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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 01 2012 00:35 GMT
#1541
On December 01 2012 05:42 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Somehow I never liked minsc


Haha, and I thought I was the only one. Minsc/Jaheira were always dump asap material for me.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4404 Posts
December 01 2012 01:52 GMT
#1542
How do you recruit dorn? i told him to take a hike when he asked me to get him a drink, did i ruin my chances of recruiting him? I want to switch him with branwen since i am running an evil party this runthrough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
December 01 2012 02:29 GMT
#1543
On December 01 2012 10:52 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
How do you recruit dorn? i told him to take a hike when he asked me to get him a drink, did i ruin my chances of recruiting him? I want to switch him with branwen since i am running an evil party this runthrough.

+ Show Spoiler +
You'll encounter some bandits that'll try to rob you (can't remember where) and he'll show up during the conversation, recently fled from prison to claim revenge on them who caused it/didn't help him and you can side with him.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 01 2012 05:56 GMT
#1544
On December 01 2012 08:36 marconi wrote:
Anyone know can u export your BG:EE char to BG2 ?


Gamefaqs suggests that you can.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
December 01 2012 06:08 GMT
#1545
Can't wait for BG2:EE already
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 01 2012 06:28 GMT
#1546
When I played BG1, summoned monsters were overpowered as all hell. It was pretty much summon, then let your guys (almost all using ranged weapons) rip monsters up. Is this still true or does the game contain the BG2 nerfs? I'm probably getting this game again eventually but kinda busy until January.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4404 Posts
December 01 2012 07:30 GMT
#1547
On December 01 2012 15:28 andrewlt wrote:
When I played BG1, summoned monsters were overpowered as all hell. It was pretty much summon, then let your guys (almost all using ranged weapons) rip monsters up. Is this still true or does the game contain the BG2 nerfs? I'm probably getting this game again eventually but kinda busy until January.

Pretty sure the BG2 monster summoning rules are now in play.Good idea waiting another month a few of the bugs should have been ironed out by then.Apparently multiplayer is completely non functional at this stage, i have only had one crash though on single and i've put in maybe 4 hours gameplay so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 01 2012 11:08 GMT
#1548
MP is not nonfunctional, there are problems but there are workarounds
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 01 2012 21:19 GMT
#1549
I just found an irritating bug in BGEE. I play a werewolf druid and it looks like each time I shift my armor class becomes greater and greater and my armor class in human form also becomes greater lol. It seems reloading a save resets it.
drift0ut
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United Kingdom691 Posts
December 01 2012 21:29 GMT
#1550
mine has crashed twice before i can make it to the first inn
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 01:05:17
December 02 2012 00:56 GMT
#1551
This is cheesy as hell, but if you want to make an overpowered character...

Roll a neutral good half-orc beserker. Stats of 19 / 18 / 19 / 1 / 18 / x. Proficiencies in scimitars and two weapon fighting.

When the game starts, buy the ninja-to and wazik(sp?) sword from the vendor. Take the quest from the mage to get the ID scroll and complete it. Activate Rage skill and kill the mage for 2600 xp (level 2).

Go upstairs and loot the chests. Bash (attack) the locked one in the room with the nobleman. A Watcher (guard) will come and accuse you of stealing. Swear at him to initiate the fight (you should still be enraged). Kill him and equip his armour and helmet.

Find the vendor (he will have moved) and dump everything you are carrying at his feet. Buy 20 bolts and go complete all of the noobie quests. On your way around town, kill every Watcher you see - Except the one in the Jail/barracks (really, dont kill this one yet). When in the infirmary, be sure to be seen when looting the chest, so that another watcher spawns for you to kill. Dont forget to kill the two watchers by the main gate. Dump everything that you loot at the feet of the vendor.

You should be around level 3 now, put the proficiency point in scimitars.

Go into the tutorial building where you get to control a party to fight gibberlings. One of the npcs have a healing potion and a haste potion. Have your character drink both of these while the paladin heals you with lay on hands. Go back to the Jail. There are four locked chests, make sure that the Watcher sees you as you loot each. Each time two watchers will be summoned for you to kill. Kill the final watcher and go back to the vendor.

You should have a pile of items on the floor at the vendor. Sell them in batches. For example, sell 12 suits of platemail at the same time to get maximum value. You should of ended up with about 6700 xp and about 5500 gold.

Leave Candlekeep. Kick Imoen Head to the FAI and buy the buckler with +1 con. You can equip this when moving between zones, as it will take you to 20 con and giv you regeneration. Get the potion of invis from the upper floors of the FAI and from the manor house in beregost (I think thats where I got them, you also need to keep the haste potion and the cloud giant strength). Head to Nashkel and grab the ankheg plate mail from the field. Go solo the Nashkel mines and get the wazik sword +1 out the other end.

Head to the lighthouse to get the +1 con tome. if you are not willing to reload you need to get a protection from petri buff (grab edwin for it or w/e). If you are not level 6 yet then go north of the FAI and do the ankheg quest etc.

At level 6, head to Drizzt. Buff yourself with potions and rage and attack him. Use the invis potions while waiting for your attack/round timer to reset to get free attacks on him. Loot your new awesome scimitars. Go recruit your level 6 party.

----

This is a boring way to play as it trivialises the game. But It does get you a super character in about an hour.
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
December 02 2012 02:40 GMT
#1552
are there some classes that are just universally bad to pick? I have a human crusader, and he has armor and a 2H sword, yet right after the tutorial i get 1-shotted by a black bear one minute later, haha. I didn't neglect the con or str, either.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 02 2012 03:37 GMT
#1553
On December 02 2012 11:40 EMIYA wrote:
are there some classes that are just universally bad to pick? I have a human crusader, and he has armor and a 2H sword, yet right after the tutorial i get 1-shotted by a black bear one minute later, haha. I didn't neglect the con or str, either.


Bears are dangerous. And this is important. AC is a binary defense. HP is only semi-binary. Let me explain what I mean.

AC does nothing to affect the amount of damage you're going to take if you take it. Your AC is checked to determine whether or not you'll be hit (technically it's the other way 'round; does his roll hit your AC?). If you are, then you take damage determined by his weapon, strength and other bonuses. If you aren't, then you take no damage and continue as normal. HP is a semi-binary defense. It's not the same as AC, but having low HP doesn't affect the way you act. If you have 0 HP, you're dead. If you have 1, you're alive and have full combat effectiveness. In other games - Dragon Age, I believe, and most non-D20-based RPGs, your defense metric, whatever its called, acts as some form of damage resistance, reducing the amount you take rather than checking if you take it.

At low levels, it's quite likely that your AC isn't high enough to overcome your relatively low HP. A single unlucky round will lead to death. What sort of armor are you rocking, and are you aware that lower is better when it comes to your armor? Unintuitive but true. Where are your proficiencies, and do you have a shield?

As for the class... Do you mean a Cavalier? Cavaliers are fine in BG1 and possibly the best class in the second game (though maybe less so in the expansion). The lack of ranged weapons is a major downside, true, but the pile of bonuses you get is worth it. And you can always use your Cavalier to get rid of your throwing daggers and axes productively.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
December 02 2012 03:59 GMT
#1554
Because of how characters gain hp in this edition of D&D (not sure whether a later version changed it), low level combat is very luck-based. Level 1 characters especially have almost non-existent hp. The rules aren't really well designed in this regard.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 02 2012 04:09 GMT
#1555
It doesn't change at all in 3.x. It seemed to in 4, but 4e was pretty damned dumb IMO. The rules are intended to simulate (IMO) the whole epic journey thing. Humble origins turning to godlike power, that stuff. So provided you agree with the intent, they work really well, but if you don't then you probably won't like them.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 02 2012 05:39 GMT
#1556
So how many of you would recommend actually getting this?
Everyone needs a nemesis.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4404 Posts
December 02 2012 06:33 GMT
#1557
Dorn is a little overpowered in my opinion.Guy can carry like 5 Ankheg shells with his 19 STR.
Hits like a truck, im up to cloakwood now and he is getting around 50% of the kills in my 6 man group.

PC - swashbuckler rogue
Montaron
Viconia
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Kagain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 06:44:42
December 02 2012 06:44 GMT
#1558
baldurs gate 1 is very low level for a long time, so the combat is often "oh i got oneshot".

low lvl combat in D&D is like this, its just that the other DnD games have more levels in them, so you leave those binary levels faster.






i personally will not buy this, im just not a huge fan of BG1.
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
December 02 2012 09:24 GMT
#1559
Playing with the hardest difficulty right now and this "one shot" thing is even worse when enemies deals x2 damage! Even Khalid often almost die to a single hit from an Hobgoblin...
On the other hand, game just felt way too easy without SCS, hope it's realeased soon
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
December 02 2012 09:26 GMT
#1560
For some reason, my Dorn barely has any health. His constitution is 14 and he only gains 1 hp per level up
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