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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 05:44:01
July 19 2012 05:25 GMT
#2221
The Flyers have signed Shea Webber to a 14 year contracts estimated to be well north of $100 million in value. Nashville has 7 days to match but I cannt see them doing it.


Kevin Bieksa‏@kbieksa3


#Weber‬ ‪#offersheet‬ @Ryan_Kesler Now that's an offer sheet Kes! Makes yours look like 2 three year olds bartering for the red lego...

In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 19 2012 08:36 GMT
#2222
So what I get from that is:
1) Pronger is done in hockey
2) Holmgren continues his wild changes in terms of team building and I kind of dig that kind of level of pro-activity
3) It will be harder for the owners to try to stiff the players with this and the sutter/parise contracts, if I were the NHLPA Id show this contract down their faces in the negotiations
4) If I was a Devils fans I'd be even madder, considering the price they paid for Kovy and the kind of bullshit first Minny and now the Flyers might get away with

ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
July 19 2012 13:07 GMT
#2223
fuck i love the flyers
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 19 2012 15:22 GMT
#2224
If you were in the Preds shoes, what would you do? two 1st pick (is that correct?) may be tempting (even if the Flyers end with high picks). Its possible Weber doesn't want ot stay, in which case this may be the best they can get in return
Gladiator MG
Profile Joined June 2012
United States178 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 19:06:02
July 19 2012 19:03 GMT
#2225
Just saw Weber might be going to Philly. Would fit him great, being a dirty player and all.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
July 19 2012 20:18 GMT
#2226
On July 20 2012 00:22 XenOmega wrote:
If you were in the Preds shoes, what would you do? two 1st pick (is that correct?) may be tempting (even if the Flyers end with high picks). Its possible Weber doesn't want ot stay, in which case this may be the best they can get in return

The compinsation for a $7,835,220 or higher anual salary is 4 1st round picks. I'm pretty sure Webber is making more then 7,835,220 per year with this new contract. If hes not then its 2 first rounders, a second rounder and a third rounder.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17443 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 21:26:39
July 19 2012 21:07 GMT
#2227
Burke won't sign players to offer sheets because he says its "dirty thing to do to other teams".
Burke won't sign players to contracts longer than 5 years because it circumvents the salary cap rules of the NHL and is "unethical".

This Flyers deal breaks both of Burke's holy rules of free agent signing.

Burke is going to "ethical" his way right out of a job.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
July 19 2012 21:16 GMT
#2228
the devs had 4 years of $1m in their first offer, and it took him to 43 or so

this is still lolholyfuckinshit though. homer gone nuts.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
July 20 2012 15:23 GMT
#2229
Its gonna be a very intresting next 5 days. Theirs alot of things that can happen. Technically Nashville can sign Webber to a different contract and auto void the offer sheet. If they walked into his agents office and said we are prepared to match the offer sheet that may scare the webber camp into signing a much shorter contract with the Preds(shorter, not cheaper, cheaper wont fly)
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
July 20 2012 15:36 GMT
#2230
im like 99% sure that they have to match that exact offer and dont have that option.

PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 20 2012 15:38 GMT
#2231
Super interesting. I think the league might step in and kibosh this 14 year front loaded contract. I wonder what happens to Webber's rights in such a situation.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
July 20 2012 17:39 GMT
#2232
I don't see any reason they would. It's total legal. Butt fucking a cash strapped team isn't against the rules. It adheres to everything in the cba now

SEASON NHL SALARY S. BONUS CAP HIT
2012-13 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2013-14 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2014-15 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2015-16 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2016-17 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $7,857,142
2017-18 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $7,857,142
2018-19 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2019-20 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2020-21 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2021-22 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2022-23 $3,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2023-24 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2024-25 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2025-26 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 20 2012 17:46 GMT
#2233
On July 21 2012 02:39 Hawk wrote:
I don't see any reason they would. It's total legal. Butt fucking a cash strapped team isn't against the rules. It adheres to everything in the cba now

SEASON NHL SALARY S. BONUS CAP HIT
2012-13 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2013-14 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2014-15 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2015-16 $14,000,000 $13,000,000 $7,857,142
2016-17 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $7,857,142
2017-18 $12,000,000 $8,000,000 $7,857,142
2018-19 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2019-20 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2020-21 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2021-22 $6,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2022-23 $3,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2023-24 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2024-25 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142
2025-26 $1,000,000 $0 $7,857,142


Short memory?

Kovalchuk contract rejected by NHL
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 18:03:44
July 20 2012 17:58 GMT
#2234
That was rejected because he'd be 43 or 44 when it ended, and because he would have been paid $7m over the last seven seasons.

That original Kovy deal also brought this rule change:


1. While players and clubs can continue to negotiate long-term contracts (five years or longer) that include contract years in a player's 40s, for purposes of salary-cap calculation the contract will effectively be cut off in the year of the contract in which the player turns 41.

Homer structured the deal to get in just under the Kovy Rule. It also tapers off no more than any of the other 10 year+ contracts

also relevent news: the nba is expected to ok ads on jerseys for next season. Hopefully this dumb shit doesnt bleed over to other sports
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
July 20 2012 20:40 GMT
#2235
Gagner avoid arbitration today with a $3.4 for one year. Pretty solid. I think he can be a very good 2C.

Flaccid! Weigh in!
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17443 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 17:42:27
July 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#2236
Where is Shane Doan going?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/18510/morning-links-doan-hossa-and-more

There is really no need to travel to all of these cities.
This "dog and pony show" is intended to send a clear signal to Greg Jamison that he needs to come up with the cash. Otherwise, he should do the right thing and admit he does not have the resources to buy and run the team.

Peladeau, an M&A vulture, must be really low balling Bettman. lol
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 17:48:42
July 23 2012 17:47 GMT
#2237
On July 20 2012 06:16 Hawk wrote:
the devs had 4 years of $1m in their first offer, and it took him to 43 or so

this is still lolholyfuckinshit though. homer gone nuts.


I don't know man, it fits right into everything else he's ever done.

On July 21 2012 02:58 Hawk wrote:
That was rejected because he'd be 43 or 44 when it ended, and because he would have been paid $7m over the last seven seasons.

That original Kovy deal also brought this rule change:


1. While players and clubs can continue to negotiate long-term contracts (five years or longer) that include contract years in a player's 40s, for purposes of salary-cap calculation the contract will effectively be cut off in the year of the contract in which the player turns 41.

Homer structured the deal to get in just under the Kovy Rule. It also tapers off no more than any of the other 10 year+ contracts

also relevent news: the nba is expected to ok ads on jerseys for next season. Hopefully this dumb shit doesnt bleed over to other sports


On practice jerseys I'm okay with it. The Maple Leafs did it for a few seasons, but on the actual jersey? FUCK NO.
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
July 23 2012 17:56 GMT
#2238
On July 24 2012 02:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Where is Shane Doan going?

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/18510/morning-links-doan-hossa-and-more

There is really no need to travel to all of these cities.
This "dog and pony show" is intended to send a clear signal to Greg Jamison that he needs to come up with the cash. Otherwise, he should do the right thing and admit he does not have the resources to buy and run the team.

Peladeau, an M&A vulture, must be really low balling Bettman. lol


You're exactly right. He's just killing time to see if the Coyotes can come up with the cash. I don't believe that he really wants to go elsewhere unless he absolutely has to. Otherwise, I can see him going to a contender for cheap. The Rangers could use him, for sure.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
July 23 2012 18:14 GMT
#2239
Well well, this is interesting:

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Rick Nash trade to New York Rangers in process now. Details to follow.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
July 23 2012 18:25 GMT
#2240
So much for Doan. WOW. Can't wait to see what they gave up for him.
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