EPTNFL 2012 Season - Page 177
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Damiani
United States514 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10342 Posts
On December 12 2012 12:42 DannyJ wrote: Eli is going to go idiot savant mode again and power the giants back to a Patriots Giants superbowl re-rematch. Pretty much the reason I don't worry about them. The can stink up any joint, but once they barely slip into the playoffs, hold on to your fucking thermal leggings. This year is more interesting because Washington has the distinct scent of a team that could steal that division. | ||
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Wolfswood
United States349 Posts
On December 12 2012 12:36 Akamu wrote: It blows my mind how many not-smart people there are out there still going on about that play. Now personally i wouldnt mind if the niners win out as long as Seattle falls to the number 6 spot. To see the packers roflstomp the seahawks in the playoffs (which they will only make because of the fail mary play)((how fucked up is that?!)) will be hilarious. Moral of the story! NFC is where it's at. Hopefully the skins can win the east! Cuz i would love to see me some RG3 in the post season. As long as he is full speed with a healthy knee. and as a bonus! NFC playoff standings* Here's an interesting article on how much the fail mary is effecting the playoff picture in the NFC. pretty fucking cray. Replacement refs will most likely have a stain on who makes the superbowl this year. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/50557/nfc-playoff-standings-week-14 Ignoring the fact that who really had possession was unclear and it was impossible to call without pissing off one side or the other, it was ONE PLAY. One play does not determine the outcome of a game, even if its the very last one. So yeah, sure, the replacement refs fucking up is the reason the Seahawks are going to the playoffs. Not their other seven wins, five of which came against teams that currently have winning records. Not their elite rushing attack and defense. Not their rookie quarterback, who has been as efficient as almost anyone in the league over the last two months. Its all because of those damn replacement refs. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff OMG THEIR SO BAD | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On December 12 2012 12:36 Akamu wrote: I think everyone can agree the falcons are going to be the worst #1 seed in the history of the game. They just arn't good. They've had teams roll over and die on them all year long. A win's a win but whoever gets to play them will be happy about it. Let's wait to see what they do against the Giants this week before writing the Falcons out of the playoffs. They certainly aren't anywhere near perfect, but they have beaten every team they've played this year. The NFL has pretty good parity, and anything can happen in any game. The Falcons may not put up gaudy stats and blow their opponents out, but they do put themselves in positions to win and capitalize well. At the very least they haven't rolled over and died for anyone, unlike every other team in the NFC this year (ok they did kind of mail in it last week against the Panthers, but made something of a comeback at least). | ||
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Wolfswood
United States349 Posts
On December 12 2012 14:03 ShadowDrgn wrote: *every other team in the NFC besides SeattleLet's wait to see what they do against the Giants this week before writing the Falcons out of the playoffs. They certainly aren't anywhere near perfect, but they have beaten every team they've played this year. The NFL has pretty good parity, and anything can happen in any game. The Falcons may not put up gaudy stats and blow their opponents out, but they do put themselves in positions to win and capitalize well. At the very least they haven't rolled over and died for anyone, unlike every other team in the NFC this year (ok they did kind of mail in it last week against the Panthers, but made something of a comeback at least). | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On December 12 2012 14:26 ShadowDrgn wrote: Fair enough, Seattle doesn't get nearly enough credit. Does on these forums. I'd stake my entire life savings that Eli doesn't bring the Giants to the Superbowl this year. Any takers? (Die-hard Pats fan here) | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On December 12 2012 14:32 Zdrastochye wrote: Does on these forums. I'd stake my entire life savings that Eli doesn't bring the Giants to the Superbowl this year. Any takers? (Die-hard Pats fan here) Versus what? Depends on the risk. | ||
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Akamu
United States309 Posts
On December 12 2012 13:55 Wolfswood wrote: It blows my mind how many not-smart people there are out there still going on about that play. Ignoring the fact that who really had possession was unclear and it was impossible to call without pissing off one side or the other, it was ONE PLAY. One play does not determine the outcome of a game, even if its the very last one. So yeah, sure, the replacement refs fucking up is the reason the Seahawks are going to the playoffs. Not their other seven wins, five of which came against teams that currently have winning records. Not their elite rushing attack and defense. Not their rookie quarterback, who has been as efficient as almost anyone in the league over the last two months. Its all because of those damn replacement refs. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff OMG THEIR SO BAD Sigh. Your arguement is ridiculous. Football, as espn so often loves to tell us, is a game of inches. Things and games are frequently decided by a defining moment or a single play. The catch, the immaculate reception, ect ect. All end of the game defining moments. Those games are remebered because of those plays. And if the seahawks make the playoffs over someone else. Because of a one win advantage due to the fail Mary that's all that will be remebered when the season ends. It's gonna be all over espn. Their season will be defined by that one play. Whether you think it was the right call or wrong call it doesn't matter. But what does matter is there will be a lot of people who see it as the wrong call. But most importantly, if they get in by 1 game there will be 1 or maybe even 2 teams that will look back at that play and see that after all their hard work, after all the sweat and tears and injuries that they will be going home instead of going into the playoffs not because of any fault of their own but because some replacements refs fucked up. So no. Right now the seahawks' other 7 wins don't matter. Nothing about them matters. Not willson not Tate not Lynch. Not while they are only one game ahead of everyone else for the wildcard. When they are two games up it instantly becomes about those guys. Because you can say with a straight face that that play no longer matters. Same thing if they don't make it. You can praise Willsons rookie year and how bright the future looks. But as it is right now. That one win margin is tainted. There is no escaping the * if that's how they get in. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On December 12 2012 16:26 Akamu wrote: Sigh. Your arguement is ridiculous. Football, as espn so often loves to tell us, is a game of inches. Things and games are frequently decided by a defining moment or a single play. The catch, the immaculate reception, ect ect. All end of the game defining moments. Those games are remebered because of those plays. And if the seahawks make the playoffs over someone else. Because of a one win advantage due to the fail Mary that's all that will be remebered when the season ends. It's gonna be all over espn. Their season will be defined by that one play. Whether you think it was the right call or wrong call it doesn't matter. But what does matter is there will be a lot of people who see it as the wrong call. But most importantly, if they get in by 1 game there will be 1 or maybe even 2 teams that will look back at that play and see that after all their hard work, after all the sweat and tears and injuries that they will be going home instead of going into the playoffs not because of any fault of their own but because some replacements refs fucked up. So no. Right now the seahawks' other 7 wins don't matter. Nothing about them matters. Not willson not Tate not Lynch. Not while they are only one game ahead of everyone else for the wildcard. When they are two games up it instantly becomes about those guys. Because you can say with a straight face that that play no longer matters. Same thing if they don't make it. You can praise Willsons rookie year and how bright the future looks. But as it is right now. That one win margin is tainted. There is no escaping the * if that's how they get in. Bolded the part that is flat out wrong. Blame the Seahawks' success (if they get in by 1 game) on that call all you want (and for the record I think it wasn't a touchdown), but any team that doesn't make the playoffs because they get edged out by the Seahawks only has themselves to blame, unless it's the Packers and they miss it by 1 game. Replacement refs screwed up one call, in one game, that changed the outcome of that one game. The Packers still could have won that game if they had played better, and other teams could have edged out the Seahawks by one or more games if they had played better and won more games. It most definitely is their fault if a team doesn't make the playoffs, regardless of what happened in a Seahawks/Packers game 3 months ago. Get a reality check. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Saeglopur
Canada177 Posts
On December 12 2012 16:26 Akamu wrote: Their season will be defined by that one play. Whether you think it was the right call or wrong call it doesn't matter. But what does matter is there will be a lot of people who see it as the wrong call. But most importantly, if they get in by 1 game there will be 1 or maybe even 2 teams that will look back at that play and see that after all their hard work, after all the sweat and tears and injuries that they will be going home instead of going into the playoffs not because of any fault of their own but because some replacements refs fucked up. Uh, so you are saying if the Bears don't make the playoffs they will go off ranting about Seattle instead of reflecting on their own poor play down the stretch? Maybe you are one of those people who place blame upon others for your own failures but don't make that assumption about everyone. Think through what you type before you call someone else's "arguement" ridiculous. If you want to talk about controversial Superbowl champs in the past 10 years, how about spygate? Or the fact that the refs admitted to making a crucial game changing mistake during the Seahawk-Steeler Superbowl? Such events are not the first things that come to most people's minds when they reflect back on those championship teams. If Seattle does win out, they will be remembered for the magic of RW3, Lynch's career season, and a franchise defining defense. A controversial week 3 game won't be on people's minds down the road. | ||
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Akamu
United States309 Posts
On December 13 2012 02:21 Saeglopur wrote: Uh, so you are saying if the Bears don't make the playoffs they will go off ranting about Seattle instead of reflecting on their own poor play down the stretch? Maybe you are one of those people who place blame upon others for your own failures but don't make that assumption about everyone. Think through what you type before you call someone else's "arguement" ridiculous. If you want to talk about controversial Superbowl champs in the past 10 years, how about spygate? Or the fact that the refs admitted to making a crucial game changing mistake during the Seahawk-Steeler Superbowl? Such events are not the first things that come to most people's minds when they reflect back on those championship teams. If Seattle does win out, they will be remembered for the magic of RW3, Lynch's career season, and a franchise defining defense. A controversial week 3 game won't be on people's minds down the road. Yes it will. The difference between the plays you are talking about and the one that happened in Seattle comes down to one thing. Refs. The real professional refs made a mistake. That does happen. Seahawks fans still bitch about the missed call! But most of them lived with it. Even professionals are susceptible to human error. The real refs however didn't make that call. You know who did? You know who put his arms up to signal touchdown? Some guy who a few weeks before the season started was reffing seven on seven middle school games. Think about that for a second. Middle school. It's absurd. He was an amature who should never been out there in the first place. It's a major story line. Do you not remember the chaos at the beginning of the season? The almost 4 hour games? The fights every other play? The replacement refs meme's? Them trending on twitter? It was madness and the fail mary was the absolute worst possible nightmare for the nfl after they made the gamble to lock out the real refs. It's not a coincidence the real refs came back the very next week. My post ins't ridiculous. It's what's gonna happen if the Seahawks get in by 1 win. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Maybe the teams that won't make it because Seattle edges them out by 1 win will be classy and say they arn't thinking about it or that it didn't effect them. But you know sure as hell that the fans will have something to say. Can you imagine if a major market team like Dallas doesn't make it because Seattle was gifted that win? I wouldn't surprised if Mr. Jerry Jones himself said something about it. It's a major story line of this season. Unfortunately Seattle is forever tied to it. It was bound to happen to someone, it just happened to be them. But come that last week of the season you're gonna see that play all over espn again if Seattle is on the fragile 1 win edge. *accidentally put Cardinals instead of seahawks once | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On December 12 2012 13:55 Wolfswood wrote: It blows my mind how many not-smart people there are out there still going on about that play. Ignoring the fact that who really had possession was unclear and it was impossible to call without pissing off one side or the other, it was ONE PLAY. One play does not determine the outcome of a game, even if its the very last one. So yeah, sure, the replacement refs fucking up is the reason the Seahawks are going to the playoffs. Not their other seven wins, five of which came against teams that currently have winning records. Not their elite rushing attack and defense. Not their rookie quarterback, who has been as efficient as almost anyone in the league over the last two months. Its all because of those damn replacement refs. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff OMG THEIR SO BAD It was the game winning score, that one call did decide the game, and it was very clear who had possession. And yes the replacement refs did suck. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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Damiani
United States514 Posts
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
Gracon, Welker, D.Alexander, Randal Cobb, Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne. Only have 2 slots (got alfred morris AP and ray rice in the 2 RB and wr/rb slots lol) | ||
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Sermokala
United States14017 Posts
On December 13 2012 10:19 Ferrose wrote: And we had an entire discussion here about how Tate caught the ball and it was the right call. Even then, we have the catch on VIDEO and people still deny it. 2 people catching the ball at the same time totally is what happens when one guy catches the ball and then the other guy gets his hands on it right? God that discussion was so painful can we please not continue it anymore. Lets also not talk about the Rob parker "is RG3 black enough?" story. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On December 14 2012 06:43 Sermokala wrote: 2 people catching the ball at the same time totally is what happens when one guy catches the ball and then the other guy gets his hands on it right? God that discussion was so painful can we please not continue it anymore. Lets also not talk about the Rob parker "is RG3 black enough?" story. I guess you didn't read the part where someone posted the NFL rulebook stating the offense gets the ball in cases of simultaneous possession. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On December 14 2012 11:03 Ferrose wrote: I guess you didn't read the part where someone posted the NFL rulebook stating the offense gets the ball in cases of simultaneous possession. But it wasn't simultaneous. That being said, looking forward to the patriots blowing the 49ers out of the water. If the pats do that to the second best team in the nfl, what will they do to the forth or fifth best team? | ||
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