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Rhayader
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania189 Posts
December 03 2012 18:58 GMT
#1601
They didn't change him to an archer, copyright restrictions (they can't modify the original content in any shape or form, they can only add new material).
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 03 2012 19:13 GMT
#1602
Lame. That's like the first thing I mod. Ah well. He's still probably better than Coran, but it's close.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Rhayader
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania189 Posts
December 03 2012 19:18 GMT
#1603
They're about the same power, combat wise. But Coran is much better overall, given that he also has access to thief abilities.
Makavw
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 19:30:52
December 03 2012 19:30 GMT
#1604
They managed to destroy the game, GOOD JOB.
The bugs were to be expected but what they did is complete and utter bullshit.
They reduced number of spawns all over the game *RAGE* As I was playing I noticed something is wrong and then i went to surf a bit and found out alot of people are complaning and raging at that change.

Where before you were attacked by a group of bandits/xvarts/wolves now you get attacked by one, gnoll fortress and xvart village have at least half the amount of mobs and the random encounters are easier as well. So pathetic move for damn new players
Rhayader
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania189 Posts
December 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#1605
That's the least problematic issue bro. Mods will fix that shit up in no time. But i doubt they can fix the horrendous new cinematics and the poor new npc's. I had high expectations for this EE, but it turned out to be more than a letdown. It still baffles the mind how they could make a MUCH worse product than the modded original. How hard can it be to put out a decent game when all u have to do is tinker with the original, which was near perfection.. ???
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
December 03 2012 19:51 GMT
#1606
Personally, I'm waiting for modders to fix this mod of a game so that it can be up to par with mods.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#1607
I have no idea what you people are talking about. BGEE is so superior to BGT it is not even funny.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
December 03 2012 19:57 GMT
#1608
Ok - I never played the original BGs as an evil character, so I'll give it a shot. So I'll definitely be getting Kaigan, Dorn, Edwin, and Viconia. Possibly one more, (I played BG2 more and liked having 2 arcane/divine each, though that's not as important in BG1). I may go with Safana or Coran for a ranged character

I decided to play a swashbuckler (which I will eventually take to BG2EE and dual to a mage). How should I distribute my thief and weapon skills? My first instincts tell me to completely ignore stealth/move silently/open locks and instead max detect traps and illusions. I'll dual wield some combination of longswords/shortswords/scimitar(katana in bg2), but don't really remember the items in BG1 at all. Any recommendations? Thanks for the help.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 20:04:54
December 03 2012 20:02 GMT
#1609
On December 04 2012 04:57 Sandster wrote:
Ok - I never played the original BGs as an evil character, so I'll give it a shot. So I'll definitely be getting Kaigan, Dorn, Edwin, and Viconia. Possibly one more, (I played BG2 more and liked having 2 arcane/divine each, though that's not as important in BG1). I may go with Safana or Coran for a ranged character

I decided to play a swashbuckler (which I will eventually take to BG2EE and dual to a mage). How should I distribute my thief and weapon skills? My first instincts tell me to completely ignore stealth/move silently/open locks and instead max detect traps and illusions. I'll dual wield some combination of longswords/shortswords/scimitar(katana in bg2), but don't really remember the items in BG1 at all. Any recommendations? Thanks for the help.


In my opinion, Shar'teel is the best thief in the game (Coran does more damage, but has bad trap skills), and she is evil, so you might want to consider giving traps/stealth to her and locks/illusions to charname. Just an idea

As for weapons, Drizzt scimitars are the best in the game, especially if you are not backstabbing (the quarterstaff +3 would be better for a backstabber). They have added some new weapons though, and I have not seen them all yet. You can get good shortswords quite easily, so they are always a good option too.

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I dont understand why there are so many fanboys defending this product. The lack of spawns is the icing on the cake. The developers are incompetent.
Rhayader
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania189 Posts
December 03 2012 20:05 GMT
#1610
Oh Archangel, please enlighten us simple folk on the greatness that is EE. Is it the brilliantly written new npc's? Maybe also the fact that Dorn is insanely OP while Rasaad is completely garbage? How about that new enhanced GUI, that looks worse than the classic one? Or how about that sublime comic book cinematic, where still picture Sarevok strangles the poor bhaalspawn, and we get to see a close up of his head popping like a cartoon balloon. I also loved the touch where they also removed dialog from the intro, along with the Nietzsche quote. And who cares if i encountered around 8-9 bugs during my first hour of play, it's most definitely money well spent.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 20:17:46
December 03 2012 20:12 GMT
#1611
On December 04 2012 05:02 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 04:57 Sandster wrote:
Ok - I never played the original BGs as an evil character, so I'll give it a shot. So I'll definitely be getting Kaigan, Dorn, Edwin, and Viconia. Possibly one more, (I played BG2 more and liked having 2 arcane/divine each, though that's not as important in BG1). I may go with Safana or Coran for a ranged character

I decided to play a swashbuckler (which I will eventually take to BG2EE and dual to a mage). How should I distribute my thief and weapon skills? My first instincts tell me to completely ignore stealth/move silently/open locks and instead max detect traps and illusions. I'll dual wield some combination of longswords/shortswords/scimitar(katana in bg2), but don't really remember the items in BG1 at all. Any recommendations? Thanks for the help.


In my opinion, Shar'teel is the best thief in the game (Coran does more damage, but has bad trap skills), and she is evil, so you might want to consider giving traps/stealth to her and locks/illusions to charname. Just an idea

As for weapons, Drizzt scimitars are the best in the game, especially if you are not backstabbing (the quarterstaff +3 would be better for a backstabber). They have added some new weapons though, and I have not seen them all yet. You can get good shortswords quite easily, so they are always a good option too.

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I dont understand why there are so many fanboys defending this product. The lack of spawns is the icing on the cake. The developers are incompetent.


Wait I thought Shar'teel is a fighter? Either way I'm not attached to the 6th slot; I can definitely finish the game with 5 party members (hell, 4 are more than enough even without knowing the game too well, given how strong Kaigan/Dorn, Edwin, and Viconia are).

And yeah I have to dual wield something since Swashbucklers don't get any backstab multipliers.

I don't know how buggy the game is, I just hope they apply fixes within a reasonable amount of time.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
December 03 2012 20:19 GMT
#1612
Shar'teel is a human fighter with 17 dexterity, so she can be dualled to thief at any point. She is the only npc thief in the game that can get up to mastery in a weapon type (probably longswords for her), and she has 18/51 strength which is more than any other thief npc can get.

If you are only running one thief you want 100 in find traps, and the remainder in locks.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 20:45:04
December 03 2012 20:42 GMT
#1613
Ah, thanks

By the way - has anyone legitimately killed Drizzt by directly engaging him and actually withstanding his damage? It would be easy in BG2 due to mage protections, Lower Resistance, and Greater Malison, but BG1 is a different story...
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
December 03 2012 21:23 GMT
#1614
Yes, I have killed him a few times already. My solo character chunked him quite swiftly He does not have a great deal of hit points (about 90), but he has a very strong AC. Just apply buffs that boost your thaco and land a few surprise attacks (you have better thaco when attacking from invisible). Drizzt has a good thaco so he will land 95% of his attacks, he attacks at least 2.5 times per round and he hits hard. AC is useless against him so just stack hit points, and he cannot hit you while invisible anyway.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 21:41:15
December 03 2012 21:40 GMT
#1615
Hmm, guys, is there any quick way to restore reputation ? I kinda messed up a little bit hahaha.... (i had killed like... more than thirty guards, lot of commoners + almost a dozen of random people with names). Viconia isn't happy yet with my group, so i am going back to good and kick her :o
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
December 03 2012 21:43 GMT
#1616
Donate gold to a church. Here's the breakdown by gold needed depending on your reputation:

http://www.playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur's_Gate:_Donation_Guide
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
December 03 2012 21:45 GMT
#1617
On December 04 2012 06:43 Sandster wrote:
Donate gold to a church. Here's the breakdown by gold needed depending on your reputation:

http://www.playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur's_Gate:_Donation_Guide



Thank you man, that's exactly the kind of chart i needed.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
December 03 2012 21:49 GMT
#1618
On a side note the easiest way to get 20 rep is to pick up Viconia for the -2 rep, bump your rep to 18 via church donations, then kick Viconia out to get 20 rep.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 03 2012 23:00 GMT
#1619
On December 04 2012 05:05 Rhayader wrote:
Oh Archangel, please enlighten us simple folk on the greatness that is EE. Is it the brilliantly written new npc's? Maybe also the fact that Dorn is insanely OP while Rasaad is completely garbage? How about that new enhanced GUI, that looks worse than the classic one? Or how about that sublime comic book cinematic, where still picture Sarevok strangles the poor bhaalspawn, and we get to see a close up of his head popping like a cartoon balloon. I also loved the touch where they also removed dialog from the intro, along with the Nietzsche quote. And who cares if i encountered around 8-9 bugs during my first hour of play, it's most definitely money well spent.

They are better then most vanilla ones. Dorn is not OP, not any more then Minsc or Edwin. Rasaad is garbage because monks are garbage at low level. Garrick is also garbage. Yes there are OP and garbage characters in BG1, what of it?
New UI looks better, I don't know what you are smoking. As for new cinematics that is matter of personal preference, I don't mind it. In my opinion old animation was bad even when the game was out originally (well not the presentation but the substance). Dialogue was spoilerish, I was glad it was removed.
I encountered only druid shapeshifter AC bug (resolved by quicksave->quickload; takes about 1s), and not being able to scroll with mouse wheel my guys inventory in buy/sell screen. Also I got extra icon on UI that also says Rest. No important bug for me. I didn't try MP, I hear that one is pretty buggy. But since MP wasn't good in vanilla I don't expect much from it anyways. And they promised it will be working eventually, which is more then vanilla+mods can ever promise.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 03 2012 23:47 GMT
#1620
Haha, I just summoned a Pit Fiend with Neera during the fight against Greywolf :D
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