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Gorsameth
Netherlands21685 Posts
On September 20 2014 01:22 Sermokala wrote: p sure the q's are actually increasing. I alarm clocked to start my q time early and it was twice as long as this time yesterday. More people have time on friday, plus more people knowing there are queues and so logging in earlier. This weekend will be unplayable for a lot of people because of queues. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On September 20 2014 01:22 Sermokala wrote: p sure the q's are actually increasing. I alarm clocked to start my q time early and it was twice as long as this time yesterday. Queues are increasing because more people are buying Patron in order to avoid the F2P queues. Irony. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 20 2014 01:25 Serejai wrote: Queues are increasing because more people are buying Patron in order to avoid the F2P queues. Irony. I've been thinking that as more people find out about the char screen "exploit", more people idle there each day | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21685 Posts
The plot system & castles in end game then hampers merging servers which makes it a very bad situation for the developer. They either open more servers which will die out in a month when the fotm crowd moves on (or 2 months when WoD releases), or they stick with their current servers which will probably be healthy in a months time but untill then its a terrible queue situation for your customers. They really have no positive option here and tbh I think sticking to their current servers is the right choice in the end. Esp if they send a mail round once the queues die down to try and convince those he left over the queues to come back and try the game again. On September 20 2014 01:28 jcarlsoniv wrote: I've been thinking that as more people find out about the char screen "exploit", more people idle there each day The combined issue of wanting to avoid queues and a game that punishes you for being offline. There simply isnt enough turnover in online users to make the queues move fast enough. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
I just connected to Inoch SO FAST i couldn't even get a screenshot of the queue. And Enla was instant too Aranzeb has a queue of ~300 Tahyang and Naima ~200 The others have large queues and are the "big popular servers" So there's Inoch, Enla on NA, with zero queue and Aier on EU, with zero queue. I can't even check the other EU servers because i have my character slots used on other servers already. Dahuta has ~2k queue being a popular server tho. Serejai talking out of his damn butthole, at least 3 confirmed servers i personally logged into with no queue as Patron. (This isnt NA primetime, but neither is when he was posting this rubbish.) Fuck it, i'll even sit in this 2.6k Dahuta queue and tell you how long it takes! | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Still haven't decided whether or not I'll Patron. Might be worth it just for a 1 month type deal to see. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21685 Posts
On September 20 2014 01:37 jcarlsoniv wrote: Well that doesn't seem too surprising, NA peeps are at work/school. I'm sure once 5 hits my time the servers will get hit hard, but I'll queue up and deal. Still haven't decided whether or not I'll Patron. Might be worth it just for a 1 month type deal to see. Before you do so make sure that their previous issues are fixed. People were buying Patron at launch and did not have it several days later. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On September 20 2014 01:30 Gorsameth wrote: Its just a fundemental flaw in their design philosophy. The player driven economy in an open world pvp game means that healthy servers are vital, much more so then in a game like WoW or SwtoR. The plot system & castles in end game then hampers merging servers which makes it a very bad situation for the developer Most Korean MMOs suffer this when they come the NA/EU. Aion was a great game on KR servers but a mediocre one on US servers because the playerbase was much smaller and that made the PvP raids quite dull. There's also the issue of playstyle; Korean players tend to be more hardcore while the majority of NA players are more casual. Aion was consistently one of the most-played games at pc bangs (ahead of WoW, League of Legends, etc) but never had nearly that much activity with the NA version. It has a snowball effect, too, because the content in this type of game requires players... and as players leave the content becomes worse, which in turn causes more players to leave, which causes the content to worsen further, etc. | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On September 20 2014 01:35 Capped wrote: Curious old me went to the NA servers to see how bad the queues really were. I just connected to Inoch SO FAST i couldn't even get a screenshot of the queue. And Enla was instant too Aranzeb has a queue of ~300 Tahyang and Naima ~200 The others have large queues and are the "big popular servers" So there's Inoch, Enla on NA, with zero queue and Aier on EU, with zero queue. I can't even check the other EU servers because i have my character slots used on other servers already. Dahuta has ~2k queue being a popular server tho. Serejai talking out of his damn butthole, at least 3 confirmed servers i personally logged into with no queue as Patron. (This isnt NA primetime, but neither is when he was posting this rubbish.) Fuck it, i'll even sit in this 2.6k Dahuta queue and tell you how long it takes! It's quite incredible that you have managed to make four posts in a row full of name calling, personal attacks, and other bullshit trying to cause drama in this thread for no reason. Grow up and stop being such a child just because other people have different experiences than you do with a video game. If you want to continue throwing a tantrum you should do it somewhere other than derailing the thread with it. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
That last post you quoted, full of information debunking your claims of massive queues. The huge post i made on the last page, full of information about why you are wrong and what Trion have actually done about queues, i even forgot to add they increased all server capacity by 40% since headstart. I then gave 7 points of legitimate criticism towards Trion since they are far from perfect little angels. If you had massive queues trying to login, where were they when i went and logged into NA at an even busier time period then you. You even made a post about crashing and then going back to the queue - Well we all know that's bull since the game has a grace period for you to log straight back in, if you went ahead and spent that time posting here or making some toast then thats your fault not theirs. I find it incredible that you can only stick your head in the clouds and your nose in the air and say "Well you're wrong and ignorant and i have lots and lots more experience in the MMO industry then you so i wont bother answering any of your valid points towards me" and continue acting exactly like i said you do (and then requoted for your pleasure) after i've proved you wrong on multiple occasions. I provided information and proved you wrong - You just don't like it and you're honestly not worth the time or hassle arguing with since you're just trying to play the bigger man and "look" good when anybody who reads whats been written will see how much of fool you are. I won't answer you any further, but why don't you man up and reply to me properly with all your supposed knowledge and answer to the facts i've provided? I would also like to point out you walked into this thread with a personal attack on Cheep and then called me an idiot on my first post towards you, You aren't such the quire boy you make yourself out to be with this "insults and personal attacks" business. - For anyone else legitimately wondering - Still in Dahuta queue, 1 hour in and ~1.5k left on the 2.6k queue. edit: typos - i suck at writing. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On September 20 2014 02:49 Capped wrote: If you want personal attacks and insults i can give you them, as far as i know i've only called you a numbskull and then gone on to write arguments to your blind shit-flinging at the games providers. The most i've done is mock you for throwing your toys out the pram like a child about the queues. That last post you quoted, full of information debunking your claims of massive queues. The huge post i made on the last page, full of information about why you are wrong and what Trion have actually done about queues, i even forgot to add they increased all server capacity by 40% since headstart. I then gave 7 points of legitimate criticism towards Trion since they are far from perfect little angels. If you had massive queues trying to login, where were they when i went and logged into NA at an even busier time period then you. You even made a post about crashing and then going back to the queue - Well we all know that's bull since the game has a grace period for you to log straight back in, if you went ahead and spent that time posting here or making some toast then thats your fault not theirs. I find it incredible that you can only stick your head in the clouds and your nose in the air and say "Well you're wrong and ignorant and i have lots and lots more experience in the MMO industry then you so i wont bother answering any of your valid points towards me" and continue acting exactly like i said you do (and then requoted for your pleasure) after i've proved you wrong on multiple occasions. I provided information and proved you wrong - You just don't like it and you're honestly not worth the time or hassle arguing with since you're just trying to play the bigger man and "look" good when anybody who reads whats been written will see how much of fool you are. I won't answer you any further, but why don't you man up and reply to me properly with all your supposed knowledge and answer to the facts i've provided? I would also like to point out you walked into this thread with a personal attack on Cheep and then called me an idiot on my first post towards you, You aren't such the quire boy you make yourself out to be with this "insults and personal attacks" business. - For anyone else legitimately wondering - Still in Dahuta queue, 1 hour in and ~1.5k left on the 2.6k queue. edit: typos - i suck at writing. Started my Client at 12:30 pm, started my GFs client at around 14:30. Both not patron. Mine is now at 201 (started out 1700) and my GFs is at 479 (started out at 2000), it is now 20:06 local time. 3,33 Queue-places per minute. Not quite motivating :D edit: Dahuta Servers edit2: just moved from 198 to 97 :o | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
There will be queues all over for F2P players for a few weeks i would say (at least two) and the funny thing is when the queues disappear that will be the best time for F2P players to buy patron because all the land will be freeing up due to the hypetrain dying and a ton of people quitting. The queues will be much faster on one of the newer servers though and if you really want to avoid them, buy patron and switch to a newer server (like mine, Aier) for no queues (unless you consider the occasional 30 seconds a queue) | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On September 20 2014 02:49 Capped wrote: If you want personal attacks and insults i can give you them, as far as i know i've only called you a numbskull and then gone on to write arguments to your blind shit-flinging at the games providers. The most i've done is mock you for throwing your toys out the pram like a child about the queues. That last post you quoted, full of information debunking your claims of massive queues. The huge post i made on the last page, full of information about why you are wrong and what Trion have actually done about queues, i even forgot to add they increased all server capacity by 40% since headstart. I then gave 7 points of legitimate criticism towards Trion since they are far from perfect little angels. If you had massive queues trying to login, where were they when i went and logged into NA at an even busier time period then you. You even made a post about crashing and then going back to the queue - Well we all know that's bull since the game has a grace period for you to log straight back in, if you went ahead and spent that time posting here or making some toast then thats your fault not theirs. I find it incredible that you can only stick your head in the clouds and your nose in the air and say "Well you're wrong and ignorant and i have lots and lots more experience in the MMO industry then you so i wont bother answering any of your valid points towards me" and continue acting exactly like i said you do (and then requoted for your pleasure) after i've proved you wrong on multiple occasions. I provided information and proved you wrong - You just don't like it and you're honestly not worth the time or hassle arguing with since you're just trying to play the bigger man and "look" good when anybody who reads whats been written will see how much of fool you are. I won't answer you any further, but why don't you man up and reply to me properly with all your supposed knowledge and answer to the facts i've provided? I would also like to point out you walked into this thread with a personal attack on Cheep and then called me an idiot on my first post towards you, You aren't such the quire boy you make yourself out to be with this "insults and personal attacks" business. - For anyone else legitimately wondering - Still in Dahuta queue, 1 hour in and ~1.5k left on the 2.6k queue. edit: typos - i suck at writing. as someone who plays on Aranzeb every day... we always have a queue time. Mornings arent bad, but by peak play time its at least 90 mins even for patrons. And we are #3 or #4 server in terms of population/popularity. Ollo and Kyrio or whatever both have 5+ hour Q times consistantly. And i have patron as i bought into the alpha, and am a founder. I dont know anything about the EU servers tho. But saying "i checked once and here were the Q times = all other info is wrong" is a poor reflection of reality | ||
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
Yesterday I got home from work at around 3 PM and queued up for Kyprosa (EU) 5 Hours later WITH PATRON I get into the game. So I thought, hey why not change servers, the new servers probably have less queues. So I spend my ingame credits on a character expansion to add 2 more slots (since I was dumb enough to make 2 chars on Kyprosa) So before I went to bed I decided to check some of the newest servers, and the 3 newest did not have a patron queue. Since it was late and I did not want to decide apperance, faction and server then I went to bed. Fastforward, today I get home at 4PM and try to queue up, oh snap, 3460 in queue, so I get this idea that I can make a character on a different server and wait for them to actually fix server transfers, but well, I forgot it is Trion. It seems that I can¨t make a new character on the other servers, as I could not connect to them. Well that is weird, since it worked fine yesterday, so I go searching the forums, and find out that for me to make a new character on a different server, I first have to log into my old server Kyprosa, and then connect to another server from there, HOW FUCKING DUMB IS THAT? I am trying to avoid the massive queues, and they spit in my face. So now I have been stuck in queues for 4,5 hours, and I am number 1296 in line just so I can log into Kyprosa, log onto another server and make a new character. THANK YOU VERY MUCH | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
The sample size i used was comparable to the person who made the claims that there were massive unbearable queues everywhere all the time, which is simply not true from the check i did on the NA servers and my own experiences in EU. But there ARE queues. You can also make certain estimates from the numbers, but i agree they aren't a very solid representation at all, more of a general insight into things. The queues are alot worse on the 4 headstart servers on both NA and EU too because of all the founders that settled there. Tons of hardcore guilds jumped at those servers and then with F2P all the band wagoners scuttled there too. I know multiple people on Dahuta / Kyriosa that abandoned their characters there (other than tax upkeep) in favor of Aier because of it. All this discussion about queues is, at the end of the day, completely redundant because it happens at every popular / hyped game launch from GTA5 to Archeage for very good reasons ive already spoken about and will be a complete non-issue in a week or two. tl;dr - blergh im bored and want to stop talking about shit that everyone should expect and wont even matter in 2 weeks. EDIT: WOW Chanted that is pretty f**king retarded on Trions part tbh. Queues arent a problem, crap like this is! | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
b) AA servers have a capacity of around 10k players according to Trion; WoW launched with 1.5k and is currently around 5-7k, Aion had a server capacity of 5k at launch, etc. There are servers that have queues near 30,000 at prime time (http://i.imgur.com/w9YPE5C.jpg), which means the current servers cannot even support a third of the people trying to log in. This also appears to contradict all of your "debunking" of my claims that there are queues on servers because, well, there are queues. Essentially at this point we've established that you're full of shit in your claims that there are no queues, and you're also full of shit in your claims that you've proven anyone wrong about anything - unless we're talking about you proving yourself wrong, in which case you've done that very well. If you ever manage to provide any of these "facts" you mentioned, I'd be glad to respond to those as well. Up until now it's just been a bunch of name calling and substantiating my own claims while catching yourself in lies. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
EDIT: 2 hours and a few minutes after i queue for Dahuta im in. This is roughly at the start of primetime but its probably worse by now. Now i can log out and go back to Aier ^^ Not entirely sure why i bothered doing that but i guess i wanted to see for myself - Launch queues are here to stay and they suck! | ||
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Chanted
Norway1001 Posts
forums.archeagegame.com 1071 in queue now, 5 hours 16 minutes in queue | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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