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On July 19 2012 19:01 crappen wrote:
Oh no :s This is sad news for me indeed, as I was really looking forward too a new era of CS.
I just dont understand making videogames these days, are they incapable of finding out WHAT made the previous successor so good and keep it in that direction? Its like they find something good, and do the opposite. Maybe the customerbase they are trying to nail, are indeed the opposite of us. Who wants to make a game that lives on for 10 years
Because YOU won't allow them to. Unless they make an exact carbon copy replica of the game you won't like it. That's whats wrong. It's not the developers. It's the consumer. And there's plenty of us that don't want a carbon copy of 1.6. If you wanna play 1.6 go do it. Just like if you think sc2 should be more like bw then go play bw. Everything is better and had more mysticism when you're younger. Everything feels different. You can't compare how a video game felt when you were 13 to how it feels when you're 22 (just random numbers).
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On July 19 2012 22:21 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 19:01 crappen wrote:
Oh no :s This is sad news for me indeed, as I was really looking forward too a new era of CS.
I just dont understand making videogames these days, are they incapable of finding out WHAT made the previous successor so good and keep it in that direction? Its like they find something good, and do the opposite. Maybe the customerbase they are trying to nail, are indeed the opposite of us. Who wants to make a game that lives on for 10 years Because YOU won't allow them to. Unless they make an exact carbon copy replica of the game you won't like it. That's whats wrong. It's not the developers. It's the consumer. And there's plenty of us that don't want a carbon copy of 1.6. If you wanna play 1.6 go do it. Just like if you think sc2 should be more like bw then go play bw. Everything is better and had more mysticism when you're younger. Everything feels different. You can't compare how a video game felt when you were 13 to how it feels when you're 22 (just random numbers).
That's not true. I for myself don't want carbon copies. But that doesn't mean they have to switch the whole game up because than it's a completly new game and not a follower. A follower has to be innovative but to remain the things that maked the old game unique. In this time, always every time they fail on the second part and that's a shame. I think it's half and half: One half is consumers wanting an exact copy and the other half is the company failing to remain the unique things.
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On July 19 2012 18:52 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 18:41 Neurosis wrote:On July 19 2012 18:33 dafnay wrote:
The game is awful , a total disgrace to the counter strike title and players , it will fail way more than css and even cscz. I don't think it's as bad as Source was. Obviously it's nowhere near as good as 1.6 though. The hitboxes are WORSE then Source. I swear its amazingly bad.
wait, what about them is worse than source?
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Been trying for a key since source came out it feels like...
please god hit me up
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I always have crazy dreams so this was normal for me but last night I had a dream I got to meet Gabe at valve headquarters on their awesome tours thing. It was like meeting the godfather... I had like 2 minutes and it was the greatest thing that ever happened to me we were like best friends .... then a ton of people were rushing me out and I quickly yelled can I get a beta key .... and he said yes 1 game quickly I said CS GO... I was so disappointed waking up without a CS go beta key =( also disappointed in myself not asking about HL3
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On July 26 2012 06:46 ToguRo wrote:
I always have crazy dreams so this was normal for me but last night I had a dream I got to meet Gabe at valve headquarters on their awesome tours thing. It was like meeting the godfather... I had like 2 minutes and it was the greatest thing that ever happened to me we were like best friends .... then a ton of people were rushing me out and I quickly yelled can I get a beta key .... and he said yes 1 game quickly I said CS GO... I was so disappointed waking up without a CS go beta key =( also disappointed in myself not asking about HL3
If you send me a pm with your email or steam name and wake up again in 7 hourse things might look better 
key sent, hf 
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I have been trying to get a key since it was announced haha, even started playing 1.6 more to get a better chance at winning one through survey. If anyone has a spare i would be extremely grateful.
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just wanted to say Broodwurst is an awesome dude for giving me a beta key !!!!!!
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Umm im pretty sure i have a spare beta game. pm me your name and ill send you it anyone
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On July 19 2012 18:52 Disengaged wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 18:41 Neurosis wrote:On July 19 2012 18:33 dafnay wrote:
The game is awful , a total disgrace to the counter strike title and players , it will fail way more than css and even cscz. I don't think it's as bad as Source was. Obviously it's nowhere near as good as 1.6 though. The hitboxes are WORSE than Source not 1.6. I swear its amazingly bad.
Whenever people do nothing but continually compare a 2012 game to a 1998 game, you know nothing will ever satisfy them. Cs is dead, and will never be big again, not because subsequent versions are bad, but because people do nothing but compare it to their nostalgiac, rose-colored versions of playing 1.6 when they were 11 years old. I don't know why anyone even bothers trying to make a new CS at this point, they will never satisfy people. One half want CoD, one half wants 1.6.1. The good players want 1.6.1 and the "high" skill level drives off the CoD people.
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On July 27 2012 09:36 YODA_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 18:52 Disengaged wrote:On July 19 2012 18:41 Neurosis wrote:On July 19 2012 18:33 dafnay wrote:
The game is awful , a total disgrace to the counter strike title and players , it will fail way more than css and even cscz. I don't think it's as bad as Source was. Obviously it's nowhere near as good as 1.6 though. The hitboxes are WORSE than Source not 1.6. I swear its amazingly bad. Whenever people do nothing but continually compare a 2012 game to a 1998 game, you know nothing will ever satisfy them. Cs is dead, and will never be big again, not because subsequent versions are bad, but because people do nothing but compare it to their nostalgiac, rose-colored versions of playing 1.6 when they were 11 years old. I don't know why anyone even bothers trying to make a new CS at this point, they will never satisfy people. One half want CoD, one half wants 1.6.1. The good players want 1.6.1 and the "high" skill level drives off the CoD people.
Pretty much true. The FPS community is hurting bad, and it's all self-inflcited. We have decent figuredheads within ESEA.. it's just the nostalgia-driven generation and the admittedly bad new-gen FPS. REALLY hoping CS:GO will sort of create a bridge between these barriers. Doubtful, but one can only be optimistic about such things.
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On July 27 2012 11:38 Maedi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 09:36 YODA_ wrote:On July 19 2012 18:52 Disengaged wrote:On July 19 2012 18:41 Neurosis wrote:On July 19 2012 18:33 dafnay wrote:
The game is awful , a total disgrace to the counter strike title and players , it will fail way more than css and even cscz. I don't think it's as bad as Source was. Obviously it's nowhere near as good as 1.6 though. The hitboxes are WORSE than Source not 1.6. I swear its amazingly bad. Whenever people do nothing but continually compare a 2012 game to a 1998 game, you know nothing will ever satisfy them. Cs is dead, and will never be big again, not because subsequent versions are bad, but because people do nothing but compare it to their nostalgiac, rose-colored versions of playing 1.6 when they were 11 years old. I don't know why anyone even bothers trying to make a new CS at this point, they will never satisfy people. One half want CoD, one half wants 1.6.1. The good players want 1.6.1 and the "high" skill level drives off the CoD people. Pretty much true. The FPS community is hurting bad, and it's all self-inflcited. We have decent figuredheads within ESEA.. it's just the nostalgia-driven generation and the admittedly bad new-gen FPS. REALLY hoping CS:GO will sort of create a bridge between these barriers. Doubtful, but one can only be optimistic about such things.
the FPS community is hurting bad because of call of duty
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How do you criticize people for being nostalgic while admitting that the newer games are shit in the same sentence?
There are a fuckton of games I have nostalgic memories with, but for good reasons I don't want them to be eSports titles. Command&Conquer was ultracool back in the day, but do I want to watch that? Hell no.
1.6 on the other hand is pretty much the perfect title for it's genre (tactical team shooter). GO is not.
And how is this all self-inflicted? Did you see the viewer numbers at the last cebit (IEM final)? 1.6 is dead because of corporate interests, you hardly can make any money with it, not because of the players and fans doing anything wrong.
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On July 27 2012 11:38 Maedi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 09:36 YODA_ wrote:On July 19 2012 18:52 Disengaged wrote:On July 19 2012 18:41 Neurosis wrote:On July 19 2012 18:33 dafnay wrote:
The game is awful , a total disgrace to the counter strike title and players , it will fail way more than css and even cscz. I don't think it's as bad as Source was. Obviously it's nowhere near as good as 1.6 though. The hitboxes are WORSE than Source not 1.6. I swear its amazingly bad. Whenever people do nothing but continually compare a 2012 game to a 1998 game, you know nothing will ever satisfy them. Cs is dead, and will never be big again, not because subsequent versions are bad, but because people do nothing but compare it to their nostalgiac, rose-colored versions of playing 1.6 when they were 11 years old. I don't know why anyone even bothers trying to make a new CS at this point, they will never satisfy people. One half want CoD, one half wants 1.6.1. The good players want 1.6.1 and the "high" skill level drives off the CoD people. Pretty much true. The FPS community is hurting bad, and it's all self-inflcited. We have decent figuredheads within ESEA.. it's just the nostalgia-driven generation and the admittedly bad new-gen FPS. REALLY hoping CS:GO will sort of create a bridge between these barriers. Doubtful, but one can only be optimistic about such things.
You can't bridge the gap between CoD kiddies and the CS competitive scene, they want COMPLETELY different games. The only similarity between what the two want is that they want it to be a modern military setting, that's it. Every other aspect of what each group wants is different, and that's absolutely fine, but when you have companies trying to create games that cater to both crowds it's not going to end well. CoD players will generally be somewhat more open to the changes than the 1.6 scene will be simply because the changes they make to cater to the 1.6 crowd affect the CoD players far less than the reverse. I just honestly believe that what Valve is trying to do with CS:GO CANNOT be done.
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Still wanting a key. Im sitting in fetal position while spamming refresh.
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Belgium9950 Posts
Still wanna try this out, if anyone has a spare key..
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Trust me, stop begging for a key because when you get it you WILL be disappointed. This game is far from ready and FAR from any CS you've ever played. It is only mildly fun and the hit boxes/accuracy are what 95% of CS gamers will refer to as "garbage". I was just like you, begging to try the game, please take comfort in the fact that it is not special.
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