love interest between Aiden and Clara and Aiden is still a massive nerdy shy ass? He's got both a "badass" voice and a shy guy who can't make the moves on a girl who obviously wants to stay?

Goddamn

Nerdy shy ass? Try stoic. The romance between Aiden and Clara was only implied at best, if developers meant for it to be bigger then they would have made it so.

Yes, the story was awkward but for other reasons. The game itself lacks interest. After the main plot, there is little to no motivation for doing the rest of the stuff in the game. Beat the game last night and probably won't be touching it again ever.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
June 08 2014 14:59 GMT
#262
no it doesnt look amazing. it looks terrible compared to what they showed at E3. thx console players / buyers.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 09 2014 16:09 GMT
#263
The story is awkward but for entirely different reasons

+ Show Spoiler +
They basically spend large parts of the game setting up Blume as this big evil organization that you need to fight only for you to basically ignore them the entire time and nothing comes of it so when the game ends you are basically going "wait that's it... what about all that stuff blume was doing... oh watch dogs 2"
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 23:10:21
June 10 2014 23:08 GMT
#264
On June 08 2014 23:41 Emerson_H wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 05:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
Holy shit, the main story is so awkward.

+ Show Spoiler +
Really? Love interest between Aiden and Clara and Aiden is still a massive nerdy shy ass? He's got both a "badass" voice and a shy guy who can't make the moves on a girl who obviously wants to stay?

Goddamn

Nerdy shy ass? Try stoic. The romance between Aiden and Clara was only implied at best, if developers meant for it to be bigger then they would have made it so.

Yes, the story was awkward but for other reasons. The game itself lacks interest. After the main plot, there is little to no motivation for doing the rest of the stuff in the game. Beat the game last night and probably won't be touching it again ever.


You can be stoic, without acting shy around a woman about needing her help and you enjoying her company because of her expertise and, implicitly, because you guys jive well together; regardless of the overplayed romanticism it hints at. It's just pathetic that he has no outward dimension that makes him a remotely likable person given his cause for "revenge". It's blaze and the hacking is just a niche in an otherwise overplayed tune of a story. Aiden's "stoic" doesn't help his cause and I would just call it being an anti-social twit.

Saying he's stoic to compensate for his complete lop-sidedness of a personality and ability to be social without a backstory to justify it is flat-out exaggerating.

The story is awkard because it is like Aiden: lop-sided and the characters are two-dimensional.
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Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
June 10 2014 23:40 GMT
#265
Agree, he's a shit character. Shy isn't what I'd describe him as though.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 10 2014 23:42 GMT
#266
On June 11 2014 08:40 Emerson_H wrote:
Agree, he's a shit character. Shy isn't what I'd describe him as though.


Fair enough actually. I just feel that whole exchange between him and Clara really cringe and awkward.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
June 11 2014 00:15 GMT
#267
What sucks the most for Watch Dogs is that it's now become the modern gaming example for, 'Promised X, got Y' - a dubious honour previously held by Fable/Peter Molyneux. Ubisoft's E3 press conference was great (I thought) and showed off some awesome trailer/gameplay footage - but the collective gaming communities response is a comment about Watch Dogs looking great - being shit.
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
June 11 2014 00:35 GMT
#268
Been playing this over the last few days, and while the hacking stuff is pretty fun, I too feel it under-delivered when compares to the hype it generated at E3 last year. I will reserve my final judgement until I finish the game, but yeah, I'm not wowed by it so far.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 11 2014 09:35 GMT
#269
On June 11 2014 09:35 riptide wrote:
Been playing this over the last few days, and while the hacking stuff is pretty fun, I too feel it under-delivered when compares to the hype it generated at E3 last year. I will reserve my final judgement until I finish the game, but yeah, I'm not wowed by it so far.


I think I'm at the end of Act II. The missions so far and pretty lackluster admittedly and the AI is pretty depressing when you can snipe, hide, snipe and hide and nobody panics as everyone around them loses their legs...
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 11 2014 10:06 GMT
#270
Finished it

6/10 I guess.
WriterXiao8~~
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
June 11 2014 10:46 GMT
#271
another meh hyped game with dumb AI...
In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 11:01:17
June 11 2014 10:59 GMT
#272
Finished the game on PC, got some 2-3k reputation from hacking/tailing tediously. The game is good but everything around it sucks A LOT.

It's a bit like Battlefield 3, or as I call it the last Battlefield I'll ever buy, the gameplay is smooth enough, kinda simplistic with the "F" take down instant kill melee people are either good or bad and you can't "F" a civilian in the face, no punch in the face possibilities or shooting from a vehicle if you are the driver ala GTA 5 which is all fine by me, always one hand on the smartphones, OK. Mini-games are nice between the multiple betting/chess/obstaclerun and the virtual trips and gives some more playtime as solo.

But at the end of the day I got Watch_Dogs for a multiplayer with coop and seeing the last few trailers with online decryption and all I thought it would be great to play with a group of 3-4 friends with some kind of objectives but everything surrounding the multiplayer non 1v1 game sucks HARD. On PC it's near impossible to join a public session of online decryption or race and no satisfactory answer or fix has been done in the client/launcher part of the game. I can create a private session and play alone but not join a public session and the 1v1 tailing/hacking option result 80% in a freeze of the game.

Want to know what they recommend doing to maybe make it work online?
english version : https://support.ubi.com/en-US/FAQ.aspx?platformid=9&productid=2841&faqid=kA030000000efISCAY
french version with pictures : https://support.ubi.com/fr-fr/FAQ.aspx?platformid=9&brandid=1979&productid=2841&faqid=kA030000000eerLCAQ

Watch_Dogs Multiplayer ports

UDP: 9000, 9103, 11000, 11001, 11002, 11005

Uplay Launcher

TCP: 80, 443, 13000, 14000, 14008

Yes they are telling everyone to disable anything protecting your network/computer and open 11 differents ports, that's pretty common from software firm and especially game developers but they also recommend removing anything that start at the PC boot fiddling with setup in MSCONFIG so it's sure than nothing launch before Uplay and they ask you fuck up your Hosts file in windows in the french one...
I mean my PC is not going to be setup so that Uplay/watch_dogs can do what 99% of games with online interaction can naturally without setups, by disabling everything except Ubisoft shits. I even have some custom rules in Hosts file that I need for other use.

So 1st I have no intention of doing any of the shits outside of port redirection but it solves nothing and my 3-4 friends are even less likely to try to make it work after all the frustration the game created.

It's probably a great game on consoles...
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
June 13 2014 07:14 GMT
#273
So close to 100%ing the game, but the goddamn drinking game is too hard for me. I don't seem to have the coordination to keep both joysticks in the circles at the same time.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 13 2014 08:45 GMT
#274
What a strange game, it's so polarizing how sympathetic he is and yet robs people thousands of dollars at a click of a button.
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Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
June 13 2014 09:21 GMT
#275
On June 13 2014 16:14 57 Corvette wrote:
So close to 100%ing the game, but the goddamn drinking game is too hard for me. I don't seem to have the coordination to keep both joysticks in the circles at the same time.


That minigame is super easy with a mouse/keyboard. Didn't have the slightest trouble with it.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 14 2014 20:29 GMT
#276
Bum-rushing this storyline. I have a feeling it doesn't get any better in terms of plot. I'm at the Kenny part and to be honest; I'm sorry for ranting even more, but Aiden is the worst main character I've ever played with.

I literally can't think of anyone worst than Aiden. He is such a cheap protagonist.
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Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
June 16 2014 16:15 GMT
#277
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=390114

lololol look at this. disgraceful for ubisoft
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 16 2014 16:30 GMT
#278
That's the most shameful thing I've seen done in gaming in a while.
You're not getting my money ever again Ubisoft.

The worse part is that the game apparently run better with all the graphical effects back.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 16 2014 17:44 GMT
#279
I saw this, was pretty intrigued, anyone try it and does it work better?
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
June 16 2014 17:58 GMT
#280
I torrented this last week, and I do not understand the missions where you're supposed to hit a convoy and kill everyone EXCEPT 1-2 special dudes. Its so fucking hard to not just waste everyone. Even on accident. The first one took me a solid 25 tries. Its frustrating and stupid. If these guys are such scumbags, why can't I just fucking kill them?
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 16 2014 18:03 GMT
#281
On June 17 2014 02:58 Ayaz2810 wrote:
I torrented this last week, and I do not understand the missions where you're supposed to hit a convoy and kill everyone EXCEPT 1-2 special dudes. Its so fucking hard to not just waste everyone. Even on accident. The first one took me a solid 25 tries. Its frustrating and stupid. If these guys are such scumbags, why can't I just fucking kill them?


Later on in the game, that changes where you can just fucking kill them.

What I do is block the front and use either a blackout (too fucking op) ir just change lights until one car dies and destroy teh rest
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
June 16 2014 20:06 GMT
#282
apparently, the devs left the superior graphical options for PC in the game and in a working state.




My guess is that merketing told them to remove it from the PC version since consoles cant handle it and the devs got pissed off that they had to delete their work, so they added some really clear config flags in a txt file :D
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
June 16 2014 22:20 GMT
#283
On June 17 2014 01:15 Emerson_H wrote:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=390114

lololol look at this. disgraceful for ubisoft


I may actually start playing the game again assuming this works well, here's hoping!
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MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
June 16 2014 22:32 GMT
#284
do those graphics options solve popin?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 18 2014 07:37 GMT
#285
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 10:59:14
June 18 2014 10:51 GMT
#286
This is probably the worst management and PR clusterfuck of a multiplatform AAA game for 2 generations of game console / PC.

Someone going through the files included in the PC game because he had issues with performances found some files and options just not enabled and without any options anywhere to enable them. So what TheWorse( the guy that went through the files) did was find how he could activate those options and he easily found it. What his "mod" or "patch" does is give access to the hidden options, the files he made are less than 1Mo.

So now the question is why were those disabled? bugs? I only saw one feedback that it introduced flickering for lighting in dark environment but overall the upgraded graphics also came with upgraded performances especially the textures causing stuttering.

The funny thing about this whole affair is how they communicated how PC was their main goal for the game and how it would the best on PC but still a flag-bearer for next gen consoles.
And now we start seeing PR for Far Cry 4 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubisoft-Far-Cry-4-on-PS4-Xbox-One-Equivalent-to-PC-Ultra-High-446878.shtml stating that Xb1 and PS4 will have equivalent settings from PC Ultra High. There are only two possible outcome to this, either they magically make the consoles compete in power with recent PC or they just don't work on the engine(which is the same than Far cry 3 btw) and don't optimize it for PC so that the max you can attain on PC in graphics are what the consoles can provide.

For me Ubisoft just joined EA in the "won't see my money anymore" game publishers/producers/developers. DRM, Uplay, same game mechanics in most of their game ( AC, Far Cry, Watch Dogs share so many similar points in their open world aspects), multiplayer other than 1v1 unplayable, too many reasons not to take risks on another Ubisoft game for me.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3809 Posts
June 18 2014 11:01 GMT
#287
Yeh this is pretty much a 'never buy anything from ubisoft again' thing for me now.

It's a massive disrespect to deny these options to PC users
: o )
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 25 2014 13:10 GMT
#288
New patch still makes the game shit. I had to uninstall.
I beat the story, pathetic ending, pathetic bosses, pathetic last sad note.

I'm only ragging on this game so hard because I really wanted it to be awesome.

Thank God Grid Autosport is coming out soon
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 25 2014 15:52 GMT
#289
At least now it does look good, lol.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
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