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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1992 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 14:16:56
May 27 2012 14:16 GMT
#541
He beat a world champion in a car you guys consider the fastest too, I tip my hat to him. Also, poor Vergne.

Edit: Pissing it down in Monaco now >.<
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1092 Posts
May 27 2012 14:18 GMT
#542
Shame the rain comes right as the race ended... Could have really made the race alot more interesting and might have given us something to watch
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
May 27 2012 14:43 GMT
#543
On May 27 2012 23:06 baldgye wrote:
I wonder how much this race will effect Lewis's contract for next season


Slim to nil.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
May 27 2012 14:44 GMT
#544
On May 27 2012 23:18 baldgye wrote:
Shame the rain comes right as the race ended... Could have really made the race alot more interesting and might have given us something to watch


With the race as tight as it was, the pit stops would have been chaotic. But in a good way =D
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
May 28 2012 05:24 GMT
#545
Schumacher another problem. Are you fucking kidding me? And after he whacked it on pole too.
☺
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 28 2012 07:48 GMT
#546
Well i can safetly say Lewis will not be signing another contract with Mclaren, cost him way to much this season, he could in effect be leading this pretty easily, with atleast 2 more 3rd place finishes he should of had. He will sign to replace Webber imo. Webber replacing Massa at Ferrari
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
May 28 2012 08:06 GMT
#547
On May 28 2012 16:48 Pandemona wrote:
Well i can safetly say Lewis will not be signing another contract with Mclaren, cost him way to much this season, he could in effect be leading this pretty easily, with atleast 2 more 3rd place finishes he should of had. He will sign to replace Webber imo. Webber replacing Massa at Ferrari

McLaren pit crew has been awful this season for him. However McLaren are one of the consistently fastest cars on the grid through the years, so he better consider that carefully too.

If Massa goes I doubt it'd be Webber as replacement, given that Perez is doing rather beautifully.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 28 2012 08:15 GMT
#548
Rumours through out this weekend have been that Webber has held talks with Ferrari or Ferrari with him. And yes Mclaren are a fast car but they have there problems since the 2 week testing break in Spain (2 last 2 races) and you can see Button has lost all his pace now and is getting in a bad moment. Pit stops cost Lewis 2 podiums in the last 2 races and now it does not look like anything will stop him unless he still manages to win the title, which is definatly still a possibility. 13 Points off the top spot!
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
May 28 2012 08:34 GMT
#549
It's so awesome and hilarious that he could suffer so many mistakes this season and still only be 13 points off. What a strange season this has been so far. Definitely still got a shot.

But as a Ferrari fan I don't want Webber. He's a good driver but the prospect of him joining the team doesn't excite me. I'm hoping he was just trying to place an order for the latest Ferrari special edition or something.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 28 2012 08:42 GMT
#550
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12479/7781957/Hamilton-calls-for-McLaren-upgrade
Also this backs up my theory xD

And yes, great races this year 6 races 6 different winners, quite easily see Lewis winning a race eventually too, Schumacher been unlucky (Cant see him winning one though) be interesting in Spa next is it?
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Maiden UK
Profile Joined November 2011
England61 Posts
May 28 2012 10:49 GMT
#551
On May 28 2012 16:48 Pandemona wrote:
Well i can safetly say Lewis will not be signing another contract with Mclaren, cost him way to much this season, he could in effect be leading this pretty easily, with atleast 2 more 3rd place finishes he should of had. He will sign to replace Webber imo. Webber replacing Massa at Ferrari


I can safely say that I am almost certain you are wrong. I say that because I really can't see Alonso allowing him to become his teammate again (regardless of what he says to the press, it's what he says to the team that we don't see) and the same goes for Vettel. Why would they want someone who is at least as good as them as their teammate when they are the number 1 driver in the team and have all the attention from the team? And more to the point, why would Lewis want to move into a team where he isn't the focus?

His only real choice would be to go down the grid to Lotus or Mercedes, and I really can't see why he would do that. Mclaren have made a lot of mistakes this year while he hasn't - the opposite of last year really, but I can't see that he really has any other options.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 28 2012 10:57 GMT
#552
It doesn't matter about being the sole focus of the team he wouldn't care about that as he would drive himself into that position. The likes of Vettel wouldn't have a say in any appointment like that, and well he is not and will not drive for Ferrari due to there car being weak. The only team he will go to is Red Bull and well if this season continues the way it has so far he will leave.
There is 1 team principal and 2 mini teams headed up by a race engineer specifically for each driver and they are the ones who set the directions for each driver which may be different to the other. It is the same in all teams, thus it doesn't make a difference who is lead driver in the sense of not being give then right equipment. The only thing that teams allow for is like in Alonos Massa situations we have seen is they allow Alonso pass Massa alot due to Alonso being quicker more and is higher up the scoring board. Vettel was allowed to go pass Webber last season on the same accord because he was chasing the championship and Webber wan't in as much contention
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Maiden UK
Profile Joined November 2011
England61 Posts
May 28 2012 16:23 GMT
#553
On May 28 2012 19:57 Pandemona wrote:
It doesn't matter about being the sole focus of the team he wouldn't care about that as he would drive himself into that position. The likes of Vettel wouldn't have a say in any appointment like that, and well he is not and will not drive for Ferrari due to there car being weak. The only team he will go to is Red Bull and well if this season continues the way it has so far he will leave.
There is 1 team principal and 2 mini teams headed up by a race engineer specifically for each driver and they are the ones who set the directions for each driver which may be different to the other. It is the same in all teams, thus it doesn't make a difference who is lead driver in the sense of not being give then right equipment. The only thing that teams allow for is like in Alonos Massa situations we have seen is they allow Alonso pass Massa alot due to Alonso being quicker more and is higher up the scoring board. Vettel was allowed to go pass Webber last season on the same accord because he was chasing the championship and Webber wan't in as much contention


And you think Vettel will allow someone like Lewis to come into his team and take over? If Vettel says to them 'If Lewis joins, I'm leaving' you think they will say fine? Vettel can influence who comes into the team. As for Ferrari's car being weak, who is leading the WDC?
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-28 17:07:11
May 28 2012 17:04 GMT
#554
I think its funny people seem to think that he would move to Red Bull or Ferrari, untill Alonso leaves Ferrari Lewis can't join that team, and untill Vettel leaves Red Bull he wont join them either.
He'll re-sign with McLaren but maybe not for aslong as he did before, and for alot more money.

They had good pace in Spain and managed the tires well, the only problem was the fact that McLaren fucked Lewis in quali and the fact that its a pretty poor track for over-taking (as we saw last year too). You can't really judge anything on this last weekend though, McLaren seemed to have good pace but the team let Lewis down again be it either poor comunication or the slow stop, it was a poor showing.
Button though is a driver that tends to swing massivly depending on how he feels with the car, he can have the fastest car on the track and still struggle if its not to his liking (something we saw with BraunGP), so I don't really think you could use him as a milestone, Lewis is better to judge a cars raw pace and going on his quali results they have a fast package.

I think that the person who has the most to loose this season is Martin Whitmarsh, I think that if these problems contiune and cost either Jenson or Lewis the drivers title and they fail to come at least 2nd in the constructors, he'll loose his job.
Under his managament they have had 3 very poor seasons, and currentaly with one of the faster cars out there the team, not the driver are letting them down as a whole.

And I think Webber is a good fit for Ferrari, he wont like being forever a #2 but at least he'll have a drive in a good car and in a good team, and he's shown that he's still fast so I think that he's there best bet, I dont think Perez would though becasue he's a young up and coming driver and having to play #2 to Alonso probally isn't something he'd want or be able to do.


Though I'd really love Paul to take Schuey's place at Merc, he's shown he's a fast and mature driver and he has alot of potential, I think him and Rosberg would make for a good team.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 29 2012 13:03 GMT
#555
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12479/7784777/Alonso-Hamilton-The-best-of-rivals

See It's only ever been banter between the two
FERRARI HERE U COME LEWISSS


i be trolling
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
May 30 2012 08:38 GMT
#556
Practice 1 - Fri 14:00 GMT (+00:00)
Practice 2 - Fri 18:00 GMT (+00:00)
Practice 3 - Sat 14:00 GMT (+00:00)
Qualifying - Sat 17:00 GMT (+00:00)
Race - Sun 18:00 GMT (+00:00)

My favorite race! Montreal - Canada! (Mainly my favorite due to sheer number of places to overtake and the time its on in England)

8th 9th 10th June
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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1092 Posts
May 30 2012 16:35 GMT
#557
On May 30 2012 17:38 Pandemona wrote:
Practice 1 - Fri 14:00 GMT (+00:00)
Practice 2 - Fri 18:00 GMT (+00:00)
Practice 3 - Sat 14:00 GMT (+00:00)
Qualifying - Sat 17:00 GMT (+00:00)
Race - Sun 18:00 GMT (+00:00)

My favorite race! Montreal - Canada! (Mainly my favorite due to sheer number of places to overtake and the time its on in England)

8th 9th 10th June


yeah its had some pretty epic races there, and its also my fav track to race on in the F1 callender
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 12:28:53
May 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#558
    Reported F1 Salaries *

    1. Fernando Alonso - €30 million

    2. Lewis Hamilton - €16 million

    = Jenson Button - €16 million

    4. Sebastian Vettel - €10 million

    = Mark Webber - €10 million

    = Felipe Massa - €10 million

    = Nico Rosberg - €10 million

    8. Michael Schumacher - €8 million

    9. Kimi Raikkonen - €5 million

    10. Heikki Kovalainen - €4 million

    11. Timo Glock - €3 million

    12. Kamui Kobayashi - €1 million

    = Romain Grosjean - €1 million

    14. Nico Hulkenberg - €500,000

    = Sergio Perez - €500,000

    = Vitaly Petrov - €500,000

    = Pedro de la Rosa - €500,000

    18. Jean-Eric Vergne - €400,000

    = Daniel Ricciardo - €400,000

    = Pastor Maldonado - €400,000

    21. Bruno Senna - €250,000

    = Nairan Karthikeyan - €250,000

    23. Paul di Resta - €200,000

    24. Charles Pic - €150,000


* Source: Business Book GP 2012

Source

Interesting. Redbull seem to be running an economical ship! Seems fair, doesn't include bonuses i don't think though? But fark me Alonso is raking it in. But most people should agree he is the best driver by a long way in Formula 1, but 30million $_$
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
May 31 2012 12:40 GMT
#559
I'd drive one for free if they'd let me
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1992 Posts
May 31 2012 13:03 GMT
#560
He brings more than that with his sponsorship so essentially he earns them money. Hamilton also earns a shitload through endorsements, I would wager more than Alonso in total. What do people think of the reported 2014 pre-contract Vettel has supposedly signed to drive for Ferrari? I think it will be fun for a year or maybe two but Vettel will be beaten and he will become erratic through frustration.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
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