EPTNBA Regular Season 2011-2012 - Page 309
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 14 2012 12:16 Ace wrote: I feel really bad for John Wall. those shooting percentages... they did beat the magic though. now that i think of it, how much can the magic tank in the next 2 weeks now that dwight is injured? | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On April 14 2012 11:02 cLutZ wrote: Nah you want the 4, that way you get the 2nd round rivalry matchup. why play the best series in the second round and not the ECF?  On April 14 2012 12:07 Jerubaal wrote: Pacers are the 3rd seed? I guess I've been oblivious. Then again, the Western Conference could be interesting, but there are only 3 teams that matter in the East. Hmmm I would say more than 3 teams matter in the East. Bulls, Heat, Pacers, Celtics and I would throw the Knicks in there as well. They have been playing extremely well under Woodson. The West will be more boring than the East. SA and OKC are much better than the rest of the conference. Lakers might give one of them a run for their money but I doubt it. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
Why did so many media people (including Charles Barkley, which amazed me) temper their recent Odom criticisms by telling us what a good guy he is? As in, "Look, I like Lamar a lot, but … " What's to like? He stole $8.9 million from the Mavericks this season, openly mailed in games, crapped on his teammates and waved a giant middle finger to their entire fan base while FILMING A REALITY SHOW AS IT WAS HAPPENING. This wasn't one of the most egregious cases of player malpractice in recent sports history? I know he was going through some personal issues, but if that's the case, take an unpaid leave of absence and get yourself together. Don't keep cashing the checks! You know things are bad when even Vince Carter thinks you're quitting on the team — that's like Lindsay Lohan looking down on Amanda Bynes's latest DUI. Why would any Laker fan ever say the words, "Maybe we can get Lamar back next season?" Did you not just see what happened? Why would anyone want this guy? The Mavericks have one of the best four or five organizations in the entire league and Lamar spent three solid months hurling his own feces at them. You want him back? Really? Have we ever seen a non-NBA family wreak havoc on the NBA like the Kardashians just did? Not only did Lamar's career fall apart once he married Khloe, but Kris Humphries's career nearly fell apart when he married Kim (at the very least, that entire saga cost him a lucrative free agent deal). It's just too bad the Kardashians didn't buy the Hornets; they may have finished -6 and 88 next season. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
On April 14 2012 15:48 jmbthirteen wrote: why play the best series in the second round and not the ECF? Hmmm I would say more than 3 teams matter in the East. Bulls, Heat, Pacers, Celtics and I would throw the Knicks in there as well. They have been playing extremely well under Woodson. The West will be more boring than the East. SA and OKC are much better than the rest of the conference. Lakers might give one of them a run for their money but I doubt it. Lakers are pretty underrated this year for me. I think they'll give SA and OKC a real run for their money. Any series between LA and OKC/SA would be 50/50 IMO. Bynum, Gasol and Kobe is a pretty potent offensive core with a lot of experience behind them. Sessions has been a great pick-up too at the point for them. SA maybe has a slight advantage over them because of their roster depth and OKC are young, long and athletic which could hurt the Lakers in 7 games. But with Bynum playing so well and a GOAT level player in Kobe, the Lakers will go far IMO. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
The only real favorite is OKC and they are only SLIGHTLY favored in any potential match up. Literally any team can come out of the West and have a legit shot at the title against Miami or Chicago. The only teams that might not be up to snuff are Houston and Denver. Everyone else is legit. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 14 2012 15:48 jmbthirteen wrote: The West will be more boring than the East. SA and OKC are much better than the rest of the conference. Lakers might give one of them a run for their money but I doubt it. Yea because having below 600 positive records in a god aweful conference makes any team in the playoffs not called the Bulls or Heat (ok maybe Boston to) legit contenders ... Not. The west all the way down to Dallas is alot scarier, come playoff time. ALOT .. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On April 14 2012 16:31 Rebs wrote: Yea because having below 600 positive records in a god aweful conference makes any team in the playoffs not called the Bulls or Heat (ok maybe Boston to) legit contenders ... Not. The west all the way down to Dallas is alot scarier, come playoff time. ALOT .. Derrick Rose will not be 100% in the playoffs, making the Bulls beatable. The Heat have been playing their worst ball of all season down the stretch. They are certainly beatable. The Celtics have been playing some of the best ball in the league since the all star break. The Knicks have been playing outstanding under Woodson. The Pacers have the best record in all of the NBA in April. The East is far more than the Bulls and Heat. They West has ONE more team with an above .600 record than the East dude. And the Hawks are literally one game under .600. This is not the East of past years. It is far more competitive and much more deep. There is a 1 game difference between the 8th seed in the East and West. And if the West is so good, why is the Pacers record against the West significantly better than it is against the East? How are the Lakers, Memphis and Clippers any more of contenders than Boston, Indiana and New York? They aren't. OKC and SA have that conference. SA has the experience and the best coach in basketball. OKC has the talent and have gone deep in the playoffs before. And as good as Bynum can be, he can also be the reason you lose (ie getting ejected against Houston, taking threes). | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On April 14 2012 16:54 jmbthirteen wrote: Derrick Rose will not be 100% in the playoffs, making the Bulls beatable. The Heat have been playing their worst ball of all season down the stretch. They are certainly beatable. The Celtics have been playing some of the best ball in the league since the all star break. The Knicks have been playing outstanding under Woodson. The Pacers have the best record in all of the NBA in April. The East is far more than the Bulls and Heat. They West has ONE more team with an above .600 record than the East dude. And the Hawks are literally one game under .600. This is not the East of past years. It is far more competitive and much more deep. There is a 1 game difference between the 8th seed in the East and West. And if the West is so good, why is the Pacers record against the West significantly better than it is against the East? How are the Lakers, Memphis and Clippers any more of contenders than Boston, Indiana and New York? They aren't. OKC and SA have that conference. SA has the experience and the best coach in basketball. OKC has the talent and have gone deep in the playoffs before. And as good as Bynum can be, he can also be the reason you lose (ie getting ejected against Houston, taking threes). You're answering your own question without even realizing it. How are western conference teams supposed to be above 600 when they are in the more competitive conference? Eastern Conference powerhouses get to feast on 4 game series with the likes of the Bobcats, Nets, Pistons, Wizards, Raptors and Cavaliers. While the West has ONE bottom feeder team in the Hornets and the Hornets were good enough to beat Eastern Conference teams already this season. Records are deceiving when so many more of the wins being accumulated are against the worst teams in the league who all happen to occupy the same conference. To give you an idea of the teams that are currently NOT in the Western Conference playoffs, we have: Kings Timberwolves Suns (barely) Trail Blazers Hornets Warriors Jazz Each of those teams would be good enough for an 8th seed in the East especially Phoenix the way they're playing now. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On April 14 2012 17:02 Vindicare605 wrote: You're answering your own question without even realizing it. How are western conference teams supposed to be above 600 when they are in the more competitive conference? Eastern Conference powerhouses get to feast on 4 game series with the likes of the Bobcats, Nets, Pistons, Wizards, Raptors and Cavaliers. While the West has ONE bottom feeder team in the Hornets and the Hornets were good enough to beat Eastern Conference teams already this season. Records are deceiving when so many more of the wins being accumulated are against the worst teams in the league who all happen to occupy the same conference. To give you an idea of the teams that are currently NOT in the Western Conference playoffs, we have: Kings Timberwolves Suns (barely) Trail Blazers Hornets Warriors Jazz Each of those teams would be good enough for an 8th seed in the East especially Phoenix the way they're playing now. Oh come on thats just bull shit. The Kings are not a playoff team at all or close to it. I live in Sacramento and go to games. They do not belong in any playoffs. They have a worse record than Cleveland. The Twolves are not a playoff team since Rubio has gone down for the season. The Blazers have been bad the second half of the season. I really don't see anyone in the top 8 of the East they are better than. They would be like the Bucks. The Warriors are god awful, especially since the trade. The Hornets are horrible as well. The Jazz and Phoenix would compete for an 8th seed in the East just like they are doing in the West right now. The East has two horrific teams in Charlotte and Washington while the West has one in New Orleans. Cleveland has fallen off due to injuries late in the year, but earlier on they weren't that bad. If you seriously think all those teams could get the 8th seed in the East, you are clueless and haven't watched enough basketball this year. The East is 8 deep, the West is 10 deep (as in playoff teams. If the Bucks made the trade sooner, that might have made it 9). If the West is so good, why have the Pacers done better against the West than the East? The conferences are much much closer in skill than you are making it out to be. The East is FAR better than it was just a year ago. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
So naturally... the Warriors appear to be interested in him at the SF pos for next year. Sounds like a winning plan. Player quits on the defending champs? Send him to Oakland! | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On April 14 2012 17:43 jmbthirteen wrote: Oh come on thats just bull shit. The Kings are not a playoff team at all or close to it. I live in Sacramento and go to games. They do not belong in any playoffs. They have a worse record than Cleveland. The Twolves are not a playoff team since Rubio has gone down for the season. The Blazers have been bad the second half of the season. I really don't see anyone in the top 8 of the East they are better than. They would be like the Bucks. The Warriors are god awful, especially since the trade. The Hornets are horrible as well. The Jazz and Phoenix would compete for an 8th seed in the East just like they are doing in the West right now. The East has two horrific teams in Charlotte and Washington while the West has one in New Orleans. Cleveland has fallen off due to injuries late in the year, but earlier on they weren't that bad. If you seriously think all those teams could get the 8th seed in the East, you are clueless and haven't watched enough basketball this year. The East is 8 deep, the West is 10 deep (as in playoff teams. If the Bucks made the trade sooner, that might have made it 9). If the West is so good, why have the Pacers done better against the West than the East? The conferences are much much closer in skill than you are making it out to be. The East is FAR better than it was just a year ago. To be fair, about half those listed teams have mailed it in and quit for the 2nd half of the season. The Warriors would not have traded Monta if they played in the East (their record was pretty similar to the Bucks when the trade was made). Portland is playing for the future as are the Kings (plus a new location lol sorry), NOLA is legitimately bad. The Jazz, and Suns would squeak into the playoffs at like 6-8 seeds if they played in the East. The T-Wolves with Rubio would probably be higher (it's fun to think about, but there's no way to prove it ofc). | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7811280/toronto-raptors-andrea-bargnani-done-season-due-calf | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
The West is exciting because the Lakers, Grizzlies, and Mavericks all have potential for a deep play off run. Nobody in the East outside of Boston has a snowball's chance in hell of beating Chicago or Miami. And can we please stop overhyping the Knicks? | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
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ecstatica
United States542 Posts
On April 15 2012 07:26 AntiGrav1ty wrote: Yup, i dont see anybody beating the heat or the bulls in the east. In the west however everything is up for grabs. I dont see anyone beating LA in the west. Woohoooo east owns west! | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On April 15 2012 10:44 ecstatica wrote: I dont see anyone beating LA in the west. Woohoooo east owns west! I'm confused by these statements. | ||
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VENDIZ
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rei
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