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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 19 2014 13:21 GMT
#461
I feel like I may have to kill Glyph as well. It's only using 8% CPU and 14% RAM but I cannot do anything else on my computer. Even typing this is like 1 FPS and the further along the installer goes the slower my computer gets. I'd kill it now but I'm scared it will start all over, so I guess I will wait out the Applying part. If it tries to patch afterwards I'll kill it and see if that helps.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 19 2014 13:52 GMT
#462
Is there a secret to queue times? I started out at #200 something in line with a 30 minute queue estimate. I got down to #17 in queue with a 3 minute estimate, then it suddenly threw me back up to #400ish in queue with a > 1 hour estimate.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 19 2014 13:54 GMT
#463
The best part is that you can't actually play because of absurdly long queues. Glad I didn't pay anything.
maru lover forever
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22206 Posts
September 19 2014 13:54 GMT
#464
On September 19 2014 22:52 Serejai wrote:
Is there a secret to queue times? I started out at #200 something in line with a 30 minute queue estimate. I got down to #17 in queue with a 3 minute estimate, then it suddenly threw me back up to #400ish in queue with a > 1 hour estimate.

patrons (subscribers) have priority in queue so I guess a whole punch of em just tried to log in.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22206 Posts
September 19 2014 13:56 GMT
#465
On September 19 2014 22:54 Incognoto wrote:
The best part is that you can't actually play because of absurdly long queues. Glad I didn't pay anything.

Yea this weekend is going to be insane when everyone has time to try and (not) play.

Once the sub drop happens in a few weeks it should get alot better.
The problem is that because of the land plot gameplay they cant just make a bunch of servers and merge them if needed.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 19 2014 14:11 GMT
#466
On September 19 2014 22:54 Incognoto wrote:
The best part is that you can't actually play because of absurdly long queues. Glad I didn't pay anything.


I'm on the lowest pop server there is. An hour long queue for 400 people... the servers with 3,000 people in queue must be ridiculous. And this is at 7-10am on a weekday.

I don't really see any excuse for this level of failure in an MMO launch. World of Warcraft had an equally bad launch but it was the first MMO Blizzard did, so it was expected. Not only is this Trion's third MMO, but it's also one that's already been out for a while elsewhere and had a very lengthy beta. They knew exactly how many people to expect at launch so it's hard to say this is anything other than a cash grab by them, trying to frustrate people enough to buy Patron.

You can't really use the land excuse, either, because Landmark has the same land claiming system and they handled it just fine (nearly quadrupled player capacity within 48 hours of realizing they didn't have enough). Sony was very active in communicating, too, whereas Trion basically just said "buy Patron if you want faster queue times!" on social media.

Keep in mind I'm not saying ANYTHING about the game itself, as I haven't been able to play it yet. The company running the game, however, doesn't seem to have learned anything at all in recent years. Trion has been on life support for about two years now due to their terrible management and customer service (which is a shame because Rift is a good game, and Trove isn't bad either).

Between the clunky installation process and the poor server management I would easily put this in the top 5 worst MMO launches, joining the ranks of World of Warcraft, Age of Conan, Vanguard, and Anarchy Online.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 19 2014 14:13 GMT
#467
Installed last night - queues were far too long to pretend like I'd get in. I was fortunately able to pop in and create my character this morning before work (on Inoch).

Hoping that I'll be able to get on after work, but my hopes aren't too high. Worst case, I'll just queue up and play TF2 while I wait lol
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 14:23:02
September 19 2014 14:20 GMT
#468
Theres some definite faults in the pk/trade system tbh. In protected areas you cant attack someone unless they attack you first, so if you go across the sea they can go 10v1 against you all and easily take your trade packs.

Also i just ran some guys across the sea, this dude gets caught out and the guy AoE's another two of us towards the end so we manage to kill him just after he kills our friend - our friend died so he dropped the tradepack, some guy from our own faction grabs the tradepack which was now close enough to the guards to be protected and turns it in himself.

Imho there should be a timer on people outside the trader / pirates party on being able to pick up the trade packs. The guy got completely screwed because his trade pack is just a free for all after he dies, even though we killed his killer.

@ Serejai the only people suffering from megaqueues are those on the most populated server or F2P players and F2P players can suck it up and pay if they dont like the queues on launch week.

You're being melodramatic and just remind me of the idiots spamming global chat and reddit tbh. Ive had no queue at all throughout launch.
Useless wet fish.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 19 2014 14:38 GMT
#469
Lol. Did you really just pull the "I have no issues, therefore there are no issues" line? I guess there are a lot of "idiots" here on Teamliquid as well because most people in this thread have posted about queues. You are the ONLY person to say there are no queues, so perhaps you should re-evaluate your opinions on the matter.
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SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
September 19 2014 14:41 GMT
#470
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 19 2014 14:45 GMT
#471
On September 19 2014 23:38 Serejai wrote:
Lol. Did you really just pull the "I have no issues, therefore there are no issues" line? I guess there are a lot of "idiots" here on Teamliquid as well because most people in this thread have posted about queues. You are the ONLY person to say there are no queues, so perhaps you should re-evaluate your opinions on the matter.


I do think you're overreacting as well. If you look at every majorly hyped game release in the last several years, many of them have release week issues. Blizzard is notorious for it, even outside of vanilla WoW launch.

And now, I'm not 100% defending Trion on this - they made some mistakes that they probably shouldn't have. Not having an auto-time out on people in character select is very silly, and it's those people idly clogging the pipes that are probably having the worst impact on queue times.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 19 2014 14:46 GMT
#472
Finally got in the game, played for about five minutes, then crash to desktop from some CryEngine error. Back in queue I go!
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8656 Posts
September 19 2014 14:50 GMT
#473
On September 19 2014 22:21 Serejai wrote:
I feel like I may have to kill Glyph as well. It's only using 8% CPU and 14% RAM but I cannot do anything else on my computer. Even typing this is like 1 FPS and the further along the installer goes the slower my computer gets. I'd kill it now but I'm scared it will start all over, so I guess I will wait out the Applying part. If it tries to patch afterwards I'll kill it and see if that helps.


Maybe it's HackShield interfering with your antivir program? Wouldn't be the first time for this to happen.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 15:17:15
September 19 2014 15:15 GMT
#474
On September 19 2014 23:38 Serejai wrote:
Lol. Did you really just pull the "I have no issues, therefore there are no issues" line? I guess there are a lot of "idiots" here on Teamliquid as well because most people in this thread have posted about queues. You are the ONLY person to say there are no queues, so perhaps you should re-evaluate your opinions on the matter.


A torrent of F2P players in my global chat spamming about 3k+ Queues. Same on reddit.

Guildmembers with Patron and alts on other servers complaining about a 1k queue on Dahuta, 3k queue in Kyprosia, the two most populated servers.

-Do you see how these two things match up exactly with what i said about populated servers and F2Pers

For somebody who acts so high and mighty about every game he ever lands his hands on (especially MMO's) you really are a complete numbskull if you think Trion (or any company, ever) should upscale their server capacity by 1000-2000% for launch week. It is literally a bunch of people who hopped on the hypetrain about this new MMO they heard about probably a few days ago. Source? I'm one of them, So are you. Difference being i paid my way through the door.

This hypetrain will be gone in a month. In two weeks there won't even fucking be a queue and 90% of all these kids running rampant screaming about queues and shit will be gone leaving only the people who actually want to enjoy the game.

You want more servers? They added more, six in fact, 1 each for EU/NA the night before launch and Two @ Launch. Any more would be suicide the likes Wildstar recently commit. I stand by the fact that EU didn't even need the 7th server. There are STILL plots of land in PRIME locations on Aier - the 5th server that started the night before launch, on the four servers that started with headstart this land was gone IN UNDER AN HOUR.

But Trion decided to open it because there were mass amounts of F2P players that won't even be here next month trying to log in.

You want to talk about the problems Trion / Archeage have go right ahead, just come up with some legitimate complaints other than "There are queues on launch week Q.Q why don't they do what no company does ever and compensate for launch week with a shit load of temporarily needed hardware they'll have no use for in a month SO I CAN PLAY FOR FREE!"

And yet still on EU-Aier everybody i talk to including myself get queues of under 5, yes FIVE, people when logging in with Patron at any time of day if there even is a queue.

If people are going to turn around and say "Well i couldn't log into this massively hyped F2P game on launch week without sub-queue so i uninstalled it and never played it again" then good fuckin' riddance to be honest because they are the fools who 1) wont be playing after a month and 2) are extremely unlikely to ever spend a dime on the game in the first place.

The people actually interested in sticking around and paying Trions bills will overlook this NEVER BEFORE SEEN occurrence.

List of ACTUAL problems with Trions handling of the launch for your viewing pleasure:

1) F2P players were given Patron status, this screwed up the queues massively and even allowed some of the F2Pers to clog up land spots with land they cant even use now its been reverted.

2) When they reverted F2P players Patron status they somehow fucked that up too and left a bunch of paid-Patrons without Patron status, so now theres a whole lotta pissed off paying customers and rightly so. This still screws up all the queues forcing Patrons to queue with the masses of F2Pers and fuck up everyones day.

3) Some people purchasing founders packs still haven't received their Patron status or bonus goodies from it all, despite being let into the headstart / betas.

4) No. 3 is actually the same for their entire store, people buying stuff and it simply not showing up for days on end.

5) Their afk "system" is just not working whatsoever. Go figure. They dont even have an autokick on character screen probably because you dont get the bonus patron labor there so they didnt give a shit. You see tens of people running circles in the sea so they can stay logged on for the labor gains because Trion decided to make online/offline different amounts like RETARDS. If it isn't for this its for skipping queues and not knowing about the char screen "bug".

6) I posted earlier about their safezone-PK-Trade system, put simply its completely abusable and negates the need for open-world pvp when you can just camp traders and wait.

7) I can't comment on game crashes since i dont crash but apparently this is a big problem, the grace period for queue helps alot though, so kudos for that.

^ All of this above are legitimate complaints about Trions handling of launch and i can only see ONE that is remotely towards gameplay and i have not experienced a single one of these problems myself.

TL;DR - Get the **** over yourself.
Useless wet fish.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 15:45:29
September 19 2014 15:45 GMT
#475
Woah guys, calm down. Yes the server has issues, yes they will be gone, yes some of them might have been preventable. We don't know. Lets not pull a reddit here!

On topic:
I highyl recommend that, if you are on EU, you go on the new servers. If you are a Patron your queue time is less than 10 minutes. Only go on Kyprosa, Dahuta, Eanna and Shatigon if you really have a good reason! (i.e. guilds, friends) The queues there will be gone eventually but that will take some time.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
September 19 2014 15:53 GMT
#476
There's really no point in even responding to you because everything you say is completely ignorant. I bought Patron and I get queues just like everyone else does. You don't seem to understand a thing about how server infrastructure works for an MMO, nor do you understand any of the launch issues that could be fixed, but aren't.

But please, continue name calling and flipping tables because someone with more experience than you in the MMO industry points out flaws in a launch.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 16:02:07
September 19 2014 15:56 GMT
#477
On September 20 2014 00:15 Capped wrote:
For somebody who acts so high and mighty about every game he ever lands his hands on (especially MMO's) you really are a complete numbskull


I like how you have such huge experience in the "MMO industry" and yet you sit there and shittalk Trion for something every MMO (/popular online game) ever has had because of every reason i spoke about above.
Useless wet fish.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
September 19 2014 16:01 GMT
#478
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 16:02:54
September 19 2014 16:02 GMT
#479
It wasn't unintentional so therefore not very funny unfortunately.
Useless wet fish.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
September 19 2014 16:22 GMT
#480
p sure the q's are actually increasing. I alarm clocked to start my q time early and it was twice as long as this time yesterday.

A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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