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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 30 2012 10:39 GMT
#761
I think in the Depths the rats only drop humanity until you killed the gaping dragon.
Ventil
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden414 Posts
August 30 2012 10:39 GMT
#762
On August 30 2012 19:39 Skilledblob wrote:
I think in the Depths the rats only drop humanity until you killed the gaping dragon.

False. They continue to drop even after gaping dragon is taken down.
Twitter: @VeNtiLSC
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 30 2012 10:40 GMT
#763
On August 30 2012 19:39 Skilledblob wrote:
I think in the Depths the rats only drop humanity until you killed the gaping dragon.

No, they keep dropping humanity. However, you stop getting humanity "directly to your stack" so to speak.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 30 2012 12:31 GMT
#764
On August 30 2012 19:36 heishe wrote:
Yeah, farmed the rats for a while (I'm about level 60 I think). Is the maximum amount still 10? I thought this was only for farming "live" humanity when killing enemies before a boss is down. I did some runs, and each run netted 1-2 humanities (with 170 item discovery), but then at some point it just stopped, and I didn't get any more in 5 runs. At that point I had 9 humanities in my inventory, but I used at least one (don't know if it was exactly one, though).

You can carry up to 99 Humanity "tokens" in your inventory. The Humanity you acquire automatically (your counter increases) through killing enemies may have a limit though, and only works if a zone's boss is still alive.

I highly recommend the baby skeletons before Nito. You can get into a comfortable rhythm and they drop at a decent rate if you have ~10 humanity on your counter and the serpent ring that improves drop rate. Just be sure to grab them quickly as soon as you see one drop however, since the rapid respawning also despawns corpses quickly too.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
August 30 2012 12:53 GMT
#765
Killed the Anor Londo boss, and upon going upstairs and entering the door to get the Lordvessel, I read a sign "Amazing chest ahead".

I went in and looked around for a loot chest. It took a while but eventually I got it, lol.

On August 30 2012 21:31 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 19:36 heishe wrote:
Yeah, farmed the rats for a while (I'm about level 60 I think). Is the maximum amount still 10? I thought this was only for farming "live" humanity when killing enemies before a boss is down. I did some runs, and each run netted 1-2 humanities (with 170 item discovery), but then at some point it just stopped, and I didn't get any more in 5 runs. At that point I had 9 humanities in my inventory, but I used at least one (don't know if it was exactly one, though).

You can carry up to 99 Humanity "tokens" in your inventory. The Humanity you acquire automatically (your counter increases) through killing enemies may have a limit though, and only works if a zone's boss is still alive.

I highly recommend the baby skeletons before Nito. You can get into a comfortable rhythm and they drop at a decent rate if you have ~10 humanity on your counter and the serpent ring that improves drop rate. Just be sure to grab them quickly as soon as you see one drop however, since the rapid respawning also despawns corpses quickly too.


Thanks!


If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
August 30 2012 13:00 GMT
#766
On August 30 2012 21:53 heishe wrote:
Killed the Anor Londo boss, and upon going upstairs and entering the door to get the Lordvessel, I read a sign "Amazing chest ahead".

I went in and looked around for a loot chest. It took a while but eventually I got it, lol.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:31 Duka08 wrote:
On August 30 2012 19:36 heishe wrote:
Yeah, farmed the rats for a while (I'm about level 60 I think). Is the maximum amount still 10? I thought this was only for farming "live" humanity when killing enemies before a boss is down. I did some runs, and each run netted 1-2 humanities (with 170 item discovery), but then at some point it just stopped, and I didn't get any more in 5 runs. At that point I had 9 humanities in my inventory, but I used at least one (don't know if it was exactly one, though).

You can carry up to 99 Humanity "tokens" in your inventory. The Humanity you acquire automatically (your counter increases) through killing enemies may have a limit though, and only works if a zone's boss is still alive.

I highly recommend the baby skeletons before Nito. You can get into a comfortable rhythm and they drop at a decent rate if you have ~10 humanity on your counter and the serpent ring that improves drop rate. Just be sure to grab them quickly as soon as you see one drop however, since the rapid respawning also despawns corpses quickly too.


Thanks!



Classic, I saw that one in the 360 version the first time I got there as well :D
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 30 2012 13:16 GMT
#767
Fight Gaping Dragon, bring him down to 1% HP, try to finish him off cool, die.

I fucking hate myself right now.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
August 30 2012 13:24 GMT
#768
On August 30 2012 22:16 FliedLice wrote:
Fight Gaping Dragon, bring him down to 1% HP, try to finish him off cool, die.

I fucking hate myself right now.

that sucks so hard, I know that feel bro

did you take lautrec and the sun knight with you?
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 13:33:27
August 30 2012 13:33 GMT
#769
Yeah but they didn't really do anything, they just stood in front of the dragon and he slapped em with his tail and stomped his feet until they were dead. :D

Overall the fight is pretty easy I'd say. As long as you're just patient enough, the only thing that tends to really scare me is when he takes off and tries to land on you. Apart from that its just running around, wait until he slams his body on the ground and hit him 1-3 times, then back off before the charge and hit him again afterwards.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 17:02:31
August 30 2012 16:19 GMT
#770
On August 30 2012 17:33 anatase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 07:15 Fyrewolf wrote:
On August 30 2012 06:16 anatase wrote:
I was blocked against the Bell gargoyle for quite a while so I tried different way and I ended up in the grassroot gardens after defeating that miniboss, fighting weird moving treants, some giant soldiers,+ Show Spoiler +
running on items on the ground, which finally led me to get the Vegetal Shield; the Elite knight set, but also the leather set and the brigands set.
I made that on pure randomness so i was quite amazed to find all this.
Then while walking in the darkroot garden i ended up in the basin, where I had to fight this Black knight, and I ****ing defeated him! First time I could do this. This allowed me to go to the Drake's valley where I couldn't stand a single chance + Show Spoiler +
but I tried to fight the first drake who destroyed me with quite ease while I couldn't do any proper damage (even with the drake sword).
Nonetheless I spotted the shiny soul on the bridge after thi.s Drake and the one on the bridge it-self and I decided i would go on a suicide run to get it... and it was the spider shield


I don't know how good is that item but I don't see much use for it as my vegetal shield is really awesome.

Then I decided I could and would rip the head of the precedent Black Knights, hoping for some luck drop, but I didn't get anything except for plain satisfaction and a ring for one of them.

Still, I managed to beat the gargoyle after that which made me absolutely happy.

Now that i am in the lower undeadburg I went to the Carpa Demon and I couldn't move for 3 step: the demon rushed me really fast and I wasn't able to parish its attack despite the fact i was guarding, then the dogs bit me to death while the demon was laughing pointing at me.


ps: what was that kind of Hydra at the Darkroot basin, seems like some piece of huge boss.


Lol at transalation, vegatal shield. It is really good even if it's not 100% phys because rolling>blocking, especially if you like to 2 hand your weapons anyway. That second shield, besides looking pretty cool, does have a special use. It completely blocks poison damage through your shield, which is very useful once against the blowdarters in blighttown (their toxic actually kills you very quickly, while poison is just a nuisance).

Also the black knights do rarely drop their weapons, which are really good, but it's hard to get them since they can't be farmed + Show Spoiler +
until final area
and you usually need to increase your item discovery (by holding a few humanity, and with one of 2 other special items).

Capra demon pissed me off to no end the first time I played the game because of how quickly he'll attack you. The fog clears to reveal your mangled corpse if he attacks immediately. + Show Spoiler +
Run and jump fowards and to the left right away to (hopefully) reach the useful stairs.


Hydra is actually very easy if you get to the shore. Contender for easiest boss in the game.



Yeah this is the Green Crest shield : D I wish I would use the game in english but I don't know how to change GFWL region AND I heard gamesaves could stop working quite easily, maybe it would stop because of this so I'll finish this game first ^^.

About the drop chance and the humanity, do i have to use the humanity (and be human while having humanity in my stash) to increase my chances or do i just need to have them in my stash ?


You do not have to be human(reverse hollowing), just be holding soft/loose humanity(as numbers next to your health bar). Hard/solid humanity items do nothing. You only need to hold a few humanity to greatly raise your item discovery because of diminishing returns. Holding 1 humanity gives you 150 item discovery (+50), however it drops to +8 per humanity after that. Holding 5 will give you 180, and up to 10 will give you 210 item discovery. There are two items which increase item discovery by 200, but do not stack with each other only humanity, so max item discovery is 410.

The two special items and how to get them: + Show Spoiler +
The Covetous Gold Serpent Ring: Sen's Fortress, At the bottom of the last stairs that switchback a lot the boulders roll down (near the mimic), the bottom wall will be broken open if you let enough boulders come down, revealing a chest with the ring.

Symbol of Avarice (Mimic Chest Helm, looks hilarious) Mimic chests do not respawn, however they can be farmed. Buy a lot of Lloyd's talismans (undead burg merchant male). Use a very weak attack to wake the mimic up, such as unarmed punching, then throw a lloyd's talisman at it to make it fall asleep (you can loot the chest while it's asleep and it will not wake). You will be able to see the item if it drops glowing in the chest, take it to make sure it's not just their gauranteed drop the first time. Repeat until you get the mimic helm. My current playthorugh I got it after 7 talismans, but I've also gone through 99 before and not gotten it, so stock up. This helm also acts like and stacks with the Silver Serpent ring(+20% souls, with both 144%), but it drains 5 hp per second.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
August 30 2012 16:24 GMT
#771
I picked up about 15-20 humanity while progressing on the DLC's final boss, those "mobs" drop a LOT. Screw grinding rats for hours.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
August 30 2012 16:26 GMT
#772
No matter how many times you go through the game

Bed of Chaos is still a fucking asshole
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
August 30 2012 16:31 GMT
#773
On August 31 2012 01:24 Resilient wrote:
I picked up about 15-20 humanity while progressing on the DLC's final boss, those "mobs" drop a LOT. Screw grinding rats for hours.


I haven't hit any limit yet, so I think the best place for humanity now is from marvelous chester, but I'm not sure yet. He sells them for 10,000 souls each, and farming souls is way faster and easier than humanity, unless you're doing the annoying baby skeletons that toxic you and despawn immediately before NIto on new game +.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
August 30 2012 16:32 GMT
#774
I have to say that I'm really disappointed by the bosses so far. Gaping dragon is easy, hydra is easy, the fire spider is easy and the minotaur thing near the beginning of the game is easy. The only boss that actually was hard was the two gargoyles. Will the bosses get harder or is this it?
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 16:38:09
August 30 2012 16:33 GMT
#775
On August 31 2012 01:32 Xanbatou wrote:
I have to say that I'm really disappointed by the bosses so far. Gaping dragon is easy, hydra is easy, the fire spider is easy and the minotaur thing near the beginning of the game is easy. The only boss that actually was hard was the two gargoyles. Will the bosses get harder or is this it?

If you thought the gargoyles were hard then dont worry.

edit* although I do agree with you some bosses can be astoundingly easy. I killed quelaag on my first try with the barbarian chick and it took no effort at all. Was expecting her to be really hard. I had some pretty good gear though I guess.


On August 31 2012 01:36 lynx.oblige wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:53 heishe wrote:
Killed the Anor Londo boss, and upon going upstairs and entering the door to get the Lordvessel, I read a sign "Amazing chest ahead".

I went in and looked around for a loot chest. It took a while but eventually I got it, lol.

On August 30 2012 21:31 Duka08 wrote:
On August 30 2012 19:36 heishe wrote:
Yeah, farmed the rats for a while (I'm about level 60 I think). Is the maximum amount still 10? I thought this was only for farming "live" humanity when killing enemies before a boss is down. I did some runs, and each run netted 1-2 humanities (with 170 item discovery), but then at some point it just stopped, and I didn't get any more in 5 runs. At that point I had 9 humanities in my inventory, but I used at least one (don't know if it was exactly one, though).

You can carry up to 99 Humanity "tokens" in your inventory. The Humanity you acquire automatically (your counter increases) through killing enemies may have a limit though, and only works if a zone's boss is still alive.

I highly recommend the baby skeletons before Nito. You can get into a comfortable rhythm and they drop at a decent rate if you have ~10 humanity on your counter and the serpent ring that improves drop rate. Just be sure to grab them quickly as soon as you see one drop however, since the rapid respawning also despawns corpses quickly too.


Thanks!




Genuinely made me laugh.

I had the same thing for quelaag haha
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
August 30 2012 16:35 GMT
#776
sigh... got cursed and my weapon broke right before gaping dragon. GG.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
August 30 2012 16:36 GMT
#777
On August 30 2012 21:53 heishe wrote:
Killed the Anor Londo boss, and upon going upstairs and entering the door to get the Lordvessel, I read a sign "Amazing chest ahead".

I went in and looked around for a loot chest. It took a while but eventually I got it, lol.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:31 Duka08 wrote:
On August 30 2012 19:36 heishe wrote:
Yeah, farmed the rats for a while (I'm about level 60 I think). Is the maximum amount still 10? I thought this was only for farming "live" humanity when killing enemies before a boss is down. I did some runs, and each run netted 1-2 humanities (with 170 item discovery), but then at some point it just stopped, and I didn't get any more in 5 runs. At that point I had 9 humanities in my inventory, but I used at least one (don't know if it was exactly one, though).

You can carry up to 99 Humanity "tokens" in your inventory. The Humanity you acquire automatically (your counter increases) through killing enemies may have a limit though, and only works if a zone's boss is still alive.

I highly recommend the baby skeletons before Nito. You can get into a comfortable rhythm and they drop at a decent rate if you have ~10 humanity on your counter and the serpent ring that improves drop rate. Just be sure to grab them quickly as soon as you see one drop however, since the rapid respawning also despawns corpses quickly too.


Thanks!




Genuinely made me laugh.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 16:47:19
August 30 2012 16:43 GMT
#778
On August 31 2012 01:32 Xanbatou wrote:
I have to say that I'm really disappointed by the bosses so far. Gaping dragon is easy, hydra is easy, the fire spider is easy and the minotaur thing near the beginning of the game is easy. The only boss that actually was hard was the two gargoyles. Will the bosses get harder or is this it?


Those are among the easier bosses. Gaping dragon is predictable, hydra doesn't do much, quelaag can be tricky if you are alone and melee, taurus is supposed to be easy first boss. Hydra is just a miniboss as well. Also everything will get a lot harder on higher difficulty levels. Just new game + alone will double enemies hp and triple their damage and aggresiveness, getting through new game + + + will kick most gamers butts.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
August 30 2012 17:15 GMT
#779
On August 31 2012 01:43 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 01:32 Xanbatou wrote:
I have to say that I'm really disappointed by the bosses so far. Gaping dragon is easy, hydra is easy, the fire spider is easy and the minotaur thing near the beginning of the game is easy. The only boss that actually was hard was the two gargoyles. Will the bosses get harder or is this it?


Those are among the easier bosses. Gaping dragon is predictable, hydra doesn't do much, quelaag can be tricky if you are alone and melee, taurus is supposed to be easy first boss. Hydra is just a miniboss as well. Also everything will get a lot harder on higher difficulty levels. Just new game + alone will double enemies hp and triple their damage and aggresiveness, getting through new game + + + will kick most gamers butts.


I guess quelagg was just easy for me because + Show Spoiler +
I found I got a black knight shield somewhere (I assume as a drop from a black knight). I was just disappointed that she was a 1-trick pony with her fire. If you get a shield with 95% fire resistance, it's really a joke :/.


The gaping dragon was similar. + Show Spoiler +
All you have to do is wait until he slams his mouth in the ground, take a few swings, back up as he charges, and then take a few more swings.


Actually, I found that butterfly miniboss to be the hardest -_-. As a melee character, you can't hit her until she lands on the damn bridge. But she's throwing projectiles at you all the time she's not landed. I was able to beat her finally when I realized + Show Spoiler +
that being farther away doesn't make the projectiles any easier to dodge. Also, when she's landed, you can switch to 2-handed grip since she's not attacking you lol. Only use I found for that grip so far.
. It also would have been easier if I had figured out the whole kindling thing at that time :/.

Also, I got invaded for the first time last night in blighttown. I thought people pvping me would be really strong, but he was really weak. I just blocked a few times and backstabbed him and he died lol. He dropped a butchers knife and tons of souls. It was exciting ^_^.
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
August 30 2012 17:18 GMT
#780
That invasion was an npc. There are a few of them dotted around the place.

Don't worry, we'll be killing you soon enough.
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
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