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Ektor Baboden
Profile Joined May 2012
68 Posts
December 02 2012 10:05 GMT
#1561
I'm not sure which mods they implemented in the game. Last time I played through BG2, I had to mod it quite a bit to have a good playing experience (I'd rather stick to pen and paper rules as much as possible).

How good is their vanilla implementation? Is there a game guide that lists their ruleset? (Skills, level progression, etc.)

If it's not too buggy I might get this... I haven't played BG1 in a while and my original box is probably lost in another content. Plus, I never played Tales of the Sword Coast.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 02 2012 10:34 GMT
#1562
On December 02 2012 11:40 EMIYA wrote:
are there some classes that are just universally bad to pick? I have a human crusader, and he has armor and a 2H sword, yet right after the tutorial i get 1-shotted by a black bear one minute later, haha. I didn't neglect the con or str, either.


Getting into melee at low level in an AD&D game is basically submitting the character's health/life to the roll of the dice. Even with pretty good stats, you'll get hit at least 2-3 times per 20 attacks, so in other words, you'll get hit a lot.

There are no universally bad classes, but it's worth noting that AD&D doesn't really have the modern day "tank" concept. Instead of thinking of your Paladin as a tank, think of it as a hard carry in MOBA games. You want to keep him out of the harms way as much as you can until you can stack a couple of levels of experience and good items on it, while using other characters' range attack to farm early on.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 10:41:38
December 02 2012 10:40 GMT
#1563
Shapeshifter Druid is pretty horrible. Don't know if he has been buffed in BGEE but in vanilla it was probably the worst possible class/kit to pick because he doesn't receive the bonuses he's supposed to. If you know what you're doing any class is playable though.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
CraZyWayne
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany357 Posts
December 02 2012 10:53 GMT
#1564
On December 02 2012 19:05 Ektor Baboden wrote:
I'm not sure which mods they implemented in the game. Last time I played through BG2, I had to mod it quite a bit to have a good playing experience (I'd rather stick to pen and paper rules as much as possible).

How good is their vanilla implementation? Is there a game guide that lists their ruleset? (Skills, level progression, etc.)

If it's not too buggy I might get this... I haven't played BG1 in a while and my original box is probably lost in another content. Plus, I never played Tales of the Sword Coast.


Rulesets:

http://playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur's_Gate:_Races_and_Stats
http://playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur's_Gate:_Classes_and_Kits
http://playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur's_Gate:_Progression_Charts
"tahts halo. dont worry"
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 11:33:42
December 02 2012 11:30 GMT
#1565
Lol, low level ADnD is rough. Got my fighter killed by the first wolf after I got of candlekeep XD. Should probably have used a potion or something but I sure as hell didn't expect that ^^

Anyway, I ran into a crash pretty early when I tried to rightclick one of the back markers on the map, what is that supposed to do, is it like a fast travel or something?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 02 2012 12:08 GMT
#1566
On December 02 2012 19:40 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Shapeshifter Druid is pretty horrible. Don't know if he has been buffed in BGEE but in vanilla it was probably the worst possible class/kit to pick because he doesn't receive the bonuses he's supposed to. If you know what you're doing any class is playable though.

I play one and he is awesome. Does 10+ damage easily per hit, has 2 attacks and good armor.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 12:15:57
December 02 2012 12:11 GMT
#1567
So he's been buffed for sure. Vanilla was 1d6 damage and armorless, not to mention bugged sometimes.

Wow, from what I've read shapeshifter even seems borderline OP in BGEE in the beginning.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
December 02 2012 12:34 GMT
#1568
On December 02 2012 20:30 Tobberoth wrote:
Lol, low level ADnD is rough. Got my fighter killed by the first wolf after I got of candlekeep XD. Should probably have used a potion or something but I sure as hell didn't expect that ^^

Anyway, I ran into a crash pretty early when I tried to rightclick one of the back markers on the map, what is that supposed to do, is it like a fast travel or something?

you fast-travel on the world map with left clicks.

rightclicks on the world map had no purpose in the original.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 02 2012 12:38 GMT
#1569
On December 02 2012 21:11 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
So he's been buffed for sure. Vanilla was 1d6 damage and armorless, not to mention bugged sometimes.

Wow, from what I've read shapeshifter even seems borderline OP in BGEE in the beginning.

He still does 1d6 but his 19 strength gives +7 bonus to that :D
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 02 2012 12:43 GMT
#1570
On December 02 2012 21:34 snow2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 20:30 Tobberoth wrote:
Lol, low level ADnD is rough. Got my fighter killed by the first wolf after I got of candlekeep XD. Should probably have used a potion or something but I sure as hell didn't expect that ^^

Anyway, I ran into a crash pretty early when I tried to rightclick one of the back markers on the map, what is that supposed to do, is it like a fast travel or something?

you fast-travel on the world map with left clicks.

rightclicks on the world map had no purpose in the original.

Didn't mean the world map, but the local maps, there's black markers on "places of importance".
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
December 02 2012 14:02 GMT
#1571
Since i've bought everything for Bg when it hit the shops, this is no different. And im loving it. Just hit the City of BG and im already missing the nature side. Luckily Kivan agrees with me.
월요 날 재미있
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
December 02 2012 14:11 GMT
#1572
All about the Avenger


chromatic orb chance to petrify!!!!!!!!!
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
December 02 2012 14:47 GMT
#1573
I find hard to play the game, due to the age and graphics (dunno why, i can perfectly play other old games, like UFO), but it just gave me what i needed. New RPGs suck balls. No freedom, no exploration, no permadeath, no real choice, not real RPG feeling.

Hope i get hook up, but i am just playing 30 minutes 1 hour and i have to drop it because of the UI and graphics ;p
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4404 Posts
December 02 2012 16:07 GMT
#1574
On December 02 2012 23:47 Godwrath wrote:
I find hard to play the game, due to the age and graphics (dunno why, i can perfectly play other old games, like UFO), but it just gave me what i needed. New RPGs suck balls. No freedom, no exploration, no permadeath, no real choice, not real RPG feeling.

Hope i get hook up, but i am just playing 30 minutes 1 hour and i have to drop it because of the UI and graphics ;p

Well this is the problem nowdays.Developers spend so much time creating the graphics they don't have time to make a huge game world and a long game.I completed Dragon Age 1 a year or so back and it was a great game but it was no baldurs gate.DA is way more linear.

Anyway i just gave the constitution libram to Kagain so he has 21 constitution now.80 HP at level 5 i think it is, totally ridiculous! Theres a hidden ankheg armour in Nashkell, bottom left of the screen in a paddock.I equipped that on Dorn as i was unable to get the smith in Beregost to make me some up, i think maybe because my reputation is only 6.

Current Party : all around level 5-6 now
PC - swashbuckler rogue dual wielding daggers
kagain
dorn - still running around 45% of party kills for chapter
neera - mages finally starting to become useful, have fireball now.Horror is coming in handy.
viconia
montaron - He has been good but i am getting rid of him soon.Tiax and eldoth are both possibilities.

Next time :
PC - Bard (Blade)
Xan
Kivan
Jaheira>Feldorn
Branwen>Yeslick
Rasheed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
December 02 2012 16:19 GMT
#1575
On December 02 2012 21:38 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 21:11 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
So he's been buffed for sure. Vanilla was 1d6 damage and armorless, not to mention bugged sometimes.

Wow, from what I've read shapeshifter even seems borderline OP in BGEE in the beginning.

He still does 1d6 but his 19 strength gives +7 bonus to that :D


Shapeshifter has never been balanced, too good in BG1 (with Tutu), too weak in BG2. They said on their forums that they were eventually going to balance it but with the crap ton of bugs they have to fix before, probably not going to happen any time soon
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
December 02 2012 18:38 GMT
#1576
80 hp isnt bad. My level 7 beserker has 105 hp unbuffed Pretty sure he could solo Sarevok at this point, and I have not reached BG yet.
esKq
Profile Joined April 2010
France134 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 19:03:45
December 02 2012 19:02 GMT
#1577
On December 03 2012 01:07 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
dorn - still running around 45% of party kills for chapter


How do you manage that ? My PC is always doing more than 60% of the party kills no matter the playthrough.

Btw I saw a lot of people running two weapon style with classes differents than fighter, is not vastly inferior to say a kensay/berserker doing the same thing ?
IdrA : "I don't play Terran coz I have self respect"
esKq
Profile Joined April 2010
France134 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 19:02:34
December 02 2012 19:02 GMT
#1578
double post sorry
IdrA : "I don't play Terran coz I have self respect"
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 02 2012 19:05 GMT
#1579
Sooo, anyone got hit by lightning yet? (and I don't mean the spell).
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
December 02 2012 19:23 GMT
#1580
On December 03 2012 04:05 -Archangel- wrote:
Sooo, anyone got hit by lightning yet? (and I don't mean the spell).


Yep. Did you kill the fishermen north of the friendly arm inn? They are part of a feud between Talos (God of Lightning) and a goddess of water. When you annoy Talos he remembers.
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