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yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
February 08 2012 10:10 GMT
#141
Despite this gametype not being my cup of team I honestly might buy this game just based of the interviews day[9] did with Curt Schilling, Ken Rolston, RA Salvatore, and Todd McFarlane. Also the gameplay looks really fun.
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HuggyBear
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia377 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 10:30:24
February 08 2012 10:30 GMT
#142
Did they manage to fix the post-processing problems from the demo?
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
February 08 2012 10:48 GMT
#143
I missed most of the Day of Reckoning, does anyone know when did the RA Salvatore come to the stream so I can watch the VOD?

And if they talked at all about Salvatore previous works.
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
February 08 2012 10:54 GMT
#144
I didn't catch TotalBiscuit's stream. Can anyone sum up what he said about the game?
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TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
February 08 2012 10:58 GMT
#145
On February 08 2012 19:54 whatusername wrote:
I didn't catch TotalBiscuit's stream. Can anyone sum up what he said about the game?

its a 5 or 6 out of 10. that said its above average but nothing more...
combat system is fun but the game is way too easy. all characters/npcs are pretty much uninteresting and he did not get engaged with the story in the first 5 to 6 hours playing the game.
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Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
February 08 2012 11:03 GMT
#146
On February 08 2012 19:54 whatusername wrote:
I didn't catch TotalBiscuit's stream. Can anyone sum up what he said about the game?


Very good combat
Nice graphic style
Good crafting system

Bad and boring characters
Easy
Bad UI and inventory management
Some mechanics, like the crime system, work a bit weirdly
Boring side quests

Basically he had a hard time getting immersed in the universe due to the staleness of characters and side quests. He described it as the game communicates badly with the player.
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
February 08 2012 11:05 GMT
#147
Played about three hours of it. It was neat at first and the combat system looks awesome, but the game is kinda boring. I'll give it another shot tomorrow but I won't be holding my breath.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
February 08 2012 11:09 GMT
#148
I guess my fears were not unfounded. An action game masquerading as an RPG. I don't really know why I was so hopeful that Salvatore would flesh out an interesting world. He hasn't written anything good in a good long while. Plus, I knew the game would cater to the casual console gamers. Oh well.... another ship passes.
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Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 11:26:32
February 08 2012 11:19 GMT
#149
On February 08 2012 19:54 whatusername wrote:
I didn't catch TotalBiscuit's stream. Can anyone sum up what he said about the game?

The jist I got was that the gameplay itself was fun but the RP-portion wasn't satisfactory (and he was really big on immersion). Basically he freaked out (and killed people) every time the voice acting was quirky (intentional or not), didn't like the story, didn't like the characters/style of the game (esp. humour-wise) and let relatively minor stuff get in the way of enjoying the game.

The overall impression is that it's the total opposite of Skyrim - instead of an incredibly well polished, immersive and beautiful game with awful mechanics, it's a really fun, humourous, cute and unrefined RPG with some of the best combat and crafting systems seen so far.

Personally I found TB was much, much more nitpicky than he has been in other previews and it really detracted from the experience. He completely abandoned the main story because he didn't like one of the characters, only to then refuse basically every sidequest because the NPC's asked for quirky shit or were weird, and then went around finding other unrefined elements (NPC's saying nonsensical shiz, selling items they shouldn't or contradicting one another) rather than getting to know the actual systems/mechanics of the game (which ends up being much of the meat of any RPG and was an area where Skyrim was unsatisfying).

It might have been my bad timing as I only watched the first ~2.5hours of his stream, but he definitely had an interesting order of previewing things. I wish he had spent more time getting to know the story/meat of the game before beginning the RP-critique. It was hilarious but I wanted to get an understanding of what the actual game was like, but instead I watched a personality make fun of silly things for a couple hours until there were other options.

Edit: He also decided that the questing and sidequests were awful despite not spending a great deal of time with any particular faction (correct me if I'm wrong) and only staying in the early areas of the game, while saying that Oblivion's quests were amazing.

That's like saying that Dragon Age had bad quests because the intro segment is a little dull. Way too early to judge.
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Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
February 08 2012 11:24 GMT
#150
TB flips out when he had to destroy every grey manually. Too much of an character to judge the game from, watch another stream and make your impressions instead.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 08 2012 11:31 GMT
#151
TB was very strict to show that he wasn't bribed. This might be not intentional by him but that's how I see it. He's looks like this kind of a person. The points he raised are true, I'll need to see some more of the game to buy it, but I love the crafting system, one that actually makes sense.
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Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1470 Posts
February 08 2012 11:38 GMT
#152
Played about 5 hours of the game, while having day9/tobi1/soe open on laptop and I like it.

Thing about TB is, he spent a lot of time playing wow and TOR and those game have incredibly polished questing system and while this game is not boring, the sidequest system sadly sucks (in TOR that is remedied by incredible voice acting and the fact that you do most of the side stuff is steamlined while doing the main quest line [witch is crazy good at least for 2 classes I tried in beta] and WoW by the fact that you finish it zone by zone and you get great climax and can actually feel the build up).

The story and special attacks / fate system is way better than in Skyrim and the combat in general is way better / skill based. UI is what you expect from console port (and looks kinda outdated) but the weapon switching, potion using, spell casting is much better than in Skyrim.

Hope the story picks up soon (read somewhere that it takes ~200 h to finish the main story line) and I can see me playing this game more than skyrim (not a huge fan of it's lvling system/classes/crafting).

Overall I think it will be 7.5/8 game (sry for constant Skyrim mentions but it's not avoidable when you think about it).
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51101 Posts
February 08 2012 11:38 GMT
#153
On February 08 2012 20:31 Qbek wrote:
TB was very strict to show that he wasn't bribed. This might be not intentional by him but that's how I see it. He's looks like this kind of a person. The points he raised are true, I'll need to see some more of the game to buy it, but I love the crafting system, one that actually makes sense.


What?

so you're saying everyone else was bribed?
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jabbalegs
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom6 Posts
February 08 2012 11:57 GMT
#154
He's saying that TB went to extra lengths to ensure he didn't appear biased, especially given the amount of scepticism about the event. He probably fears his reputation may be tarnished.

His playthrough was more of a comedy roast. (thats the most diplomatic way I can put it)
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
February 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#155
Anyone just starting is advised to go through the House of Ballads quest line for an accurate representation of the game's narrative.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 12:19:18
February 08 2012 12:16 GMT
#156
TB wasn't more strict than in his other videos at all. I'm not saying other streamers were "corrupt" in any way, especially not Sean. With Sean it's just his positive personality and I pretty much expect him to find the best things in almost any game or pretty much anything he talks about. However I do feel that TB generally has a very good sense of what the games do right and especially what they do wrong.

As for not getting "deep" into the game, people need to realize that perceptions of almost all gamers are based on first impressions. I feel it is not unfair at all to judge the game by the first thirty minutes to one hour of gameplay (let alone five), especially when it comes to fundamental concepts that the entire game is based upon and that aren't really going to change as it progresses.

One important thing that has to be said is that there seems to be quite a few things that have gone wrong with the title that are not necessarily related to the game itself. The timing of release, misguided comparisons to Elder Scrolls games and possibly trying to sell the game under wrong labels and to the wrong audience.

Like I said previously, KoA is an arcade action game, it's just expanded over a non-linear environment and has a lot of side-activities added (which may or may not mix well with the core of the game, but that is a different issue altogether). It is not an RPG, and it is certainly not an open world RPG. When you compare it to other games, you need to compare it to games like Bastion, not Skyrim or even (the first) Dragon Age, as these games have absolutely nothing in common and don't belong to the same genre, no matter how you define the genres.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 08 2012 12:45 GMT
#157
On February 08 2012 20:09 Telcontar wrote:
I guess my fears were not unfounded. An action game masquerading as an RPG. I don't really know why I was so hopeful that Salvatore would flesh out an interesting world. He hasn't written anything good in a good long while. Plus, I knew the game would cater to the casual console gamers. Oh well.... another ship passes.

Reading the previews I was hoping it would be a little like Dark Souls or Demon's Souls. After playing those 2 games it's too hard to play another action rpg.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 12:54:42
February 08 2012 12:51 GMT
#158
If after 5 hours of gameplay he doesn't find the game captivating and the story/characters boring, then that's just how it is. You can't try to justify first 5-6 hours of gameplay being bland with "well it gets better during the end", 5 hours is a LOT to make a first impression.

I'll add to that that I dropped Witcher 2 well before 5 hours of gameplay because I found the combat system retarded, the console port controls atrocious and while I like the story (I read several of the novels), it wasn't quite enough for me to overlook all the gameplay problems and the ABSOLUTELY RETARDED MINIGAMES where the game doesn't even give you instructions how to do them. Take arm wrestling, game tells you, keep the indicator in the yellow field. And 0 instructions how to do that. I had to google wtf I was supposed to do as it wasn't quite that obvious the shaky movement of the indicator is controlled by mouse when like the fist fighting was done pure movement controls..
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 08 2012 12:53 GMT
#159
On February 08 2012 20:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On February 08 2012 20:31 Qbek wrote:
TB was very strict to show that he wasn't bribed. This might be not intentional by him but that's how I see it. He's looks like this kind of a person. The points he raised are true, I'll need to see some more of the game to buy it, but I love the crafting system, one that actually makes sense.


What?

so you're saying everyone else was bribed?

I'm saying that some people think they all were paid. TB felt a bit more strict, might be just my feeling. I'm not saying they were bribed, I'm saying TB might have counteracted to the accusations by being more strict. Whatever the case, I think he gave a solid review and raised some good points, gaining a lot of respect from me for doing so knowing he's watched by the devs themselves(I'm pretty sure thay watched him).
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Caryc
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany330 Posts
February 08 2012 13:05 GMT
#160
for some1 who thought about buying the game i think the complains of TB were quite reasonable - not saying that makes it automatically a 5/10 but for me personally it convinced me of not buying it.
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