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With the first game successfully completed here, it is time for our next EU3 Succession game. If you don't know what EU3 is, i would recommend reading a bit in this thread. It is a very fun grand strategy game about politics, war, expansion and destruction of nations and much more in the 15th to 19th century.
The consensus in the last thread was that we want to focus far more on the AAR(After Action Report) this time around, so please write a nice one. The game will continue until we run out of players or until it is 1820.
Rules:
We will be playing unmodded DW 5.1, so you obviously need to own that game to participate.
To play, demand a spot in this thread. Players will play in order of appearance. Please make it absolutely clear that you want to play. You can sign up at any time before the game is finished.
After one player has finished his turn by uploading the save, the next in line must claim his spot within 24 hours. New: I want to reduce the maintenance i have to do, so it is now your responsibility to send the next in line a PM and post in this thread who he is for everyone to see. If this does not work out, i will do that stuff again.
He then has another 72 hours to play out his turn. New: If you are not finished with your 20 years during this time, don't worry. Just hand over as much as you have done.
Since the holidays are near, the following days do not count for both claiming your spot and playing your turn: 24-26th of December, 31th of December, 1st of January. So if the player before you finishes on December 23, you have until December 27 to claim your spot.
Each player must give a report on what happened during his rulership time in this thread. Preferably a fun one. This is an important part of the game. If you don't feel like posting an AAR, don't play. If you don't post an AAR, the safegame you post will be ignored and we revert back to the last one before it. Noone expects literary genius, but we want to have a complete chronicle of what happened in this succession game, not half of the players reports completely missing.
You also have to upload his safegame and post a link to it in this thread. Please end your report with a full picture of our complete realm, so people spectating can have a better idea of what is happening.
Be nice. We want to have fun here, so don't do stuff like purposefully ruining the nation (doing it by accident is absolutely fine), starting a war on the last day of your reign, or complaining all the time how shitty the people playing before you were. The nation will be different and probably less effective then it would have been if you alone played it, so expect that. As a general rule, just be nice.
Suggestions
Take Screenshots. A lot of them. They can make your AAR far easier to follow, and much more fun. F12 takes a map of the world, F11 a screenshot of your ingame view. Both can be found in the Screenshots directory of your EU3 game.
Give your rule a personality, and set some goals that don't only involve blobbing up mindlessly. Free that other country of your religion from the evil imperialist oppressors, marry that beautiful english lady you met at the dance in London, build a great wall along your border to protect against the endless onslaught of the mongol hordes or do anything else you can think of.
Startup
Instead of posting a lot of polls, i decided to do stuff a bit different this time around. When you sign up, please post a country that you would like to play, and if any settings are particularly important to you, and the reasons behind that. You can of course just support another post before you if you like that idea, too. This period will run for about 2-3 days. The person who summits the winning country gets to play the first turn if he wants to.
I for one would like to play something small-ish in South-East Asia, because i never was in that area before. Also, this time around i will abuse my power as organisator and claim the last spot for me, i want to play the country with all its history behind it.
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Yay, last one was fun to follow. Shame I'm terrible at this game so can't participate.
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Meh, not really a problem. We will probably need someone to run the nation into the ground in the mid or lategame to keep things interesting anyways. Unless you somehow manage to get completely annexed in 20 years, everything is fine.
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Play just for fun, you don`t even need to be decent - if u have nice plan of your game, and after you are able to post interesting AAR you are much more welcome to play, than those who just want to have "perfect country" and cant put effort to post their view on what happened 
I`m in - but i want to play as 4th or 5th player not 2nd
Lets play Holland - small, inside HRE, start is not best (under PU) but overall can be nice choice.
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If you're bad at the game its great! It will make for a funny AAR and harder for the more experianced players! Please still sign up.
I think we should play as teutonics.
EDIT* Sorry forgot to say! Sign me up please! I want to play.
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Drolla from Scotland- sounds like a good starting plan! Fight for the freedom of oppressed people all over the world! Keep the redcoats at bay, face the challenges of competing with the major trade leagues- help the smaller nations against the big bullies!
Braveheart II - The Rise of Drolla !
Don't worry if you're not that experienced a player as you have plenty of time to ask for advice during your turn and noone expects pro play anyway- last succesion game showed that very efficient, dominance oriented play leads to major boredom in the later stages of the game.
edit: Yeah, your AAR skills (and willingness) are way more important than your game expertise.
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Its actualy the oposite, F11 takes screenshot of the view, and F12 takes ss of Your posessions on the World Map.
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Please be more clear if you want to play or not, say something like "I'm in", "I want to play" or so, otherwise it is quite hard for me to find out who wants to play and who ist just discussing stuff.
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Post #2 incase you missed me signing up! My misstake. I want to play!
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On December 09 2011 03:42 Silvanel wrote:
Its actualy the oposite, F11 takes screenshot of the view, and F12 takes ss of Your posessions on the World Map.
Thanks, edited, i just randomly hit one until it gives the message i want usually, so i was not totally sure.
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Yeah seems you missed me as well
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I probably won't participate as a player, for this game at least, but I'm definitely looking forward to reading the AAR's of this round I love reading them especially when they have a few SS's to compliment the report. It's really like reading about alternate military history, fun stuff =D
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sign me up again too! im voting for a muslim nation, preferably one close/in Mediterranean like Algeria.
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Sign me up. I prefer NOT being in Southeast Asia because games over there are so dull: nothing ever happens. Europe and its neighbors are where it's at.
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Add me too please!
+ Show Spoiler +I'd like to play Korea, it's quite difficult but fun at the same time. You have a buffer with the mighty Ming, which let you time to develop, you are quite a naval power, so you have many possibilities. Japan, South Asia... which can make for fun games.
Also it's a quite difficult country with terrible techs so we would have to play intelligently. Most of all the Europeans would still make for some good challenge for the later player while the Mings are very strong at the beginning and most likely throughout most of the game unless they are defeated by Superiors minds...
Also I think it would be fun because I never played Korea or any country in East Asia except Japan which are quite unique in their own way. You spend most of the game uniting the country and then you just smash Asia.
Also as Korea is a naval Power it makes up for a lot of raid like warfare and not only the easy Toe-to-Toe fights because you will most likely loose them.
So, that's my pick! Hope for some good games guys!
Actually Europa Is still the most fun, but when I look specifically for a country there I don't see any I'd like to play again arggg...
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Sign me up. I would prefer OPM in the HRE. I would strongly vote against anything in east Asia.
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On December 09 2011 03:33 Monsen wrote:
Drolla from Scotland- sounds like a good starting plan! Fight for the freedom of oppressed people all over the world! Keep the redcoats at bay, face the challenges of competing with the major trade leagues- help the smaller nations against the big bullies!
Braveheart II - The Rise of Drolla !
Don't worry if you're not that experienced a player as you have plenty of time to ask for advice during your turn and noone expects pro play anyway- last succesion game showed that very efficient, dominance oriented play leads to major boredom in the later stages of the game.
edit: Yeah, your AAR skills (and willingness) are way more important than your game expertise.
Thank you, you've made me feel like a princess. <3
But still won't participate.
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I'll participate, though I'm not that good D:
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Ok, so so far we have people who want to play Korea, Holland, an OPM in the HRE, some North African/Middle Eastern Muslim, and one time "Not SE Asia".
Of those, the strongest is probably Holland with its insane sliders which make it possible to dominate european trade right from the start. However, defending against France/Burgundy in the beginning could be interesting, depending on how those countries act. Once you get colonisation going you should easily be able to become a superpower very fast.
Any other HRE OPM would mean a very political game with limited expansion because of the HRE mechanics, that could be pretty interesting, too. Especially without the overpowered trade of the hollanders. But there probably also are very long periods of inactivity forced by that.
As i said, i have not really played in Asia at all, so Korea could either be very interesting or very boring. They are surrounded by stronger powers with Ming, Manchu and Japan, and because of them not being of Western tech group they have more goals for the later parts of the game with the need to compete with western powers. However, being surrounded by stronger countries could just force you into a very passive game.
Fighting off the crusaders as a smaller Muslim country close to europe could be very interesting, too. But we just played our last game in the mediterranean, so being in a different region would be better in my opinion.
Those are my thoughts on those countries. I would probably prefer Korea or some HRE OPM among those, but maybe other think differently about this.
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I want to play!!! Sign me up etc!!!
I think playing a Russian principality could be good. Do our best not to get gobbled up by the GH in the early game, then form Russia and spread our way across Asia Or the Teutonic Order, always wanted to play them properly. Battle heathens, form Prussia and then onwards to glory!
I'm not averse to Holland, though I do tend to play it a lot, very fun country!
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I`m fine with any country you guys choose - Holland was just a proposition
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On December 10 2011 09:36 Drolla wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 03:33 Monsen wrote:
Drolla from Scotland- sounds like a good starting plan! Fight for the freedom of oppressed people all over the world! Keep the redcoats at bay, face the challenges of competing with the major trade leagues- help the smaller nations against the big bullies!
Braveheart II - The Rise of Drolla !
Don't worry if you're not that experienced a player as you have plenty of time to ask for advice during your turn and noone expects pro play anyway- last succesion game showed that very efficient, dominance oriented play leads to major boredom in the later stages of the game.
edit: Yeah, your AAR skills (and willingness) are way more important than your game expertise. Thank you, you've made me feel like a princess. <3 But still won't participate.
Please tell me you're a guy- that'd be such a hilarious comment then 
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So. Apparently, there are no more additional contributions, so i think we should get this thing started. From what i have gathered here, an OPM inside the HRE should be acceptable for most, since many people stated they want to play in Europe. Since this was first proposed by Bairemuth, he also has the honour of starting the game. So choose one citystate you like, and get playing. Please claim your spot here in the Thread.
I think we should go with the same settings like the last game, which were hard difficulty/normal aggression.
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yeah!
can`t wait for the 1st story
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Goodluck team, I have a bad feeling my reign will be a cataclysmic disaster :-).
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I did not expect to go first, but I will get on this asap. I should have my AAR up by late tonight.
Edit: Like really late .
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Good luck!
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Claiming my spot! I will play this later today.
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Archbishop Wilhelm II took over the tiny nation of Alsace in 1394. Wilhelm was quite the average ruler; he was far from extraordinary, but he was no fool, either. However, this acceptance of mediocrity caused stagnation within the country. For 5 years, Wilhelm was content with doing nothing except for maintaining a small amount of revenue through trade. An army was not needed, he thought, because the great kingdom of Bohemia would offer protection if needed – an assumption he safely made because Alsace is a loyal member of the Holy Roman Empire, and Bohemia its glorious ruler.
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On October 14, 1399, Wilhelm woke from a haunting nightmare. Through this dream, he witnessed what would happen to his nation if this stagnation would continue: Burgundy would soon amass an invasion that would demolish Alsace within a matter of weeks. Wilhelm would be executed and his people enslaved. Wilhelm; however, came upon a glimmer of hope through his slumber. He realized that if he were to take action and declare war on his neighbor, Baden, his demise might be prolonged, and his people might be provided the opportunity to survive and the potential to flourish.
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Without hesitation, Wilhelm II declared war on the nation of Baden. Wilhelm’s confidence was extreme, but it was quickly flattened as an army began marching directly towards Alsace’s capital: Elsass. The army was only 1,000 strong, which Wilhelm could match in numbers; however, it was reported that 2,000 mercenaries would also be reinforcing Baden’s general, Bernhard I von Baden, within a couple of weeks. Wilhelm attempted to recruit his own mercenaries, but would only be able to field 1,000 more by the time of the attack.
The Battle of Elsass: The battle began quite small: 1,000 against 1,000. Wilhelm’s mercenaries arrived first, giving him a 2:1 advantage in numbers, but within a few days, Bernhard’s 2,000 mercenaries arrived and the tilt of the advantage switched once again. Luckily, Wilhelm was able to locate an additional regiment of mercenaries and the numbers of each side were equal. Bernhard had more mercenaries on the way, but before they could arrive, his men’s morale had hit rock bottom and they were forced to retreat. Wilhelm attempted to chase the army, but was met with the late arriving mercenary reinforcements that had to be dealt with. These mercenaries were also forced to retreat to Breisgau, where they would be chased down and annihilated.
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For the next few months, Wilhelm was forced to deal with several regiments of mercenaries, but no battle was as crucial as the Battle of Elsass. Eventually, Bernhard’s army would regather its composure and march towards Elsass again, while Wilhelm’s army lay siege on the province of Breisgau. Wilhelm had this instinctive desire to destroy Bernhard once and for all; and therefore, marched towards Elsass to meet in the Second Battle of Elsass. Bernhard was no match as he was outnumbered 2:1, thus retreated to Breisgau. Wilhelm would follow and would finally put an end to Bernhard and his army.
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During these battles, there was a cascade of declarations of war upon the great nation of Alsace. Bohemia was the first as it ruled the Holy Roman Empire, thus naturally offered protection. Luckily, no sight of Bohemian armies or the other parties of the war had been seen yet. By the time the Baden army had been annihilated, there were 7 nations at war with Alsace.
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Wilhelm was extremely nervous. Had he made a mistake by declaring war on a neighbor without reason? He began to feel as if the decision was literally all or nothing. If Milan or Bohemia marched a 10,000+ strong army towards Alsace, then his nation’s survival would surely come to an end. However, proclaiming it all or nothing was a serious oversight because he clearly did not have much to gain at all. Thus, it was more “little or nothing.” At most, he was going to take over a province or two, and at worst, he would be dead and his nation no more. Wilhelm knew there was no turning back and thus continued with his operation. He successfully laid siege on Breisgau and then proceeded to Baden for similar success. This was no easy process; however, as the sieges took a year and a half together.
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Wilhelm now had a decision to make: either force Baden to cede one of their two provinces, or force vassalisation upon Baden. He chose the latter because the thought of another war in 5 years to complete the process seemed unbearable. In addition, he would likely be able to force a diplo-annex within 10 years.
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Now that peace was settled with Baden, Wilhelm would move his attention to the nations that remained at war with his country. He offered all of them white peace, but they would not accept. In addition, he even offered to concede defeat despite his clear victory, but again they declined. Wilhelm took great offense to this because of the great amount of success that his nation had over the past couple of years.
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In response to the insult, Wilhelm offered an alliance to The Palatinate (which was accepted), and marched his newly named “Royal Army” to the city-state, Ulm. The battle of Ulm was quick and easy with the newly found confidence and perseverance of Wilhelm II. Ulm’s army of 3,000 quickly retreated and left Wilhelm to lay siege upon Ulm’s capital.
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Despite this success, Wilhelm had no desire to continue this war because of the potential threats of Milan and Bohemia. Once again, Wilhelm offered to concede defeat to Bohemia, and this time Bohemia decided to accept the agreement, and thus Alsace was finally at peace. Wilhelm quickly dismissed his mercenaries and returned home. It was time to focus on paying off the loans required for war and to address the impending inflation situation.
Over the next two years, there were many glorious celebrations and festivals in honor of the great Wilhelm II. He achieved what he desired and his fear of defeat had slowly crept out of his mind. On March 3, 1404 Wilhelm II suddenly died. The day was truly sad as the great warrior and leader had perished, but not by his enemies, which was his only desire, and thus he likely left the world a happy man. In his place, Louis Constantine I took over, who had displayed signs of great diplomacy, and the people were optimistic of his future rule.
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Just before Wilhelm’s death, the treacherous nation, The Palatinate, had disbanded our alliance. To Constantine’s amusement, they were completely annihilated by Bavaria on May 11, 1407. However, this eventually brought about mixed emotions because now there was a great sense of fear for the nation of Alsace. Bavaria now has a natural border to the north, Burgundy is waging war on our neighbors, Loraine, to the east, and the behemoths Bohemia and Austria are within reach of our west. If it were possible to die of fear alone, then Constantine’s cause of death would be claustrophobia.
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Constantine was slowly fixing the nation’s economy by reducing inflation and paying off loans; the Nobles seemed to take interest in this. They donated 73 ducats to the nation of Alsace, which doubled the treasury. This money would be put to use immediately. Constantine decided that he needed an advisor to help in diplomacy, since it was time to diplo-annex the puny nation of Baden. Though such a notion seemed highly unlikely, Baden realized its irrelevance and accepted the request. As a result, Alsace’s size grew threefold, and now Constantine began to salivate at the thought of new potential conquering.
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Constantine, though, was not quite as reckless as the late Wilhelm II. He knew he had to wait for the absolute perfect moment to strike down a new foe. Burgundy had been fighting Austria over the past 10 years in a complete stalemate. At least thirty thousand men on each side would constantly throw themselves at each other, such superior forces that Alsace could never withstand; thus, the Burgundy-Austria war was better than any ally with any nation. In addition, Constantine’s threat to the north, Bavaria, was also at war with Austria. Despite the fact that Württemberg had many threatening allys, the likelihood of them caring about two puny nations waging war on each other was slim. Constantine became confident of his assumptions and declared war on Württemberg.
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Constantine considered himself an extraordinary field general, which many assumed was simple overconfidence, but his doubters were soon proved otherwise, as he eradicated Württemberg’s entire army of 4,000 men in a single battle. Despite this success, there was still a huge amount of fear lingering in Constantine’s mind. He knew that he had to take over Württemberg before any ally, such as Austria, would intervene. Thus, he took a leap of faith, and assaulted the capital city. In just 29 days, the city fell to Constantine’s control and thus he marched south hoping to have similar success. God was clearly on Constantine’s side because Konstanz fell with just as much ease. Constantine followed the idea of Wilhelm and demanded that Württemberg become our vassal.
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Like Wilhelm, Constantine had trouble making peace with the remaining nations that were at war with Alsace. Hesse led the alliance of 7 nations that included Austria and Bavaria. Constantine regrouped his army and found Hesse’s army defending the province of Ansbach. He commanded his army of roughly 8,000 towards the puny army of 7,000 that was commanded by the Hessian general, Phillip. Phillip was no match for the experienced Constantine and ran like cowards to the province of Franken. Constantine pursued and annihilated Phillip’s army.
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Despite Hesse’s embarrassing defeat, they still refused our peace offer. It was clear that Constantine would have to march on their capital to prove their inferiority. Constantine’s army, however, was exhausted and reinforcements were coming in very slowly. Therefore, it was quite unwise to blindly assault the city, and thus, Constantine laid siege on Hessen for 262 days until it finally surrendered. Hesse finally realized it had no business warring a great nation such as Alsace and accepted peace.
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This marks the end of my reign. Below I will post how our nation looks now along with a full view of Europe itself. Constantine looks forward to continued success!
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Thats an amazing AAR thank you. Im quite scared of going into this game now, with all the super powers surrounding us. I will really need a miracle!
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Interesting. Not even a monarchy, so no PUs, that should make expanding very hard, especially with unlawful territory on anything not cored meaning we can never really have more then 2-3 noncored provinces at once. Nice AAR.
Also, Portugal stole Granada, and the pope expanded.
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france hasnt expanded at all, things are looking bad for the blue blob with burgundy already approaching equal size. tirumids seem to be winning? in asia and castille has already taken half of north africa ;D. the only crazy thing is sweden appears to of warred denmark and absolutely destroyed them, gg no re.
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Damn fine job.
My only complaint is that you didn't trade nearly enough as you should have for your size, but nonetheless, a damn fine start.
P.S. -- Just press "y" to show your allies and vassals and shit. Much simpler than outlining everything.
On December 13 2011 21:21 Bourneq wrote:
Thats an amazing AAR thank you. Im quite scared of going into this game now, with all the super powers surrounding us. I will really need a miracle!
As I just said, I think trading is the key right now. Start bribing people to vote for you for Emperor, trade a SHIT TON to get massive dosh incomes. You could easily break 1k gold in your turn alone if you do it right. Was great expansion at first, but too much early on in the HRE as an OPM will fuck you over later on hardcore, especially with unlawful territory.
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Wow really impressive and GREAT AAR thats what i was hoping of
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On December 14 2011 00:28 Fruscainte wrote:Damn fine job. My only complaint is that you didn't trade nearly enough as you should have for your size, but nonetheless, a damn fine start. P.S. -- Just press "y" to show your allies and vassals and shit. Much simpler than outlining everything. Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 21:21 Bourneq wrote:
Thats an amazing AAR thank you. Im quite scared of going into this game now, with all the super powers surrounding us. I will really need a miracle! As I just said, I think trading is the key right now. Start bribing people to vote for you for Emperor, trade a SHIT TON to get massive dosh incomes. You could easily break 1k gold in your turn alone if you do it right. Was great expansion at first, but too much early on in the HRE as an OPM will fuck you over later on hardcore, especially with unlawful territory.
Yeah early on I simply couldn't afford to trade because of the need for an army, but after the initial war I could have definitely focused on it more and used more than just two CoTs. I wanted to expand quickly so that we'd have a chance against the blobs that are surrounding us. Alsace is probably one of the hardest countries to play because it is a theocracy, not to mention its ridiculous postition amongst super powers. However, I have faith in our TL crew to keep it strong . I agree, the focus should be getting votes to become Emperor. The next 40 years will be critical. If we can be successful through those years, then I don't think Alsace would have too much trouble after that.
Also, outlining it took about 30 seconds and I like that more than hitting "y."
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On December 14 2011 07:47 Bairemuth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 00:28 Fruscainte wrote:Damn fine job. My only complaint is that you didn't trade nearly enough as you should have for your size, but nonetheless, a damn fine start. P.S. -- Just press "y" to show your allies and vassals and shit. Much simpler than outlining everything. On December 13 2011 21:21 Bourneq wrote:
Thats an amazing AAR thank you. Im quite scared of going into this game now, with all the super powers surrounding us. I will really need a miracle! As I just said, I think trading is the key right now. Start bribing people to vote for you for Emperor, trade a SHIT TON to get massive dosh incomes. You could easily break 1k gold in your turn alone if you do it right. Was great expansion at first, but too much early on in the HRE as an OPM will fuck you over later on hardcore, especially with unlawful territory. Yeah early on I simply couldn't afford to trade because of the need for an army, but after the initial war I could have definitely focused on it more and used more than just two CoTs. I wanted to expand quickly so that we'd have a chance against the blobs that are surrounding us. Alsace is probably one of the hardest countries to play because it is a theocracy, not to mention its ridiculous postition amongst super powers. However, I have faith in our TL crew to keep it strong . I agree, the focus should be getting votes to become Emperor. The next 40 years will be critical. If we can be successful through those years, then I don't think Alsace would have too much trouble after that. Also, outlining it took about 30 seconds and I like that more than hitting "y."
Meh, I prefer just pressing the button and having it clearly color coated for you in-game than having it like that. Just my opinion though, no huge deal honestly.
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Uh I'm pretty sure non-monarchies are ineligible for Holy Roman Emperor. We'd need to change our government first, somehow.
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They are. The emperor needs to be a christian male monarch. But who wants to be emperor anyways. But i agree, trading is a good way to get money for small states, especially if they have a good Free Trade Slider, but i have no idea where that one is as Alsace.
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On December 14 2011 12:23 Simberto wrote:
They are. The emperor needs to be a christian male monarch. But who wants to be emperor anyways. But i agree, trading is a good way to get money for small states, especially if they have a good Free Trade Slider, but i have no idea where that one is as Alsace.
Our sliders are in pretty good shape for trading. Decently high free trade and plutocracy.
On December 14 2011 12:15 beef42 wrote:
Uh I'm pretty sure non-monarchies are ineligible for Holy Roman Emperor. We'd need to change our government first, somehow.
Yes, you are right. We will have to wait until government tech reaches level 27, which will allow us to change to an Absolute Monarchy. This will probably take 200+ years.
The other option is to allow ourselves to become vassalized, which will result in a change of government that is aligned with our superior. This of course, would be quite the tricky and risky process.
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Great AAR, I enjoyed reading it
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Excellent start (especially the aar), well done.
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Ill write my AAR later, very little time left. Here's the save game.
Not much happend as expected so it wont be a good aar anyway  .
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im not playing until i read your aar!
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Ok here goes, sorry for not writing an AAR untill now. Ive been sick so rarely ive got out of bed and an AAR when I did drag myself out would have been barely half hearted. But im better now so lets do it!
Alsace, the small nation in the heart of Europe that have close to nowhere to expand to. Constantine as you all know, has done the great conquest of Baden, and he is still hungry for more glorious battles. He had vassalized Wurtemberg, the last neighboring nation that does not have an alliance with a nearby supernation like Austria or Burgundy. He was heartbroken because he did not know what to do! Year after year went by and all he could do was build on what he already had. He built up Alsaces economy tremendously and reduced inflation by as much as he could. But this was not Constantines area of perfection. He was hungry for war!
One day Constantine woke up with great news. Brunswick has offered us an alliance, this was great! They will serve as cannon fodder if one of the super nations interferes with our conquests. They are positioned right above us but is not a neighbor. So they will distract Allies of whomever will draw the short straw and be crushed by our glorious forces.
Shortly thereafter a letter from Genoa arrived at out footsteps. We shall enter into their trade league! This will bring in a lot more money!
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Now Constantine still longing for power, looked for another nation to join our soon to be powerful coalition. Portugal heeded our calls and joined us! They we're powerful, after snatching Granada from Castille and expanding to the Africas they we're becoming quite powerful indeed. I realized that they will very likely not help any in wars we start but it will be scary for other nations to intervene if they will make Portugal mad.
As Constantine went to bed that day he knew that soon, very soon his empire will flourish. Constantine never woke up the next day, the gods had taken him. A sadness struck the nation like never before, the people didn't even react this bad when Wilhelm II died. But, in good news, a true king has taked his place. A direct ancestor of Wilhelm II. Wilhelm III has taken the throne!
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As a result of our nations moment of weakness as Wilhelm took the throne, the Austrians and the swizz had guaranteed us. Outrageous! How dare they think that anybody would even think of attacking us. Bah! I guess it makes the feel important..
Wilhelm shortly after getting the throne demanded Wurtenberg to be annexed into our empire. They had no choice but to accept. What will come of our empire? Nobody knows, theese are hard times in Europe and not only great leaders are needed. But great farmers, great commanders, great troops, great infrastructure. We will need every tiny advantage we can get to crush the pathetic nations around us! Hail Wilhelm III and hail Alsace!
Also I forgot to mention that we joined Portugal in a war against like half the world. But everything is too far away to threaten us witch is why I accepted.
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I love the image with the trade league proposal. Shows Austria just walking across our lands. Witch is how they see us, as a carpet... We need to crush them eventually .
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bourneq did you intend to only play 10 years of your 20 year go? :o 1399 > 1419 > but then i took over in 1428? :d
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Oh... No I missed that, but its ok. I was sick and problably wouldnt have played another 20 years anyway.
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turn is complete, aar probably not till tomorrow morning because im tired. im so pissed that we are arent a monarchy ;p stupidest idea ever!
i came across something odd, although probably intended. you cant diplo vassalise a country because you cant form a royal marriage BUT you can diplo annex countries without a royal marriage. game is so stupid
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yeah, we can only annex countries we've vassalized as part of a peace deal. Why are you so mad, I thought you people wanted it to be "hard."
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On December 15 2011 20:31 Bourneq wrote:I love the image with the trade league proposal. Shows Austria just walking across our lands. Witch is how they see us, as a carpet... We need to crush them eventually .
Haha, well I had given them military access during my rule so that they could more efficiently battle Burgundy. I figured that if Burgundy won the war, then they'd conquer Lorraine and then we'd be next in line. But yes, I'm sure Austria still thinks of us as a carpet haha. Nice AAR by the way, excpet you only ruled 10 years
On December 16 2011 06:40 turdburgler wrote:turn is complete, aar probably not till tomorrow morning because im tired. im so pissed that we are arent a monarchy ;p stupidest idea ever! i came across something odd, although probably intended. you cant diplo vassalise a country because you cant form a royal marriage BUT you can diplo annex countries without a royal marriage. game is so stupid
Hmmm...I agree it's a bit odd. I don't see why a royal marriage should be required for a diplo vassalization to begin with. Oh well, this just means we will have to wage wars to gain lands .
On December 16 2011 06:46 beef42 wrote:
yeah, we can only annex countries we've vassalized as part of a peace deal. Why are you so mad, I thought you people wanted it to be "hard."
I wouldn't generalize by saying "you people." I don't think he's the one that selected a theocracy to begin with, so he has a right to be mad
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On December 16 2011 06:46 beef42 wrote:
yeah, we can only annex countries we've vassalized as part of a peace deal. Why are you so mad, I thought you people wanted it to be "hard."
because hard is a relative idea. theres nothing hard about being an opm, inside the hre you will never be attacked unless burgundy gets a mission. the 4-5 european super powers being around are impossible to fight unless you do abusive things like war in the first year so noone has military access. you can take on as many "hard" personal quests as alsace as you can as baveria, the difference is as baveria you dont leave the game on fast forward for 2-3 years at a time :D
its worth noting that the other game only went on for ~200 years, so "we are the only big nation left" never happened. even as a strong country we still had major powerful rivals. by starting as a country in a "worse" position we are limiting the play options further while being fully aware we wont become a big blob before the end. seems country intuitive.
btw whoever said we need government 27 to change type is wrong, government 8 is all you need. 100% of income into gov tech here we come baby
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On December 16 2011 08:00 turdburgler wrote:
its worth noting that the other game only went on for ~200 years, so "we are the only big nation left" never happened. even as a strong country we still had major powerful rivals. by starting as a country in a "worse" position we are limiting the play options further while being fully aware we wont become a big blob before the end. seems country intuitive.
I'm sorry, but since when is becoming a big blob the only goal of a game in EU3. The game is essentially a sandbox game for a reason. Use your immagination. The purpose of selecting Alsace to begin with was to have a unique set of challenges that would have to be overcome, which would result in an interesting AAR that sets it apart from others. In addition, I don't see why the game has to end in 200 years anyways. Why not just let people play a 2nd turn once we've gone through the line once (last part not really directed at you).
On December 16 2011 08:00 turdburgler wrote:
btw whoever said we need government 27 to change type is wrong, government 8 is all you need. 100% of income into gov tech here we come baby
Unless you have a source to prove me otherwise, then I'm right.
http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Government#Divine_Wind
Starting as a theocracy, you cannot simply take Feudal Monarchy at government level 8; you'd have to be a despotic monarchy at the start of the game to accomplish that.
I confirmed this on the EU3 forums.
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On December 16 2011 08:26 Bairemuth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 08:00 turdburgler wrote:
its worth noting that the other game only went on for ~200 years, so "we are the only big nation left" never happened. even as a strong country we still had major powerful rivals. by starting as a country in a "worse" position we are limiting the play options further while being fully aware we wont become a big blob before the end. seems country intuitive.
I'm sorry, but since when is becoming a big blob the only goal of a game in EU3. The game is essentially a sandbox game for a reason. Use your immagination. The purpose of selecting Alsace to begin with was to have a unique set of challenges that would have to be overcome, which would result in an interesting AAR that sets it apart from others. In addition, I don't see why the game has to end in 200 years anyways. Why not just let people play a 2nd turn once we've gone through the line once (last part not really directed at you). Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 08:00 turdburgler wrote:
btw whoever said we need government 27 to change type is wrong, government 8 is all you need. 100% of income into gov tech here we come baby Unless you have a source to prove me otherwise, then I'm right. http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Government#Divine_WindStarting as a theocracy, you cannot simply take Feudal Monarchy at government level 8; you'd have to be a despotic monarchy at the start of the game to accomplish that. I confirmed this on the EU3 forums.
I'll also confirm this.
You can not just swap governments if you are a Theocracy or the Papacy.
EDIT: Why do we have maxed out everything? =/
Spend those diplomats guys. Even if it's just giving someone military access. Build dat reputation around and spend them traders yo. Don't want to wait too long before it's impossible to get in on the world trading.
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I think we should get our Plutocracy goin' and get some spies. It's just great to inject a few rebels into a newly expanded neighbor and have then burn the whole place down, after which territory will cede. That Ulm AAR linked somewhere in the mother thread shows this wonderfully.
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Meh, spies lose their flavor in my opinion quickly -- especially with how poor the nation is doing currently. Not to mention, it can quickly turn into quite an issue when someone declares on you for a discovered spy and the Emperor joins in to help them. I know I sound like a broken record, but getting some money should definitely be the top priority. Hell, doesn't even have to be boring. Find a CB and invade a rich trading power and rob them of all they got in the Peace deal. I've done it a few times as an OPM, most satisfying feeling in the world to take all the ducats some trading nation has 
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Am i mistaken, or do we now have 4 provinces of unlawful territory? That stops our expansion until the first of them core in 1460, because that is already +1 infamy/year. Our current ruler is good at diplomacy, and with the HRE bonus and maybe a diplomat one can reduce this amount to below zero, but only barely. It also bleeds our prestige really fast. I would really suggest that if you fight inside the HRE, you don't annex stuff. Vassalize everything, and maybe grab something outside of the HRE if you really want to have new territory. Uncored HRE territory is one of the worst things one can have. Sure, waiting for those 4 provinces to core might make sense now, but i really don't think we should go further down that road. We can even get subjugation CBs from missions. If you want new territory, it should be taken outside of the empire. France is not far away, if you can manage to take them down by getting a lot of other nations like burgundy involved, you can take nice juicy non-hre territory. Venice is not a member of the HRE, either.
Or do something completely different. Trade, build, shout at englishmen, whatever.
Playing a theocracy inside the HRE is surely different from playing a monarchy, but i wouldn't say it is necessarily bad. Just find something to do that does not involve Personal Unions. From what i see in that safegame, the nation is surely not doing "bad". We got some money, nearly zero inflation, and low infamy. If you hire a diplomat as an advisor, you even have some infamy to spend. Trading should be possible, we have acceptable sliders. Maybe use all those guys we have at the top of the screen for something, and everything should be fine. I also don't get where people get this idea that trading gets harder the longer the game goes on. If you have a good Free Trade Slider, low infamy and no noncored CoTs, and maybe 1-2 ideas, you can always trade. This might be true if you are some non-european country with backwards technology, but unless you lag significantly behind i have never had any problem at all.
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On December 16 2011 11:40 Simberto wrote:
you don't annex stuff. Vassalize everything,
My god this. The downsides to annexation are just too great when compared to Vassalage. I think people REALLY underestimate how powerful OPM's and TPM's can be when you have ~8 of them lined up as your Vassal/Ally.
Hint: It's more manpower and military might than you could have and sustain with those same countries annexed for yourself, and significantly lesser of a burden to control with no ULT, infamy, and revolt risk. Having 10 small countries in your vassalage can easily equal ~50k troops at your disposal at any time since they can't declare a Call to Arms. And the AI stacks them. You could literally beat fucking France with a handful of vassals if you play your cards right. I remember back in my Alsace game, I (hilariously) beat Bohemia AND Austria at the same damn time with ~20 of my vassals in like 1500. It's extremely powerful for a small nation.
And later on, when you want to expand? Cancel vassalage one at a time and declare war on the allianceless OPM's and TPM's that were yours the entire time and annex them real fast, whilst diplo annexing a few others no problem.
Not to criticize, not at all. The last few people have done a cracker jack job. We needed to move out of OPM status and get a good foothold in Europe. However, as Simberto said, we have FOUR unlawful territories with our small ass country. That just can't fly. Although I'm not in the game, I would really make the suggestion to not take ANYTHING else for a damn long time and start getting allies and vassaling shit. Once you get that web of alliances, you start getting Alliance CB's on damn near everyone with no one able to stop you.
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I didn't realize everyone here were professional EU3 players haha. Anywho, I don't think our country has to be supremely successful to develop an interesting AAR. I mean wasn't that the point of this succession game anyways...to have an awesome AAR? Sometimes failures or missteps are more interesting than complete raping success.
With that said, I do agree with the advice. And I really wish I would have changed back our initial national idea to something useful (shrewd commerce or national trade) since the stability loss would have been irrelevant as such a small nation.
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On December 16 2011 11:40 Simberto wrote:
Am i mistaken, or do we now have 4 provinces of unlawful territory? That stops our expansion until the first of them core in 1460, because that is already +1 infamy/year. Our current ruler is good at diplomacy, and with the HRE bonus and maybe a diplomat one can reduce this amount to below zero, but only barely. It also bleeds our prestige really fast. I would really suggest that if you fight inside the HRE, you don't annex stuff. Vassalize everything, and maybe grab something outside of the HRE if you really want to have new territory. Uncored HRE territory is one of the worst things one can have. Sure, waiting for those 4 provinces to core might make sense now, but i really don't think we should go further down that road. We can even get subjugation CBs from missions. If you want new territory, it should be taken outside of the empire. France is not far away, if you can manage to take them down by getting a lot of other nations like burgundy involved, you can take nice juicy non-hre territory. Venice is not a member of the HRE, either.
Or do something completely different. Trade, build, shout at englishmen, whatever.
Playing a theocracy inside the HRE is surely different from playing a monarchy, but i wouldn't say it is necessarily bad. Just find something to do that does not involve Personal Unions. From what i see in that safegame, the nation is surely not doing "bad". We got some money, nearly zero inflation, and low infamy. If you hire a diplomat as an advisor, you even have some infamy to spend. Trading should be possible, we have acceptable sliders. Maybe use all those guys we have at the top of the screen for something, and everything should be fine. I also don't get where people get this idea that trading gets harder the longer the game goes on. If you have a good Free Trade Slider, low infamy and no noncored CoTs, and maybe 1-2 ideas, you can always trade. This might be true if you are some non-european country with backwards technology, but unless you lag significantly behind i have never had any problem at all.
dont worry, unlawful isnt a problem after my go x)
i cant believe that chart saying theocracy is even more stupid than i thought oh well all the time i put into governement tech will get us another idea sooner :p cant complain
aar will be up in a few hours!
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Annexing is what true leaders do.
Vassaling is what burocrat pansies do.
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In the year of 1428, the great ruler of Alsace, Wilhelm the third awoke with a shock. His ambitions of becoming one of the great emperors of the world had blinded him. His military expansion had put him on a road to an inevitable war with the Austrians who, with the backing of the roman empire, would be an insurmountable foe.
He knew his only way to avoid conflict with them would be to befriend them while still considered a minor power. He must, for the time being abandon his military, and engage in diplomacy in order to secretly gain power within the empire Springing a trap for the great Germanic nations that they would never see coming. He told his government to abandon their military ideologies and to concentrate on increasing the wealth and power of the small state.
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In order to avoid the ire of the emperor, the archbishop realised he would have to put a puppet back on the throne of those who he had previously conquered. it was not what he wanted, but he was fully aware that for the time being he could not hope to defend his country if the emperor decided to do his duty and reclaim those lands.
The Archbishop felt that God would prefer him to unite the people in a peaceful way, saving devout lives would of been of utmost importance, so it came as a great shock when war engulfed most of europe in the year 1438. The treacherous Bavarians had somehow claimed the imperial thrown, the turmoil would engulf the region in war for almost a decade.
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He knew this must be a divine test from God. an opportunity must be out there, Alsace would summon a new mercenary army and expand his influence while the foolish Germans were battling each other.
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The Austrians, who had pledged to defend the minor duchies while they were still holding the position of emperor were unable to fulfill their promises. Their tiny army of reinforcements could not cross the mountain ranges of south Alsace without facing annihilation and the mighty army of God, led by Wilhelm himself emerged victorious forcing peace with the world later that year.
Content that he had passed Gods test Wilhelm returned to his peaceful policies of trading and diplomacy, awaiting the next divine opportunity to expand his power.
our realm, and the world
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Just to clarify, have you informed the next in line? That is your job now in the new set of "Simberto is lazy"-rules.
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i didnt, but noone informed me either i just... you know, read the thread :D
edit: done it now
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Did you put Ansbach and Mainz in your Vassalage or are they simply Allies?
Nicely done spreading Christendom, nonetheless!
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On December 16 2011 23:28 Fruscainte wrote:
Did you put Ansbach and Mainz in your Vassalage or are they simply Allies?
Nicely done spreading Christendom, nonetheless!
vassels, look at the screenshot!
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Ups... That is all i can say
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The successful era of Wilhelm III was coming to an end. Last years of his reign were peaceful and quite successful. He managed to increase trade value, Some treaties were signed with lesser countries inside HRE. He didn`t suppose, that good and prosperous times were coming to an end, and dark clouds were gathering stronger and stronger upon country of Alsace.
In a year 1452 Wilhelm died. A new Archbishop started to rule - Kuno II. With superior military skills whole country hoped to see some new territorial gains. However, as history later showed that never happened.
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With some diplomacy experiance, Kuno tried to aquire new allies for his future wars. But all his efforts were unsuccessful. He decided to join some minor war with Portugal against Mammluks. He didn`t saw that he was not the only one. Bavaria joined the war as well. They were allied with Portugal too! When he figured that out his hair changed from brown to white! Alsace was surrounded with foes. Austria, France and Switzerland told us that they guarantee our independence, but in fact - they were laughing behind our backs.
Kuno was desperate to find some real allies. He joined another war with Portugal, against Algiers, he supported Austrian emperor in HRE reform. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NDQDJ.jpg)
Alsace was unlucky in trade either. We lost almost all merchants in Europe. Kuno decided to change a bit policy. He moved trade slider towards free trade. With that move a new advisor appeared. Although, Alsace was almost broke and could not afford him. So he took loan. Just few months after he spent all money available, the worst nightmare turnout to be true.
Bavaria declared war on our Vassal - Ansbach. We took over leadership in this war. But the case was lost before it even begun. There were more great countries on our enemy side. Traitors Portugal, Switzerland, and some small HRE countries. Kuno II had to take another loan, form army and lead them to fight. However it was to late, and our forces where no match against our rivals. More than 20.000 troops invaded Alsace and our allies, and we could do nothing to stop them. All our fights were lost, our land occupied, and our peace offers rejected. We were waiting for the worst. We had to surrender to Augsburg and Switzerland, losing our vassals. The only good thing was that we gained cores on our provinces.
But hopefully, that worst never came. Bavaria and their allies were satisfied with annexing our vassals (Brunschwick and Ansbach). So their peace offer was more than generous. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OIkxz.jpg)
The war was lost, our country was broke. To fulfill this reign of upsets, heretics rebels took control over Breisgau. Kuno decided to call another army. But his army was to weak. He was defeated twice, so he decided to detach siege in Breisgau, while Heretic rebels decided to do the same in our capital. The next day after this decision, Kuno II was found dead in his bed. There war rumours, that he committed suicide, but nobody had any prove.
New Archbishop was someway blessed. His diplomacy and military skills were not that good. But he had what Kuno was lacking - LUCK. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/c6gFh.jpg)
Heretics took over our capital just before we were able to regain control of Breisgau. And just like that - they now were on our side! We gained almost 6k man and quite good leader! Franz Egon decided to repair our budget and trade. He extended loan, maxed trasury for one year. Although we gained almost 1 inflation point we were able to repay loans. With this move - we successfully completed mission - "repay loans" and reduced our inflation to 0. We had some event where we gained some cash, and adopted National Trade as new idea. With this we were able to send more merchants and compete in more COTS.
Although international situation was quite bad ( very powerful neighbours, no friendly boarders and real threat from Bavaria and Burgundy) Franz Egon started to dream about conquest....
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On December 16 2011 14:14 Bairemuth wrote:
I didn't realize everyone here were professional EU3 players haha. Anywho, I don't think our country has to be supremely successful to develop an interesting AAR. I mean wasn't that the point of this succession game anyways...to have an awesome AAR? Sometimes failures or missteps are more interesting than complete raping success.
With that said, I do agree with the advice. And I really wish I would have changed back our initial national idea to something useful (shrewd commerce or national trade) since the stability loss would have been irrelevant as such a small nation.
HOW DO YOU PREDICT THE FUTURE
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That`s it. It was really fun, but not easy to play. I hope you can fix us internationally.
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On December 17 2011 04:11 Stolat wrote:That`s it. It was really fun, but not easy to play. I hope you can fix us internationally.
its cool! only caller rages on people for making mistakes
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Way more interesting than a straight line to world domination- good job! Also <3 heretics.
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Holy fuck -85 prestige?
Jesus Christ people O_O
This is like, the only time I recommend an Artist, my lord. LOL
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Holy shit. Haha...this game is looking awesomely interesting. On the bright side, we now have 3 cored provinces. Burgundy is in full rape mode atm as well. They seem unstoppable. Looks like Lorraine is finally going down after 70 years!
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Comback now is going to be very hard xD. But intresting!
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On December 17 2011 06:34 Bourneq wrote:
Comback now is going to be very hard xD. But intresting!
Pah!
Nonsense!
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look France - that is upset :D
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On December 17 2011 07:20 Stolat wrote:
look France - that is upset :D
France is nice to OPM's in the Empire.
Burgundy just doesn't give a fuck.
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It'd be really nice if everyone could include a "the world at the end of my turn" screeny. Stuff's so interesting...
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yeah sure forgot abot that
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OH MY LORDY
DAT BRITTANY
UKRAINE HWAITING~
PISA NOT GIVING A FUCK - COMING TO A BALKAN PENINSULA NEAR YOU
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aragon making a comback and that stupid part of castille has been released. aragon at war with castille again aswell, looks like its the end of the yellow blob, until aragon forms spain that is, long live the yellow blob!. burgundy already ripping brittany a new one, will probably just release states who will realign with france soon enough. golden horde beat hungary AGAIN. but its only 1 more province till they meat austria which is basically gg for them.
predictions
granada or some africans get released as christian monarchies and before the end of the game becomes the emperor at some point.
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Also intersting how bohemia isn't going anywhere. Awesome map.
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GH is only 1 province from Austria, expect a white asia soon.
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The year is 1468. Archbishop Franz Egon I is brooding in his chamber over a map of Alsace and the lost territory of Wurttemberg. Franz Egon is old, blind and half senile but he still remember the defeat against Bavaria.
This should be his downfall, he refused to eat, drink or even talk to his fellow men. Every day was spend praying to god and every night full of nightmares.
Within a year he was dead and another Archbishop took his place:
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Archbishop Louis René I
He was a young and energetic man and dreamed of the day that Alsace might unite the land of men under the flag of god.
But he knew that it would not be an easy task.
He gave his advisor's a mission, accumulate money.
While they scraped together all the gold they could, for the glory of Alsace, the old Austrian Emperor died and the Holy Roman Empire got a Bohemian Emperor:
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Ludvik II of Bohemia
Soon the mission that Louis René gave his advisor's was completed. But the Archbishop had a revalation, Lorraine was a threat, so his trusted advisor's got a new mission:
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Let the army grow.
That was soon accomplished and we now stood a better chance in a eventual war against Lorraine, the Archbishop then got another revelation, Lorraine was not the threat!
If they aren't the threat he thought he might make them our friends and he told his diplomatic advisor to send and envoy to Lorraine:
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That night the Archbishop dreamt that the army of Trier would pour over Alsace:
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The build-up of the army would continue.
An advisor died and a new took his place, he was a trader of heart and knew how to handle merchants, he thought it might be a good idea to pass a liqour act:
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It would give Louis René more gold for arms.
Soon thereafter steps was made to embrace more free trade
Other steps was made to revitalize to country, the bureaucracy was expanded and there was formalized a standard for scales and weight:
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A new national idea spread through the country:
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With this Louis René found that he could afford to send merchants to nearly all the known center of trades in Europe and soon gold began to flow into Alsace's coffers.
With this new found gold his advisor's advised him to begin building armouries in all the provinces.
Year went by a then one day a noble family from a northern province was granted control of their local church in exchange for a small donation to the state:
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Then one day an diplomat begged an audience with the Archbishop, Wurttemberg was at war with Austria!
Louis saw his chance, he declared war on Wurttemberg, his new grand army marched over the border and soon took control of the major cities in Wurttemberg.
Peace was soon reached and Wurttemberg was happy to become a vassal yet again:
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Louis René was now a happy man, he had control of the long lost Wurttemberg and he saw a bright future for Alsace.
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My term is done. Not much happened, we got back Wurttemberg as a vassal.
We are maxes in free trade and got a new national idea.
Our army is double the size it was when I started.
Britany is leading a personal union with England but it seems they are going to lose big time to Burgendy.
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I think the next step should be to gang up on Bavaria with our vassal and allies, we could take them!
Burgundy and Austria is someone we have to deal with at 1 point but I can't see how at the moment.
Timurids had nearly all of northern Africa but is now crumbling
nttea your turn, PM send
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On December 17 2011 09:57 Simberto wrote:
GH is only 1 province from Austria, expect a white asia soon.
I always giggle when I'm playing Austria and I see that fateful message.
EDIT: Oh damn, just as I post next part is posted. Reading now!
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is it just me that prefers the diplo map rather than political map for end of turn screenshots? you cant actually see who are your vassels unless they all form a nice line for your name to run through ;(
on another note, i told you all castille would get fucked again and they would release granada ;d and austria is raping GH
granada as emperor you heard it here first
tunisia also got released which should mean its now a christian monarchy.
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Okay so let me get this straight. You got traders into almost every CoT so far, got us our Vassal back, and got our Prestige from -85 up to -17 in that short of time? Well fucking played sir, well god damn played.
Now excuse me while I freak out a bit.
OH FUCK LOOK AT THAT AUSTRIA. SHIT SON, PREPARE YOUR ANUS ASIA BECAUSE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET FUCKED.
ARAGON JUST NOT FUCKING AROUND WITH CASTILLE AND INFIDELS ALIKE.
WILLIAM WALLACE FUCKING UP THE ENGLISH
BYZATIUM MAKING A COMBACK
DAT FRANCE OPM
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prestige was a shit during my turn, too weak to war people and 2 unlawful provinces for -2 per second. i think now all provinces are cores it just rises automatically as a member of the hre.
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On December 17 2011 10:07 turdburgler wrote:
prestige was a shit during my turn, too weak to war people and 2 unlawful provinces for -2 per second. i think now all provinces are cores it just rises automatically as a member of the hre.
Shhh, it's all actually your fault.
Now don't let Switzerland fool you next person! It may be only 4 provinces, but behind those nice, beautiful mountains is a 20 stack of troops with all mountain region making it nigh impossible to do jack shit against! Although, in the long run, Switzerland should be a primary goal. Not too many allies, very rich, and probably the best defensive terrain in the entire game.
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On December 17 2011 10:08 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 10:07 turdburgler wrote:
prestige was a shit during my turn, too weak to war people and 2 unlawful provinces for -2 per second. i think now all provinces are cores it just rises automatically as a member of the hre. Shhh, it's all actually your fault.
i know i think next time we play we should do some unlawful strat + glorious navy and hunt pirates for prestige
i think people not burning magistrates to raise cultural tradition, even if its just to sell advisors is going to give me a headache soon :D getting 17 ducats for an advisor you couldnt even afford to pay as an opm is imba
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Wait, you can deliberately sell advisers?
The fuck, I never knew this.
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^_^ i am taking over! will probably do all this in one go so it shouldn't be too long but we will see
On December 17 2011 10:13 Fruscainte wrote:
Wait, you can deliberately sell advisers?
The fuck, I never knew this.
well, any advisor you create or gets generated in your territory gets you money if bought by another nation (which happens almost all the time)
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On December 17 2011 10:16 nttea wrote:
^_^ i am taking over! will probably do all this in one go so it shouldn't be too long but we will see
Take your time writing it though, love good reads
But yet I ask again.
I had no god damn idea you could deliberately sell advisers. Shit man, that's awesome. Not that I ever really have a use for it, but that's really useful to have if I ever do an OPM game.
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I would like to participate if I can, if not this one, then the next one, obviously. I love paradox's games like Victoria, and Eu3, have a lot of hours logged for both and would definitely be interested.
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the phrase "if you dont hire them within a year they will seek work elsewhere" isnt meaningless :D
6 ducats a year in tax, 16 from advisors np np
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On December 17 2011 10:24 DeepBlu2 wrote:
I would like to participate if I can, if not this one, then the next one, obviously. I love paradox's games like Victoria, and Eu3, have a lot of hours logged for both and would definitely be interested.
Sure, you can sign up until the list is full until 1820 or until the last person is playing. I put you on the list.
On another topic, it would me nice if the people would mention in their posts if they have noticed the next in line, because if you don't, i always worry that you didn't.
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Wait, did Lubeck take like half of Denmarks territory or are my eyes deceiving me?
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I truly did write up alot of stuff ... then accidentally hit a key that made it all dissapear... i have no fucking idea how it could have happened normally i just press back on my browser and it's all there but now it's gone will be a much shorter recap of the events im sorry guys i just can't make myself write it with good feeling again.
Doing some renaissance stuff after hiring a philosopher to get our presige up
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VqthB.jpg)
england is still ruled by the king of brittany:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Ddhkz.jpg)
Würtemberg getting diplo annexed and re released after mission:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NY7z4.jpg)
should have been giant wall of text here explaining preparations of war n shit, bohemia was very busy with other wars and bavaria itself getting rolled by burgundy so i thought this was a good idea, considering he managed to rally all his allies maybe not so good idea.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9NOqF.jpg)
even more text explaining our dire situation and losing a massive army of mercenaries to the bohemians, do i dare face them again with my remaining forces?
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RKbpG.jpg)
the battles following!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/W43sj.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/y8DOQ.jpg)
Now i want to give a poll as to how to proceed, because how i proceed in this war could change the course of the game alot. war already cost us a bit of inflation, and going on could turn things worse, then again we might not get as good opportunity for strengthening our position as this in a long while
Poll: What course of action should we take?Minor expansion, take a territory or two from bavaria to release as vassals, expanding = trouble (5) 56% Press for total victory against bavaria!, make them release nations and take some for ourselves (2) 22% Press for total victory against both bavaria and bohemia, expensive and risky but no pain no gain! (2) 22% Consolidate, we showed them what we're made of that's enough! (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: What course of action should we take? (Vote): Press for total victory against bavaria!, make them release nations and take some for ourselves
(Vote): Press for total victory against both bavaria and bohemia, expensive and risky but no pain no gain!
(Vote): Minor expansion, take a territory or two from bavaria to release as vassals, expanding = trouble
(Vote): Consolidate, we showed them what we're made of that's enough!
ALSO! if you are writing alot of text like i did, do it in a text file then copy it into your forum post! common sense i lacked.
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if baveria has cores on anything you keep as a vassel, you need to crush them so hard they cant fight you. if they dont have cores they will never attempt to take them back
if u take what will become trier and the palintinate they shouldnt have cores on them yet.
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For the record, just crop out the combat results from your pictures. Far easier on loading times and easier on the eyes.
Nonetheless, very well done! Going for "total victory" on Bavaria is a terrible idea with our size. Just do what you can. Release vassals (countries too, gets you free allies), take land (but not TOO much, ULT is a bitch) and we're solid. They were our biggest threat.
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On December 17 2011 12:16 Fruscainte wrote:
For the record, just crop out the combat results from your pictures. Far easier on loading times and easier on the eyes.
Nonetheless, very well done! Going for "total victory" on Bavaria is a terrible idea with our size. Just do what you can. Release vassals (countries too, gets you free allies), take land (but not TOO much, ULT is a bitch) and we're solid. They were our biggest threat.
I'm not sure what crop out means but i guess just cut out the battle results part from the pictures and post them instead? it's a good idea
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On December 17 2011 12:35 nttea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 12:16 Fruscainte wrote:
For the record, just crop out the combat results from your pictures. Far easier on loading times and easier on the eyes.
Nonetheless, very well done! Going for "total victory" on Bavaria is a terrible idea with our size. Just do what you can. Release vassals (countries too, gets you free allies), take land (but not TOO much, ULT is a bitch) and we're solid. They were our biggest threat. I'm not sure what crop out means but i guess just cut out the battle results part from the pictures and post them instead? it's a good idea
Precisely!
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In my opinion, but i don't really have enough oversight, you should get out of this war while it is still favourable. Those other wars they are in will end some time in the future, and if you don't have units in each of their territories at that time, they will destroy you. Thus, grab as much as you can while it still looks good. But that is just my take on the situation, do whatever you like.
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On December 17 2011 13:01 Simberto wrote:
In my opinion, but i don't really have enough oversight, you should get out of this war while it is still favourable. Those other wars they are in will end some time in the future, and if you don't have units in each of their territories at that time, they will destroy you. Thus, grab as much as you can while it still looks good. But that is just my take on the situation, do whatever you like.
I'm clearly no pro -- but in my experience, every time where I've had to sit down and ask myself to settle or to go all in for victory, 100% of the time when I go for the latter it turns out worse than if I just settled. We're too small for a drawn out war.
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wow i already love this game people comitted into it, 3 AARs in one day - nice
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i think the biggest threat is Burgundy for us - so you should perhaps avoid having long boarder with them
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After securing peace with Bavaria and Bohemia, we aquired the former territories of trier, the palatinate and mainz. To avoid complications with the emperor i promptly released them as vassals
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i spent the following years putting down inflation acquired from the minting i had to do to pay for all the mercenaries, as well as improving infrastructure mainly in the form of military buildings to increase our available manpower. As time passed by quickly and all was going well, i was happy to feel as if i would pass on this nation with lots of good opportunities for our next player in line. Inflation and infamy was reaching 0, prestige had skyrocketed during this time, economy was just as strong as before,we had acquired additional territory and vassals and our closest rival bavaria had gotten crushed into the ground... Or so i thought.
On Sunday 13th, October 1507 bavaria declared war on our vassal the palatinate, their forces together with their supporting allies numbered over 60thousand! the main portion of which belonged to Bavaria itself, including 2000 cannons. On our side stood 20thousand men of Alsace's and loyal vassals, the numbers painted a grim picture but surely we had overcome those odds before? In our last war the numbers had been even more in favour of the enemy and we had prevailed and then some.
The reason the last war was won so handily last time around had to do with a number of favorable circumstances, Bavaria's main portion of army had already been defeated by burgundy, and in the later stages they had been attacked by additional enemies, meanwhile the only assistance they had gotten from the mighty bohemian emperor had been a paltry troop of 14k men, on account of Bohemia being held up in the east by the golden horde. Even bigger than this factor was that our army consisted mainly of top modern landsknechten infantry while Bavaria and Bohemia still held on to aged medieval equipment and organization, giving us the upper hand in battles. Neither of these factors still hold true, we are still a few years away from being able to employ effective gunpowder infantry and Bavaria has shed itself of the old ways.
I fought this war for a couple of years but it is now time for me to hand the power over, i felt a decision to empty the coffers in an attempt to overwhelm the bavarian army was not my decision to make so i was content merely holding them off as best i could attempting to bleed them out, it does not seem to have been very successful so far and if anyone is looking to bleed out right now its us, Still our traders are bringing in the cash so we have the ability to raise massive mercenary armies should we choose to.
I decided to end with a map of europe i think this is one of the messiest one's i've seen and i have never had pretty everywhere reach ahistorical results everywhere to this level before, are we playing on furious? England is still controlled by the ruler of Brittany by the way but it shouldn't last seeing as how england is now protestant. I always love seeing byzantium survive and this time around they are even catholic. The timurids have taken over alexandria and they refuse to open their markets to me, apparently them being a horde means only the only way in is with a battering ram.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uACvH.jpg)
save is here: http://www.mediafire.com/?tqw51pdw213od1z
and i pm'd beef42 to take over! good luck to him^_^
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wow nice map :D
and great job, i like that we are not steamrolling and pwning this game that easily like in game with Sicilly
I think we can even consider to play "2nd turn" everyone with Alsace
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Hey guys, I'm unable to play EU3 atm because of COMPLETE COMPUTER MELTDOWN. For this reason I am unable to claim my turn at this point. I'm PMing fofa2000 as he's next in line, hoping he'll be able to play. In a few days everything will be in order and I can do my turn.
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Sorry I'll not be able to play my turn, anyone can take my place, have fun!
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Very interesting game so far, I love the read
I have never played EU3, but I did a fair amount of EU2. What is this thing about Austria and GH that is bound to happen if they should share a border?
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On December 18 2011 01:29 polluxtby wrote:Very interesting game so far, I love the read I have never played EU3, but I did a fair amount of EU2. What is this thing about Austria and GH that is bound to happen if they should share a border?
Austria is bound to win war after war against them, slowly eating them up.
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On December 18 2011 01:57 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 01:29 polluxtby wrote:Very interesting game so far, I love the read I have never played EU3, but I did a fair amount of EU2. What is this thing about Austria and GH that is bound to happen if they should share a border? Austria is bound to win war after war against them, slowly eating them up.
Why do they hate GH? Can't we be just one happy familly?
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On December 18 2011 01:57 Yurie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 01:29 polluxtby wrote:Very interesting game so far, I love the read I have never played EU3, but I did a fair amount of EU2. What is this thing about Austria and GH that is bound to happen if they should share a border? Austria is bound to win war after war against them, slowly eating them up.
"slowly"
Hah, good joke.
On December 18 2011 02:13 polluxtby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 01:57 Yurie wrote:On December 18 2011 01:29 polluxtby wrote:Very interesting game so far, I love the read I have never played EU3, but I did a fair amount of EU2. What is this thing about Austria and GH that is bound to happen if they should share a border? Austria is bound to win war after war against them, slowly eating them up. Why do they hate GH? Can't we be just one happy familly?
No one is allowed to be friends with GH.
They're that fat kid on the playground who pushes everyone around, and eventually, they just all jump up on him and beat the fuck out of him at the end of recess.
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Wait, shit son.
We're jumping into high gear. 600 ducats, 90 prestige, no infamy, fuckin' hell yo.
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So who is claiming spot now?
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On December 18 2011 03:14 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 01:57 Yurie wrote:On December 18 2011 01:29 polluxtby wrote:Very interesting game so far, I love the read I have never played EU3, but I did a fair amount of EU2. What is this thing about Austria and GH that is bound to happen if they should share a border? Austria is bound to win war after war against them, slowly eating them up. "slowly" Hah, good joke. Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 02:13 polluxtby wrote:On December 18 2011 01:57 Yurie wrote:On December 18 2011 01:29 polluxtby wrote:Very interesting game so far, I love the read I have never played EU3, but I did a fair amount of EU2. What is this thing about Austria and GH that is bound to happen if they should share a border? Austria is bound to win war after war against them, slowly eating them up. Why do they hate GH? Can't we be just one happy familly? No one is allowed to be friends with GH. They're that fat kid on the playground who pushes everyone around, and eventually, they just all jump up on him and beat the fuck out of him at the end of recess.
its more like GH is the big dumb bully but when everyone else grows up and learns karate the idiot bully is still being a moron and gets beaten up. austria is like the son of the rich guy in town.
we have 600 ducats imo, we should start our own centre of trade!
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On December 18 2011 04:04 Stolat wrote:
So who is claiming spot now?
I guess I am after all, since nobody seems quick to take it. I'm probably going need to another day before producing an AAR. We were moving at a brisk pace, and I didn't want to ruin that.
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or conquer Liguria or Venice instead :D
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On December 18 2011 04:25 Stolat wrote:
or conquer Liguria or Venice instead :D
Yeah I'm sure that'll turn out well.
Owning a CoT is overrated if you don't own every other single one already anyways. Not to mention, in our position, everyone else will have everyone in trade leagues already and have trade deals with them and shit. I prefer making CoT's in the new world or simply conquering existing rich ones in Europe.
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On December 18 2011 04:45 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 04:25 Stolat wrote:
or conquer Liguria or Venice instead :D Yeah I'm sure that'll turn out well. Owning a CoT is overrated if you don't own every other single one already anyways. Not to mention, in our position, everyone else will have everyone in trade leagues already and have trade deals with them and shit. I prefer making CoT's in the new world or simply conquering existing rich ones in Europe.
its about the roleplay! how can you be a prestigious nation if people dont even come to trade in your capital. the population growth from a cot is underrated too.
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On December 18 2011 05:53 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 04:45 Fruscainte wrote:On December 18 2011 04:25 Stolat wrote:
or conquer Liguria or Venice instead :D Yeah I'm sure that'll turn out well. Owning a CoT is overrated if you don't own every other single one already anyways. Not to mention, in our position, everyone else will have everyone in trade leagues already and have trade deals with them and shit. I prefer making CoT's in the new world or simply conquering existing rich ones in Europe. its about the roleplay! how can you be a prestigious nation if people dont even come to trade in your capital. the population growth from a cot is underrated too.
How can you be a prestigious nation if you allow others to reap the rewards of trade.
Conquer everyone and destroy their CoT's I say! We shall own the only one in all of Europe! The world shall come to trade with us and us alone!
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Fruscainte, you seem to be involved in this game - why you didn`t signup for it yet?
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I'd be up for a turn in this, also some pix and words as well.
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On December 18 2011 05:58 Stolat wrote:
Fruscainte, you seem to be involved in this game - why you didn`t signup for it yet?
I can't play vanilla EU3 right now and I'm already invested in my own AAR(s) and personal games, so I'd rather not give myself yet another commitment
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I suck at reading, apparently beef42 claimed the spot, so this post is completely useless.
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On December 18 2011 06:11 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 05:58 Stolat wrote:
Fruscainte, you seem to be involved in this game - why you didn`t signup for it yet? I can't play vanilla EU3 right now and I'm already invested in my own AAR(s) and personal games, so I'd rather not give myself yet another commitment
Is there a link to these AAR's? I would love to read them.
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On December 18 2011 09:55 Drolla wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 06:11 Fruscainte wrote:On December 18 2011 05:58 Stolat wrote:
Fruscainte, you seem to be involved in this game - why you didn`t signup for it yet? I can't play vanilla EU3 right now and I'm already invested in my own AAR(s) and personal games, so I'd rather not give myself yet another commitment Is there a link to these AAR's? I would love to read them.
It's in his blogs. Also beefy, we're not really in a hurry just take your time
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Since people are too lazy, and Fruiscante too modest to link that AAR-in-progress, here it is.
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On December 18 2011 15:20 Simberto wrote:Since people are too lazy, and Fruiscante too modest to link that AAR-in-progress, here it is.
hey! i might be lazy but i was trying to help him help himself
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On December 18 2011 16:20 nttea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 15:20 Simberto wrote:Since people are too lazy, and Fruiscante too modest to link that AAR-in-progress, here it is. hey! i might be lazy but i was trying to help him help himself
On December 10 2011 09:36 Drolla wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 03:33 Monsen wrote:
Drolla from Scotland- sounds like a good starting plan! Fight for the freedom of oppressed people all over the world! Keep the redcoats at bay, face the challenges of competing with the major trade leagues- help the smaller nations against the big bullies!
Braveheart II - The Rise of Drolla !
Don't worry if you're not that experienced a player as you have plenty of time to ask for advice during your turn and noone expects pro play anyway- last succesion game showed that very efficient, dominance oriented play leads to major boredom in the later stages of the game.
edit: Yeah, your AAR skills (and willingness) are way more important than your game expertise. Thank you, you've made me feel like a princess. <3 But still won't participate.
*snigger*
On a serious note, is anybody responsible for playing right now ? I think we're off track.
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If i didn't completely misunderstand everything, beef42 is playing at the moment.
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You guuuuuyyyyssss, I PM'd him where to find it because I didn't want to fill up the thread with irrelevant links about myself
And yeah, Beef42 is up. Quite weird having 3 in a day and now back to normal though.
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Been gone for like 4 days and came back to some impressive stuff. Great to see our nation still going strong
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go go go we need more action
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Beef needs to hurry so I can get on with most likely screwing up our nation D:
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Is anybody enforcing the time limit rule?
December 18 2011 04:25 was when the last player started his/her turn.
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I'm really sorry for this, but christmas is being really hectic for me this year. I know I probably should've posted sooner, but I thought I'd find a little time, and now I'm done I'm too tired to really do this to my satisfaction. Please let the show go on. I think anyone can just claim the spot now.
Again sorry to default like this.
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Ok, since the claim went unclaimed, and now noone has claimed the spot, it is completely open for grabs. Whoever posts first after this post can have it.
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Mine!
I'll play the 20 years and have the writeup done tomorrow (most likely)
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Well this turned to hell in a handbasket quickly.
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Actually I just remembered that I have to leave early tomorrow QQ Somebody else can have it
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Blows me away that people sign up to do something but don't follow through =/
Someone else should stand up, I just almost feel compelled to jump in. But I really don't want the time so I don't want to guarantee anything. Just come on people, don't make a commitment to something -- even on the internet -- if you can't follow through.
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i dont mind playing a second turn just to keep the ball rolling? or we could just start the list from the start then see who is available when we get back to this position again
idk
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Ok, since noone grabbed it, i will take it. That actually works pretty good for me since i won't have a Pc that can run EU3 for the next two weeks, and apparently my turn would otherwise come during that time.
So: MINE
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Small spoiler: I am massacring bavarian fools:
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I just had an idea. Would someone be interested in me streaming the rest of my play? Though i can't 100% guarantee that it works.
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WTF... Are the bavarians trying to bodycheck you to death while your firing with machineguns at them? :p
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It sure feels like it. The power of Land Tech 18.
Anyways, if someone is interested, i will be streaming the rest of my play here:
http://de.twitch.tv/simberto#/w/1538712048
But the quality is not the best. It worked better some months ago, but apparently something changed in the meantime and now it is worse.
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I would check out the stream. I don't know how entertaining watching EU3 would be though. I might get bored fast :-)
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Yes, i try to get it working at the moment, but apparently something broke.
Should be working now, will now get back to playing.
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No volume
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i have the stream open now :d
noob you have money but arent trading?!!? GOSH THIS IS SO BAD
also, i find your lack of generals disturbing ;d
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On December 22 2011 22:27 Pondo wrote:No volume
Yes, apparently you need additional programs for that. Anyways, EU3 Sound is not THAT exciting.
Also, what is that about not trading and no generals? I am trading the shit out of europe. I am just too lazy to drive everyone out of some CoT to gain all the moneys. And i have generals in major battles, they just sometimes die and i don't really need them for sieging anyways.
Will start writing, meanwhile here is the savegame:
http://www.mediafire.com/?x402f8svfu9vscl
I am soooo scared of Giant HRE Burgundy.
Next in line is 3Form, please claim your spot.
Edit: Actually, i will start writing in some hours, i need to go and buy stuff now.
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if you declare war on trier you can vassilise ansbach without burgundy joining, even if you wont get the -2 infamy from the mission, moar vassels is still good D:
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I know you are good for it simberto but i still think as a general rule we shouldn't post savegame until aar is done and posted; since it would make more sense to continue from old save if the aar doesn't get posted.
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Righto, I'm ready to play - downloading the save game now!
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On December 23 2011 02:10 nttea wrote:
I know you are good for it simberto but i still think as a general rule we shouldn't post savegame until aar is done and posted; since it would make more sense to continue from old save if the aar doesn't get posted.
You are correct, that would make much more sense as a general rule.
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1509 - 1517 : The Bavarian Wars
In the January of the year 1509, fear ruled the streets of Strasbourg. The war was going bad. Already most of the lands of the few allies who kept true to archbishop Louis René I, were occupied by bavarian troops, and the stories told by the numerous refugees fleeing those lands were horrifying. The Bavarian mercenaries raped, pillaged, burned and murdered seemingly at will. Mainz and Stuttgart were smoldering ruins. King Philipp Moritz I von Wittelsbach of Bavaria was still enraged about the humiliating loss his troops had suffered in the last war, and let his troops sack the captured cities at will, to make sure that they would never again oppose him.
And those troops were now marching onto Alsacian ground, and they were numerous. There were three well-armed bavarians ready to fight for their piece of the plunder for every alsacian men-at-arms.
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And Louis René I was no longer the man he was just ten years ago. He was growing old, and weary. During the meetings with his councillors, he often fell asleep or started to ramble incoherently. At one notable instance, he started calling the wife of a swiss merchant whom he had never met before "Maria" and apologized over and over for leaving her alone. The merchant and his wife left the court deeply insulted.
The bishops advisors tried to keep matters of state going as best as possible, but there was a very real power vacuum at the very top. Noone wanted to take the responsibility for making a bad choice, and so everything besides basic statesmenship was just ignored for the most part. This included the army, which luckily was led by a competent general and veteran of many wars, Franz de Dornach. Only his excellent leadership prevented the bavarian lion from swallowing the alsacian stork for the two years the war had lasted so far.
After long consideration, Archbishop Louis René gave most of his authority to his protegé, a young and devout man by the name of Gottfried Müller during one of his brighter moments, which grew fewer and fewer. Müller had served the Archbishop for all his life, and was very familiar with the workings of the Alsacian state.
After analyzing the situation, Müller came to the conclusion that Alsace would never be able to win this war, and that the Bavarian King knew the same. But having heard the tales of destruction from Mainz and Stuttgart, he also knew that surrender was no option. He needed to somehow convince von Wittelsbach that he needed to end the war right now. But how could he do that? Then he had an idea.
Franz de Dornach was ordered to circumvent the bavarian siege of Konstanz, and charge the enemy troops in Mainz and Pfalz with the full force of his troops, while hiding any coats of Arms he would usually proudly display in battle. Müller started to aquire multiple bottles of fine wines, and sent many loyal couriers westwards under order to hide in the french forests for some weeks, and then return. Also, he hired a private tutor from Paris to help him improve his french. Then, he left Strasbourg hidden in the trunk of a merchants cart, and spent two weeks in an inn in Dijon.
All of this was meant to paint a very specific picture for the Bavarian master of spies. It was a well-known fact during that time that Louis-Joseph I, the duke of Burgundy, loved only one thing more than a rare wine. And that was expanding his power. The Bavarian King was now forced to assume that the naive Gottfried Müller was trying to sell alsace to Louis-Joseph I as a payment for assistance in this war. This would mean that Bavaria shares a Border with a now even more powerful Burgundy, definitively something that von Wittelsbach wanted to prevent at any cost.
And so, even though they were winning the war, von Wittelsbach agreed to a peace that consisted of only a single demand:
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The war had finally ended. All throughout Alsace, the people rejoiced. The generous peace was generally attributed to some kind of genius-level diplomacy by Gottfried Müller, who was now the de-facto ruler of Alsace, since Louis René barely even left his room anymore.
The pope, who had already feared that he would lose the lands of Alsace to the Bavarian claims, was very happy to see them kept as the churchs property. Even though there had been very heated debates regarding the traditional Alsacian methods of giving a lot of power to the burghers, these same freedoms made it the ideal place for a council on how to deal with the reformation that was spreading like a wildfire throughout europe. Many of the problems that the church had, like absantee bishops, had never even appeared here. Choosing Freiburg for such an important meeting brought great fame to the diozese of Alsace.
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But Gottfried Müller knew that the peace would not last. It was only a matter of time until the Bavarian king would realize that there was never an agreement with Burgundy, and continue to pursue his dubious claims onto the churchs land in Alsace. He knew that he would never be able to match the Bavarians in pure manpower, and the unreliability of mercenaries had been a constant problem in the previous wars.
But the smarts and ingeneuity of the Alsacian traders had filled the treasury of the diozese, and while one would normally spend that money on mercenaries in the case of war, Müller decided to go another way. He ordered 7 dozens of masterly crafted swiss Culverins for the Alsacian artillery, and it was during that visit to the gunsmiths that he discovered something that would revolutionize warfare in the times to come. The swiss gunsmith called Karl Altdorf showed him a prototype of something he called a "Hakenbüchse", or Arquebuse. Those were guns small enough to be carried and used by a single person. After a short demonstration, Müller instantly offered Karl Altdorf a salary worth of a king if he relocated his production to Strasbourg, and also stated that the Alsacian Army would need at least ten thousands of those Arquebuses, and would pay handsomely for each one of them.
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Meanwhile, Philip Moritz I von Wittelsbach decided to take his conflict with the church to another level. Faced with increasing problems to justify his claims onto Alsacian Lands to the pope, he decided to convert his whole country to Calvinism and thus deny the pope his status as the head of the church, and any resulting claims on land he might have had. In his mind, this meant that the churchs land, like for example Alsace, were unjustly held and needed to be "liberated" by someone, like him.
This came as a shock to Gottfried Müller. Having been raised in a monastry, he was a very pious man. He absolutely believed in the sanctity of the catholic church, and felt a need to rush in to save the faithful populace of Bavaria from being force-converted to a hereticism and lose their eternal souls into the furnace of hell. He knew that war with Bavaria was now even more inevitable then before, and this time, he himself wanted to be the aggressor.
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However, when approached with this idea, General Franz de Dornach simply shook his head. The soldiers needed more time to train with the arquebuses and culverins, at least another year before they were ready to fight.
There were many other things that needed to be done during this time. Many a bribe were sent to Bohemia to make the Emperor more favourable of our position, and less like to interfere in the war. Alsacian trade dominance needed to be assured in every known Center of Trade to ensure that the money needed to fuel the war would continue to flow into the treasury.
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The priests in the local churches were instructed to spread the idea that heretism invited divine retribution, and that the duty of every true christian is to combat heretics wherever possible. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. "
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Then, on the 17th of november 1514, the time was finally there. War was declared against Bavaria and its allies on the grounds that they are heretics threatening the sanctity of the church.
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The Alsacian troops marched onto bavarian soil, and met little resistance, so unexpected was this aggression for the bavarian King von Wittelsbach. He never expected the Alsacians to attack his country, which still had a standing army which more then doubled the amount of troops Alsace could field. And so he ordered 40000 men under the command of General Karl Albrecht Scherer to attack, pursue, and mercilessly eradicate the far smaller Alsacian army.
But he did not realize how much money had been spent on those few soldiers over the last 5 years, and he underestimated the military genius of General Franz de Dornach. He managed to decide the whole war in one single engagement when he lead the Bavarian Army into a valley near Konstanz, and then sprung the trap.
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Of the more then 40000 Bavarian soldiers, only 9000 survived, and none of those were ever able to talk about the battle without shivering and breaking into tears afterwards. The Alsacian losses were neglectable.
Gottfried Müller, who watched from a safe distance, wrote into his diary on that evening:
"Glorious! This is the only word for it. Glorious! Arquebuses blazing, cannons roaring, all of them delivering divine justice upon the enemies of God. They say that war is the great equalizer. They say war is hell. But oh, how wrong they are. There is no equality if God is with you, when you are in divine favour. And such a rightful war is as close to heaven as you can ever come on this sinful earth. We have been chosen by the Lord to be His guards, His judge, His executors. I finally understand His plan for me. "
The war continued for some time, but it was basically over. The Lion sent another army under the command of Joseph Ferdinand von Armansperk, which met the same fate as the previous one, about 50 miles to the north of the first battle.
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Sadly, the great general Franz de Dornach was hit by a stray arrow during that battle. He was a men of war, he was born in war, lived in war, and finally died in war, but he was also a greatly respected men. Luckily, his policy of battlefield commissions onto worthy soldiers also meant that there was no shortage of competent leaders among his lieutenants, and the most senior among them, a man by the name of Albrecht de Sickingen, promptly took control of the battle only seconds after the fatal hit on the general.
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Meanwhile, all of Bavaria was slowly coming under Alsacian control, enabling Gottfried Müller to dictate the terms of a peace.
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Ulm and Oberpfalz were to be given to the church as sovereign territory, Saxony and Würzburg were to be given complete independance from the Bavarian crown, and of course King Johann IV of Wittelsbach, who succeeded Philipp Moritz I von Wittelsbach who died during the war, was to publicly declare that he respects the catholic churchs right to hold land, and has no claims on anything she owns.
Only a month into this war, Louis René I, who was still technically the ruler of the diozese of Alsace, died alone and forgotten in his room. The pope had other choice then to grant to Gottfried Müller the title Gottfried II, Archbishop of Alsace, since he did not want to provoke a power struggle during wartime which might lose that territory for the church completely. Luck was with Gottfried II, for he had been in control of the wealthy Alsacian diozese for a long enough time to be able to afford the necessary donations to encourage such a decision.
This is only the first part, but i feel the quality of my writing steadily decline as i grow more and more tired, so i will finish the second part tomorrow. Any criticism would be appreciated.
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GREAT AAR, I loved it! Keep up the great work.
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1517-1529, The Alsacian Crusades
In the spring of the year 1517, the small nation of Alsace was once again at peace. Bavaria had been beaten completely, and its king was forced to make large concessions in the Treaty of Munich which ended that war. Archbishop Gottfried II, however, was not satisfied. The heretical calvinist faith was still widespread throughout the Bavarian region. On the 12th of May 1517, Gottfried II wrote into his diary:
I have received a monk from Franken by the name of Rudolf de Bocklinsau today. He says that in complete defiance of the peace accord, Bavarian troops are still cracking down upon those few still loyal to mother church, who defy the heresy the Lion spreads on his lands. Things are becoming more clear with every passing day. I have been bestowed upon a great duty by our Lord. I am His sword, His fire, His judge. Heresy is spreading, and i am His answer. Unam Sanctum, one faith. There is but one true faith, one church, one pontifex. One and one and one, makes three. Trinity. But also three different who call themselves christian, so as one became three, three must become one once again. Germany must be purged by His cleansing fire. It should have been obvious from the start, His signs were always there. It is even in my name, Gott-fried. The peace of God, which is what i need to spread in His name.
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So once again, preperations for war were made. The alsacian gunsmiths worked day and night at the forges, built cannons, arquebuses, bayonets and knifes, armor and helmets. Encouraged by the veterans , many of whom had returned rich and gloryful from the last war, conscription was far more successful than ever before. Within the next two years, the Alsacian army nearly doubled in size.
De Bocklinsau was given the title of official Alsacien theologian, and given the duty and necessary authority to exterminate all heresy from the newly acquired territories of Ulm and Oberpfalz. The calvinist clergy was put onto the pillory, then expelled from any of the churchs land under threat of execution for the rest of their lives. Laws were enacted which limited the possesion of land, and the conduction of business within Alsacian territory to "true christians". Border patrols were instructed to carefully watch anyone crossing from Bavaria for "unchristian behaviour", and heavy taxes were applied to those who still dared to intrude.
Then, only and exactly two years after the end of the great Bavaro-Alsacian war, the army marched again. Envoys were sent out to all major german states to declare the second Alsacian holy crusade against Bavaria, and call upon all "true christians" to assist in the effort to destroy all heresy on german territory once and for all. Naturally, they were completely ignored at most of those courts, as Alsace, while now being quite powerful regionally, was still leagues below the regional majors like Bohemia, Austria or Burgundy in terms of influence. But some replied, just not in the way Gottfried II had hoped they would:
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Apparently, Johann IV von Wittelsbach had not been idle during those last two years. He had bribed, flattered, made concessions, and used every other diplomatic trick in his arsenal to forge a large reformed and protestant alliance against catholic aggression. And while not all of his allies actually honoured that commitment, enough did, most notably the mediterranean Kingdom of Aquilea, and the baltic state of Pommerania, both able to field as much troops as Bavaria. And Alsace stood nearly completely alone against the heretic confederation. With coordination, and without the element of surprise the Alsacian Arquebusiers had in the last year, they stood a good chance of beating the Alsacian army.
But they were not coordinated. Each of the three armies had its own general with his own instructions from his own king, and most importantly, they were split up. The Pommeranian army was in the north, in Pommerania, the Bavarians in Bavaria, and the Aquilaeans were still at the mediterranean costs. So General Albrecht de Sickingen, who was a great scholar, and had read Julius Caesar, knew that the time was ripe for definitive action. Divide and conquer, it had worked before, and it might work here. So instead of waiting for the enemy to unite his troops, he instantly marched on Munich, where he met the Bavarian army still in disarray, and slaughtered them to the last man. Afterwards, he continued on through Augsburg, who surrendered on the spot and asked for Alsacian protection against Bavaria, towards Niederbayern where he met the last remains of the Bavarian army, and outnumbered them 3 to 1.
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Meanwhile, an envoy from Austria arrived at the court of Alsace. He was quite perplexed when he did not meet anyone there, since Gottfried II had, against the advice of all his advisors, adopted the habit of following his army around, and watching every battle in person. Naturally, whoever didn't want to drop into obscurity had to follow him around, too. Anyways, after reaching the army, he delivered his message:
"Ahem. His most divine majesty, Vladislav I von Habsburg, King of Austria and Hungary, Duke of Bosnia and Bulgaria, Defender of the Catholic Faith, Vanquisher of the Turks and the eastern Hordes, has decreed in his most holy wisdom that any transgression of protestant troops onto Austrian soil will be seen as a declaration of war"
While not taking a direct part in this war, this single decision completely changed it. The Aquilaean troops were trapped with no way to reach the battle. While technically still a part in this war, Aquilaea dropped to obscurity.
Meanwhile, de Sickingen marched North, where he intercepted and destroyed the Pommeranian army in Franken and Sudety.
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The rest of the war was a mere formality. Gottfried II had noticed how the Austrians explicitly stated that only protestant armies were forbidden on their soil, so he ordered de Sickingen to march onto the now-seperated Aquieae, where he squashed their inferior armies and, after beating another heretic army while marching through Pisa, forced the Aquilaean king to denounce his heretical faith, and accept subserviance to the Alsacian Church. The Bavarian King, too, was forced to publicly convert to catholicism.
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This concluded the first Alsacian Crusade in 1522.
After the war, Gottfried II decided to release the now completely reconverted Ulm and Oberpfalz as a semi-sovereign diozese under the bishop de Bocklinsau.
Faced with the recent Bohemian losses against both Poland and the protestant country of Brandenburg, the electors decided that the Bohemian lord is no longer fit to defend the integrity of the Holy Roman Empire, and decided to give that title to the single most powerful man in the Land, the Duke of Burgundy. Louis II also used that oppurtunity to also declare himself King in Burgundy.
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But Gottfried II had come to dislike peace. He missed the battles, especially the roaring of cannons which he now described as "the voice of angels" (He ordered daily artillery practice to be held below his castle during peacetime), and he did not want to rest while there were still heretics left inside Germany. Thus, when an Hannoverian refugee from Brunswick arrived at his court, and begged for help in freeing his homeland from the heretic Brandenburgian oppression, he instantly grabbed the opportunity and on the 6 of July 1523, Archbishop Gottfried II declared the second Alsacian Crusade against all heretics.
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The English and the Holsteinians, while technically taking part in the war, had absolutely no interest in ferrying troops onto mainland Germany, and thus only payed lipservice to their alliances, and left the war at the earliest opportunity in a white peace.
This left the remaining german heretics in a dire situation. They were now hopelessly outnumbered by the Alsacian troops, and their whole army got surrounded and annihilated in the battle of Frankfurt, leaving Frankfurt and Hesse no choice but to surrender unconditionally.
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Brandenburg, who had be fighting a prolonged war against the polish on their eastern Front, were in no shape to fight anymore. So it came as a complete surprise when the saxons entered the war on it's last days, probably misinformed by an ill-willing spy. They were easily subdued, and the remaining countries in the war were forced to reconvert to catholicism. Brandenburg was forced to release Hannover as a souvereign country, and the Hannoveranians promptly denounced the faith which had been forced upon them by the Brandenburgian occupiers.
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And that is the story of the Alsacian Crusades. The State of the world in 1529:
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simberto keeping the thread alive with a million pages of aar
ggwp
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that was pretty sweet! warrior bishops of alsace tearing germany up we're still in deep shit vs burgundy or austria though, how's our relations doing?
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I don't think they really like us, but we have military access through both, and so far the only other interaction i had with them was Austria guaranteeing us.
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austria and burgundy so strong in this current game. if you leave it a while austria will collapse on its own due to going full retard in some war with a navy using nation where neither can kill each other. burgundy with hre on the other hand, i dont think is beatable, even if we go monarchy > hre, the france + lowlands too rich to be able to field a better army than them, hopefully they will randomly fall apart too.
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On December 24 2011 02:03 turdburgler wrote:
austria and burgundy so strong in this current game. if you leave it a while austria will collapse on its own due to going full retard in some war with a navy using nation where neither can kill each other. burgundy with hre on the other hand, i dont think is beatable, even if we go monarchy > hre, the france + lowlands too rich to be able to field a better army than them, hopefully they will randomly fall apart too.
very unlikely burgundy looks rich enough that it could probably handle max war exhaustion and full frontal war against iberia/u.k/whatever.
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Add me to the list of players please
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Errr. Someone needs to claim his spot!
Can't have the lands of the lord lay untended on Jesus' Birthday !
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On December 25 2011 18:40 Monsen wrote:
Errr. Someone needs to claim his spot!
Can't have the lands of the lord lay untended on Jesus' Birthday !
On December 23 2011 02:37 3Form wrote:
Righto, I'm ready to play - downloading the save game now!
3Form should be posting his AAR soon :>
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Well, but he has the christmas grace period, so he has still quite some time for that. Though earlier is always better.
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wow! Really great AaR i loved reading it!
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On an other note, in my opinion we should go for a second round with this game, the Alsacian story is not yet finished, and i don't think it will be in the next 80 years. After the last person on the list is finished, we will start again at the beginning of it. However, if my math is correct, not everyone will be able to play a second time, so we could either reuse the same order, or i could shuffle the list around randomly before the second go.
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I definitely agree, a secound round would be great to finish the game. I'm first in line, but I'd say it would only be fair to shuffle the list so that everyone has a chance to play a second time.
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Sorry I was out of internet connection on christmas vacation, but im back here so I'll pick up after the last person has their AAR done!
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shuffle seems most fair as we cant be sure to have the same people for the next go
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Hey, sorry been a bit busy what with Christmas and all (I had to do the cooking this year, I hope not to make tradition out of that heheh). I'm about half way through my twenty years and think I'm doing alright - not going to spoil the impending AAR however
I hope to have it done and up here by the evening - if not, I'll just finish where I am as I've taken a wee bit too long already! And I definitely agree with a second play through - let's reach 1821!
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Ok, so here is how i'll do it. When the last person on the list is playing (atm that would be Pondo), i will take the whole list and randomize it through random.org. I will accept the first result that does not have one of the last two people as one of the first in the list, so that noone will play two terms back to back, and put it back there into the first post, then everything can continue on as usual. There will be one or two persons surplus, but since we might have losses, i don't see any point in shortening the list ahead of time.
Also, looking forward to the next AAR, 3Form.
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I am waiting with bated breath! also im not sure i can do a second round anytime soon, but it depends^^
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Okay, here goes. Sorry for the delay. My first AAR, hope it suffices! ^^
Alsace Succession AAR, 1529-1549
On the second of January in the year of our Lord 1529 AD Archbishop Gottfried II appointed Threé Aus Fȍrm, a minor nobleman from the bishophric of Metz as his new advocate – the layman who exercised temporal powers in the Archbishophric where the Archbishop could not. Many questioned the decision – some saw Fȍrm as inexperienced and unfit for the job, whilst others saw him as merely the pawn of the nobility, through which they could control the church and it's riches. Gottfried however, having ruled already for 15 years, commanded devotion and his clergy and vassals respected his decision (albeit begrudgingly).
There was a small reshuffle of the privy council – the missionary Rudolf de Bocklinsau found himself retired to a small priory in the north of Alsace, to be replaced by a very able ambassador who would endeavour to improve relations with Burgundy and Austria. Gottfried also ordered the use of Large Cast Iron cannons in the army.
1529 and the first half of 1530 passed relatively without incident. Gottfried ordered the construction of a new series of Forts and unsuccessfully attempted to gain military access across Burgundy. In August 1529 there was a large uprising in Saxony and the Duke (Gottfried's vassal) requested help in suppressing the peasants. Gottfried was more than happy to oblige – target practise was always useful!
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Ever since the signing of the last truce Gottfried had been looking for a good opportunity to attack the Bavarians again. That moment was soon upon him. During the winter of 1530, Bavaria found itself at war with not only the Austrians but also the Emperor (Burgundy) and half of Germany! There was a formidable force arrayed against Bavaria.
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The Bavarians were hopelessly outmatched.
Gottfried knew this was the time to strike! He cited the “Violated Sphere of Influence” as his casus belli and declared war on the 21st of December 1530. Almost immediately, our loyal vassal Aquileia donated even more of their income as scutage and an envoy arrived from the Duchy of Brandeburg to arrange for the payment of war subsidies. It seemed the Duke of Bavaria had made some very personal enemies.
1531 saw impressive feats of arms displayed by our soldiers. The castle in Schwaben was taken by escalade after a mere 34 days on the 1st of February and on the 1st of May our army laid siege to Ferrara having destroyed their army.
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Croatia had answered the call of their allies, Bavaria, and they were in a personal union with Ferrara. By October our assaults had been successful and the province was taken by our troops. By the end of the year Bavaria had made peace with Austria but it was of little consequence – by now our troops were besieging all their provinces.
On the 9th of January 1532 the remnants of the Bavarian army, which had been conducting a guerilla style campaign was cornered and destroyed whilst trying to retake Schwaben. By June, Munchen had fallen also. Our army then proceeded to march on Croatia, where we utterly annihilated their army.
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By the 5th of November all of Bavaria was occupied, and the last Croatian fortress fell in 1533. Gottfried now held all the cards and could inflict whatever terms he desired.
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Gottfried vassalised Croatia and Ferrara and annexed Franken from Bavaria. To avoid unlawful territory and the wrath of the Emperor, he distributed Franked to the Count Palatinate who had legitimate claims to the land.
By the end of 1533 however, Bavaria had converted to Reformed! Gottfried was flabbergasted, but could do nothing since the truce had five years to run.
Alsace had incurred a large amount of infamy for it's notorious actions, and Gottfried was determined to restore his reputation. The years 1534-1537 were peaceful and Gottfried embarked upon a large building program. Road Networks were built, paid for by the Bavarian gold. In 1536, Gottfried built a Refinery in Baden and the next year the Alsacian gunsmiths learnt how to produce Chambered Demi cannons.
Our chief ambassador, Heinrich de Hohenstein was also succesful - he managed to reduce our infamy significantly, restoring our standing among nations.
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In 1538, the truce with Bavaria expired and Gottfried lost no time in raising an army. Cleves joined the war on our enemy's side and on the 23rd October they were formally vassalised. During the war, Gottfried also received an emissary from the King of Aragon, who wanted to form a mutually beneficial alliance. Aragon was promising assistance against Bavaria (which really was not necessary, but we entertained their diplomats nevertheless), but Gottfried recalled the support that Aragon was giving to the by now emasculated Kingdom of France. Gottfried, whilst only having a meagre diplomacy stat, knew not to give Burgundy any reason to intervene in his Archbishophric.
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All of Bavaria was occupied and Gottfried again delivered his terms. With hindsight, Gottfried now believes he would have acted differently, but mistakes were made at the time. He annexed Dresden and forced the Bavarians to convert, once again, to Catholicism. This pleased the Pope greatly, but Gottfried now feels he should have vassalised them instead. Dresden was a Bohemian core, so instead of passing it to his vassal, the Duke of Saxony, Gottfried passed it to Thuringia. He did not wish to anger the Bohemia-snake.
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The next few years were peaceful and the economy flourished. Gottfried invested huge amounts of ducats into improvements to his lands, building Town Halls and the like. He decided to invest more in Production technology. Even though it only amounted to 10% of Alsace's income, it amounted to much more than taxation.
In 1544, the Duke of Burgundy finally usurped the King of France and claimed the title for himself! The Holy Roman Empire was now ruled by a blue blob. The future looked dire indeed.
By 1546 the truce with Bavaria had expired. But Gottfried no longer had a casus belli against them since they were by now good Catholics and he had no intention of angering France. He pored over maps of Europe, looking for heathens to scourge. He noticed that the Bishop of Utrecht was preaching heresy but more importantly, that he was allied to Hesse and Wurzburg and guaranteed by Salzburg and Trier!
The war was swift. Salzburg was vassalised on the 13th of June, but the others took longer.
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Hesse was vasalised on the 18th of December 1547, and Trier capitulated on the 19th. Gottfried noted that the French King laid claim to Trier, so he chose not to vassalise them. Instead he chose to have the Bishop deposed and flogged for his disobedience. Wurzburg was the last to fall and was ultimately vassalised as well.
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Gottfried sat back and surveryed his acquisitions. He was pleasantly surprised to take control of the papal curia next year! Retirement beckoned. He had been Archbishop for 35 years now, but perhaps he yet had more of God's work to be done...
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Our diocese, 1st of January 1549:
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The world, 1st January 1549 Linky here, big image.
Save game here. I was hoping to have a nice period of peace to burn off the infamy before handing over to the next player, but I got carried away. Sorry to hand over with 10 infamy, it's poor form on my part and will take the next player half their time to burn off :/
I just couldn't resist vassalising all those minors I haven't checked but we should be good to get HRE when we convert to monarchy. GL whoever is next in line, and please can you all critique my AAR
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ansbach is ruining our green circle, they must be vassalised
right now we are a doughnut, laughable!: (
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On December 29 2011 03:35 turdburgler wrote:
ansbach is ruining our green circle, they must be vassalised
right now we are a doughnut, laughable!: (
They were guaranteed by France last time I checked
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Not only guaranteed, but actually allied, at least they were during my term. I assume you havent messaged the next in line, so i will do that.
Next in line is YoureFired, please claim your spot.
Also, nice AAR.
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Very well done!
Also, I received a similar criticism on my personal AAR, so allow me to give it to you as well
Gottfried knew this was the time to strike! He cited the “Violated Sphere of Influence” as his casus belli and declared war on the 21st of December 1530.
You should add a little flavor to something like this. Instead of saying "He cited the Violated Sphere of Influence", you could say "Whomever had the audacity to stick his nose into territory that has already been claimed by us, and we are to make an example of him." or if you were the one being declared on, say "Their influence spread far too wide for their own good, and they must be brought down a notch." or something. I dunno, just threw that line together but you know what I mean? Not trying to bash, that was a really fun read, gj on the progress ^^
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New player here. Played about 10 hours so far, Gonna get into a bit more before it is my turn.
Sign me up please!
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I'm here! Spot's claimed, give me a day or two since I have college apps but I should have it before New Years.
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and don't worry about the infamy, I'll find a way around it
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I just have to say that this is the ugliest Europe I have seen pretty much ever...
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Never played the game, but this thread is awesome! Damn you, I don't have time for another game right now!!! >.<
Also, Archbishop Gottfried II is a baws!
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nice AAR! :> keep up the good work ppl :D
Also i like the idea of finishing game in 1821. Also i think our ultimate goal should be Creating Germany
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i cant be bothered to scroll back through the thread but based on the current world image, burgundy stomped france and because of the different missions never attacked brittany. then burgundy formed france so does that mean france now has the hre low lands owned but cored and will soon be killing vassalising brittany?
can we form germany without the parts france owns?
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Yes. To form Germany, you mostly need stuff in eastern germany, like Saxony or Magdeburg.
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Bishop Gottfried awoke from his long slumber and shook in the night. He had had a nightmare; he was surrounded on all sides by three beasts, each one more terrible than the next. They had hounded him through the halls of Hell, each second getting closer and closer and constricting the very breath he held in his lungs. He even foresaw the larger one turning on the other, consuming it whole and assimilating its flesh into its own body. To wake himself up, he ordered another round of cannons, the “singing of angels” as he called it.
He assessed the situation that his little Bishopric was in. It was dire indeed; the Duke of Burgundy, the Holy Roman Emperor, had recently taken the crown of France and claimed its former lands as his own. More than 200,000 French and Burgundian troops sat on the Rheinland, threatening the integrity of Alsace and her German vassals. To the west lay Austria, another territorial behemoth with a large army and strong allies. Finally, Bohemia ringed Alsace towards the north, with its Crimean holdings already considered integral parts of her empire and providing a full supply of reinforcements. He decided that he would have to neutralize one of these powers in order to secure his little diocese’s position in Germany.
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The Bishop looked over his ledgers and noticed that nearly 80% of Alsace’s income was generated by trade in foreign centers – and yet they had none in the richest North German trade center, Lubeck! He immediately set one of his advisors on gaining and maintaining trade in the Hanseatic League’s hub.
However, Gottfried’s success in Lubeck was not enough. His empire and vassals were being torn apart by all of the different traders – Venezia, Liguria, Lubeck and even Antwerpen took chunks of Alsatian trade away from its borders. He decided that, due to Alsace’s overflowing coffers, setting up a center of trade right in Central Europe would result in plentiful income. After creating a trading center in Baden, Alsace had a nice little section of Southern Germany trading through its roads and customs houses.
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With the economic side of things in order and with gold streaming in from his new conquests, Gottfried opened a map of Europe and surveyed the land for possible expansions of his realm. To the far north, in lands bordering his vassals, he spied a Reformed country – the Heretic had taken Thuringia! Bohemia was caught in a war with Austria and was in the process of being occupied, and the mere 1000 Thuringian soldiers would pose no threat to Alsace’s German allies. War is declared! For God and Country!
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Thuringia is occupied quickly.
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The Swiss, who foolishly fought alongside the Bohemians, are quickly defeated and occupied as well.
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Alsatian and German troops rush into the Swiss lowlands and easily defeat their isolated army. Alsatian diplomats secure a white peace with our trading allies, the Genoese, and force favorable terms upon the conquered Swiss.
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In the final months of the war, Anhalt declares war on Alsace and is promptly occupied by the Magdeburgian armies arrayed around it. Gottfried barely receives word of their declaration of war before he discovers they have been defeated, and promptly forces them to convert back to the true faith and vassalizes them to protect their souls from further heresy.
As Alsatian and German troops fight occupy the Heretics in Thuringia, Gottfried’s government workers finally bear some fruit from their research into army efficiency and effectiveness; they establish a codified set of Military Drills for all of our troops to follow while training and fighting. Such routine will surely increase morale when our troops come under fire.
We also begin the construction of a march in Elsass, in order to safeguard our capital from French aggression and also to increase our manpower exponentially.
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As Gottfried succeeds against the Bohemian tyrant and basks in victory, terrible news is brought to his eyes; the Bohemians are now ruled by an Austrian king! His dream had become reality, and now two of his fiercest rivals are ruled as one. God save Alsace.
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Alsace needs to weaken the Bohemian-Austrian bear on its borders, but also cannot fight a protracted war in case Austria intervenes. Gottfried demands the reformation of a Transylvanian nation to hopefully form a buffer zone between Bohemia’s German and Crimean holdings. God knows it won’t hold, but it will at least buy Alsace precious time.
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The continent is in a tenuous peace. Austria grows stronger to the east and France remains in the west, two monsters come to swallow Alsace whole.
Suddenly, the populace of Breisgau becomes discontent with the teachings of the Catholic Church and suddenly converts to Protestantism. Fools! Unfortunately, Gottfried is inexplicably unable to put the populace to the sword for their heresy and instead has to content himself with a very ineffectual mission to reconvert the populace.
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The heresy plagues him – how could his loyal subjects, who had fought countless wars to bring heretics to the true faith, suddenly convert? He is haunted by these thoughts day and night until his government advisors become unwilling to see him for fear of being followed by his mad eyes.
One morning in October of the year of our lord 1555, Gottfried, conqueror of Germany, champion of Catholicism, leader of the great nation of Alsace, passes away.
A new man helms the great nation, and despite lacking any diplomatic tact or administrative expertise, is an excellent general.
Heinrich V, the warrior-bishop, now leads the diocese of Alsace.
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It appears that other nations have taken notice of Alsace’s change of hats. Austria now declares its support for the bishopric’s territorial integrity and pledges to fight a war against any nation who attempts to defeat Heinrich. While this support makes him slightly uncomfortable, it is a welcome barrier against French expansionism.
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Heinrich may not be the most charming person, or the most intelligent, but he knows where his strengths are: fighting wars. He pulls out Gottfried’s old map of Europe and spots two pockets of Protestantism in the middle of Europe. They need to be brought back to the true faith. Gottfried would have desired it.
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Thuringia and Hannover are quickly defeated by the combined might of Alsace and her vassals, but one unlikely enemy rises to support the heretic states; the Hanseatic League, who has five provinces in Europe and nearly ten overseas colonies, declares war against Alsace and its vassals.
This support comes too late, however, to stop Heinrich’s armies from capturing Hannover and Thuringia, forcing them to accept the Pope as the true diplomat to God and vassalizing them to prevent further digressions from the faith.
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Only the Hanseatic League remains.
Alsatian soldiers under the command of prodigy General Erasmus Bork annihilate a Hanseatic army and set about occupying Lubeck.
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The Hansa’s ally, Holstein, is defeated by German troops and swiftly besieged as well.
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Heinrich, for all his diplomatic awkwardness, sits in a very tenable position against the Hanseatic League. He demands that they release Holstein from vassalage and recreate the nations of Luneburg and Hamburg, both of which had been previously annexed, along with a sizable amount of bullion.
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However, Heinrich is not finished fighting wars for Catholicism. Brandenburg, one of the former North German powerhouses, has been excommunicated by the Pope and stands much weaker than its former glory as the Holy Roman Emperor. Unable to resist the land, Alsatian diplomats deliver declarations of war to the Brandenburgian prince.
Alsatian soldiers rush across Germany and quickly force Brandenburg to capitulate.
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After occupying Brandenburg, Heinrich is faced with a difficult choice; Alsace needs to increase its territories in order to gain more manpower, as her reserve of a mere 25,000 men has proven inadequate even in these small border conflicts against small North German states. Armies went without reinforcements due to lack of warm bodies in uniform.
He decides to force Brandenburg to cede Potsdam, its richest province. This also leaves the hope of vassalizing the formerly great Princedom in order to secure Alsace’s position against Bohemia.
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Heinrich looks over his troops marching in the streets of Baden. He looks over them and wonders what the streets will be covered with in the future – will they be covered in the rich gold of a trading empire, and walked upon by proud German soldiers united under a common banner, or will they be drenched in blood – the blood of Alsace. He shudders and steps back inside.
The current state of Alsace: We have nearly all of the German minors vassalized, and are in a good position to take chunks out of France with Austrian support in the case of French aggression. And now we are no longer a donut, we are a beautiful blob with a giant Alsace across!
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alright imgs are being complete shit right now and none of my upload websites are working for the stupid savegame :l ill do it tomorrow... sorry for the delay way too much stuff right now.
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Nice read even without the pictures! Sounds like great progress too, and I never thought to set up a CoT heheheh
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Everything done and updated.
Save game here: [url blocked]
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Oh my lord.
Believableworlds.jpg
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You are supposed to explicitly state that you pm'd the next guy in line! great AAR i hope we don't get sandwiched!
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wow this game is getting more and more exciting :D We are getting fat, but our biggest enemies are even more fat already :D.
AARs are great and fun to read! Keep up the good work :>
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Next in Line and PM'd is DeepBlu2, please claim your spot
In my opinion, we could use a bit more land of our own. For example, one could annex Croatia, or something like that. Since we got lots of money, and probably a large surplus of magistrates, even a few not really good provinces could become very good very fast through buildings. Or maybe grab 1-2 provinces from the swiss the next time they want to annoy us. Vassals are a very nice thing to have, but not really that useful in a headon fight. Or, of course, we could go crusading. Everyone loves a good crusade.
Another thing, maybe we shouldn't form Germany, but unite the HRE instead. Since we have already vassalised most of the HRE, that should be possible once we can switch out of a theocracy. But we need to be in a stronger position to do so anyways, since i doubt that France, Austria or Bohemia would easily accept that.
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what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?
there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion
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On January 02 2012 09:38 Holykitty wrote:
what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?
there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion
Higher Manpower, High Forcelimits, more buildings, more catholic provinces = more influence with Papacy which = more chance of becoming papal controller which = lots of bonus', Better trading depending on the province, more security from invasion, etc.
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On January 02 2012 09:46 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 09:38 Holykitty wrote:
what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?
there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion Higher Manpower, High Forcelimits, more buildings, more catholic provinces = more influence with Papacy which = more chance of becoming papal controller which = lots of bonus', Better trading depending on the province, more security from invasion, etc.
and even before the 50 years are up, you get a decent amount of manpower from any province. From my experience, if they're in the same culture group as you, it's still around half what you get normally.
I fought a test war against France (I was allied to Aragon, who called me into a war) and our armies were doing perfectly fine at killing French stacks one by one until our manpower dried up and we suddenly were unable to reinforce. Needless to say I reloaded and noted this.
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Ok, DeepBlu2 PM'd me that he can't play because of computer problems, so:
Next in line is BillyHardcore, please claim your spot.
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On January 02 2012 10:31 YoureFired wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 09:46 Fruscainte wrote:On January 02 2012 09:38 Holykitty wrote:
what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?
there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion Higher Manpower, High Forcelimits, more buildings, more catholic provinces = more influence with Papacy which = more chance of becoming papal controller which = lots of bonus', Better trading depending on the province, more security from invasion, etc. and even before the 50 years are up, you get a decent amount of manpower from any province. From my experience, if they're in the same culture group as you, it's still around half what you get normally. I fought a test war against France (I was allied to Aragon, who called me into a war) and our armies were doing perfectly fine at killing French stacks one by one until our manpower dried up and we suddenly were unable to reinforce. Needless to say I reloaded and noted this.
Don't do that! breaks immersion imo^^
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OKay, I'll claim this spot here.
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On January 02 2012 09:46 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 09:38 Holykitty wrote:
what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?
there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion Higher Manpower, High Forcelimits, more buildings, more catholic provinces = more influence with Papacy which = more chance of becoming papal controller which = lots of bonus', Better trading depending on the province, more security from invasion, etc.
less vassels, less tech, less diplo rating, i told u to build a cot 100 years ago ;p
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I wish my Europe could look that clean.
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What's goin on here? It's been a few days it seems =/
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waiting on deepblu2 it seems
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On January 06 2012 08:51 turdburgler wrote:
waiting on deepblu2 it seems
On BillyHardcore actually it seems.
On January 02 2012 11:09 Simberto wrote:
Ok, DeepBlu2 PM'd me that he can't play because of computer problems, so:
Next in line is BillyHardcore, please claim your spot.
He did claim his spot 4 days ago.
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Why no one do anything anymore
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On January 06 2012 09:05 Fruscainte wrote:Why no one do anything anymore
We're waiting for BillyHardcore to finish playing and then type his AAR.
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Hasn't it been 72 hours by now? I don't mind waiting a bit so long as he lets us know what's up and that he needs a bit of extra time.
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I have PM'd him earlier today, and if there is no reply soon, the spot is open for grabs.
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Well I'm next in line and super keen to get started so just let me know =P
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Ok, lets just say if there is no reply until 24:00 server time (in 2 hours), you can have it.
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I am ready to take my turn as soon as Pondo is done. I can probably finish it in a day or two once that time comes.
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I just finished! Going to do the AAR now.
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This is taking longer than I expected. Here's the file if you want to get started Ulfsark [url blocked]
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The year was 1569 and Heinrich shuddered as he walked inside. He felt awkward during peace. He was not a man of the courts and it was plainly clear. After almost threatening a French diplomat with war for his lack table manners he had decided to defer diplomacy and administration to the more intellectual...
He yearned to be useful again but was discouraged by his advisors they'd explained to him countless times that the neighbours were beginning to think ill of Alasce and it would be wise to spend some time repairing their reputation. He decided to be patient.
Heinrich tried for a time but his spirit knew only war and 18 months later while visiting the province of Potsdam it sparked in him again. He had noticed men on the street preaching heresy! Infuriated he'd ordered their arrest. They were from Messien and that was all the excuse he needed. A few days later he was marching to Messien with 20000 soldiers at his back.
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He was shocked to hear as they marched towards Ruppin a few days later that his former allies Magdeburg, Hamburg and Luneburg had come to the enemies aid. He vowed to make them regret it. He was on the side of God!
Messien was converted to the true faith and Heinrich followed through with his vow.
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Magdeburg is made a vassal.
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Soon after the war the French had the audacity to claim our province Potsdam for their empire. We declined. A few cowardly peasants were upset but Heinrich would not bow to the French dogs.
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Four peaceful years passed. Much investment was put into Potsdam. Its infrastructure was far behind the rest of the nation but with time and money the problem was slowly being solved.
When several of Heinrich's loyal advisors passed away new great men were employed. They were wise and surprised Heinrich with their boldness. At one point he was embarrassed in a public party by his banker's accusations of dated technologies and crude practice! He almost sent him to hang but God's will made him humble.
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It was in that year 1576, 27th November that Heinrich declared war on the still excommunicated Brandenburg for the second time in his lifetime. Holstein joined the war against Alsace and its allies.
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Their numbers were smaller and their men worse equipped. Justice was short and decisive. Brandenburg learned the toll of excommunication from the Catholic Church and Holstein learned why not to stand against Alsace in war. They are both made vassals.
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Wrapped in cloth admiring the cold northern fields of Brandenburg Heinrich smiles satisfied to serve his nation and God again in glorious war. Two years later he dies ill in his bed. Konrad IV becomes the new archbishop and a cunning and diplomatic leader is welcomed amongst the populace.
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In his first year as Archbishop Konrad is found in his study pouring over maps. He realizes the situation is dire. To the west France stands vast and strong with just shy of 300 000 men and in the east Austria and their ally Bohemia. And wherever they go they are conquering, great nations such as England and Poland seem to just crumble at their feet.
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With an already tarnished reputation expansion will likely cause more problems than good and Konrad begins to try think of other ways to prepare Alsace for a war against one of the great powers that seems to always feel right around the corner. But for now he can make no large breakthroughs.
A small alliance is made with the Papal States. In truth Konrad had eyes only for the rich provinces and center of trade in Naples (The Papal States enemy) but before war can be waged Naples is annexed by Sicily.
Instead of Naples his eyes turn to Breisgau. The heretics have gotten out of control and need to be converted to our faith and the province is without a manufactory. A missionary is dispatched and construction is began.
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Towards the end of 1582 an idea is hatched. Alsace cannot grow fast enough to keep up with its enemies. More allies are needed but any nation worth an alliance is too cautious to see our logic. Konrad decides to go to war for wealth and allies and leave conquest as a second priority in order to keep our reputation intact.
War is declared on the heretics, Finland. They are joined by Sweden, Lithuania and Prussia.
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Sweden is held back by the numerous vassals in Fyn, however the enemies strength in the sea prevents them from pushing further.
In the east Alasce pushes into Prussia and then into Lithuania. Their soldiers fight with equipment a century old and in the beginning victories are swift and utterly one-sided.
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Prussia is quickly made a vassal. And although outnumbered the troops successfully push the enemy far into the east occupying a dozen provinces before suing for peace. All their wealth on hand is demanded and the Muscowy is released in the hopes of serving as a strong ally against any Austria-Bohemian aggression.
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Sweden however proves a more annoying enemy. Their naval fleet halting any aggression except from far in the east. Eventually peace is agreed upon in 1585 and Alsace receives 175 ducats in bounty.
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Initially planning to settle down for a few Konrad is delighted when Brittany is excommunicated west of France. Seizing the opportunity troops are sent west in the hopes of gaining further wealth or vassalising their allies. The ambitious hopes are soon shot down as it is realized that manpower is dwindling. Our troops however still prove strong enough to collect from the whimpering opposition on January 1st 1589.
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With Brittany's surrender Konrad returns to his study to pour over the maps once again. He is filled with worry and anxious for a solution but it seems no matter where he looks there are fierce enemies ready to pounce. "I fear I have not done enough," he says in the stuttering candlelight.
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That took waaaaay longer than I was expecting to write. lol :p Was lots of fun, I'm a bit of a noob though so I'm not sure how much I helped. France and Austria do sure look scary D:
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I am claiming my spot! I should have it done today or tomorrow.
WARNING: I am, at 2000 words already and I have like 5 years to go, I will probably trim it a bunch once I add screenshots.
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Well done
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Nice AAR I'm glad you vassalized Brandenburg that's exactly what I was trying to do!
I do agree that you need to find people to declare war on in order to gain revenue. Maybe the next person could start demanding annexation of vassals? Or if we converted to Monarchy we would be able to take HRE easily with all of the electors who are our vassals.
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Ok I am done playing and typing, Just need to polish it and add screenshots then it is good to go. It is really fucking long lol
Edit: fuuuuu the screenshots are the wrong format... I have a ton of them too. ugh... any advice?
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. We can read that in the HSC4 downtimes!
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On January 08 2012 04:48 Ulfsark wrote:
Ok I am done playing and typing, Just need to polish it and add screenshots then it is good to go. It is really fucking long lol
Edit: fuuuuu the screenshots are the wrong format... I have a ton of them too. ugh... any advice?
What do You mean by wrong format? Just open IrfanView and save as png.
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I was basically asking for a good way to convert them. Thanks.
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Okay, final edit. Some of the pics may be a bit off/missing as I had to do it in two parts because of Imgur which made it very confusing.
here is the link to the save game, I will PM next in line as well.
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+ Show Spoiler +Waiting on images to upload/be placedJournal of Konrad IV I spent hours scouring our ledger to find the locations of heretics. They are way more numerous that previously thought. This makes me uneasy, There is much work to do. I do not wish to sit idle, however it not a good decision to go into war without proper preparations. Surveying our regiments I have learned that not all of them are at full strength. This will give me ample time to plan the cleansing of more heretics while the regiments return to their full strength so that they can bring glory to god and Alsace! It has been made clear to me that we do not possess any coastal provinces. If we were to create a small navy, this would allow us to convert heretics in distant lands! There are whole continents of heretics!Soon the world shall bow to god! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RidfF.png) Hour of searching through maps and other documentations has revealed to me a target of our conquest. The nation of Candar If we are able to gain a province in that territory it would allow us to start the creation of a navy. Perhaps then we could sail to Africa where the heathens frolic in sin! If their allies oppose us, they too shall feel the steel of god! The troops will have to march far to reach the battles but god will protect them! The armies of god march onward! Like angels from heaven! We have been insulted. To set a good example and to improve relations with our subjects we have followed the example of Jesus and turned the other cheek. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7UPHM.png) With our armies on their border war is declared on Candar! Their allies Yemen shall feel the wrath of god as well! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QLNyz.png) We have troops in several of their provinces and we have won a few small skirmishes. Their main army is a fraction of our army. They refuse to fight us in a straight engagement. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8adqI.png) Due to divine intervention we were able to ambush their forces right before they left the province. Within a few months we have the rats cornered in their fortresses. Stone walls will now save them from god. Candar provinces fall into our hands one by one. I feel gods gaze and know that he is pleased with our accomplishments. Candar is under our control! The heathens shall kiss the earth as the bow to their new god! These are the terms we negotiated. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7RIpQ.png) We have acquired most of their provinces! This will allow us to send missionaries and will act as a base of operations and naval base for campaigns vs heathens in the south and Mediterranean. God smiles upon Alsace this day! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uDPUh.png) Missionaries have been sent, soon they will worship the one true god. Yemen is still at war with us and refuses to accept a white peace. However they are too far away to combat from the land alone, We will bide our time and be on the lookout for their attacks. I fear that I may not see the great armada that our nation can produce in my lifetime as the newly acquired provinces are not a core part of our nation. However they will still prove useful in fighting wars against heretics in the southern part of the known world. The former citizens of Candar are ungrateful that we saved their souls. Several rebellions have been put down already. There is potential for a holy war of the likes we have never seen. There is a vast alliance of heretics in these lands. We shall prepare both of and our allies for a grand war of which has not been heard of since biblical times. Ordering for more troops to be trained, and several current regiments to be sent to our new southern provinces I make plan for war. France now controls the Holy Roman Empire! This is grave news indeed. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A64mG.png) When the troops are in position we shall go to war with Syria and their allies. For the glory of god! War has been declared! We may be outnumbered but we have god on our side! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1ZALT.png) They outnumber us in Cavalry however they cannot match our artillery! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Kap98.png) We have agreed to White Peace with Yemen which will allow us to focus on our war against Syria. Laying siege in several provinces, we attempt to engage their main army with ours while setting up more sieges throughout their lands. We are able to engage one of their main armies and annihilate it. Chasing it down to the next province we deal as much damage as possible. However most of the sieges have been broken by small parties. This war will not be easy. I am confident that with god out our side we can achieve victory! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PRs2u.png) We are outnumbered by these savages however with god and our technology We can achieve victory! There is a large Persian army that is said to be 30,000 strong nearby. We are playing cat and mouse with them, If we can engage with all of our forces we should be able to defeat them. We cannot let them pick of our smaller armies one by one as this would spell the end for us in this war. I have been recruiting primitive infantry from our new provinces to bolster our ranks as any man who can lift a weapon will be helpful in this war. We have lost our information as to the location of the Persian army. This makes me uneasy. Attrition is taking its toll. Soon I will send the weaker regiments to our new provinces so that they can resupply and regain their morale. A horde of heretics has been spotted on the war front! After issuing a tactical retreat, I offer a prayer to god. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/G33uU.png) We will fall back to our forward provinces and resupply so that we may turn the sands red with their blood! Reinforcements are also arriving from our beautiful homeland. How I miss the lush fields and lovely maidens of Alsace. I grow tired of the sand, It is always in my boots and anywhere else one can imagine. This is what god wants me to do, I am his servant. When I reach heaven, I shall ask him why he created this wretched landscape. The war is not in the favor of Alsace, Once the regiments are at full strength and the troops morale is restored we shall run our enemies through! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XOFc5.png) It is a new year, Celebrations have ceased and moral is at a high, It is time to strike. Reports show there is an army 30,000 strong on the border of our lands, Our troops almost double theirs, This shall be the bloodiest battle if it takes place. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sbXfd.png) We need to damage their armies while we can, It is hard to sustaine large armies in enemy territory. If we split them up they will be picked apart by the heretics. This is why we must do as much damage as possible to their armies early on. Catching the enemy army unaware we have superior numbers! Their morale falls quicker than than a raindrop in Alsace. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yjuqw.png) They route quickly and we give chase, but not before leaving behind troops to siege the fortress. We engage their army once more! We are outnumbered but have the upper hand due to morale. The battle has been won! They flee like cowards and we pursue them to ensure that we do not have to deal with them later. God is for sure on our side! 1,000 brave men held their ground against 5,000 heretics! It is a sign! We are winning skirmishes across the land, We have yet to finish any sieges though. Our soldiers are vastly superior to theirs. As long as we keep our morale and manpower up This war is ours. However the peasants are getting tired of the war. Hopefully we can occupy some provinces soon so that we can negotiate. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cZ9mG.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/m2hYQ.png) I have arranged for all regiments less than 400 strong to be sent home to resupply. They are useless in that condition. God has made it clear to me that I should cease this war. Their hordes are too strong. We shall try and reach a favorable or a white piece by occupying 1 province to give us the edge. The war is currently in our favor but only slightly. Our troops and peasants need a break from the horrors and stress of war. We are not victorious, but we have not failed for we will be back again and we will be stronger. Their hordes march towards us, We cannot reach means for peace. Our troops are battered and beaten, This is a grave situation indeed. (I knew the war was not the best idea, I just wanted to do something interesting :p) We shall hold our ground and hope to persuade them via winning skirmishes. I refuse to give tribute for peace! The final battle shall take place in Mus, We overpower them as of now but they have 24,000 troops en route. All of our troops are making haste, however I am unsure whether they will get their in time. Perhaps It is gods will, that we lose this war. We won the initial engagement, Their reinforcements decided not to come. This is good news indeed. White Peace has been reached with Iraq, This is the first step to ending this god forsaken war. We have reached peace with Persia as well. Perhaps we could continue to fight this war since the enemy hordes have been thinned. We are only at war with Syria and their vassals. However the peasants grow weary of war talk. Syria launches a surprise attack on Mus! If we can win this I will mount a quick and powerful counter offensive to punish them for their insolence ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/acOul.png) The battle is won! We shall chase these rats until there are no left. With most of the heathen nations out of the war we can do a great deal of damage to Syria. Hunting their main army down, we besiege as many provinces as possible. I feel gods gaze focused on Alsace once more! Alsace loses several skirmishes, I put an end to this war for the time being. The heretics can wait, I feel peace is in the best interest of the children of god that reside in Alsace. Even in times of peace, I am still finding sand strewn about my chambers as well as within my wardrobe. How can those heretics live in such a hellish landscape. It has been a while since the war and things are starting to turn to normal. I am still weary of France however. One of our best generals died, Not in battle as he would have liked. He died peacefully in his home land however. I have received good news that some of the heretics have accepted the word of god! God be praised! Surveying a map of religion throughout the known world worries me. Heresy still runs rampant outside of Europe. I hope that I live to see the world purged of Heresy and united under the one true god. It is no coincidence that these two maps align the way they do. The printing press is revolutionizing the spread of information. Because of this we have gained a lot in the way of technological advances. Gold flows from the coffers as freely as the wine. Things are going well for Alsace. However there are many nations that have not heard the word of god. I must now turn my attention to these heretics. Hopefully what we gain from the conquest of heretics will help us if we ever need to go to war with the powers of Europe. There is an island in the Mediterranean that does not share our beliefs. It would be trivial to conquer it, if we had ships to bring our troops there. I feel that we cannot conquer heretics until we are able to conquer the waves. I have been told be god that Alsace is to claim the last lands of Candar. The people in these lands worship god but are being ruled by heretics! This cannot continue. We shall free the children of god from oppression! It would appear I have made a grave mistake. I was informed that Candar only had 1 ally, Yemen, However Yemen has called upon their allies to aid them in this war. For god and country! We quickly crush the Candarian army and besiege the fortress. Now we must turn out attention to the west where the true enemy lies. Fighting outnumbered our valor and piety carries us to victory in this bloody battle! Our other large army moves to intercept them as they flee into the sunset. Rumors of our unrelenting aggression in the name of god has spread throughout the lands! We have fought their main army again and again across several battlefields, Our numbers dwindle as well as do theirs but Their morale is worsened as they are being defeated by inferior numbers! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dWQLO.png) When this war is won it shall be a glorious day! The crimson sand scorches the flesh of the wounded men that lie strewn about. We are vastly outnumbered but not yet beaten. This is the battle that will see if we have god's favor. A thick cloud of smoke bellows across the desert making it hard to breathe. The cacophony of the battle makes it difficult to think. We have reinforcements in route, I pray that they arrive in time. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wTXys.png) Their cavalry tore our men to shreds. I wonder if god has turned his back on us. Battered and beaten we retreat once more. Once the Candarian siege is complete, I will try and make peace with these heretics, Their numbers are too great. I order the troops back We need to be on the defensive until we can complete the siege of Candar. The heretics are upon us! They are attacking our forward camp in Mus! Reinforcements for us are on the way but they are two provinces away. God help us on this day. After a bloody battle we are able to force our enemies to flee. We are victorious on this darkest of days. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GkET5.png) They attack our war camp once again, Reinforcements are closer in this battle. The men are confident that god is watching us. After a brutal fight we push them back once more. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/M5l6p.png) We have won the siege of Mus! This is a great victory and will help us greatly in the negotiations. Further investigations reveal that we are not too far behind in troops. They have thrown away thousands trying to attack our troops in Mus. Our troops have a new found will to fight with our recent victories. Perhaps I will take this war further. 7 times they have tried to break us in Mus. 7 times they have been repelled.\ We have been winning the majority of the battles and we have a presence in many provinces. However the war has yet to be decided. We have gained control of most of Syria and have beaten most of their armies. With our armies spread thin, we must proceed with caution They heretics are too many. We are too few. I have decided to concede defeat in order to preserve lives of our soldiers. In order to defeat these heretics I feel it would be necessary to bring troops down from the homeland. Sorry if some of the pics are messed up. I had to do them in 2 parts cause of imgur, this made it really confusing. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rP73d.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/oBCtG.png)
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Ok, sorry that i have been very inactive for the last few weeks, i should be around more now.
Anyways, here is the newly randomized list, i will add it to the OP, too.
turdburgler
3Form
Ramong
Pondo
YoureFired
Bairemuth
Bourneq
Ulfsark
Stolat
Simberto
Apparently i won't get to play again
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weeee!! Soon my turn, can't wait to see how much have changed since my last time
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can me and nttea trade places? i am busy for the next 2 days, i could do it but if possible id rather not leave you guys hanging for like 2 days? i shall pm him and ask, if he too is busy ill work something out :D
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Sure, if you both want to you can trade as much as you like.
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Nice AAR. That was a really different approach. Makes it really interesting when you have all these new ideas from fresh players.
Also is there a rule against ending the turn in war or are we all just making peace out of etiquette?
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not really. if thats how things turn out thats how they work out, declaring war on the whole world on the last day might be frowned upon but short of that...
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Sorry i don't have the time to do another turn! So i need my name stricken from the list. I will PM 3form to ask if he can play
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Ok, so what is going on now? I have remove nttea from the list, but is turdburgler playing, or not, and if not, who is?
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If turdburgler is not playing, I will play. I will be able to take my turn tomorrow! nttea has PMed me the save game.
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go for it, ill go after 3form and continue from normal after that
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On the 2nd of January 1609, Armand I, Archbishop of Alsace, surveyed his realm to decide upon his next course of action. He realised that with his extensive network of vassals and tributaries he was in a good position to institutionalise himself and transform Alsace into a hereditary state , with himself as absolute monarch. Armand would have been lying if he said the thought didn't appeal to him, in fact he was positively salivating – the transformation to monarchy would require him to renounce his vows as a priest, particularly those of celibacy. What an ideal excuse!
He also studied documents pertaining to the Emperorship, and decided that the last independent elector, Siena, should be vassalised soon. However, Sienna was allied with France, so Armand would have to bide his time.
Finally, Armand ordered the recruiting of more men. Alsace was capable of fielding a much larger army, and he did not wish to appear weak in the eyes of his neighbours.
On Monday the 15th August 1609, Armand I took the plunge. He became our most serene majesty Armand I of the Kingdom of Greater Alsace – Long live the King! That night Armand ordered the prettiest of the kingdom's ladies to his bedchamber.
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The next morning – perhaps afternoon for it had been a busy night – Armand hired a Grand Marshall to advise him how best to make his rule more legitimate. This involved marrying off the members of his family to the rest of the nobility – Armand was from a noble background himself. His elder brothers were married to French and Austrian princesses, whilst his sisters were dragged out of the convent to marry lesser German noblemen.
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The next year was relatively uneventful, as Armand consolidated his rule and ordered the construction of impressive churches in his new holdings in Asia Minor.
In August of 1611, Armand decided to go to war with the King of Pisa. The King of Pisa was excommunicated and this gave Armand the perfect excuse to grab some new territory. Unsurprisingly, the King of portugal and Duke of Berry backed their ally, but these were mere flies to be swatted. Armand dispatched an army to Poitou whereupon the Duke immediately conceded defeat. Armand showed leniency, but in private he was concerned about the desires of France upon Berry. As this army then turned southwards towards Portugal, Armand continued his assault upon central Italy.
The war took two years but eventually all of the Kingdom of Pisa was occupied. However, Armand had no navy and was unable to occupy their colonial holdings in Africa. Instead of a full annexation, Armand demanded three provinces.
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Of these three, only Firenze was part of the empire. This displeased the Emperor however, so as soon as the war was over, Armand invited the exiled Duke of Tuscany to return and granted him his lands in return for homage.
During May 1614, diplomatic negotiations with Siena bore fruit and an alliance was formed. This put Armand a step closer to making them his vassal.
The rest of 1614 was uneventful, but during May 1615 we learned that the Kingdom of Aragon had united the thrones of Castille and Navarre and formed the Kingdom of Spain! An Emmisary was sent at once to propose a marriage between Armand and the daughter of the Spanish King. The Spanish King accepted, much to Armand's delight! In December of that year peace with Portugal was achieved. Their capital was no longer in Lisboa so Armand was not able to extract much in the way of concessions.
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In October of 1615 the court was most pleased to hear that the succession was safe. Armand's marriage with the Spanish princess had bore fruit, as little Walter was born.
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Armand decided to expand his empire, and in September 1616 declared war upon Savoy. Savoy's allies, Trier responded by declaring war, as did the Teutonic Order.
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The vassal Prussia dealt swiftly with the Order, whilst Alsacian armies laid siege to Trier and the territories of Savoy. The sieges were long and tiresome and in the September next year Armand passed an act dubbed “The Importation Act.” This protected local traders and increased Alsace's trade efficiency considerably.
In December 1617, Potsdam became one of Alsace's core provinces and Armand demanded the annexation of Brandenburg into his demesne.
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However, to reduce the wrath of the Emperor, he decided to keep only Niederlausitz, allowing the Duke to keep the province of Brandeburg. Armand now noted that a large percentage of his subjects were Saxon, so he issued edicts granting them the same status as other Alsacians.
By January 1618, Trier was occupied and instantly reduced to tributary status, and the Teutonic Order swiftly followed. Armand briefly considered rewarding the Duke of Prussia with the lands of the Order, but decided that divide and rule was the best policy.
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Savoy was completely occupied in April 1619, but were too big to vassalise outright. Siena also immediately accepted the offer of vassalisation, so Armand now had another elector backing him.
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Little happened for the next four months, but in September the Milanese accepted Alsacian overlordship.
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Armand ordered the construction of an Embassy to reduce his infamous standing in Europe, and then promptly declared war on the excommunicated King of Naples, who's battered kingdom consisted of only Apulia. The Neapolitan were swiftly vassalised.
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In July of 1621, Armand decided that he no longer required 'Unam Sanctum', so the group of clergymen were disbanded and the funding was instead directed to a scheme designed to encourage craftsmanship and fine arts. Armand was mocked (behind his back) by some of his courtiers, dubbing him the “Patron of the Arts.”
In May of 1622, several of the nobility expressed an interest in vassalising Bavaria. Alsace's old enemy was in the forefront of everyone's minds. However they had an alliance with Austria, so Armand (wisely) decided a direct approach was not ideal. Instead, he pledged one his daughters to the Bavarian king's nephew.
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In 1625 there was an abortive war against Savoy again. After occupying them, Armand realised that the expense required to annex such a large kingdom was too high, so instead he forced them to end their vassalisation of Parma, and promptly declared war on Parma instead.
Alsacian troops quickly took the meagre fort, and Parma was vassalised soon after.
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Armand ordered the construction of a Fine Arts Academy in 1626, again attracting the ridicule of his warlike courtiers.
In 1627, Armand initiated his new policy towards Savoy and entered a Royal Marriage with them. Bavaria also accepted vassalisation, and the Duke paid homage on the 5th of May 1627. Three hundred years of adversary was concluded.
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Saxony relinquished Meissen into the Royal Demesne in 1628, the Duke keep only Leipzig, and in 1628 the last province of Candar was annexed into Armand's overseas dominions. So many Turks were now under his rule that he gave them the same privileges he had awarded the saxons.
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Austria also proposed an alliance this year, and Armand saw no reason to reject. It would keep the Austrians from attacking him, at least.
Armand sat back. It had been 20 years since his coronation, and he was pleased with the progress he and his subjects had made. Being an Archbishop was nowhere near as fantastic as being a king he thought as he headed once more to the royal bedchamber(s)...
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Just uploading the save now, will PM turd when it's up. Also I regret avoid unlwaful penalty, since we need Brandenburg and Saxony in order to form Germany. Hopefully a mission to annex them will pop soon, granting a core. We should keep an eye on our relations with vassals to get this event to fire more often!
Whoops, seems like I missed those rebels in Meissen, heheheh.
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Wuuuh, new stuff. Reading it now.
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Wow we're really starting to look quite powerful! :D Would be nice if there was at least one full screen screenshot so we could see infamy and other stats. Just out of interest.
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On January 11 2012 10:38 Pondo wrote:
Wow we're really starting to look quite powerful! :D Would be nice if there was at least one full screen screenshot so we could see infamy and other stats. Just out of interest.
I left infamy at 0.0, deliberately Turburgler can eat as much as he wants without the rest of Europe leaving a turd on his doorstep. Money is not a problem, however we need to lower military maintenance to get the sums required to spend on big buildings!
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On December 17 2011 07:58 Fruscainte wrote:
OH MY LORDY
DAT BRITTANY
UKRAINE HWAITING~
just popping in as somebody who has never played any of the games in this series - how historically faithful are they supposed to be? Ukraine did not exist even as the concept of a country at the time (1468), I am surprised to see it on the map!
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On January 11 2012 13:24 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 07:58 Fruscainte wrote:
OH MY LORDY
DAT BRITTANY
UKRAINE HWAITING~ just popping in as somebody who has never played any of the games in this series - how historically faithful are they supposed to be? Ukraine did not exist even as the concept of a country at the time (1468), I am surprised to see it on the map!
It starts out historical then anything can happen. I believe the starting year is 1300? Something around that. So in theory Ukraine could conquer England or the Aztecs could conquer Europe (highly unlikely but technically possible)
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On January 11 2012 13:24 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 07:58 Fruscainte wrote:
OH MY LORDY
DAT BRITTANY
UKRAINE HWAITING~ just popping in as somebody who has never played any of the games in this series - how historically faithful are they supposed to be? Ukraine did not exist even as the concept of a country at the time (1468), I am surprised to see it on the map!
It's a simulator. Like Europe itself, one wrong flip of the die and things go pear shaped.
i.e. Imagine if the Teutonic Knights had won the battle of Grunwald... Or if Edward III of England hadn't died before Phillip... Or if Holland had inherited Bavaria before annexing England, becoming the Emperor and subduing the Rus princes...
Basically, in answer to your question, after you hit 'Play' on 1399, anything can happen. The Ukraine exists as a vague notion, just how long it takes to form itself is the question.
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aaaahhh succession games, where you have a country with 99% compete chance and yet no traders, 0 inflation but an inflation reduction advisor : DDDDDD you guuuyyysss
fml, i fucked up some of the early screen shots in my turn, so the first bit might be lacking pictures a little Q_Q
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On January 11 2012 22:47 turdburgler wrote:
aaaahhh succession games, where you have a country with 99% compete chance and yet no traders, 0 inflation but an inflation reduction advisor : DDDDDD you guuuyyysss
fml, i fucked up some of the early screen shots in my turn, so the first bit might be lacking pictures a little Q_Q
inflation reduction is for minting since we are so far ahead in tech was considering taking national bank just for more minting!
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On January 11 2012 13:24 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 07:58 Fruscainte wrote:
OH MY LORDY
DAT BRITTANY
UKRAINE HWAITING~ just popping in as somebody who has never played any of the games in this series - how historically faithful are they supposed to be? Ukraine did not exist even as the concept of a country at the time (1468), I am surprised to see it on the map!
Actually it did. They just did not have easy time forming a country at any time, mind You, normal Ukraine (not communist) was formed in 1991!
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On January 11 2012 23:25 3Form wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 22:47 turdburgler wrote:
aaaahhh succession games, where you have a country with 99% compete chance and yet no traders, 0 inflation but an inflation reduction advisor : DDDDDD you guuuyyysss
fml, i fucked up some of the early screen shots in my turn, so the first bit might be lacking pictures a little Q_Q inflation reduction is for minting since we are so far ahead in tech was considering taking national bank just for more minting!
ye i think im gonna go back to that, we have really good magistrate rate so im probably just gonna mint like crazy and build buildings : D
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On January 11 2012 22:47 turdburgler wrote:
aaaahhh succession games, where you have a country with 99% compete chance and yet no traders, 0 inflation but an inflation reduction advisor : DDDDDD you guuuyyysss
fml, i fucked up some of the early screen shots in my turn, so the first bit might be lacking pictures a little Q_Q
How does that even happen? I had merchants on autosend to all CoTs, since our compete chances were already high enough to dominate them all even during my turn.
Regarding the inflation reduction advisor, that would be a pretty standard thing to find in my games. You can just mint about 15% all the time, while staying at 0 inflation, and thus not only have a lot of tech, but also have a lot of money. I find that having actual money is almost always better then having the same amount of ducats in pure tech, so this leaves you with a pretty good cash flow.
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i dont even know why : D i think most of our high compete chance cots are either embargoed, out of trade range, or closed to our traders. we are getting badly outplayed by portugal : D get first american core, build CoT recieve money. i warned of this like 20 pages back in the main thread Q_Q. getting to america first is like a gold mine, but we still dont have a port cored yet. my 1 distant oversees province, 0% income due to 0 ships : D
what are peoples opinions on expansion? do people want more vassals or more land?
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On January 12 2012 00:23 turdburgler wrote:
i dont even know why : D i think most of our high compete chance cots are either embargoed, out of trade range, or closed to our traders. we are getting badly outplayed by portugal : D get first american core, build CoT recieve money. i warned of this like 20 pages back in the main thread Q_Q. getting to america first is like a gold mine, but we still dont have a port cored yet. my 1 distant oversees province, 0% income due to 0 ships : D
what are peoples opinions on expansion? do people want more vassals or more land?
The mission that I got as I handed over was to annex Ferrara, if we do that we should have a coastal core.
As for traders, I tried to keep monopolies in all the CoTs we were allowed in
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I would say grab the rest of turkey if it is still muslim, you are our last holy warrior. I would avoid african stuff, we don't really need or want overseas provinces. Other than that, we should focus on the German/HRE area in my opinion, with the goals of either forming germany or uniting the HRE in an epic battle against France and Austria.
And seriously, Alsace is not really a colonising nation. I don't thing we should even care about the americas at all. Europe is where it's at, and we are not really in any sort of rivalry with them. As long as we are nice to the colonisers, and they allow us to trade in their CoTs (or we beat them up and force them to) we can take our share of the colonising money without doing any colonising ourselves.
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i dont care about america, i care about money! ;p
btw ferrara mission doesnt give a port because you gain the core after taking it. have to build it myself
just gonna apologise beforehand for 2 things. 1 the wars i fought were really boring. only against minors and people 10 tech levels below me, herp derp war over in 10 seconds.
and secondly the new player gets to start the game with 6 infamy and at war with 3 countries, one of those situations where you cant reach them and they cant reach you and you are just waiting for white peace, not a big deal but after getting handed the game with a clean sheet as far as war goes i feel bad putting the next player in a non perfect start.
on the plus side we lose 1.5 infamy a year and are only 2 techs from being able to take cabinet.
oh and i took trakai off of lithuania with the plan to sell it to prussia for moneys but i got stuck at war till the end of my go, but if the next player wants to keep it i dont mind :D
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The year was 1629, the king of Alsace, Armand I, sat on the throne of a nation with lands scattered across all of Europe. He desired to join his lands together, to make a mighty nation that would rival the power of the French and Austrian kings. Although he enjoyed good relations with both, they guaranteed the independence of so many minor nations that it was impossible for Armand to bring the weaker nations into his sphere of influence.
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And so his attentions turned to the near east. Land once owned by the powerful Ottoman empire had since been conquered by Holy crusaders, fighting in the lords name to bring enlightenment to the region. Armand held control over the central lands of turkey, with the heathens to the east, and the Spanish to the west. Although the leaders of Alsace had renounced their position as part of the church, it was still important for the country to spread the good word across the world, whenever possible.
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The backward heathen armies of the region held out for a mere few weeks before being forced to concede lands to the one true God.
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As the glorious Alsatian armies marched home, they were once again called on to spread the word of the lord. Heretics in southern Italy and Greece could no longer be tolerated. The risk of their teachings reaching Alsatian lands could not be taken, these minor countries would feel the full wrath of God!
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After these easy victories, the armies serving under Armand were infamous throughout all of Europe. Although they had been spreading the good word, there was talking of bullying minor nations and starting unnecessary wars abroad. To ease the fears of his European friends Armand decided to change his course for the upcoming decade, he would reduce spending on the military and instead channel more funds to building up glorious buildings and roads throughout his kingdom. He would prove to the world that those who defended the lord were aptly rewarded!
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Years passed, and once again Armand felt the call of God, telling him to further the reach of the lord to the east. Although the lands there were rich with foreign goods, Armand had no navy with which to transport these goods back to Alsatian land in Europe. These lands would be costly to maintain, but they must be rescued from the evil Muslim sultans as the Lord had requested of him. Armand hatched a plan to put a puppet Christian king on the thrown of the lands he would conquer, this would stop him having to worry about the cost of ruling over such distant land without leaving the call of God unanswered.
Once again God's divine power cleared the way for the Alsatian armies, with almost no resistance it was mere months before a new Christian king had been crowned over the new lands of Georgia!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aB8qn.png)
As Armand watched the world go by, he knew it was just a matter of time before he would be able to expand his influence again.
Then in 1645 his chance presented itself, the mighty powers of Austria and England were at war. Although the Austrians outnumbered the English by a hundred thousand men, the English navy was an immovable object between the two nations. The Austrian nerve broke first, with the country exhausted from war, they gave concessions to the English, giving up their power over two minor European provinces, which the English hoped to bring into their control at a later date. But Armand had been waiting for just an opportunity, and although some minor European powers and the broken English came to the defense of these young nations their armies were swiftly stomped out by the army of God fighting under Armand
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sorry again for the short write up. still too busy to dedicate too much time to playing atm
and ive sent the PM to ramong to play next
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On January 11 2012 23:50 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 13:24 UniversalSnip wrote:On December 17 2011 07:58 Fruscainte wrote:
OH MY LORDY
DAT BRITTANY
UKRAINE HWAITING~ just popping in as somebody who has never played any of the games in this series - how historically faithful are they supposed to be? Ukraine did not exist even as the concept of a country at the time (1468), I am surprised to see it on the map! Actually it did. They just did not have easy time forming a country at any time, mind You, normal Ukraine (not communist) was formed in 1991!
i don't want to sidetrack your thread so i won't argue about this, especially since i might be misremembering some of it, but i know some ukranian history (euro history as a whole not at all) and after the days of the kievan rus ukraine spent almost all of the time up until about ww i divided between russia and european countries like the polish-lithuanian commonwealth. It was basically considered a piece of russia some of which was in european hands, and the ukranian speakers were thought of as 'little russians'. The idea of ukraine as an actual country rather than simply an ethnic group didn't arise until i believe the 1700s? And didn't get any traction at all until the 1800s in the galicia region under the hapsburg empire, which had relatively free expression and actually actively promoted the idea for byzantine political reasons i can't remember. So the inclusion of ukraine in 1468 surprised me. I was hoping reading the reports would show me some alternate universe euro history, and i'd get some real history from that as im pretty ignorant about most of the continent, but if it doesn't start out letter perfect i'll just read for the entertainment.
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On January 12 2012 05:14 UniversalSnip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2012 23:50 Kurumi wrote:On January 11 2012 13:24 UniversalSnip wrote:On December 17 2011 07:58 Fruscainte wrote:
OH MY LORDY
DAT BRITTANY
UKRAINE HWAITING~ just popping in as somebody who has never played any of the games in this series - how historically faithful are they supposed to be? Ukraine did not exist even as the concept of a country at the time (1468), I am surprised to see it on the map! Actually it did. They just did not have easy time forming a country at any time, mind You, normal Ukraine (not communist) was formed in 1991! i don't want to sidetrack your thread so i won't argue about this, especially since i might be misremembering some of it, but i know some ukranian history (euro history as a whole not at all) and after the days of the kievan rus ukraine spent almost all of the time up until about ww i divided between russia and european countries like the polish-lithuanian commonwealth. It was basically considered a piece of russia some of which was in european hands, and the ukranian speakers were thought of as 'little russians'. The idea of ukraine as an actual country rather than simply an ethnic group didn't arise until i believe the 1700s? And didn't get any traction at all until the 1800s in the galicia region under the hapsburg empire, which had relatively free expression and actually actively promoted the idea for byzantine political reasons i can't remember. So the inclusion of ukraine in 1468 surprised me. I was hoping reading the reports would show me some alternate universe euro history, and i'd get some real history from that as im pretty ignorant about most of the continent, but if it doesn't start out letter perfect i'll just read for the entertainment.
It starts out pretty accurate, however the mechanics that spawn new countries are usually not depending on date. I think the Ukraine does not have any cores in the 1399 start. But if specific revolters in that region are successful, the Ukraine pops up. Which is quite logical, since if there is a power vacuum in that area, why shouldn't the local ethnicity decide that they want to govern themselves?
Basically, as far as i know, the start date is at least in europe pretty close to history, but very soon afterwards, stuff tends to get wacky. I don't know how good Eu3 is as an actual alternate history simulator.
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The whole point of Eu3 is to rewrite history, so yeah, fuck accuracy gogo become Emperor with Ethiopia!
Also, in remembrance of Fruiscante I played a Berry game (he posted about crushing France with Bar) and killed of France and Castille by 1580 ... nothing says owned like "you lost against Berry".
Nice job on the latest AAR.
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Ukraine starts with cores in HTTT, its not "historically accurate" but I guess its the best they could do in the engine. Ukraine usually only gets formed as part of a peace traty and swallowed again after a few months, so its rarely in the game for longer periods of time.
Back to the succession. Nice writeup, could we get a map of the world and of Alsatian holdings too? I would really like to see how possible it is to unite the germans atm.
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Judging from the starting screenshot I'd say Germany is at least 80 years away, with luck. You need cores on northern and western Germany (Thuringia, Saxony, Brandenburg etc.) so even if you get good missions for vassalizing/integrating this takes a lot of time as you can only diplo annex every so often.
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On January 12 2012 10:34 Monsen wrote:
Judging from the starting screenshot I'd say Germany is at least 80 years away, with luck. You need cores on northern and western Germany (Thuringia, Saxony, Brandenburg etc.) so even if you get good missions for vassalizing/integrating this takes a lot of time as you can only diplo annex every so often.
I diplo-annexed Brandenburg and Saxony, but it only gave cores on Meissen and Niederlausitz(sp?), rather than Brandeburg and Leipzig. So I released them again, minus the cored provinces. Which wasn't ideal really. I think we're just going to have to eat the unlawful penalty for a while.
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On January 12 2012 10:28 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Ukraine starts with cores in HTTT, its not "historically accurate" but I guess its the best they could do in the engine. Ukraine usually only gets formed as part of a peace traty and swallowed again after a few months, so its rarely in the game for longer periods of time.
Back to the succession. Nice writeup, could we get a map of the world and of Alsatian holdings too? I would really like to see how possible it is to unite the germans atm.
northern europe didnt change since 3forms screenshot
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Hm. Has someone got an response from Ramong as to whether he is playing or not?
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nope, but he has been replying in atleast 1 of the eu3 threads at a time after i sent the game to him so he hasnt died or anything
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sorry, missed the PM!
I will take my turn and make an AAR tomorrow
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So I took over February the second 1649 and immediately noticed that I was at war with Pskov, Sweden and Portugal in 1 alliance and with England in another.
6+ infamy and 0 inflation.
8 war exhaustion.
5 traders, 5 diplomats and 5 magistrates.
and a lacking infrastructure.
Decided that I would spend most of my time on internal management and begin getting ready for war with Austria.
Then I noticed this little fellow:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aMiBE.jpg)
Never seen Kurland ingame, didn't even no it was possible.
Anyways, I looked over the statistics for Austria and us, our troops and our vassals:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vcwYn.jpg)
Currently Austria had the bigger army, but we got far more vassals.
Also while France was currently emperor of The Holy Roman Empire and far to strong for us to take on, we wasn't far from being able to take the throne, since we already got Croatia and Siena as our vassals.
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wtf Portugal in HRE!
If we could somehow subjugate Savoy and Bohemia we could take the throne.
Savoy was not in any alliances so a quick war was declared on them.
Bohemia on the other hand was in a union with Austria, another reason to get ready for war with them.
The war with Savoy was quickly won, but for some reason I could not subjugate them and was forced to annex them in hope of the next elector being one of our many vassals:
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Quickly released them as vassals right after annexation because I didn't wanted the +infamy from unlawful territory
How lucky I was, our vassal Hesse became the new elector in HRE.
We now got 3 votes and only needed Bohemia to take the throne from France:
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Apparently France got a new emperor in those short months.
Now I focused on infrastructure and research. I became able to make a grain depot and quickly began making 1.
+ 20% force limit and + 20% maintenance was most welcome if we are to take on Austria.
So while buildings was being built and armies was trained I looked around for easy targets to bolster my ranks of vassals.
My eyes felt on Mecklenburg whose only alliance was with Poland.
I declared war.
Mecklenburg was overrun and taken:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zKoZR.jpg)
and Poland was forced to give up its second most prosperous province, right next our 1 province:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AfMJA.jpg)
and also to release Krakow which was soon made a vassal too!
Years went by, infamy reached 0 and another adviser was chosen.
I also completed our mission of incorporation Ulm into our kingdome:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/e4PBV.jpg)
More years went by with me making more infrastructure and finally we could chose another idea.
I took Grand Army for higher force limits:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BQQIj.jpg)
That plus Grain depot made it possible to raise a bigger army than Austria.
So I began training even more troops.
By now most of my time had gone by, I had gotten churches in all provinces, level 3 or 4 forts, and reached tier 4 in most provinces.
I also got traders in the riches Centre of trades.
Then Austria called me to war for the 10th time with a country that I got a truce with:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hOceG.jpg)
Now was as good a time as ever to break the alliance with them.
We also got a larger army now:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VHApt.jpg)
Though France was still to strong.
The year turned 1669 and my time was up.
Europe looked like this:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ylSYf.jpg)
Not much had changed, though we was much stronger now.
The world:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CiLaT.jpg)
As I said we are now ready for war with the Austria/Bohemia union, if the next in line dares.
But we NEED to become emperor in order to take on France and form Germany.
Pondo is next in line, PM sent with savegame!
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why do you hate austria so much? : D
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so you guys are switching off every 20 years?
What do guys think about switching off when your ruler dies or a new election comes up (that might be too short so like you could get reelected like 3-4 times or something). Before you start you have to say what kind of ruler you are, preferably in line with the ruler stats. You can be some insane ruler that only wants glory in war or something. So he turns into a general and die in battle or something....
Edit: oh this was already mentioned in the first thread haha.
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On January 14 2012 10:57 turdburgler wrote:
why do you hate austria so much? : D
because if we want to form Germany we need to deal with France, they got vassals on some of the provinces we need, and in order to take on Emperor France we need to first take on Austria and Bohemia :D
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BTW, did we take Gilded Iconography at the start of the game? In my first turn I don't recall having a problem with cultural tradition, but in my second turn I noticed a distinct lack of it. AFAIK Gilded Icons should last until 1821. I didn't want to waste stab hits if we'd already done it and something cancelled it so just took Patron of the Arts instead.
P'raps somebody revoked it?
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I don't think we have it, and i don't think we should take it now. Just build 3-4 fine arts academies instead. GI is mostly useful in that period where you can afford to spend all you magistrates, but don't have fine arts academies yet.
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At the dawn of February 1670 Alsace declared war against Austria.
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The english gave large sums in war subsidies to help in the titanic struggle.
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The bloody war likely brought the total death toll to well in the hundreds of thousands but Alsace had gotten the upper hand. Eight Austrian provinces and 350 ducats were ceded to the Alsacian King.
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Many felt Alsace had overextended itself and with the nation utterly exhausted from war revolts were more rampant than ever before. The vetean army however was strong and none challenged them.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5pbS5.jpg)
The King waited patiently for the truce with Bohemia to end in the year 1677. It was then that some documents arose clearly indicating the throne of Bohemia belonged to Alsace! War was declared.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qUON8.jpg)
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This time Austria was dispatched with significantly more ease and Bohemia joined Alsace in personal union after their defeat.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EWSSg.jpg)
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Dreams of becoming the Emperor were over for Walter however. France had a 12 year old king who had taken the position and his death was likely a very long way off. However for his heir there was still work to be done. Four of the electors were either vassals or in a personal union with Alsace yet the whole of europe seemed to have a terrible relationship with the nation.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/emc3F.jpg)
The coffers were full after victories at war so the electors were lavished with gifts.
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But trouble came when Walter died from a swiftly acting sickness. His heir came to the thrown.
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The traitorous Bohemia decided it was time to elect their own King.
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They were quickly shown the error in their ways.
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With war exhaustion subsiding and more provinces becoming at their core Alsacian revolts were seen less often.
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On a fresh winter morning the new king was delighted to learn he had inherited Naples!
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1689
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A little sad to let this game go =/ I'd probably go for Spain at this point but its up to the next guy. Just make sure you adjust the inflation slider on your first year I was getting some inflation down from one of those event popups.
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the real question neither of you 2 have answered is, do you still have that 1 boat i built for our single distant overseas province?!
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On January 15 2012 12:44 turdburgler wrote:
the real question neither of you 2 have answered is, do you still have that 1 boat i built for our single distant overseas province?!
If you are talking about the American colony, then we/I lost that province to rebels that decided to join with England!
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I think I remember seeing we had 1 boat when I was looking at military maintenance though D:
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You guys need to work on your statements. We do not have "1 boat". What we have is the great and unsinkable Flagship of the invincible Alsacian Armada, the "Indomitable".
Also, i notice the great nation of Lithm north of Poland.
There are Spain, Castille and Granada in Spain. Interesting.
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castille is also in america iirc. and i meant that our most southern province in asia is considered distant overseas, so i built a boat :D
i dont think ill ever be as wordy as simberto, so for me it will always be just a boat
i dont even know how we got that american colony to begin with.
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Sorry I have some family events today, by tomorrow I will have the AAR finished though. My apologies.
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i dont feel you are taking the boat seriously enough
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I didn't even know we had a boat. Good to know, I wouldn't be surprised if it became of significant use in my upcoming AAR.
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Only had one real major war in this AAR while the rest was spent building up, improving relations and burning off infamy, hopefully the next person might actually get some interesting stuff
The King of Alsace never seems to get much sleep nowadays. Ever since his father Walter passed away, Rupprecht has had to deal with more diplomats, war councils and budget meetings than he could count. He knew that for the glory of his nation, however, that he would have to continue on being strong.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vlRO3.jpg)
The newly crowned Spanish king still owned a large amount of Anatolia, threatening Alsace’s precarious position there; although Rupprecht had a fearsome navy,
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it was unfortunately unable to carry any large number of troops across the ocean. Alsace needed a land route to Asia.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Iy1Gv.jpg)
War is declared against the Spaniards.
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Austria joins in the fray as well, but spies carefully positioned throughout the Austrian administration before the war begins are able to pinpoint their garrisons and Alsatian regiments are dispatched to intercept each one.
In a short, bloody year, Alsatian troops quickly defeat the Austrian army and occupy huge swaths of her land. The fortresses of Tirol, Wienz and Graz all fall to combined German might.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/T8T2l.jpg)
Austria backs out of the war shortly afterwards after ceding large swaths of Eastern Europe and releasing two Greek states.
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The Spanish expeditionary force in Anatolia is defeated as well, and Alsace soon controls the entire peninsula. Spain itself, meanwhile, is occupied by Alsatian armies through France. This dual occupation causes the Spaniards to quickly accept defeat and cede many of their lands in Asia Minor.
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The remaining Spanish lands, overrun by rebels, reformed as new nations long ago conquered by the Ottomans. These relics, however, are quickly vassalized by the Alsatian expeditionary army in order to facilitate movement through the Dardanelles. The Byzantines, somehow reborn in Constantinople, are similarly dispatched.
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After overseeing the final constructions of fortifications along his new borders next to Austria, Rupprecht breathes a sigh of relief. For the first time, he genuinely feels that his nation is safe. Austria lies broken between the two sides of his empire, the Holy Roman electorate heavily favors his election as Emperor and relations with France have never been better.
Alsace is in an even stronger position now, with holdings throughout Europe and a stranglehold on Anatolia.
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Apologies for the massive images, imgur was allowing me to crop them until the last ten... and I have a test to study for so I can edit it later if it's a problem.
Savegame: http://www.mediafire.com/?1sa34o8862az2pe
I'll PM the person once I know who it is, can't seem to find the list.
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i think its time for a second boat
Bairemuth is next, list is on the first page
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I will need about a day before I can start playing, but I should get things done within 48 hours. Sorry for delay.
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Hm, i think this is pretty unknown, but in a war of independence, you can completely annex the revolting country for 0 infamy. Taking provinces still costs, but complete annexation is free.
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Actually, I'm simply not going to have enough time to do this AAR afterall. In my last semester of my masters and am juggling that with a job, etc. Anywho, I pm'd Bourneq, who is next in line. Sorry guys!
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Ill play when I can, so today or tomorrow!
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Ive got A LOT to do atm. Is it alright if I play and do my AAR tomorrow? If not I pass sorry!
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I think we can wait this additional day - I will have busy week also so taking over day later is no problem for me - but i don't know how do others feel about this
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I love forgetting about these threads, then finding them and getting to read months worth of AARs. It's so exciting!
Then you realize you have to wait days just for one more.
I need my AAR FIX!
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I am so sorry, I thought id have time today but something important came up. Im afraid ill have to pass my turn (didnt sign up for round 2 of Alsace anyway). I pm'd stolat and he will have to take my place this time. Im so sorry guys and girls!
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Its not my turn yet i believe - i will pm next in line however
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noone can play, so i will take over !
GET ready for total mayhem !
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The year 1709 was the year of the change. Our migty ruler KING Leopold knew that if he want to fulfill Gods mission of uniting all German territories into one country - he must act not only with diplomacy, but also with steel.
One day, Leopold took his map of Germania, sat in his Throne and was looking for any German based province he can conquer!
Than he found one! Hamburg was almost left alone and begging for being our first victim. Port in Germany for our ship was a nice idea.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zP0gU.jpg)
Their small forces were no match for us. So we took them down with ease. Siege lasted however more than a year.
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That pleased Leopold so much that he didn`t even care about unlawful territory. To praise the God, he built a small church in Hamburg.
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But his premature satisfaction was punished by GOD himself. That was not enough! Whole nation must be united!!
The beloved Heir died just after the conquest!
That shook Leopold to the bones. But holy Mother knew that our King was good in depth of his heart. His fervent prayers were listened, his sins forgiven and new Heir was given (with nice stats)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nSr2K.jpg)
Leopold knew that he must be bold in order to fulfill promises of his Ancestors. He needed man, steel and new national idea!
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With all this, he was now able to fight with Hamburg former allies - The Hansa. Occupying Hansa's only province in Germany, the wealthy Lubeck was not enough to defeat them. Their had more land in Americas. Our vassals took control of some of their provinces, but King Leopold knew that he must do it himself. He cannot disappoint GOD anymore.
The Glorious Star - our only Great ship ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BhDHS.jpg) , was soon followed by 6 small transport ships, produced in Italy.
The campaign in new World was total success. We managed to conquer Seminole and Cayenne. But it was only Europe and Germany that counted! So peace deal was signed.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/My2hn.jpg)
That gain was approved, and we got another core. Our main goal is closer and closer.
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I`m sorry, I only managed to play 5 years (actually i played twice, first time more than 8 years, I became Emperor, but forgot to make screenshots so it wasn`t worth it). I will not be able to play until Thursday or even Friday - so i think it is better to pass my turn already.
However I would love to play my remaining 15 years after another player if it is possible.
Here is the save
http://www.mediafire.com/?fad0mf05o8sdgeu
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At this point I feel a fair number of people could have a chance at a third turn?
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Hm, Stolat contacted me, but shouldn't it be Ulfsarks turn now, or have i missed something? I will PM Ulfsark.
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On January 25 2012 22:13 Simberto wrote:
Hm, Stolat contacted me, but shouldn't it be Ulfsarks turn now, or have i missed something? I will PM Ulfsark.
On January 22 2012 08:56 Stolat wrote:Its not my turn yet i believe - i will pm next in line however
On January 22 2012 19:04 Stolat wrote:
noone can play, so i will take over !
GET ready for total mayhem !
So I assume Ulfsark coudn't go and its your turn. I believe you wanted to have the last turn and we're quite far from the end? Not that you shouldn't play now. But there's still over a hundred years to go.
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if you guys cant play, i can finish my 15 years on Friday.
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I am a bit busy, so that would be fine with me, then i could play on the weekend.
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I`m done, but i`m so tired i will add everything tomorrow as soon as possible
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It's tomorrow now, I can't wait any longer!
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Here is save game file: http://www.mediafire.com/?2x5p486goqwbe16
I want to add depth into my AAR so it will pop up later (probably late at night)
In few words, our ruler might not be longer capable of doing Great things (why - it will be in AAR), so i left all ways open for next player. I think we have to focus more on creating Germany or we will not succeed.
Being Emperor and having Great relations with almost all of our vassals might be helpful.
GL Simberto !
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Introduction
King Leopold was sitting in a dark cold hall, drinking good Alsatian wine from his cellar.. Some part of him wanted to sing and jump from joy, but he stood calm and quiet. His main task was still in front of him. He realized, that despite all this vassals, advisors and nobles on his court, everything must be made by himself. Suddenly, he moved his hand and the glass fell off the table and broke into million pieces. It was almost evening now, so sun was pouring through the window as always by sunset. Leopold stared at shining pieces on the floor and small portion of red wine near it. That moment was crucial. He understood, what must be done.
-Call for my council now! - he shouted at his Guard.
Guard was so terrified with this sudden shout, that he forgot to say anything. He was back no longer than 5 minutes later, assisted by 3 most trusted man at court.
- What do you see? - he asked as they came through the door.
- Broken glass and wine Your Grace - answered the first one.
- Don`t be fool, i asked you about meaning of this! - he almost shouted at them.
The looked one on each other, but nobody had nothing to say.
- I will tell you. That`s Alsace and all German nations. Shining, but small and weak, surrounded by great enemies, divided and hard to control. Most of them, are our friends, or vassals, but what we are is not a real deal. Some of OUR people are under French occupation, most of them are scared of us but don`t trust us. - Leopold took deep breathe - It is not just mission from GOD. It is even something more! I know exactly what we must do now. Show OUR people power and some respect, prove that we are trustworthy, and capable of great things.
- Yes, my Grace - Advisors still were not sure of what are their King's plans.
- Build new Royal Palace for me! Spare no expenses! Lets show the whole world what Alsace is capable of! Wait, that is not all! Prepare our armies in Asia to war. We will conquer some lands of infidels. But use only small part of our army. Small but well trained! We will strike with precision and conquer! But call for our allies, we will see who will join our little war - said King with passion.
- Yes, my Grace - one of advisors smiled.
- That is still not all. Send our "best" medic to French King. He is old and sick. Make sure that he will not get better anytime soon.
- It will be done - advisors replied.
Preparations took less than a month. 3 armies - 60000 man crossed the border of Syria. Soon after all vassals joined the war.
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Syria was big and strong, but they coudn`t match our army. Our strike was fast and deadly. We defeated quickly their main troops, and assaulted every city on our way.
It took less than two years to build Royal Palace. In addition French King died. That could mean only one thing... Our King became EMPEROR.
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In order to earn some Authority points. Leopold joined Italian provinces into Empire.
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War with Syria was easy. Our troops fought with pleasure! Despite some losses due to constant assaulting of cities, and lots of territories to conquer. With a little help of Bohemia, Epirus, Trebizord, Hesse and other small troops, we managed to occupy all Provinces of Syria. And that is how Al Haas became our Vassal, and we gained some new provinces in Middle East.
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Triumph was what Leopold needed. He was pleased with his gains. All was going well. So he decided to strike again. He chose only country in his way to control whole Little Asia and Balkans.
Thrace was taken in less than a week! It cost us however a lot of infamy points.
During this conquest, Great Britain asked for our help. But we were not ready to another war. Leopold`s plans were somewhere else.
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All this success were not without some major impact on our Kings mind. He became obsessive and impatient. His unnatural behaviour were noticed not only by his family and advisors and led to some problematic situations.
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More good things happened. we gained some cores, which joined Empire immediately.
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However it was getting worse with Leopold health. He went through insanity crisis, he told that he was seeing future, constantly getting signs, prophecies etc. Advisors on court decided not to let this King make any crucial decisions.
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So last years were peaceful and nothing really happened. A lot of money were spend to please vassals inside HRE, Alsace was fighting with infamy, and effects of overextension. Everything was successfully held of. All ways were open in 1729. And everyone wondered is it Leopold to lead Alsace to glory or maybe his Heir?
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I will be playing tomorrow.
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I finished my turn, and will upload the safegame now if someone wants to organize a third round (I won't do it since i think i got a pretty good ending with a + Show Spoiler +, and i also don't really have time to play a third round at the moment.
Also, i am a bit lazy at the moment, so i will take a bit more time with the AAR, and it probably won't be quite as lengthy as the last one.
Safegame: http://www.mediafire.com/?xga6gupc7rju0ug
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its already 1729, doesnt seem worth having a third round
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Actually, it's 1749 after my round. Still enough room left for 3.5 players.
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i need AAR
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Yea that game is indeed quite finished. I didn't even know you could do that whole + Show Spoiler + D: Would really like to see the AAR when you're able.
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When Kaiser Leopold I von Pfalz-Neumark awakened on a cold day in February 1729, he felt different. The clouds in his mind were gone, and he could finally see clear again. For the last years, he had had ever increasing problems with thoughts that were slipping out of his mind the moment he focussed on them, but now from one day to the next , that feeling was gone.
Also, he was hungry and thirsty, and alone. He took a look to his left, and suddenly noticed the crumbled remains of the flowers his faithful wife had brought him a few days ago. In a flash of remembrance, he realized that he had tossed all the drink that was given to him into that beautiful piece of chinaware in a fit of paranoia. Paranoia, which, as the crumbled flowers made perfectly clear, had been entirely justified. He had been slowly poisoned for years, losing his mind bit by bit.
After getting dressed, he once again took firm control over the court. The traitor who poisoned him was quickly found in the Royal Technician Alois von Hodenburg, who , as was quickly determined, had been on the payroll of the king of France for a long time. He was hung by the neck for high treason within an hour. The parasites that had been feeding of the Alsacian and Imperial treasury were quickly dispatched of in a similar matter, like those who administered the support of Alsacian traders (upon firmer checking of their lists dozens of fake accounts which never provided any money back to the state appeared), the obviously incompetent royal Spymaster, and many more.
Then, after the government was cleansed of illoyal elements, the Kaiser prepared his next strike. He knew that the french king hoped to bribe the electors to reelect him as Kaiser, and that that possibility was very real. He declared before the council of electors that the crown of Empire rightfully belonged to Pfalz-Neumark, and that the recent events proofed that France could not be trusted. To avoid any further subversive schemes, the crown of the Kaiser was to stay in the Pfalz-Neumark family forever. Now, the casual reader might be confused as to why the electors would agree to this proposal, which obviously very directly attacked their power. I will be short and say that it took a lot of very complicated political maneuvering, and an incredible amount of bribes of all sorts, and of course also some threats, to get a majority for this proposal. It helped a lot that most of the electors were absolutely dependent on Alsacian troops for their defense.
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Also, he declared that with regards to the new evidence, all treaties with France would be ended, and that the French King Henry V de Bourgogne was no longer his cousin.
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Henry V took this very personally, and declared that Leopold I was not even of completely noble heritage.
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That was the final drop. Kaiser Leopold I could not simply accept such insults. He ordered all of his troops onto the French border, and declared war after only a few weeks of preperations.
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The war was quick, brutal, and onesided. The french army met the Alsacian troops in Stade and Barrois
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and got crushed. After that, the Alsacian troops barely met any more resistance. Every week, news of a new French fortress falling reached the Kaiser, and after only half a year, the formerly great France surrendered unconditionally. But instead of claiming the French territory for his own, the Kaiser only demanded that France releases all of the German territories into semi-sovereignity inside the Empire. And of course that he took back his untrue insults.
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This suddenly made him highly popular with the German nobles, and allowed him to declare that from now on, every war inside the Holy Roman Empire would also be a war against the Kaiser. Nobles should accept his judgement over their quarrels, instead of going to war with each other and weakening the Empire as a whole.
Of course, all of the released states very quickly agreed to swear unbrindled loyalty to the Kaiser personally in exchange for protection against the French.
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Seeing the effectivity of this war, and how popular it had made him throughout the Empire, Leopold I declared a war against Austria with the main goal of making them release all of the surpressed german minorities inside their nation as seperate entities. "Also", he stated, "they stole our flag!"
I think it was quite obvious how that war would end from the beginning. Apparently, the Austrian allies thought the same, and appeared to be suddenly occupied with something else when the Austrian ambassadors demanded that they honour their alliance.
During the last days of that war, the French King Henry V, obviously not quite humiliated enough by the last war, decided to once again spread slanderous lies about the Pfalz-Neumark dynasty.
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Thus, again within half a year, Austria was forced to surrender unconditionally, and had to accept terms pretty similar to those for France.
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Of course, the French insults could not stay unpunished if the Kaiser wanted to keep his credibility, so it was war against the French, once again. Up to this day, scholars still wonder as to why Henry V would provoke Leopold I in such a way. Maybe he believed him to be old and weak, or that the Alsacian troops were in a bad shape after two costly wars.
Both were terribly, terribly wrong. The war was even quicker and more onesided then the last one.
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This time, Kaiser Leopold I would not only demand him to release about a third of the remainder of France as semi-independent states, he also forced Henry V to abdicate in favor of one of his cousins.
Only a month after this war, Leopold I took his final breath, and in a glorious dual crowning ceremony his son Wilhelm Egon I took over both the Alsacian throne and the throne of the imperial Kaiser.
Wilhelm Egon I was a very intelligent man with a gift for statesmenship, a man with a plan. He saw how his father had gradually increased his grip on the Empire, and he intended to further this. But to do this, he could not accept strong animosity against him anywhere in the empire. Thus, he contacted both the Austrian and the new French king, and offered gracious monetary help in rebuilding the countries which were still partially destroyed. Now, he of course knew that a lot of that money would quietly vanish into the coffers of certain high official, and to both crowns, but that was intended. It took him 4 years until he was confident enough of his grip on the imperial throne to order a new council of all imperial states.
During this council, he declared that the Empire needed to be united to be strong to face the new challenges of a new age. To the east, the polish and swedes were known for sending small raiding parties onto imperial ground, and the diverse overseas holdings were under constant threat of the brits and the spaniards. "Thus", he declared, "we are now the sole representator of the entire empire. And if the Kaiser goes to war, the Empire goes to war. And if the Empire goes to war, ALL of the empire goes to war! We hereby revoke the Privilegia of non appelando!" There was a moment of silence in the council room. Then, the duke of Kurland and the bishop of Hainaut left the room in fury. Wilhelm Egon very carefully watched the French and the Austrian King. "As of now, the Empire is at war with the traitors from Kurland and Hainaut. I suggest that you consider very carefully if you want to follow them into their graves. If you will excuse me now, i have a war to fight."
Kaiser Wilhelm Egon I had very carefully planned for this moment. He had spent the last 4 years bribing, enticing, and threatening. He knew full-well that this was the pivotal moment of his fight for unification of the Empire. And it was a full success. All of the Empire except for Kurland and Hainaut signed the new treaties and became de-facto vassals of the imperial throne, losing most of their sovereignity.
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Only three years later, as all gifted rulers, Wilhelm Egon I died in a freak accident involving three camels from arabia, a jester and his dancing bear, a lightning rod and about 150 pounds of ham. It is really better not to delve deeper into this. His significantly less-gifted cousin Armand then took over the imperial throne. At least he had been accompanying Wilhelm Egon on his political journeys and thus knew how the empire worked.
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However, as it turns out, he could also provide legitimate documents which trace the lineage of the house of Pfalz-Neumark back all the way to Julius Caesar himself.
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He somehow managed to use this information to declare himself Kaiser and Caesar of a newly reformed Renovatii Imperii, basically revoking the last ounces of sovereignity the imperial member states had. What had been unimaginable a century before, was now true. The whole Empire was united under von Pfalz-Neumark leadership.
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The rest of the time in this chronic was spent fighting nationalist rebels all over the world, pretty successful for the most part.
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its funny when you look how the game went on, how different peoples expansions chose to be. i think 90% of the land i took while playing with in the middle east, most other people tended to try and influence europe. i dont really see the point of continuing from here on tbh. every power is crushed and we are the hre, and conflicts we enter would be over in seconds. now the french are gone the game is basically over
clearly time for a new game D:
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Well, you can organise one if you want to, i sadly don't have that much time for it at the moment, and apparently each time there are less people who are interested in it.
I also hate how everytime i write an AAR I spent so much time at the beginning, and have so many ideas how i can continue on with it, but then i notice that i already spent 2-3 hours and have only covered less then one year. I seriously think that if i did not get bored and just want to get finished, i would need a month to write an aar for 20 years, and it would be of absurd proportions.
Edit: Also, you can still spent about 20-40 years hunting rebels all over the world^^. It was seriously annoying, when i formed the HRE i had zero transport boats and 22 WE because i forgot a unit somewhere in enemy territory after a war, and colonies all over the world started revolting, and it took 2 years for the first boats to finish building. I cleaned up some of it, but some was still full of rebels when my turn was up.
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gg wp! If anyone organizes a new one please PM me.
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I'd be up for a new game too
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great AAR! I'd love another game, ive got moe time now and im pumped.
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if anyone is interested, we should do one for Victoria 2 aswell
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On February 10 2012 22:58 Reyis wrote:if anyone is interested, we should do one for Victoria 2 aswell
I was just about to post this.
That would be interesting.
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I think we should do a game of Crusader Kings 2! Their newest game realesed 2 days ago!
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On February 16 2012 20:38 Bourneq wrote:
I think we should do a game of Crusader Kings 2! Their newest game realesed 2 days ago!
I'd be up for this. Was watching the EU3 games (the first succesion games actually got me into playing eu3)
I'd say wait a week or 2/3 for everyone to get a bit more comfortable with CK2 though.
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So, everybody comfterable with CK2? I really want to play a succession game with it .
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This was a while back , anybody want to play a succession game in eu3 theese days?
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You could organize one, i just noticed this thread popping up again and had a lot of fun rereading it. I would certainly play in another one.
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