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SomniGiggles
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom214 Posts
June 10 2012 19:36 GMT
#581
WOOOOOOOOH! So deserved, so happy :D Hammy ham!
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
June 10 2012 19:37 GMT
#582
Jury points just came in..
Perez 10/10
Grosjean 10/10
Hamilton 11/10
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
June 10 2012 19:38 GMT
#583
I enjoyed that, love to see those three going toe to toe. I second Zere
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
June 10 2012 19:40 GMT
#584
Retarted strat by Ferrari...
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 19:43 GMT
#585
MSC can't buy luck in 2012. He could literally give his engineers his life savings and his car will break down.
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 10 2012 20:00 GMT
#586
Woop Lewis to dominate from here plz :D .
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
June 10 2012 20:02 GMT
#587
enjoyable race
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 10 2012 20:54 GMT
#588
I really do think if Vetell and Alonso came in, after the slow pit stop from Lewis like 1/2 laps after they would of been 1st / 2nd in that race, in the end they think they can make a 1 stopper work, so bad from both their teams. SO HAPPY FOR LEWIS THOUGH :D he deserved that i think and well im happy being a big fan :D

Also spare a thought for Schuiee ^_^ poor guy. 7 races, 7 diffo problems. OUCH.
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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
June 10 2012 22:17 GMT
#589
On June 11 2012 05:54 Pandemona wrote:
I really do think if Vetell and Alonso came in, after the slow pit stop from Lewis like 1/2 laps after they would of been 1st / 2nd in that race, in the end they think they can make a 1 stopper work, so bad from both their teams. SO HAPPY FOR LEWIS THOUGH :D he deserved that i think and well im happy being a big fan :D

Also spare a thought for Schuiee ^_^ poor guy. 7 races, 7 diffo problems. OUCH.


I think that if Ferrari had pitted they would have gotten 2nd for sure, Lewis had Alonso covered for out and out race pace on fresh tires.

But a really classic old school style race that came down to strategy and tire management, a good race and a great result!

[image loading]

Lewis for 2012 Driver's Champion!! :D
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 11 2012 04:43 GMT
#590
On June 11 2012 07:17 baldgye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 05:54 Pandemona wrote:
I really do think if Vetell and Alonso came in, after the slow pit stop from Lewis like 1/2 laps after they would of been 1st / 2nd in that race, in the end they think they can make a 1 stopper work, so bad from both their teams. SO HAPPY FOR LEWIS THOUGH :D he deserved that i think and well im happy being a big fan :D

Also spare a thought for Schuiee ^_^ poor guy. 7 races, 7 diffo problems. OUCH.


I think that if Ferrari had pitted they would have gotten 2nd for sure, Lewis had Alonso covered for out and out race pace on fresh tires.

But a really classic old school style race that came down to strategy and tire management, a good race and a great result!

[image loading]

Lewis for 2012 Driver's Champion!! :D

Except DRS made passing a breeze and the 2 stopper all the more feasible.

Classic old school race is going as fast as possible. Not tire management. That is almost pirelli exclusive.
A true old school race would be on bridgestones or goodyears, and would probably involve the likes of senna, prost, schumacher, mansell, hill, etc. These young guns are not old school.
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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
June 11 2012 16:26 GMT
#591
On June 11 2012 13:43 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 07:17 baldgye wrote:
On June 11 2012 05:54 Pandemona wrote:
I really do think if Vetell and Alonso came in, after the slow pit stop from Lewis like 1/2 laps after they would of been 1st / 2nd in that race, in the end they think they can make a 1 stopper work, so bad from both their teams. SO HAPPY FOR LEWIS THOUGH :D he deserved that i think and well im happy being a big fan :D

Also spare a thought for Schuiee ^_^ poor guy. 7 races, 7 diffo problems. OUCH.


I think that if Ferrari had pitted they would have gotten 2nd for sure, Lewis had Alonso covered for out and out race pace on fresh tires.

But a really classic old school style race that came down to strategy and tire management, a good race and a great result!

[image loading]

Lewis for 2012 Driver's Champion!! :D

Except DRS made passing a breeze and the 2 stopper all the more feasible.

Classic old school race is going as fast as possible. Not tire management. That is almost pirelli exclusive.
A true old school race would be on bridgestones or goodyears, and would probably involve the likes of senna, prost, schumacher, mansell, hill, etc. These young guns are not old school.


Not really... it's not a hard track to over-take on, and the only reason Lewis used his DRS to over-take was becasue there was no need not to.
And I mean old school in that it was won and based around pit-stops and tire management, when I started getting into F1 properly back in the mid/late 00's while there was over-taking people still had to work and manage there tires and alot of it came down to strategy.

Though, for DRS, I'm not sure it's needed at tracks like this where over-taking isn't an issue. I thought the point of DRS was to make over-taking more viable, not to make it easy. It would have been a more exciting race if Lewis actually had to fight a little instead he had DRS to cruse past two double DWC's
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-11 19:11:05
June 11 2012 19:09 GMT
#592
On June 12 2012 01:26 baldgye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 13:43 Release wrote:
On June 11 2012 07:17 baldgye wrote:
On June 11 2012 05:54 Pandemona wrote:
I really do think if Vetell and Alonso came in, after the slow pit stop from Lewis like 1/2 laps after they would of been 1st / 2nd in that race, in the end they think they can make a 1 stopper work, so bad from both their teams. SO HAPPY FOR LEWIS THOUGH :D he deserved that i think and well im happy being a big fan :D

Also spare a thought for Schuiee ^_^ poor guy. 7 races, 7 diffo problems. OUCH.


I think that if Ferrari had pitted they would have gotten 2nd for sure, Lewis had Alonso covered for out and out race pace on fresh tires.

But a really classic old school style race that came down to strategy and tire management, a good race and a great result!

[image loading]

Lewis for 2012 Driver's Champion!! :D

Except DRS made passing a breeze and the 2 stopper all the more feasible.

Classic old school race is going as fast as possible. Not tire management. That is almost pirelli exclusive.
A true old school race would be on bridgestones or goodyears, and would probably involve the likes of senna, prost, schumacher, mansell, hill, etc. These young guns are not old school.


Not really... it's not a hard track to over-take on, and the only reason Lewis used his DRS to over-take was becasue there was no need not to.
And I mean old school in that it was won and based around pit-stops and tire management, when I started getting into F1 properly back in the mid/late 00's while there was over-taking people still had to work and manage there tires and alot of it came down to strategy.

Though, for DRS, I'm not sure it's needed at tracks like this where over-taking isn't an issue. I thought the point of DRS was to make over-taking more viable, not to make it easy. It would have been a more exciting race if Lewis actually had to fight a little instead he had DRS to cruse past two double DWC's

Canada is not particularly easy to overtake. You can say that the back straight is easy, but the turbulent air in the old days made the turn in and braking for the hairpin rather difficult and you would be in the slipstream but not close enough to pass. There was a race (b/w 2001-2004 not sure which) b/w the schumi brothers and Ralf got probably 30 runs on his brother and simply could not overtake. Old school overtake (in this era) would be staying out a few laps longer, making those hotlaps, and leapfrogging in the pits, or coming in earlier and throwing a few hot laps straight after.

I got into f1 around the same time (early 2000s) but this is already into the modern era; they are on grooves after all. Back in the 90s and 80s when pilots risked life and limb was the true .
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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
June 13 2012 02:02 GMT
#593
On June 12 2012 04:09 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 01:26 baldgye wrote:
On June 11 2012 13:43 Release wrote:
On June 11 2012 07:17 baldgye wrote:
On June 11 2012 05:54 Pandemona wrote:
I really do think if Vetell and Alonso came in, after the slow pit stop from Lewis like 1/2 laps after they would of been 1st / 2nd in that race, in the end they think they can make a 1 stopper work, so bad from both their teams. SO HAPPY FOR LEWIS THOUGH :D he deserved that i think and well im happy being a big fan :D

Also spare a thought for Schuiee ^_^ poor guy. 7 races, 7 diffo problems. OUCH.


I think that if Ferrari had pitted they would have gotten 2nd for sure, Lewis had Alonso covered for out and out race pace on fresh tires.

But a really classic old school style race that came down to strategy and tire management, a good race and a great result!

[image loading]

Lewis for 2012 Driver's Champion!! :D

Except DRS made passing a breeze and the 2 stopper all the more feasible.

Classic old school race is going as fast as possible. Not tire management. That is almost pirelli exclusive.
A true old school race would be on bridgestones or goodyears, and would probably involve the likes of senna, prost, schumacher, mansell, hill, etc. These young guns are not old school.


Not really... it's not a hard track to over-take on, and the only reason Lewis used his DRS to over-take was becasue there was no need not to.
And I mean old school in that it was won and based around pit-stops and tire management, when I started getting into F1 properly back in the mid/late 00's while there was over-taking people still had to work and manage there tires and alot of it came down to strategy.

Though, for DRS, I'm not sure it's needed at tracks like this where over-taking isn't an issue. I thought the point of DRS was to make over-taking more viable, not to make it easy. It would have been a more exciting race if Lewis actually had to fight a little instead he had DRS to cruse past two double DWC's

Canada is not particularly easy to overtake. You can say that the back straight is easy, but the turbulent air in the old days made the turn in and braking for the hairpin rather difficult and you would be in the slipstream but not close enough to pass. There was a race (b/w 2001-2004 not sure which) b/w the schumi brothers and Ralf got probably 30 runs on his brother and simply could not overtake. Old school overtake (in this era) would be staying out a few laps longer, making those hotlaps, and leapfrogging in the pits, or coming in earlier and throwing a few hot laps straight after.

I got into f1 around the same time (early 2000s) but this is already into the modern era; they are on grooves after all. Back in the 90s and 80s when pilots risked life and limb was the true .


I have to disagree, I think that Canada is one of the easier tracks to over-take on... the DRS seemed to just make it a formality rather than making it 'easier'. But that's just me, maybe it would have been better to have the DRS on the S/F straight and give more of a reason to try into turn 1/2 instead of just breezing past on the back-straight.

But either way it was a good race just a shame that Valencia is next...
shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
June 15 2012 01:06 GMT
#594
Finally got to see the race! Even knowing the results and seeing Hamilton cross the line gave me goose bumps! Pretty happy he finally got a win this year! :D Even having a bad pitstop still gunned down for 1st!
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
June 22 2012 17:43 GMT
#595
P2 long stint race sim averages

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Grosjean 1:45.021
Massa 1:45.099
Raikkonen 1:45.206
Vettel 1:45.349
Maldonado 1:45.396
di Resta 1:45.399
Perez 1:45.444
Hulkenberg 1:45.529
Rosberg 1:45.668
Alonso 1:45.732
Petrov 1:45.787
Webber 1:45.859
Schumacher 1:45.899
Kovalainen 1:46.031
Senna 1:46.121
Button 1:46.209
Ricciardo 1:46.516
Vergne 1:47.669


What's going on here?
The interwebz cries over Macca's pace; I didn't watch it, did they have problems?
Also Caterham says their updates, particularly the front wing, are working brilliantly. Seeing Toro Rosso's horrific times ... could they actually race against them?
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 22 2012 17:49 GMT
#596
Mclaren had drive set up problems. Cant look to much into P2, cuz im sure there not the only ones. P3 before Qualfying should give us the readings we need. I still think Mclaren/RedBull will be pole (SHOCK HORROR)
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
June 22 2012 18:10 GMT
#597
Hamilton was trying something that didnt work, it will be changed for tomorrow. They were expecting to struggle here, Red Bull and Alonso for the win with perhaps Maldonado to go well again if he stays on the track. The sooner Valencia gets dropped the better.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
June 23 2012 18:59 GMT
#598
On June 23 2012 03:10 Aristodemus wrote:
Hamilton was trying something that didnt work, it will be changed for tomorrow. They were expecting to struggle here, Red Bull and Alonso for the win with perhaps Maldonado to go well again if he stays on the track. The sooner Valencia gets dropped the better.


agreed, its a horrible track that makes for dull races, but quali was pretty interesting and very close which was nice!

I really hope the tires and the grip are horrible tomorrow to help make for a better race than we have had in the past, I didn't get chance to see all the practice sessions but McLaren seemed faster than RB, so hopfuly that can pay off...

Also I'm super happy for Kovalinen, another awesome job done by him in quali!
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
June 24 2012 12:54 GMT
#599
McLaren Pitstop (C)2012
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 24 2012 12:55 GMT
#600
On June 24 2012 21:54 zere wrote:
McLaren Pitstop (C)2012


poor hamilton. :/
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