On April 17 2012 10:37 Arkless wrote: Ughhh, I really hate all this SC2 campaign is shit talk. You havn't even played it all. You played one part of three, and to be honest I enjoyed WoL's story more than just the terran story in bw/sc1 personally.
This has no basis whatsoever. Before TFT and Before D2 their predecessors were hailed for having good story and background, backed with interesting new characters. RoC was really good with characters that invoke emotions from players and D1, despite it's very little dimension, had in interesting characters and story lines like Wirt, Cain, Griswold, Farnham, Leoric, Diablo, Butcher.
What does SC2 has? Narud = Duran. Seriously, who'd knew that Duran became a white, old person name Narud!!
That's because the story is designed differently. RoC had its own story which kind of ended with the death of Archimonde while TFT explored more of Arthas' story and how he became the Lich King. Sc2 has 1 big story cut in 3 games it's just a whole different kind of story telling.
You have to see wc3 RoC as a book where the main story ends and TFT then as another book which expands on Arthas while sc2 is a book split in 3 volumes.
Yeah, but the first volume sucks.
True but the BW campaign like I said earlier really didn't have that good of a story either maybe it was a bit better but not that much.
It was much better, especially considering the technical possibilities now and then. Of course it wasn't perfect but it did manage to tell a story of characters, betrayal and war with the few tools the game had. SC2:WOL could have told a much grander tale but they settled for entertainment for kids, a ridiculous storyline and the most cliched characters possible.
Well maybe I shouldnt post this but.... Well in this thread I had like 10 post regarding how weird it was for blizzard storywise to continue with D3, this was then before the game was released and I argued there was no reasonable storyline left to follow from D2 LoD. Okay I know wrong place for that argument and obviously I continually ran into a wall of fanatic D3 fans.
I would love for someone to come back now and describe how fantastic the story of D3 is and how it compares to the original Diablo, Warcraft 3 and so on. Perfect story execution and everything, I am sure Bioware brought there notepads so they could implement all this great story telling into there next big franchise.
What shocks me is the very low quality of dialogs. They feel as they were written by 14 years old who just saw the lord of the ring movies and thinks he is a now a professional writter. Sadly, the reason for this is the amount of content they have to produce and it probably ends up with half of original placeholders.
I think their priorities have changed. Until 2002: Blizzard was a passionate game developer company, who mostly cared about players' experience. After 2002: Blizzard is money-making machine, with one and only goal - make more money. I don't wanna disregard those (few) people in the company who still thrive to make outstanding games, but I feel they're not valued by the company anymore. Their efforts are to please a small chunk of (old-fashioned) gamers who still value some important aspects of video games, and it doesn't help overall revenue. Instead Blizzard will try to hire someone who can work ads/item store/gift shop shits.
My complaints about blizzard can be summarised by the progression of these videos alone.
Compare either of those to.
Blizzard can still make a fucking fantastic cinematic when they want to. You're comparing a beta preview to two pre-rendered cinematics. If you're going to make comparisons at least compare them with their new pre-rendered cinematics.
The Blizzard of today isn't the Blizzard most of us grew up with. Its now a pretty soulless company focused on their bottom dollar first and only then about making good games people will be passionate about.
On April 17 2012 03:24 Eeevil wrote: Wait a minute. Blizzard has never been about revlutionary gameplay or original stories. The only original game Blizzard ever made was The Lost Vikings....maybe Diablo, I don't know enough of that game's history to know.
Blizzard makes games that are generally unoriginal, but of very high quality and for a wider range of PC power than other developpers.
And there are extremely few game storylines that are actually interesting, let alone original. Sc2 was disappointing for Blizzard standards, but the WOW storytelling has been improved a lot since vanilla....
BTW I never heard anyone talk about Diablo and it's great storyline. I never played these games, did D1 and 2 have an orignal story apart from Evil is threatening everything, you have to save everything by killing evil ?
Blizzard is playing it safe when it comes to game development, and that's just as it ought to be.
Yep they indeed improved storytelling. too bad story they tell now is shit.
In all fairness, it's pretty difficult to top the greatness of WoW and Starcraft. It's not just Blizzard. All their competitors have failed to put out something better than the aforementioned two titles. We heard about all these "WoW-killers" and how they are different from WoW, but they've all fizzled into oblivion.
D2 is also pretty much uncontested although Torchlight was superb. Maybe Torchlight 2 will serve as a wake-up call for Blizzard if it manages to out-perform D3.
I would really like to see Blizzard return to Ghost and try their hand at the FPS genre (for PC though, not console).
Blizzard can still make a fucking fantastic cinematic when they want to. You're comparing a beta preview to two pre-rendered cinematics. If you're going to make comparisons at least compare them with their new pre-rendered cinematics.
Although I believe that the BW and D2 cinematics had more depth than the more modern variants. My point actually doesn't really have anything to do with the cinematics alone.
How did we get from Orcs vs Humans to Happy Asian Humanoid Pandas in the same universe?
Blizzard can still make a fucking fantastic cinematic when they want to. You're comparing a beta preview to two pre-rendered cinematics. If you're going to make comparisons at least compare them with their new pre-rendered cinematics.
I was going to say something about these exact videos. The top two videos alone contributed to several ruined keyboard from the fantastic amount of jizz exploding everywhere when I saw them for the first time.
On June 29 2012 20:11 MayorITC wrote: In all fairness, it's pretty difficult to top the greatness of WoW and Starcraft. It's not just Blizzard. All their competitors have failed to put out something better than the aforementioned two titles. We heard about all these "WoW-killers" and how they are different from WoW, but they've all fizzled into oblivion.
D2 is also pretty much uncontested although Torchlight was superb. Maybe Torchlight 2 will serve as a wake-up call for Blizzard if it manages to out-perform D3.
I would really like to see Blizzard return to Ghost and try their hand at the FPS genre (for PC though, not console).
It depends on what you're looking for in the game. I've tried WoW (vanilla and BC) and was left underwhelmed, it was pretty much crap compared to titles like AoC and LotRO, both of which I enjoyed a lot for quite a while. Still, the best MMO I've played so far was Guild Wars, as I've been playing it for years and still occassionally play it.
StarCraft and WarCraft would be killed by Armies of Exigo, if only EA was smart enough to put some effort into advertising it along with their Battle for Middlearth instead of throwing it into the corner. You can even check AoX topics on this very forums to see how impressed people were with it and what grand names of RTS were involved in its testing. A pity, really.
For some time now Blizzard has failed to impress me at all. I've been a huge Diablo and WarCraft junkie for many years. D2:LoD was a big disappointment for me, so was WoW and I didn't even bother with SC2 and D3 because from what little of it I saw and tried out thanks to some friends I already know that this products aren't worth their money and wouldn't bring me any joy.
For Blizzard it would take a completely new franchise, perhaps a completely new type of game we haven't seen before, that would be truly awesome to get my respect back. As it is I don't give a damn what comes out of their stable because they continue to let me down.
Well, one of the most blasphemous blunders they did was cramming "comic relief" into their games. Every thime the buthcer says meat bad, vegetables good I cringe to the bottom of my soul and putting whymsyshire into d3 instead of a real endgame level is not only retarded but also disrespectful to the game and its playerbase.
Who even appreciates these things? I thought 5-year-olds preferred horror to cheesy humor and I sure as hell know adults like me find it extremely annoying. Had it even been remotely funny to begin with, it's still gimmicky as hell and gets stale in a matter of days.
Some really bad decisions on their part, that's for sure.
On June 29 2012 21:45 Kickboxer wrote: Well, one of the most blasphemous blunders they did was cramming "comic relief" into their games. Every thime the buthcer says meat bad, vegetables good I cringe to the bottom of my soul and putting whymsyshire into d3 instead of a real endgame level is not only retarded but also disrespectful to the game and its playerbase.
Who even appreciates these things? I thought 5-year-olds preferred horror to cheesy humor and I sure as hell know adults like me find it extremely annoying. Had it even been remotely funny to begin with, it's still gimmicky as hell and gets stale in a matter of days.
Some really bad decisions on their part, that's for sure.
... cow level thereisnocowlevel nearly every single terran cinematic in the original starcraft
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