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exkgb
United States504 Posts
Creolophus vs fnatic.Vankor U5.Pato vs fnatic.Bjarke WE.Sky vs mTw.Zerter mTw.winner.reset vs lol_vx_xd TmG)Homerunball vs WE.Soju 4k.TOD vs U5.Levin SK.Hot vs bgx.justdisel mordack_pa vs Giacomo 4K.FoV vs Nightwolf wnv.XiaoT vs Neytpoh 4K.Grubby vs Myth.Carefly SK.Deadman/apm70 vs Alt)flyshow bu_hero vs 3LFear Mouz.BenQ.Shortround vs janby WE.Suho vs mTw.Wizard Mouz.Philbot vs SK.Insomnia Predictions? | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
fnatic.Bjarke WE.Sky mTw.WinneR-reseT WE.Soju 4K.ToD SK.HoT 4K.FoV wNv.xiaOt 4K.Grubby SK.Deadman 3L.Fear mouz.benQ.Shortround mTw.Wizard SK.Insomnia | ||
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NotSorry
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NeoIllusions
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exkgb
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SunShine
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
U5.Pato < fnatic.Bjarke (Another close one that could go either way. Pato has become soooo good as of late, but I don't know if he has what it takes to topple Bjarke) WE.Sky > mTw.Zerter mTw.winner.reset > lol_vx_xd TmG)Homerunball < WE.Soju (Again, could go either way...) 4k.ToD > U5.Levin SK.Hot > bgx.justdisel mordack_pa < Giacomo 4K.FoV > Nightwolf wnv.XiaoT > Neytpoh 4K.Grubby > Myth.Carefly SK.Deadman/apm70 > Alt)flyshow bu_hero < 3LFear Mouz.BenQ.Shortround > janby WE.Suho > mTw.Wizard Mouz.Philbot < SK.Insomnia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ fnatic.Vankor > fnatic.Bjarke (Another close one, could go either way) WE.Sky > mTw.winner.reset WE.Soju > 4k.ToD (Could go either way...) SK.Hot > Giacomo 4K.FoV > wnv.XiaoT 4K.Grubby < SK.Deadman/apm70 (Could go either way, but I'm going with "an upset". Deadman has been practicing hard in Germany as of late and should be well prepared) 3LFear < Mouz.BenQ.Shortround WE.Suho > SK.Insomnia ------------------------------------------------------------------------ fnatic.Vankor < WE.Sky WE.Soju > SK.Hot 4K.FoV < SK.Deadman/apm70 (Could go either way, but I'm going with "an upset" again.) Mouz.BenQ.Shortround > WE.Suho (Very tough one to call... I'm going with Shortround out of American pride, but would not be surprised either way) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WE.Sky > WE.Soju (So hard to call, but Sky has been really impressive as of late.) SK.Deadman/apm70 > Mouz.BenQ.Shortround ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sky > Deadman Soju > Shortround ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Those are my predictions, but admittedly the bracket could look completely different as so many of these matchups starting in round 2 are insanely close. Grubby could of course win the whole thing. So could ToD, or HomeRunBall, and maybe a couple of others. There are so many possibilities. But this is just what I think has a good shot of happening. I wouldn't bet a lot of money on any outcome though. | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5459 Posts
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
But I would not be surprised if he did. I'd personally love to see that. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
U5.Pato vs fnatic.Bjarke->bjarke WE.Sky vs mTw.Zerter->sky mTw.winner.reset vs lol_vx_xd->winner TmG)Homerunball vs WE.Soju->soju 4k.TOD vs U5.Levin->tod SK.Hot vs bgx.justdisel->hot mordack_pa vs Giacomo->giacomo 4K.FoV vs Nightwolf->FoV wnv.XiaoT vs Neytpoh->xiaot 4K.Grubby vs Myth.Carefly->Grubby SK.Deadman/apm70 vs Alt)flyshow->Deadman bu_hero vs 3LFear ->nocloue Mouz.BenQ.Shortround vs janby->short WE.Suho vs mTw.Wizard->suho Mouz.Philbot vs SK.Insomnia->insomnia | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
suho better man up and win against wizard, that chump denied him acon4 title. xiaot => nothing to worry about ^_^ but i don't expect him to take a title. | ||
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imcl85
Canada115 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13365 Posts
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
Also take into account a large portion of the Brood War WCG threads are ACTUALLY about Bunny, therefore indirectly being about WarCraft 3, and you have a much higher number than there should ever be at a "Brood War" website =] | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17719 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27172 Posts
On November 18 2005 19:52 imcl85 wrote: Wow wc3 sure lack of fans lol look at sc update vs wc3 update 60+ page vs lol 1 page sad. Then you dont need to post in this thread if you dont care do you? | ||
GTR
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GTR
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
A little surprised Creo won, but I guess if he is in shape (which I doubted) then it's not a surprise at all, so hopefully he is, in which case I'd predict him to beat Bjarke. | ||
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GTR
51576 Posts
the battle in the middle decided it all, fov lost his lich and DK really fast | ||
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SunShine
Netherlands787 Posts
Creo vs SkY Tod vs Hot Fov vs Grubby Shortround vs Suho | ||
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GTR
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Tod <-> Hot Fov <-> Grubby Shortround <-> Suho EDIT: WTF | ||
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SunShine
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SoleSteeler
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SunShine
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SoleSteeler
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they're all good | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
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dantemustdie
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
on a seperate note. Mouz.Shortround beat Grubby.. I'm SO HAPPY GRUBBY LOST!!!! | ||
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dantemustdie
105 Posts
you speak like no UD ever win an Orc before lolz | ||
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GTR
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dantemustdie
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
On November 19 2005 02:04 dantemustdie wrote: Sky beat Winner doesnt mean the fact that UD not imba vs HU . And Sky>Winner skillwise you speak like no UD ever win an Orc before lolz Then tell me WHEN has a top UD beaten a top ORC of comparable skill when its a very important game? FoV vs XiaoT does come to mind but IMO FoV is simply the better player and even then the matches were close. Did you ever try to play UD vs ORC before? I can't express the frustration.... I can micro better, kill his hero N times in early/mid game. But once he gets that tier 2 expansion up and start massing air and Attack move and spam spells, its GG. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Bobo_XIII
United States429 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5459 Posts
and uhm... why aren't they releasing the replays...? | ||
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uidf
Seychelles370 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17719 Posts
On November 19 2005 02:39 exkgb wrote: Then tell me WHEN has a top UD beaten a top ORC of comparable skill when its a very important game? FoV vs XiaoT does come to mind but IMO FoV is simply the better player and even then the matches were close. Did you ever try to play UD vs ORC before? I can't express the frustration.... I can micro better, kill his hero N times in early/mid game. But once he gets that tier 2 expansion up and start massing air and Attack move and spam spells, its GG. I totally agree on the "I can't express the frustration..." part (on the rest aswell). And the orc doesn't have to spam spells, wyv/bats on bloodlust rape anything you'll throw out at them. He only needs to perss 1, a, click, 2, a, click, enter, gg, enter sit there and relax drinking coke and smoking a cig while undead player is sweating and doing wonders at 150% of his capabilities in a vain effort to do anything. | ||
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pirate cod
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SunShine
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SunShine
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Thengel
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inkblot
United States1250 Posts
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SoleSteeler
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
But, Shortround IS still trying to make me look good for my loss to him in WCG, so he's got an obligation to fulfill  | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On November 19 2005 09:46 SunShine wrote: KK won't be updating or posting anything here again since I'm sick of the mentality of the admin team and 80% of the posters. I bid you farewell. Not sure if you'll see this, but if you do, care to elaborate? I'm not sure which of the admins you're referring to or in what light, but in regards to WarCraft 3 they've been surprisingly passive and have never caused any problems that I'm aware of. Well, the REAL staff anyway. There's 1-2 newsposter type people that occasionally do, but I think that's more for shits and giggles due to the sheer ignorance of what they post in comparison to how they normally are. As far as some of the posters... People will be ignorant and rude where ever you go. While this place may not be perfect, it's a lot better than many places out there and I wouldn't let it get to you too much. You've been a great poster here, it would be a shame to see you go. | ||
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NeoIllusions
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
he's fighting to keep his dream alive! he will win | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
But I have to agree, he does deserve this win more than Shortround. Shortround even said himself he hasn't been practicing much because of school, and I know Sky has been going all out preparing. | ||
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
Seems like WE.Sky is here to finish off what ChinaHuman came so close to doing a couple years back Oh sole-steeler, in ESWC2005, FoV beat grubby in 1 game during the group stage. Subsequently, Grubby went on to rape Sweet, Reign ( Both top korean UDs ) and win the tourney. FoV was knocked out by deadman. I'm VERY VERY hAPPY that somebody RAPED grubby, he always takes out my favourate UD player from the tournament. | ||
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Bobo_XIII
United States429 Posts
On November 19 2005 15:01 haduken wrote: sky so fucking deserves this. you guys don't know the conditions he trains under, in china if you play pro then it means you get shitz (like 1 dollar for food and sleep on the chair in netcafe). Last year he aruged with his parents and promised if he doesn't win something big this year then he will go back to finding a job. he's fighting to keep his dream alive! he will win What? Where did you read this... | ||
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karelen
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
It's one of the few "imbalances" Human has. There's really nothing an Elf can do at all to counter a Human tower rush from close spawns, due to militia. | ||
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oneiro
Australia453 Posts
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logitech
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
next maps are LT EI both very good for sky | ||
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ComicBookArtist
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
Sky fast expoing on LT, prolly doing tier 2 mass gyro. shortround do mass tier 1 suicide attack. Sky will rape shortround IMO | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
Under the current meta-game, it's more of an Orc map than anything, but it's absolutely the worst Night Elf ladder map, so it will favor the Human in this case. | ||
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
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ComicBookArtist
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exkgb
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exkgb
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PanoRaMa
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logitech
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GTR
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
On November 19 2005 20:30 ComicBookArtist wrote: Can anyone explain to me how LT favors Human ? in LT, the expo is close enough to the main that you can millitian creep and millitia defend your expo when needed. So almost all HU fast expand on this map. Thats exactly what sky did, he used this advantage nicely. If the game had been played out normally instead of shortround doing the rush, think sky would've gon mass tower gyro, which is nearly impossible to beat with NE I'm happy sky won!!! | ||
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Manit0u
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exkgb
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GTR
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exkgb
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
Home.Sky, remember this ID folks. He is now immortal. | ||
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SoleSteeler
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Prawned
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Orlandu
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On November 20 2005 03:52 haduken wrote: i hope 8da.2k (aka chinahuman) is watching this. I would be so emotional if i was in his position. chinahuman is known as the best achiever in bost sc and wc but now finally after all these years, chinese gamer finally won a world championship. Home.Sky, remember this ID folks. He is now immortal. Is it CPHK(randomly arranged the letters i remember:D)? | ||
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Bobo_XIII
United States429 Posts
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Judicator
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
WEG and Acon are both big, but are much smaller competitions so aren't as highly valued I think. | ||
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Elsi
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
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St3MoR
Spain3256 Posts
On November 20 2005 18:00 exkgb wrote: would be nice, his sister is hot!oh. btw. ChinaHuman aka CQ2000 is trying to mount a comeback in the WC scene.. wish him luck! | ||
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Sfydjklm
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
I don't know much about the war3 community though! About Ben, the UK player--I think he was involved in a playoff to see who qualified from his group, but I guess he failed. I was in charge of one of the playoffs on the second day of group stage, between Fire (Austria), Paladyn (Poland), and Pato (Brazil or something :O). The first playoff went Fire > Paladyn, Pato > Fire, Paladyn > Pato. Therefore we got to have ANOTHER round of playoffs. That time Pato beat both Paladyn and Fire, so we were done. It was like 10 PM when we finally finished that though. Blah! (Referees left the hotel at 8 AM each morning) | ||
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NeoIllusions
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haduken
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dantemustdie
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On November 21 2005 06:45 haduken wrote: ESWC, ACON, WEG, WCg are like the four grand slam of war3. I believe ESWC is very european dominated, WEG is a korean show, ACON was only held twice but i think its shifting towards Chinese dominated because its held in China -_-, WCG is a bastard case, no korean has won a title yet -_-. Seems like the home advantage plays quite a role =P Not sure if it really does or not, but just reading over your post, I realized that in a lot of cases it is that way... Except of course when FoV won ESWC 2004. Though it helps that the majority of players are European. | ||
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exkgb
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haduken
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
On November 21 2005 18:27 haduken wrote: there should not be any single eliminations in war3. It's also very sad and ironic at the same time to see WEG making maps to counter Moon's domination. Its actuallly more like to make maps to balance out the races and Moon lost to Sase which is another NE and got knocked out. 3 top korean UDs and 1 Orc fighting it out in WEG now... woohooo | ||
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Orlandu
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Manit0u
Poland17719 Posts
On November 21 2005 18:57 Orlandu wrote: Like I've said, Undeads are becoming stronger and learning to counter Elves, which is why Undeads are becoming increasingly difficult for Elves these days. Soon we will see "Imba UD!" commentaries all over the net ^_^ | ||
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
HU is imba vs everything on LT NE is imba on all tavern maps and big maps ORC is just.... always imba. | ||
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suxN
Finland1167 Posts
Yes, some games have more luck than others, and some are based on luck only (ie dice rolling). And no, i dont think that Bo3 without losers bracket is long enough run to analyze skill in wc3.. however Sky is really great player, deserved to win. But im not quite sure about shortround, i dont think he should have finished top4, he is good player with exceptional manner, but not the best of his race in my opinion. I cant see the imbalance, and i think people should rather switch race than whine.. or switch the whole game.. But yeah, the game was badly imbalanced at some point, and im glad that its fixed. | ||
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ElegantSolution
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On November 22 2005 06:36 haduken wrote: i can only think of one NE player in the wcg that i think is equal or pass shortround's skill. WE.Soju a 2nd tier korean pro, shortround did very good last wcg too so people lets not forget that. Yeah, and both WEG and WEG II. | ||
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Prose
Canada314 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5459 Posts
did they go all the way to top 30? maybe i'm thinking of something different edit: http://www.sk-gaming.com/feature/586/3/ | ||
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inkblot
United States1250 Posts
On November 22 2005 06:36 haduken wrote: i can only think of one NE player in the wcg that i think is equal or pass shortround's skill. WE.Soju a 2nd tier korean pro, shortround did very good last wcg too so people lets not forget that. Deadman is as good as Short or SoJu I would think. On a somewhat related note, the game between Bjarke and Qpool.Neytpoh in the group stages is very good, 40 minute game on LT with lots of expansions, spells, ultimates, etc. | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
I dunno what the maps were, but my best guess is just that Shortround knows Grubby better and has played him much more and was better suited to his style of play, whereas Deadman isn't and was probably quite a bit more nervous. Shortround didn't expect to go far and so probably wasn't as nervous. | ||
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inkblot
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Amnesty
United States2054 Posts
Guess i don't understand this game at all -_- | ||
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inkblot
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