EPTNBA Regular Season 2011-2012 - Page 124
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Oreuck
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 11 2012 13:49 AntiGrav1ty wrote: Knicks just look so much stronger without Amare and Melo. Not contender-strong, but strong. Good ballmovement and penetration, good screens and Pick and rolls, good double teams and hard rotations. With two out of five players not buying in to that they wont be able to keep this streak up. Actually everyone except Lin and Chandler still look like complete shit. Good ball movement is only as valuable as having guys who can make something happen with it. | ||
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Riyomori
Singapore316 Posts
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On February 11 2012 14:06 Ace wrote: Actually everyone except Lin and Chandler still look like complete shit. Good ball movement is only as valuable as having guys who can make something happen with it. Thats the point. Good ballmovement and working hard on defense can compensate for lack of offensive talent. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Pieismyign
United States176 Posts
On February 11 2012 14:06 Ace wrote: Actually everyone except Lin and Chandler still look like complete shit. Good ball movement is only as valuable as having guys who can make something happen with it. Novak and shumpert are looking pretty good and fields just needs to get his shot back. | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On February 11 2012 13:42 rei wrote: wtf is happening? can some one fill me in on who is lin? where and how and waht did he do? another 7'6 chinese man? he's a guard from california... | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
Still can't believe Hibbert made the AS game =/ | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On February 11 2012 15:34 RowdierBob wrote: Ok, I'm officially on the Lin bandwagon now. I had my doubts, but the Lakers are a good team and he killed them. Really going to be interesting to see how the Knicks play when Melo comes back. I hate to break it to you, but our guard defense has been HORRID this season, it's been horrid for a while now when I think about it. JJ BAREA killed us in the playoffs last year, and he's short, slow and lacks an outside shot. It's been the achilles heel of this team now for the last two seasons it's just much worse now with Mike Brown at the helm and Lamar Odom and Shannon Brown gone. Lin's good, I'm not trying to deny that but he isn't breaking new ground by being a point guard that's picked apart the Lakers. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On February 11 2012 17:03 Vindicare605 wrote: I hate to break it to you, but our guard defense has been HORRID this season, it's been horrid for a while now when I think about it. JJ BAREA killed us in the playoffs last year, and he's short, slow and lacks an outside shot. It's been the achilles heel of this team now for the last two seasons it's just much worse now with Mike Brown at the helm and Lamar Odom and Shannon Brown gone. Lin's good, I'm not trying to deny that but he isn't breaking new ground by being a point guard that's picked apart the Lakers. your point guards are fisher and steve blake, you almost expect to get dumped on by opposing pgs every game. lol | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On February 11 2012 17:03 Vindicare605 wrote: I hate to break it to you, but our guard defense has been HORRID this season, it's been horrid for a while now when I think about it. JJ BAREA killed us in the playoffs last year, and he's short, slow and lacks an outside shot. It's been the achilles heel of this team now for the last two seasons it's just much worse now with Mike Brown at the helm and Lamar Odom and Shannon Brown gone. Lin's good, I'm not trying to deny that but he isn't breaking new ground by being a point guard that's picked apart the Lakers. Lin had been getting a majority of his points on layups from the first 3 games as a starter. The Lakers did a good job forcing him to shoot and played him tough when he drove. He adjusted to the Lakers' defense beautifully - he made some tough shots and, more importantly, didn't shy away from contact and went to the foul line for points. No one expected Fisher to play a lick of defense on him. What makes the Lakers victory different from the first 3 is that 1. Lakers are top 10 in defense (#10, specifically) 2. Lakers clogged the paint and took away Lin's pick n roll play with Chandler + made driving into the lane difficult ...And despite all that, Lin managed a career high. How incredible is that? Assuming Lin shot sub-par or simply normal from outside, he would have still gotten over 23 points. He's the real deal. | ||
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KillAudio
1364 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On February 11 2012 17:23 StyLeD wrote: Lin had been getting a majority of his points on layups from the first 3 games as a starter. The Lakers did a good job forcing him to shoot and played him tough when he drove. He adjusted to the Lakers' defense beautifully - he made some tough shots and, more importantly, didn't shy away from contact and went to the foul line for points. No one expected Fisher to play a lick of defense on him. What makes the Lakers victory different from the first 3 is that 1. Lakers are top 10 in defense (#10, specifically) 2. Lakers clogged the paint and took away Lin's pick n roll play with Chandler + made driving into the lane difficult ...And despite all that, Lin managed a career high. How incredible is that? Assuming Lin shot sub-par or simply normal from outside, he would have still gotten over 23 points. He's the real deal. Lin had what? I think like 12 points in the first quarter? Mike Brown was content on letting Derek Fisher guard him for the first half before finally putting Matt Barnes (our best perimiter defender besides Kobe) on him. But our defense from our bigs was garbage today and our team's defense isn't the same without them. I think even the team knew that. I could use the excuse that Bynum and Gasol came out with low energy because they're on the second of a back to back but that excuse has never flown in the NBA so I won't use it. But point being, our defense is only top tier when our bigs play well and they weren't today. They were late on rotations, comitted several silly fouls and just overall seemed sluggish all game. Like I said earlier. If it wasn't for Kobe the Knicks woulda beat the Lakers by 20 points or more, we had no business being down by 3 in the 4th. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On February 11 2012 17:16 Doraemon wrote: your point guards are fisher and steve blake, you almost expect to get dumped on by opposing pgs every game. lol I'm still surprised that Rose was contained to as few as he was in the first game of the season. | ||
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
- Lin owned the Jazz and people said Al Jeffersons defense is bad and against a real shotblocker Lin wont be able to drive. - Lin owned the Wizards with John Wall + McGee the leading shot blocker in the league and people said he cant make the outside shot and cant finish with the left. - Lin owned the Lakers driving past two legit 7-footers, making a couple of 3s and sinking a bunch of range twos. Whats next? Right now I wouldnt be surprised if he made five Dunks driving to his left against the Heat :D I'm aware that Lin wont keep this up forever and I'm not trying to hype his skills. But life is too short to be spoiling the fun all the time. Just enjoy the Lin ride as long as it lasts. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Also, Kobe guarded Lin in that 4th quarter late in the game. Kobe tried to pressure him, jumped early to cut off his right side and Lin just blew past him. He was carving up the entire team sans Barnes who got hit with some dumb foul calls. | ||
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cHaNg-sTa
United States1058 Posts
Do I expect him to keep up this torrid place? No. But I very well expect him to perform extremely well. Only time will tell how Melo and Amare will play with him. He reminds me of a raw version of Steve Nash but more athletic, so I think he'll work with Amare just fine, but with Melo, it could be worrisome as Melo loves to play isolation. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
As a spectator, I'm hoping for the best. | ||
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