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Blackjack11
Profile Joined January 2014
Bulgaria0 Posts
December 11 2014 18:28 GMT
#17281
On December 12 2014 03:17 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 03:13 Blackjack11 wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:51 Probemicro wrote:
If armor is buffed this patch enemies would also benefit and be more resilient to phy dmg now.

And I was pretty much speaking from an EK perspective and if 100% conversion to lightning is possible, most likely with the help of a new unique chernobog equivalent. And yeah curse on hit allows you to apply multiple curses so easily these days.


As a matter of fact , buffing armor would also buff 2 handers , which solves 2 problems with a 1 change.

But just a bit, imo the biggest problem of 2 handers is the ridiculous elemental dmg of some bosses and occassionally also from rares. I mean, there always has been immortal call for physical dmg reduction if needed.


I think 2 hander issues are a bit over exaggerated , my irl buddie played a 2hand cycloner to 98 in invasion and it was the league with most burst elemental damage so far. I think 2 handers are very underrated in challenge leagues , because getting a hold of an insane 1hander , especially a crit one is a feature available only to parent leagues. The biggest downside of 2handers in challenge HC leagues is the fact that its hard to overcap resists and u lose some life. Another huge downside is how good block is , but thats more of a "block is strong" than 2h are weak issue.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 11 2014 18:35 GMT
#17282
Rather unhyped so far, I'm not seeing much stuff that looks broken and fun unlike previous leagues. ;;

LAG WILL YOU BE AROUND?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
December 11 2014 18:39 GMT
#17283
I haven't seen Lag in more than a month.
SO LAG WILL YOU BE AROUND ?
AND WHO'S ROLLING NEW SC LEAGUE WITH ME.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 18:45:14
December 11 2014 18:41 GMT
#17284
Well first you still have enfeeble to get rid of damage.

I just hope for a good HC challange, I want to die a lot. I still hope they add elemental weakness to shadow as a quest reward. It would make my life so much easier during leveling till I can use what I want to use. And yes I lvl specral throw, LMP, wrath, anger and all I need is a fast 1 hander. The dps is insane and i dont have give a shit special stats on gear. just any fast weapon will do the job and it gets just better and better.

ps: GL SC, lets see if you can pull this time the first lvl 100 out.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 18:44:46
December 11 2014 18:44 GMT
#17285
I'm probably gonna be running
coc discharge
so u prolly don't wanna party with me vndestiny
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 11 2014 18:45 GMT
#17286
On December 12 2014 03:41 tadL wrote:
Well first you still have enfeeble to get rid of damage.

I just hope for a good HC challange, I want to die a lot. I still hope they add elemental weakness to shadow as a quest reward. It would make my life so much easier during leveling till I can use what I want to use. And yes I lvl specral throw, LMP, wrath, anger and all I need is a fast 1 hander. The dps is insane and i dont have give a shit special stats on gear. just any fast weapon will do the job and it gets just better and better.

Doesn't everyone get Elemental Weakness from Cruel Library? Last I checked wiki had it wrong, but I dunno if it was Shadow.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
December 11 2014 18:46 GMT
#17287
last time i checked it it did not and so i dont care about this part till it gives me cast on damage taken ^^
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
December 11 2014 18:58 GMT
#17288
On December 12 2014 03:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm probably gonna be running
coc discharge
so u prolly don't wanna party with me vndestiny

DAMN IT SNO STOP PLAYING OP STUFF PLS

I'm still very unsure on what to play. I play most of the attack build already, a couple of totems one, a few caster here & there, so kinda bored now. Did really play a romira incinerate-feed discharge, bought most of the gears and everything but can't because my comp sucks so I'm still quite upset about that.
Oh yah haven't played any bow char, but physical bow kinda meh. Did theory craft a low life BM Windripper awhile ago with 13 auras and stuff, but they nerf it, also Windripper is prob gonna rise up in price again in this new league.
I'm waiting for the patch note to see any fun stuff comes out. Not really impress with any of the spell atm except for discharge, the one I can't play. Greattttt.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 11 2014 19:05 GMT
#17289
On December 12 2014 03:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm probably gonna be running
coc discharge
so u prolly don't wanna party with me vndestiny

It's not until you play CoC until you find out which of your friends has shitty PCs. Wise choice my friend, wise choice!

(On a more serious node holy shit did I get yelled at for my CoC last league. So undeserved, I didn't even use Ball Lightning when it was broken! ;
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 11 2014 19:07 GMT
#17290
On December 12 2014 04:05 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 03:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm probably gonna be running
coc discharge
so u prolly don't wanna party with me vndestiny

It's not until you play CoC until you find out which of your friends has shitty PCs. Wise choice my friend, wise choice!

(On a more serious node holy shit did I get yelled at for my CoC last league. So undeserved, I didn't even use Ball Lightning when it was broken! ;


My PC really isn't that bad. I wonder if they ever fixed animations not rendering off screen and causing huge spikes.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 11 2014 19:15 GMT
#17291
My PC isnt bad either, ur coc shit just broked PoE. Ill be running tornado shot puncture maybe, or some witch build in new HC league. Depends how I feel when I go to create character, I always like witch most but ranger builds always seem easier for me so dunno.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 20:32:31
December 11 2014 20:21 GMT
#17292
Personally I think windripper builds are likely to be among the best in the upcoming leagues but every time I theorize a build like that I just want to do it low-life due to how OP auras are with it and then I can't ever figure out how I'm going to get a shavs + windripper + 110 skill points without wanting to kill myself lol. Plus the nerf to mortal conviction is actually so big.

Life + windripper builds are still probably too good as well but I just don't wanna have my build suck till I can farm 7ex or whatever those bows are gonna go for in the new leagues. Plus I just did a crit bow char so while the ele version is definitely quite different iunno.

My personal CoC discharge plan is to do something much like mathil's "fakener" build but basically forsake the evasion/ondar's guile defensive paradigm in favour of pathing through the last power charge.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
December 12 2014 03:43 GMT
#17293
On December 12 2014 05:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Personally I think windripper builds are likely to be among the best in the upcoming leagues but every time I theorize a build like that I just want to do it low-life due to how OP auras are with it and then I can't ever figure out how I'm going to get a shavs + windripper + 110 skill points without wanting to kill myself lol. Plus the nerf to mortal conviction is actually so big.

Life + windripper builds are still probably too good as well but I just don't wanna have my build suck till I can farm 7ex or whatever those bows are gonna go for in the new leagues. Plus I just did a crit bow char so while the ele version is definitely quite different iunno.

My personal CoC discharge plan is to do something much like mathil's "fakener" build but basically forsake the evasion/ondar's guile defensive paradigm in favour of pathing through the last power charge.

I fucking know right. Last time I theocraft one of the most OP build ever. 100k+ dps TS. 84 max all res. 7k es. 300+ iir. I even have a Shav at hand. Unfortunately it need at least 114 skill points with a Scion and additional 200 ex to boot. Next league Windripper is prob gone back up to 25-30 ex or so I think, which is damn sad because I never owned but want to... zzzz.

Also where's our patch note @@
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 04:07:02
December 12 2014 04:05 GMT
#17294
they nerfed everything lol

nerfed lightning coil, nerfed CoC, nerfed cod, nerfed so much stuff

they even nerfed the block on the anvil lol
can someone explain why??

"The Bringer of Rain: Chance to block has been reduced from 15% to 6%."
lol
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
December 12 2014 04:08 GMT
#17295
Holy shit that Cyclone change.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 12 2014 04:16 GMT
#17296
Crest of Perandus: Chance to block has been reduced from 10% to 5%.

wtf lol

Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 12 2014 04:17 GMT
#17297
Holy shit Increased Crit Damage got RUINED
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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 04:25:29
December 12 2014 04:19 GMT
#17298
On December 12 2014 13:16 Probemicro wrote:
Crest of Perandus: Chance to block has been reduced from 10% to 5%.

wtf lol


It's a best in slot shield for LLD. Has higher block than any other shield, has higher life than is possible than any other shield, gives more lightning resist than any other shield, extremely cheap economically (1c, assuming you cant find one for free.) etc. I personally own 5 of them with different corruptions.

Also, I'm really glad economically for me that Ungil's got nerfed from 20% block to 12% block. I guess it's not bad to have 200+ of them now. LOL
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-12 04:21:26
December 12 2014 04:19 GMT
#17299
On December 12 2014 13:05 travis wrote:
they nerfed everything lol

nerfed lightning coil, nerfed CoC, nerfed cod, nerfed so much stuff

they even nerfed the block on the anvil lol
can someone explain why??

"The Bringer of Rain: Chance to block has been reduced from 15% to 6%."
lol


Block was too good so it got shit on everywhere.

On December 12 2014 13:19 Varanice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 13:16 Probemicro wrote:
Crest of Perandus: Chance to block has been reduced from 10% to 5%.

wtf lol


It's a best in slot shield for LLD.

Also, I'm really glad economically for me that Ungil's got nerfed from 20% block to 12% block. I guess it's not bad to have 200+ of them now. LOL


How do you have stash space for that?

GGG nerfing pretty much everything doesn't motivate me to play at all either. Is there a single buff in the entire list of patch notes
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 12 2014 04:22 GMT
#17300
They actually did just nerf everything
literally

it's actually so demotivating when everything u wanna play gets nerfed
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